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  1. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Damn nice Shooting Xan
  2. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    You need to stop believing that, its bad for town to continue this narrative.
    If they wanted to stop playing, they can in fact stop. They havent.
  3. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Get it over with.
    There's a simple way for you to do this... If you dont want to play, you can completely stop posting. Not do this half-hearted try to get 5 posts and a vote in.
  4. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Bacon- 9 town roles
    Hogan- 5 town roles
    Masterchief- 5 town roles
    Medivh-8 town roles
    Bringing this list back to the forefront. This is who we need to vet. Chopping Medivh will cut this list by 1.
  5. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Day 7 Vote Count:

    Medivh - 4 (XavierWoods #2685, Medivh #2687, MasterChief #2747, Sauron #2791)
    Sleep - 4 (HulkHogan #2676, Bacon #2758, SolidSnake #2845, Moana #2862)

    Not Voting: Sephiroth

    It is now Day 7. Day 7 will end at 8:00pm ET on June 20th or when majority is reached. With 9 players alive, majority is 5 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority will come into play.

    Current Modified Majority: 5
    2862 is the wrong post for moana's sleep... its 2853
  6. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Off the top of my head you were the one that stuck out, IIRC he had Medivh in there which frankly I can kinda agree with. Theyre not a player its easy to form a decision around.

    Also Ive got a little secret notebook that tells me you werent super active at all.
    If we look at post count and you say Seph hasnt been super active, then neither have you.
  7. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Art? Listo shot Art then stumped them.
    I get that you are unlikely to be scum, but please stop with half ideas.

    Listo made Art a stump. Didnt shoot, then stump as 2 actions. 1 action. Made him a stump.
  8. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I’m okay with either but we can’t cop a slot if they holster. We have watcher, tracker and jailkeep. if Medivh is Mathieu and they don’t submit anything and they don’t do anything different, we’d have just wasted a day, so I’m okay with sleep if Listo shoot there. I think they’re the only slot that’s impossible to resolve by either dayplay or night actions.

    But the fact that their play is so antitown, they won’t even check if they performed any NAs, we have 8 town + 1 scum left, and I don’t think we lose voting out a slot that’s doing nothing. I think since we can’t read Listo’s mind, it’s probably safer to just vote Medivh out and have Listo holster. I think Mathieu is in my PoE.

    Moana, Xavier, SolidSnake and me are clear. I think it very unlikely to be Bacon or Hulk.
    A cop doesnt care if the other person acts or not. One of the roles we had definitely looked like a cop and im not seeing that person dead. Cop will show Riff-raff or not riff-raff.... or innocent/guilty.
  9. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Still think we take the game into our hands. Lets chop Medivh. If the game ends, great. If not, we have 3 people to check with actions tonight instead of 4. Makes it a little safer for people that can act.
  10. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    If we vote, Listo holsters and do does Mathieu, what happens then? How can we possibly resolve that slot when they aren’t doing anything?

    We have no way of resolving Medivh if they’re Mathieu and they do nothing. If no kill happens, they can’t be copped and a jk also tells us nothing.
    We have roles left that can resolve people at night.

    If we have a cop, and matt doesnt act, but the cop checks the person, we have a cop check.
  11. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I see merits in both Sleep and Chopping Medivh. Pros outweigh the cons if we remove in the day phase, IMO
  12. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @Moana The other thing we have to take into consideration is if listo will shoot medivh or not. Has listo had a bad shot? Do they have restrictions or limits on the number of shots?

    So if we dont remove Medivh and listo doesnt shoot, we will need to resolve it anyway. Removing a player tightens who is available to cop, jail, watch, block, etc.
  13. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    That's what I was wondering and wanting opinions on. The only way town loses that I see is if we get too cock. Best way to get cocky is wrongly lynching people. Until they "quit", nothing had set off a scum bell for me.

    That's why I asked them if it was just frustrated town, or frustrated scum. Thier response since makes me feel frustrated scum with the just end it vibe. Might just see the writing on the wall?

