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  1. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Go town!

    Thanks Void for running the game, I had fun even if I need to work on my early game.
  2. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    So might it be wiser to push a sleep or finish medivh?

    Think we just cut medivh and use actions to resolve the other 3
    I don't hate this way of thinking. Are we at L-1?
  3. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Did you get back to the ISO of Seph and MC?
    I did now. Feeling better about MasterChief. He's still got 5 town* 1 scum possible roles, but I like his late game posts.
    Seph...Diffcult to read, but I'm not feeling as positive towards him. Also at 4 town* 1 scum roles

    *accounting for my and Sauron's roles
  4. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Which character copped Twintanna?
    Badger was watching NXT again when he saw Twintania walking through camp. He called over Twintania and had him join in watching the matches, trying to discern where Twintania really had his interests.
    I think we established that Badger was a JOAT but I don't know if his powers are one-shot.
  5. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: sleep

    Just a placeholder vote. I want to get this done today.
  6. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I could have done with this being 24 hours earlier.

    2. Bacon - Town
    3. HulkHogan
    4. MasterChief
    5. Medivh
    6. Moana - Town
    7. Sauron - Solved as town. Unless someone wants to claim Tildey.
    8. Sephiroth
    9. SolidSnake - Strong Town vibe
    10. XavierWoods - Town
    2. Bacon - Town - because I know I am, and have been consistently helping town in night actions and avoiding bad lynches.
    3. HulkHogan - Town - while technically could still be Matthieu, that Listo action banning Hogan votes gives me pause
    4. MasterChief - Will need to check ISO
    5. Medivh - NAI - If it's who we think it is, I've never seen them play scum. Law of averages and all that...
    6. Moana - Town - multiple kill attempts by Lora, and acted truthfully with the Twintania info.
    7. Sauron - Solved as town. Unless someone wants to claim Tildey.
    8. Sephiroth Will need to check ISO
    9. SolidSnake - Strong Town vibe
    10. XavierWoods - Town. Shared the Hogan info from N6, and Moana thinks they are clean. Will need to recheck why.
  7. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    This looks like you pulled everyone elses lists and put it in a different form. No real why to any of it.
    Bullshit. If my list looks like others, maybe we've reached the same conclusions? You're better than this. Now I've got more time, I'll see if I can expand.
  8. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    OK, so what are you doing to help town? What are your thoughts on those alive? Who would you lynch and why?

    All your responses seam weak. Its not me man. Do something to prove it.
    I’ve been doing something at night, and seem to be quite accurate with my targets. Outside of kill attempts, think on why I trusted Subzero, Moana and you to be town.
    Unless you would rather have me modkilled. Just don’t be surprised when the game continues.
  9. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I can’t get past Matthieu not acting when Hogan and MasterChief were jailed. But if my hunch on Hogan is correct, MasterChief is the strongest candidate for a lynch. But I’d to revisit this this evening.
  10. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    It is not unheard of for scum to ship one of their own.

    Since you say you arent scum, where's your head at and why?
    I could have done with this being 24 hours earlier.

    2. Bacon - Town
    3. HulkHogan
    4. MasterChief
    5. Medivh
    6. Moana - Town
    7. Sauron - Solved as town. Unless someone wants to claim Tildey.
    8. Sephiroth
    9. SolidSnake - Strong Town vibe
    10. XavierWoods - Town
  11. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I mean I get it, I haven’t been visited at all, so instead of looking at the one scum role, how many town roles are available?
  12. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    A scum Bacon who led a lynch on scum JackSparrow? My, you have active imaginations. I’ve been busy at night, but I’m not Matthieu.
  13. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    What are you thinking?
    Not going to say right now, but think of possible interpretations of what happened and apply Occam's razor.
  14. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @XavierWoods are you thinking what I'm thinking with that Listo action?
  15. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Disagree actually. Their read list is very poor and extremely inconsistent, they could easily be seen as shielding Seph. They were around when the event hit causing EOD1. They wanted GC to be the person to receive 3 votes (which GC stole with almost the last vote of the day.) I also dont think Arceus has been targeted by a single scum action?
    Nor town action, the same as you and I. Nevertheless, it's a read I formed early, so could be worth revisiting.
  16. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Where's arc? I haven't sheeted this game?
    Arc's one of the people who could be any of the remaining characters. But their posts have been mostly seen as townie.
  17. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    So after some sleep, my PC decided to have an issue this morning, so just getting back.