    I'm perfectly fine not killing today (thank you Listo (bastard :cheers: )) and letting to cop start checking our unknowns until we find the last one.
    I can see not lynching and seeing if listo will pull the trigger.
  14. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    ???

    Because they were fine voting anyone of me, Bacon, Hulk. I think that points away from it being them.
    Votes alone dont remove someone from scum. Scum can and often vote for a teammate. As seen in this game.
  15. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Bacon- 9 town roles
    Hogan- 5 town roles
    Masterchief- 5 town roles
    Medivh-8 town roles
    So might it be wiser to push a sleep or finish medivh?

    Think we just cut medivh and use actions to resolve the other 3
  16. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    There’s 5 that can be Matheiu but Jack’s willing to vote 2 of them out, points away from it being them. That’s Hulk and Bacon. Then there’s Sephiroth, Masterchief and of course Medivh.

    I think we’ve got nothing to lose at this point trying to resolve that slot. Medivh, that is.

    Vote: Medivh
    Jack is dead... why bring them up
  17. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    2. Bacon - Town - because I know I am, and have been consistently helping town in night actions and avoiding bad lynches.
    3. HulkHogan - Town - while technically could still be Matthieu, that Listo action banning Hogan votes gives me pause
    4. MasterChief - Will need to check ISO
    5. Medivh - NAI - If it's who we think it is, I've never seen them play scum. Law of averages and all that...
    6. Moana - Town - multiple kill attempts by Lora, and acted truthfully with the Twintania info.
    7. Sauron - Solved as town. Unless someone wants to claim Tildey.
    8. Sephiroth Will need to check ISO
    9. SolidSnake - Strong Town vibe
    10. XavierWoods - Town. Shared the Hogan info from N6, and Moana thinks they are clean. Will need to recheck why.

    2. Easy to avoid bad lynches if scum. Its been done before. So saying you avoided bad lynches doesnt make you town. It makes you sus for having TMI.
    10. I was jailed the night all living scum acted.

    Did you get back to the ISO of Seph and MC?
  18. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    For those that have been sheeting, who has the most town roles available to them, while still having the possibility of being matt? Or better yet, who are the 3 most likely to be that scum slot?
  19. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Yeah it’s definitely not prohibited. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever participated in a game (as far as I can recall anyway) where self-voting was prohibited or any other weird consequences for doing so.
    there was a somewhat recent game that had hidden rules, and one was no self voting. But the punishment, iirc, was a mute for some time. 1st offenses might have been hours, later for remainder of the phase
  20. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Night seemed to go full duration. I would assume scum failed to put in their action. Did night go full duration the last time Matt didnt act?
  21. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well, I’m assuming that since quite a few people know who Medivh is, they ought to know about this rule but why not a direct mod action on the slot in that case?
    If it were a rule, we would have seen something before last night. This wasnt the 1st time someone voted themselves this game.
  22. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Like you're all so fucking late to the party you missed me calling out this shit fucking days ago. Read the fucking game and not just spreadsheets
    Come on... Most the game knows who medivh is and their play is NAI.
  23. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: Medivh

    Placeholder vote. Been up all night and want to get a few hours sleep. Im sure itll turn into more then I intend. So protecting myself in case day ends early.
  24. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    What do people make of Mathieu not performing any na last night?
    Could have limited charges of abilities. Might have to take a day between abilities being used. Could have holstered to make it harder for people to catch them in the act. Could have given up and not put in actions.
  25. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    What do you think about EoD 6 event?
    NAI. Anything done by or to that slot really hasnt helped town.

    The ghost of Morrison grinned as it was a sweet sweet sound to hear the word, brother. A light fired from the afterlife hitting Medivh square in the chest, raising him into the air, and then depositing him roughly on the ground. Medivh stood shakily, clearly weakened.
    Seems like it could be a lack of vote similar to SS. Could be making them vanilla. Either way, without effort coming from the slot, it doesnt assist us.
  26. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I could have done with this being 24 hours earlier.

    2. Bacon - Town
    3. HulkHogan
    4. MasterChief
    5. Medivh
    6. Moana - Town
    7. Sauron - Solved as town. Unless someone wants to claim Tildey.
    8. Sephiroth
    9. SolidSnake - Strong Town vibe
    10. XavierWoods - Town
    This looks like you pulled everyone elses lists and put it in a different form. No real why to any of it.
  27. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    The only other thought is Sauron but they seem to have trouble using some of the site’s functions (if they did then there team-mates would’ve probably helped them) and the way they were posting doesn’t seem like being coached but I guess we shouldn’t rule it out totally.
    The site isnt that hard to deal with. Navigation is pretty damn simple. Multi-quote was the only thing that took me more then a glance to figure out. So the site is hard, is a weak excuse, like bacons attempts so far today.
  28. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I mean I get it, I haven’t been visited at all, so instead of looking at the one scum role, how many town roles are available?
    OK, so what are you doing to help town? What are your thoughts on those alive? Who would you lynch and why?

    All your responses seam weak. Its not me man. Do something to prove it.
  29. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    A scum Bacon who led a lynch on scum JackSparrow? My, you have active imaginations. I’ve been busy at night, but I’m not Matthieu.
    It is not unheard of for scum to ship one of their own.

    Since you say you arent scum, where's your head at and why?
  30. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I just want an answer from @Medivh

    They were tired of YOU PEOPLE. I haven't bothered them all game.

    If they are town, I'll move right along. If they are scum and are REALLY done with it...we can accommodate that as well.
    Ive asked them questions to try to get them engaged.

    We still havent heard from about half the people today, so would rather people get the chance to get their posts on and not be a listo target.
  31. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    That's why I asked them. A simple question.

    Listo already took my lynch target today. Medvih was his shot so I want to steal it from him...oending if it was true as the scum side of the question.

    If they are town, a simple town response will make my vote a lot easier.
    The downside is their play is completely NAI.

    Would be nice is the stump came in with anything, or the others of lower activity stepped up and gave their opinions.
  32. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    So unless I've messed up: Bacon or Medvih?

    Which one do you want to toss first? And why?
    IMO, Medivh seems to have given up. If they dont post and vote, listo can take care of.
  33. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Not sure the relevancy here when both scum that have died since then arent in these POEs lol
    Agreed that since then, both scum down havent been in our PoE, doesnt mean the final one isnt in that list.
  34. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Funny you say that...since I have the same for you.
    Its not something I want to explore unless we get to final 4-5
  35. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    There's 2 mafia left, a jail keeper, a watcher/cop, and a doctor left with 10 players left alive. Two TPR's to block kills, plus a couple variations of investigation out there, we effectively can't lose this game unless we do so on purpose.

    Prime Lynch targets
    Masterchief was jailed, a kill attempt still went out. Clearly not Lora, but the other mafian was missing. He could be that one.
    HulkHogan if I recall was also jailed on a night that the second mafian was missing. Similar enough situation, though Moana said her spreadsheet very likely clears him.
    Bacon wasn't touched last night, and remains a candidate for either, I think.

    Secondary targets:
    Medivh
    Sephiroth
    HulkHogan

    The Unlikely target
    SolidSnake

    The No Ways
    Moana
    XavierWoods


    Oh, I see what I did. I'm dumb, I put HulkHogan twice.
    Would Arceus intentionally put their last teammate in the prime lynch? Would they intentionally forget to put their last teammate in? Would scum steal a vote from their teammate the day before?

    Think we have MC, Seph, Bacon, and to a lesser extent HH to look at.

    Unless my super paranoid tinfoil of Moana being final scum... But i doubt that right now.
  36. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Bringing my convo with Rikishi back up before he was NKed.