    Seems we have essentially cleared Hogan of being red?
    Only because he was blocked/jailed on a night when all but one scum acted, who then reappeared the next night. So could possibly be Matthieu, but cleared of Lora and DivaSmurf.
  18. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Red acted against them, on the same night every other red (apart from Matthieu) acted. So they're as clear as HulkHogan, but with maybe more credit in the bank because scum acted against them. I still can't decide if the flavor indicates a block or not.
  19. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @VoidKitten can you update the threadmarks to include the most recent night phase? It's a pain to not it all in one place.
  20. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Bacon has been shown as a suspect by Moana's spread sheeting. He was a neutral/unknown read for me, which is not a good sign this late in the game. I can't say I'm opposed to lynching him.
    *Sigh* I can’t be held responsible for not being targeted at night.
  21. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sauron moves right up my trust list, unless anyone has evidence to the contrary.
  22. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well what more can I do to convince you?

    (And I really typed up all that on notepad first, which is why the fomatting got botched first time round. Scum me would have said 'fuck it', if Id bothered writing anything at all.

    What do you think of my conclusions r.e. Art and Sauron?
  23. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    my bad, forgot to colour in DivaSmurf N1.
    @Sauron This is a lot of trouble I'm going to becuase you're a bit bent out of shape other people are townier than you in my eyes.

    @Moana @HulkHogan Do you think a scum would dedicate this amount of work to solving a puzzle? Reconsider that vote.
  24. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    For me the obvious takeaway is that ArtTheClown was most likely 3puppies.

    And I think Sauron is claiming Tildey (if he joined prior to N2, Marack and Dreyski are possibilites)
  25. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    N1 (mass block)
    Listo
    Morrison
    Diva
    Sabi
    Lora

    N2
    Sabi
    MTR
    Pablo Diablo

    Robozerim
    Matthieu
    Marack
    Listo
    3pups
    Caito
    Badger
    Dreyski
    Lora
    (Sauron subbed in)

    N3
    Morrison
    Robozerim
    3puppies
    Dreyski
    Robozerim (targeted Sauron)
    Pablo Diablo (targeted Sauron)
    CWE
    Listo

    N4
    Pablo Diablo
    Morrison

    Marack
    Tildey
    DivaSmurf
    Badger
    Listo

    N5
    Robozerim
    CWE
    Lora
    Dreyski
    Morrison
    DivaSmurf
    Tildey
    Matthieu
  26. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    No it didn't. Imma try again.:mad:
  27. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    No, not their POSTS, the WRITE UPS. AJ wasn’t mentioned in them as ACTiVELY doing anything and neither was I the night after I made a single post at EoD. I didn’t submit an anything because I hadn’t read anything yet. Read the writeups, someone is absent from the write ups because AJ eirher never submitted anything or they were rb’d.
    Hopefullt my formatting holds up - the characters (not posters) acting each night:

    N1 (mass block) N3 N5
    Listo Morrison Robozerim
    Morrison Robozerim CWE
    Diva 3puppies Lora
    Sabi Dreyski Dreyski
    Lora Robozerim (targeted Sauron) Morrison
    Pablo Diablo (targeted Sauron) Diva
    CWE Tildey
    Listo Matthieu

    N2 N4
    Sabi Pablo Diablo
    MTR
    Morrison
    Pablo Diablo
    Marack
    Robozerim Lora
    Matthieu Tildey
    Marack DivaSmurf
    Listo Badger
    3puppies Listo
    Caito
    Badger
    Dreyski
    Lora
    (Sauron subbed in)
  28. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I think it's some or all of these ones
    I have a theory that scum has figured out who I am and won’t kill me because they’re counting on misliming me instead. Look at tye write ups with AJ never being mentioned as actually doing anything and the night of the first day I subbed in. Not rocket science.

    Town should also be able to figure it out.

    If I have to quote all the writeups in a row, until everyone figures it out, I will. Apparently I will have to since no one else is bothering.

    I did yesterday and I did try to hint but read the write ups and see who’s missing on the nights AJ was posting and the first night I subbed in.

    I’m not allowed, I asked VK yesterday.