    My PoE to him was Sauron, Hulk, Masterchief
    His PoE to me was Sauron, Sephiroth, Masterchief
  37. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Scum who gave up arguing in a disaster of a game? Or frustrated town?
    completely NAI for the poster. If they dont show up, prime listo target. Listo is carrying the town this game. Well done bud.
  38. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Nobody visited Hulk last night. Thats for passing on the info. Think its useful right now to share everything we get and can.

    Wish I was able to determine anything from what I did, but no dice.
  39. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @XavierWoods are you thinking what I'm thinking with that Listo action?
    I have a couple of theories
  40. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Listo had been listening intently and looking over everything. He decided that he didn't appreciate everyone coming after the Hulkster and slammed his fist down, unequivocally stating that HulkHogan is off the table today. Listo then sat back and continued to listen.

    HulkHogan cannot be voted on today and all votes upon him have been reset.

    ------------------
    Day 6 Vote Count:

    JackSparrow - 5 (Bacon #2427, Moana #2527, HulkHogan #2547, Sauron #2559, Sephiroth #2596)
    Medivh - 1 (Medivh #2537)
    Bacon - 1 (JackSparrow #2564)
    Arceus - 1 (MasterChief #2601)

    Not Voting: Arceus, SolidSnake, XavierWoods #2603

    It is now Day 6. Day 6 will end at 8:00pm ET on June 17th or when majority is reached. With 11 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority will come into play.

    Current Modified Majority: 5
    An interesting option for Listo... with Hulk sitting at 1 vote.

    SS doesnt have a vote today. Was taken from him.
    Arceus has been around but hasnt voted.

    If we are ok ending early, i can hammer.
  41. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Jack is L-1 with Seph's vote... Mod Maj was 4, could be 5 now. No other votes changes since last vote count
  42. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: Medivh
    I'm done. Fuck this game.
    People arent voting you... there is literally no pressure on you. People are trying to get you engaged in the game instead of sitting back and making the minimal contributions to be "active." You have to have some opinions on the people of the game. Or are you not paying ANY attention to it and just trying to survive by doing the 5 posts and a vote minimum?
  43. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Or am I missing something?
  44. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    So after some sleep, my PC decided to have an issue this morning, so just getting back.

    Seems we have essentially cleared Hogan of being red?
  45. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Seriously, if you want to see if I'm Scum, Cop me instead of doing this shit.
    Not worth a cop check.

    What are your opinions on people? You have to have some feeling, good or bad, on the people in thread.
  46. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I don't know?
    Can you give your opinions on the living players? Quick thoughts on each one.
  47. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    my bad, forgot to colour in DivaSmurf N1.
    @Sauron This is a lot of trouble I'm going to becuase you're a bit bent out of shape other people are townier than you in my eyes.

    @Moana @HulkHogan Do you think a scum would dedicate this amount of work to solving a puzzle? Reconsider that vote.
    If put in a tight spot, scum can and often will put in a lot of work/effort to get off the blocks. I know Ive done it in the past.
  48. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Some food for thought for people with investigative roles. If you've shared information with someone and they havent come forward with it, might be a way to out scum. Obviously make sure you looked at the NA writeups to see if you were blocked, redirected, jailed or any of those actions were against the person you sent said information to.
  49. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Clarified with the next post after that as meant to take that quote out after seeing Matthieu acted again.
    Saw that, was replying as i was reading posts.
  50. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Someone else said they knew who Medivh was, and that someone else was a scum.
    Im pretty confident I know who Medivh is. Solely based on activity level and posting style.
  51. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    What about the possibility of Art being stumped scum?
    Highly unlikely, since all Scum have acted since Art was made a tree
  52. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Who is this referring to? If me, I posted that quote from VK to show that what Bacon was saying was incorrect based off of that.
    What Im saying is, If you just quote things, and post nothing else, it not helpful. Comment what you want people to see from the quote.
  53. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    You keep posting quotes, but not saying anything about them. What are you trying to say?
  54. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Didnt get any notification or anything??
    Its unlikely to be a notification. It would be more you paying attention. Hey, I know I voted for X, why am I not on there. Hey VK, was that a mistake?
  55. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @ArtTheClown Do you have ANY input. You are alive and still able to post. This could be helpful if you have any different thoughts. Top 3 town/scum and why?