    No, not their POSTS, the WRITE UPS. AJ wasn’t mentioned in them as ACTiVELY doing anything and neither was I the night after I made a single post at EoD. I didn’t submit an anything because I hadn’t read anything yet. Read the writeups, someone is absent from the write ups because AJ eirher never submitted anything or they were rb’d.

    I’m not following, sorry but anyone who does what I am suggesting has to be able to figure it out. There is one active tole who didn’t do anything active when AJ had my slot or the night after the day I subbed in.

    I think Sauron is claiming to be CWE. Someone tell me they are lying. And if you are afraid to, TARGET THEM.

    Am I allowed to say No to that? Then NO.
  29. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Mechanically this is incorrect.
    Well I've double checked, and none of our screen names appear in the writeups that I can see. SolidSnake can't be matthieu though, so he only has two scum outs
  30. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well mechanically you have the same number of scum outs (3) as many of the other players, namely: Arceus, myself, JackSparrow, MasterChief, you and Sepiroth (possibly Solidsnake, will need to re-read)
    Hogan and Mediveh (read-dependent) have one possible role now that Matthieu is not ArtTheClown, Moana is basically clean, and I just realised I left Xavier off my spreadsheet 🤦‍♂️
    So then you have to go onto reads, voting patterns, which I did last night/beginning of today. Check my ISO, it won't take long :p
  31. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I was previously liking bacon but now I don’t know.
    Well mechanically you have the same number of scum outs (3) as many of the other players, namely: Arceus, myself, JackSparrow, MasterChief, you and Sepiroth (possibly Solidsnake, will need to re-read)
    Hogan and Mediveh (read-dependent) have one possible role now that Matthieu is not ArtTheClown, Moana is basically clean, and I just realised I left Xavier off my spreadsheet 🤦‍♂️
  32. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also reminder that Scum have self targeted.
    Your words not mine
  33. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    On a vote that wasn't going to change the EOD result
  34. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also reminder that Scum have self targeted.
    Grumpycat still had immunity at that point so silence didn't hinder him.
  35. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Jacks vote was stolen, he tried to vote Hulk
    Probably for the best given his voting record this game. On three mislynches (and trying to make it four) and voted to give immunity to grumpycat.
  36. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    ebwop to Sauron
  37. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Just less of a town read than those in blue because of evidence.
  38. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Guys RL sucks. Can we focus on the game in here?
    1686941619885.png Just defending my position, but point taken.
  39. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    3 scum. Living players:

    1. Arceus
    2. Bacon

    3. HulkHogan
    4. JackSparrow
    5. MasterChief
    6. Medivh
    7. Moana

    8. Sauron
    9. Sephiroth
    10. SolidSnake
    11. XavierWoods


    I need to take another look at the night actions. But I believe scum is in that group of 5 (Hulk and Sauron to a lesser degree), and if I'm wrong, I'll tip the cap to whoever hoodwinked me.

    Bur for now,
    Vote: JackSparrow
  40. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    ebwop to Hulk
  41. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Do you need it spelling out?
  42. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Badger’s a tracker not a cop.
    Do you think N4 was flavour (flavor)? Because to me it didn't read like a tracker :dunno:
  43. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Ive been working the same and i still find the time
    You have no idea.
  44. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Loving the amount of salt being thrown around by scum against someone who works 9-5 every day. Bring it on, Bacon is all about the salt.
  45. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Don't call me lazy, I've been working. Other time zones are a thing, you know, and also, I've been instrumental in confirming town and catching scum this game. Get rid of me, and history will vindicate me.
  46. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Moana, Hogan and Mr. UUDD just had a conversation giving what SHOULD be plenty of hints as to Rikishi's true identity.
    I came to the same conclusion independently early on. Like I'm fairly sure I know who you and Hulkster are.
  47. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I wanted to keep this for the dayphase. Players who were alive nights 2-4:

    3 misyeets: SolidSnake, JackSparrow, Subzero,

    2 misyeets: Sepiroth, TwinTania, XavierWoods, Rikishi, Alysrazor(2/3)

    1 misyeet: GrumpyCat, Bacon, Moana, Arceus, Medivh

    0 misyeets: Princess Peach

    FOS JackSparrow
  48. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I think it makes it clear that Medivh is not DivaSmurf. I'm inclined to look at what other actions has DivaSmurf done. I did see this one earlier
    Well the more recent one is (deliberately) imprecise but that one there indicates a investigative role so sounds like a JOAT.
  49. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    You're misreading or misunderstanding. Im casting votes, Im just unvoting so that other people had time to before day ended.
    I'm forgetting the post numbers which is why. I still think unvoting rather than shifting to another target or voting sleep is a risky strategy, although if void includes the unvote post tag in the results, maybe he allows it?
  50. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Final Day 5 Vote Count:

    Twintania - 8 (Moana, XavierWoods, JackSparrow, HulkHogan, GrumpyCat, Bacon, Arceus, SolidSnake)
    Sleep - 1 (Rikishi )

    Not Voting: Medivh, Sauron, Sephiroth, Twintania, MasterChief

    Finally a yeet based on solid info. Scum would have known their goose was cooked as soon as the writeup came out and either jumped on the train to look credible, or didn't vote to draw things out. Sauron and MasterChief both missed their third vote in a row (I missed Sauron previously) and Medivh their second in three. By luck or chance, none have been touched by Listo yet.
  51. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Final Day 4 Vote Count:

    PrincessPeach - 9 (Sephiroth, HulkHogan, SolidSnake, Rikishi, JackSparrow, SubZero, Twintania, Moana, Medivh)
    Alysrazor - 5 (Arceus, XavierWoods, Bacon, GrumpyCat, PrincessPeach)

    Not Voting: Alysrazor, Sauron, MasterChief

    Misyeet 3 - Again, Peach got got because she was being unhelpful, and I said as much, though I don't think any mafia would play that way so as to draw attention to themselves. Only 1 known scum on the train, I feel there must be more and we have cleared/flipped several already. MasterChief fails to vote for second time.
  52. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Final Day 3 Vote Count:

    Hades - 10 (SolidSnake, HulkHogan, GrumpyCat, ArtTheClown, Twintania, Sora, JackSparrow, Alysrazor, XavierWoods, SubZero)
    PrincessPeach - 4 (Rikishi, Sephiroth, Bacon, Arceus)
    HulkHogan - 2 (Moana, PrincessPeach)

    Not Voting: Hades, Sauron, MasterChief, Medivh

    Misyeet 2 - Seemed to be a policy yeet rather than particular scumminess on Hades's part. First time Alys, TT and Art have voted together, notice the last two in the middle of the train. First time MasterChief hasn't voted.
  53. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Final Day 2 Vote Count:

    Croissant - 12 (Sephiroth, Rikishi, Pikachu, SolidSnake, Bacon, MasterChief, Alysrazor, Subzero, Arceus, JackSparrow, ArtTheClown, XavierWoods)
    PrincessPeach - 5 (Twintania, Medivh, Croissant, PrincessPeach, GrumpyCat)
    Applejack - 2 (HulkHogan, Moana)
    ArtTheClown - 1 (Hades)
    JackSparrow - 1 (Sora)

    Not Voting: Applejack, Gibbs

    Misyeet 1 - Again you see the known scum spreading out, but given 12 votes on Croissant, you would expect to see more scum on this train. I'm looking at the back end, not necessarily the hammer, but those who brought it that way.
  54. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Votes so far:
    Final Day 1 Vote Count:

    GrumpyCat - 3 (JackSparrow, Croissant, GrumpyCat)
    HulkHogan - 2 (Twintainia, Pikachu)
    Alysrazor - 2 (Medivh, SubZero)
    SubZero - 2 (Sora, ArtTheClown)
    Sora - 2 (MasterChief, PrincessPeach)
    Croissant - 2 (Bacon, Alysrazor)
    Applejack - 2 (Applejack, Kumquat)
    Moana - 2 (Moana, Hades)
    Hades - 1 (HulkHogan)
    XavierWoods - 1 (Rikishi)
    SolidSnake - 1 (SolidSnake)

    Not Voting: Gibbs, Sephiroth, XavierWoods, Arceus

    This was for immunity, so not very indicative of anything, our confirmed and suspected scum are spread around this. Given my earlier comments on 1-vote people, I feel slightly better about XavierWoods than erlier though.
  55. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Trying to separate the flavor from the game events.

    Since Mazer, the Supremacy leader, and Firebird the backup, are both now gone, the Castle named after Mazer is no longer their hangout. The Mission Adjusted may have been something that gave them not just a new evil lair (involving sonar?), but I also wonder if any of the roles/powers that Mazer and Firebird had are now transferred to someone else among Morrison, Lora, and DivaSmurf. That's assuming I am right about ArtTheTreeScum.

    It wouldn't be as simple as @MasterChief being the master that the talking magical evil lighted Castle was referring to here - would it?
    I'd need to go back and check - I'm writing this straight after reading your comment - but Firebert was the backup and we saw them using powers similar to what Sabi/Gibbs/Jarrod had, because he died first. If the backup then dies their team should lose that power (emphasis added becuase each game runner is different). The only power that stays with scum is their factional kill.
  56. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    If SolidSnake or Rikishi want to change their votes, now would be a good time.
  57. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I don't think I've ever drawn a mafia game courtesy of the end of the world.
  58. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    EBWOP That's assuming Art is Matthieu
  59. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Here's where I stand:
    1. Arceus - Town
    2. Bacon - Town, natch
    3. GrumpyCat - Town lean
    4. HulkHogan - Town
    5. JackSparrow - Scum lean
    6. MasterChief - Scum lean
    7. Medivh - Town lean
    8. Moana - Town
    9. Rikishi - Town lean
    10. Sauron - Town lean
    11. Sephiroth - Neutral
    12. SolidSnake - Town lean
    13. Twintania - Scum
    14. XavierWoods - Scum lean

    Vote: Twintania
  60. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Liking the Twintania vote, will probably jump on this evening my time.

    Are we softclearing Medivh and HulkHogan now? From skimming the night actions, reads like blocked/jailed respectively.
  61. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    All the same, void has missed my vote twice, so to repeat:
    Vote: Alysrazor

    I’m at work ATM so won’t be fully on until this evening.
  62. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Day 4 Vote Count:

    PrincessPeach - 4 (Sephiroth #1650, HulkHogan #1653, SolidSnake #1674, Rikishi #1689)
    Medivh - 2 (GrumpyCat #1713, XavierWoods #1770]
    Alysrazor - 2 (SubZero #1771, Arceus #1829)
    Bacon - 1 (Moana #1779)

    Not Voting: Alysrazor, Bacon, JackSparrow, MasterChief, Medivh, PrincessPeach, Sauron, Twintania

    It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end at 8:00pm ET on June 12th or when majority is reached. With 17 players alive, majority is 9 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority will come into play.

    Current Modified Majority: 5
    1782
  63. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Any thoughts on anyone else outside of Peach, Alys, and Jack? Doesn't need to be a big thorough solve, I just wanna know where your head is at.
    MasterChief is conspicuous by his absence, although it is Sunday and people got stuff going on in real life. I'm not sus of Jack, I was just a bit salty he called me out for being lazy. But after a shower and with a beer, the world is a little better. We just need more actions to go through, and if we coul direct actions towards people not yet featured in write-ups, we might have a few more possibilities.

    But it's always the way - more active = towny, less active = scummy. I'm guilty of it myself, including in this game.
  64. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    bbq-baconballs-3587693385.jpeg

    My balls are just fine & my opinion on Peach hasn't changed. Already said my vote was part placeholder in case the day ends unexpectedly again.
  65. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: Alysrazor

    Partly placeholder, partly FOS.
  66. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Evening all, sorry for not being around since my bijou postette at day start, I've been working in the garden all afternoon (and it's been hot here) and I'm not really in the mood for some hardcore deduction.

    If Jack thinks I'm coasting that's fine, I mean we've only had three night phases, and scum mass blocked n1 and hid their actions/used proxies on N3 so there's not much in the way of dees, especially if investigative characters aren't even getting their own information back.
    But yes, maybe I should shitpost more about rum to artificially inflate my post count, and then snipe at people who posted less than me.
    Jack, Moana's made the first vote, where are your balls?
  67. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Moana seems to be a town lock based on the Rock Paper Scissors and the subsequent kill attempt on Morrison (for losing the game/role modifier/flavour)
  68. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    An accused liar vs somone unwilling to defend themselves. If they're both town we're fucked.
    For the sake of competing trains:
    Vote: PrincessPeach
  69. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Not sure its worth putting a vote on a slot that still has 0 posts and likely a mark that listo can handle. If they come into the thread and we want to work on resolving that slot, it would be more understandable.
    Well I was hoping a little pressure and visibility would draw them out but apparently not. I'll have to read back the last page or so and revote as appropriate.
  70. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Haven't got a palantir to hand but would like to hear them speak up:

    Vote: Sauron
  71. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Being a leading poster doesnt always make you town tho scum do it for control so keep that in mind
    Fair. I do know a couple of posters who like to lead the conversation as both town and scum so it's NAI on that point.
    Arceus feels clean to me, Alysrazor more neutral.
  72. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Peach is being super unhelpful but our leading posters think she's town, I could see a case for jester but don't know if vk uses them
    Medivh hasn't given me much to go on, but I can't see anything scummy, if they are the person I think they are. Just rather typical for them.