    @SolidSnake Aside from no vote today, what do you think of our situation? Top 3 town/scum and why?
  56. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: JackSparrow
    I should probably post
    Anything else to add? You posted once last phase and only once this phase. If you dont want to incur listo's wrath, maybe participate.
  57. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Wasn’t that GC?
    Grumpy had a 3day immunity from d1 votes. Solidsnake was killed at the end of D1, but revived N1.
  58. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Looks like a silence. We've been talking about it.
  59. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    That’s true but then he was brought back to life.
    Nobody was brought back to life, aside from the N1 revive
  60. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    For some reason I thought Jack was at like 4 votes and next best train was 2. I did not realise it was this close. Whats concerning is that my main TRs arent really on a wagon together.
    Spread pressure to see what info can come of it. Do we need to end the day early when others havent even weighed in on the day?

    I think it looks good to have options. As long as we consolidate tomorrow before the deadline.
  61. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Some people choose to holster their actions. If the rest of the scum team is acting, its easy for 1 to say, "no action" for me tonight. Ive done it as town and scum in the past.
  62. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    How can you be least impressed with me when ppl dont even show up every fucking day
    Some people tend to sign up for games and not play. Why, I dont know. I would have chopped them earlier, but now in the mid-late game, need to start going after the reads we have and use PoE.
  63. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I have rpd since like d2 the fact you havent noticed this is utterly disgusting. I show up everyday and give my opinions

    As for top 3 town

    Probably moana xavier and hulk is growing on me

    3 scum saron bacon and masterchief and mediv
    Ive noticed, just didnt comment on the RPing til now. Just saying if thats all you bring to the table, why keep you.
  64. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @JackSparrow Who are you top 3 town and scum, and why?
  65. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Whats ironic is i have a job and cant be on here 24/7 like a bunch of you pushing me
    There was a good 8hr period, maybe longer, where nobody said anything in thread. So other people have lives too.

    Why are you town? what have you done to help town?

    Only thing I remember from you all game is Jack RPing.
  66. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Satsu was one to make interesting plays, iirc
  67. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Would GC put 3 of his buddies in that list?
    would be a ballsy play
  68. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Unvote:
    Vote: Hulk Hogan

    To have a vote out
  69. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Ok, I voted last night on a bad read on my end. I see where people are coming from with Sauron. I may not see it myself, but I understand.

    Quick look at what happened since last i looked, Jack is at L-1
  70. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    There are 3 words that you can say. That wouldn't be allowed?!?!?
    This is why I have a hard time believing anything they are saying right now
  71. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    That’s what I’m trying to do. I realize the write ups don’t prove my alignment but if people can figure our my role, I think that could help a lot because I seriously doubt town will want to vote me out if they can figure it out.

    Croissant and backup Peach got voted out. Scum needs me dead because my role is a major threat to them.
    Scum want all town dead. And we all have roles of some sort that are a pain for them to deal with. Again, you arent saying anything to really prove anything
  72. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hard to say any of AJs 12 posts between d/n1 were anything useful
  73. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Jack voted me right after I made the posts hinting at my identity. I find that suss.
    Just saying im town, im town, look back, doesnt make you town. You've yet to do things to prove your towniness
  74. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I’m not scum but I’m not going to be able to convince anyone since I can’t claim.
    You dont have to straight up claim. You can also ask VK in discord if something you want to say would be considered a claim before saying it in thread.