    What about Alysrazor and Arceus? These two have completely flown under my radar.
  73. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Are you unsmoked or smoked brother?
    Smoking is bad for you...but great for me!

    Why did it take so long for you to apologize not for being a racist, but instead your apology was for getting caught on tape saying "I am a racist!"

    Dark times, bruddah.

    But I'd like to know - What are your thoughts on the PeachPrincess, and on Medivh.

    Same question to you, Bacon
    I'm not racist, I'm just haram.
    Oh, the other question? I'll need to check ISOs for today.
  74. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Very well may be.

    Hades has not posted anything helpful. But I remain concerned about them being left with one vote on Day 1. I would like to hear from them today.

    Applejack got replaced by Sauron, so I'd kind of like to hear something before voting there.

    Medivh also has not posted much, and none of it has been helpful. If the Peach can give us anything to support herself, I don't mind looking here.

    Alysrazor 20 - the little that was posted felt kind of townish to me, but I would like to see more.

    Hogan was away, but is posting now. I shall have to ponder whether I need to send a letter.

    Bacon is also not giving us much.
    Bacon has to sleep and work. What do you want to know?
  75. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    You were a helluva rival brother! You made me say my prayers and eat my vitamins!
    Did he make you humble though?
    So Sora was watched and tracked but two other people got their results?
  76. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    ^^^This. I was willing to overlook it early D1 when people were just throwing votes but it irked me that they ignored all requests to give a reason for their vote. And the fact that trend is continuing to D2 is even more unhelpful.
    When your sole reason for voting for an inactive is sheeping another poster, it strikes me as a touch hypocritcial.
  77. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I mean, Peach's ISO is pretty terrible and I stand by my comments from earlier.
    But Croissant's is not much better, and that seems to be the way the wind is blowing.

    Vote: Croissant
  78. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    No self-interest there…
  79. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    you just like s people. now you've tipped your hand.
    Uh oh, you got me? :shifty:
  80. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Townleans: Subzero, ArtTheClown, Sepiroth, SolidSnake

    Noncommital: Too many to mention

    Scumleans: PrincessPeach, Medivh

    And I don't hate the people voting PrincessPeach either.

    Vote: PrincessPeach
  81. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well ok then.
    Anyone inactive? Could be Scum hiding.
    Like others have said, let Void sort out the inactives, scum are less likely to be inactive in any case as the rest of their team will be pushing them.
    If a player is inactive but not getting modkilled, then I’d start to worry.
  82. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Tbh thats just sumthin scum may say so take that with your salt or in my case rum
    I'm naturally salted.
  83. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Final Day 1 Vote Count:

    GrumpyCat - 3 (JackSparrow #45, Croissant #200, GrumpyCat #437)

    HulkHogan - 2 (Twintainia #53, Pikachu #166)
    Alysrazor - 2 (Medivh #83, SubZero #422)
    SubZero - 2 (Sora #105, ArtTheClown #331)
    Sora - 2 (MasterChief #137, PrincessPeach #297)
    Croissant - 2 (Bacon #210, Alysrazor #430)
    Applejack - 2 (Applejack #212, Kumquat #413)
    Moana - 2 (Moana #261, Hades #417)
    Hades - 1 (HulkHogan #8)
    XavierWoods - 1 (Rikishi #191)
    SolidSnake - 1 (SolidSnake #389)

    Not Voting: Gibbs, Sephiroth, XavierWoods, Arceus #403
    I'm reasonably confident the ones on 1 vote are town. Red team wouldn't put themselves in unnecessary danger and all it would have taken would be SolidSnake unvoting or moving, or Hades/XavierWoods self voting. I also believe that the reds all knew it was happening so would have been alert to quick changes (led by SubZero and ArttheClown, IIRC). So, on that flimsy reasoning:

    Vote: Moana
  84. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh so that was actually a modified SK. Strange, writeup says she freed herself and went to look for someone, but its not like someone died.
    Could have just been flavour, could have targetted a hider, could have been a roleblock equivalent of a BPV. Regardless, looking at the role as written, it would be in her interests to kill town first two nights so I think we may have dodged a bullet there.
  85. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    OK this sentence is confusing but, is foxxi and nightingale different screen names for the same person
    Yeah, like Void used to be cereal. I'm just wondering if it was fixed for Nightingale the player to be assigned Foxxi the character. I'm also wondering what exactly a mentoring clockmaker is (or even either part of that phrase)
  86. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    At least we know why SolidSnake didn't flip now.

    And yep, mass roleblock and Subzero gets what looks like rolecopped. Don't know what Sabi was doing though. Dare say we'll find out N2.
  87. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Maybe someone more perceptive can make something of that. The only thing I got is that Listo might be one of the non-voters.
  88. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    —---------------

    Final Day 1 Vote Count:

    GrumpyCat - 3 (JackSparrow #45, Croissant #200, GrumpyCat #437)

    HulkHogan - 2 (Twintainia #53, Pikachu #166)
    Alysrazor - 2 (Medivh #83, SubZero #422)
    SubZero - 2 (Sora #105, ArtTheClown #331)
    Sora - 2 (MasterChief #137, PrincessPeach #297)
    Croissant - 2 (Bacon #210, Alysrazor #430)
    Applejack - 2 (Applejack #212, Kumquat #413)
    Moana - 2 (Moana #261, Hades #417)
    Hades - 1 (HulkHogan #8)
    XavierWoods - 1 (Rikishi #191)
    SolidSnake - 1 (SolidSnake #389)

    Not Voting: Gibbs, Sephiroth, XavierWoods, Arceus #403


    The player at the top of the vote list is: GrumpyCat

    The player at the bottom of the vote list is: SolidSnake
  89. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Day 1 Vote Count:

    Sora - 3 (MasterChief #137, Arceus #152, PrincessPeach #297)
    GrumpyCat - 2 (JackSparrow #45, Croissant #200)
    HulkHogan - 2 (Twintainia #53, Pikachu #166)
    SubZero - 2 (Sora #105, ArtTheClown #331)
    SolidSnake - 2 (Kumquat #282, SubZero #376)
    Hades - 1 (HulkHogan #8)
    Alysrazor - 1 (Medivh #83)
    XavierWoods - 1 (Rikishi #191)
    Croissant - 1 (Bacon #210)
    Applejack - 1 (Applejack #212)
    Moana - 1 (Moana #261)

    Not Voting: Alysrazor, Gibbs, Hades, Sephiroth, SolidSnake, XavierWoods, GrumpyCat #274

    This was the state of play before the event - we know Grumpycat and SolidSnake ended up top/bottom
  90. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Might be worth looking at the votes when the day got shortened and work out why scum triggered it then.
  91. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    you're john halo. the master chief. sierra 117. the gigachad billy badass. you shoot the aliens and save the day all while saying about 10 words total the entire game, if even.
    So a more talkative Gordon Freeman, then?
  92. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    EBWOP - In reply to Rikishi
  93. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    By saying you were doing it for The Rock?
  94. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    FOS:
    Medivh and Croisssant for not getting the joke
    Croissant for being part of a continental breakfast

    Vote: croissant
  95. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Investigative roles not getting their own results. I am guessing/hoping that the writeup may show "Character X sent the results to player Y, because X thought Y analytical enough to understand, and trustworthy enough to share?"
    I'm more expecting "character Y received a message" containing the results of character X's investigation. But I guess we shall see.
  96. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    My favourite Moana song?

    "Some day my prince will come"
  97. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    As well as talking in the third person.
  98. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Or we could try to actually be organized and force the vote onto 2 people

    Say, 4 people to get the most votes by the end of 24 hours become the only people being eligible to be voted for the remainder of the day?

    Can change the number of peopl

    I imagine most of us here are full grown adults and this little exercise in self-governance won't prove too challenging.
    Yeah, like the last time we tried this?
  99. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    If we all self vote are we all tied for most votes and least votes 🤔
    Vote: Kumquat
    But if Void is mod there'll be some bastardry involved.
  100. Bacon

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hai everyone!

    Vote: Subzero
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