    Claiming isnt the only way to drive your points home. You can ask people directed questions about activities you may have done. It could let people on to who you are and actions youve taken.
  75. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: Sauron

    Is in my PoE, so pressure and money where mouth is.
  76. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Did he give you the same hint?
    We did have a conversation about it and without saying his name, I asked about weekend activities
  77. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Is it wrong if Moana tells everyone who Rikishi was? Not game character because Moana doesn't know. The real poster.
    Im also aware of the real poster and not the in-game character.
  78. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    He’s not flipped so hopefully the Kish can be saved dude!
    Not flipped, looks like a cannibal kill. Highly doubtful we will see a rez
  79. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    grumpy was morrison the super joat its right in the write up
    So 3 scum alive not 4 from the previous post then

    Lora, Diva, Matt to find.

    Guess I need more sleep or more caffeine
  80. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Dead Scum:
    Bookie
    GF Busdriver
    Backup
    Super JOAT

    Living Scum:
    Lora - Killer (Different types of kills? last seemed cannibal)
    Diva - RB?
    Matt -JOAT (bussed n2, then whatever last night)
    Morrison -
  81. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Ok... something seems a little off to me.

    24 players
    1 -3p
    8 - scum (4 dead, 4 other named)

    a bit over the normal 1/3 anti-town ratio
  82. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Seeing as Matthieu just acted, could be Hulk? :D
    Looks like Art is cleared of scum, since tree wouldnt have any actions.

    But really shitty on the part that they arent actively assisting town.
  83. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    nero-confused.gif
    Hit with a restriction? only gifs? or just confused in general?
  84. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    He also suspected Moana and Himself were likely targets.

    Moana is hard clear right now with multiple attempts on their life.
  85. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sucks that my boy Rikishi is no more. We had a good conversation last night. He was a neighborizer or some sort.

    He was sus of Sauron, Masterchief and Hogan/Seph (last 2 were a toss up for him)
  86. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    DivaSmurf was given a mission and he would see it through. He went and found Medivh, watching where he was going. DivaSmurf snuck up behind Medivh and cut a hole in Medivh’s bag, laughing as things started to fall out. Medivh saw things falling and quickly tried to pick them up, completely distracted from what he was doing.”

    I’m trying to decide what this means for Medivh.
    I initially read it as a RB. Medivh would need to spend time to pick up all their stuff. Doesnt really clear them. Nothing this game has really given us information about Medivh.
  87. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I'd need to go back and check - I'm writing this straight after reading your comment - but Firebert was the backup and we saw them using powers similar to what Sabi/Gibbs/Jarrod had, because he died first. If the backup then dies their team should lose that power (emphasis added becuase each game runner is different). The only power that stays with scum is their factional kill.
    It also depends on if scum have an ability to reshuffle their abilities. In some of the role madness games that was available to the scum team.
  88. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sorry I missed the warning that the day was ending early. I hope my sleep vote won't come hurt me.

    I am wondering if ending the day early was a scum attempt to learn more about whether Listo HAD to act, or if they were simply trying to shut down further conversation about who we should look at next, and why.



    I don't doubt that. But void also has messed with us by having roles that do not appear in the write-up. Unless players are perhaps just not acting?

    It's very hard to put a spreadsheet together when we don't have the list of characters.


    Hopefully new and improved?
    I think it was a consensus that with the circle of light spreading, it was a better idea to end the day early then let it reach full size. No telling what it would have done. In a previous game there was a similar mechanic that occurred. I believe there was a reduced chance on NAs when we let that day go on after multiple warnings.

    Sleep vote is better then not voting. Not voting would have given listo another potential target.
  89. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I don't know if there's anything here, but this goes back to the seems content to let town lead vibe.
    Its an interesting list for reads. A high poster, 2 MIA, 2 that were counter trains to each other and Art.

    Would Alysrazor put a teammate in this and give them a town lean?

    Gibbs was MIA and ended up flipping red (listo killed n2)
    Peach, Croissant and Sora are confirmed and dead town.
    Art was stumped (was he town or scum??)
    AJ was replaced by Sauron and took a bit to get involved.
  90. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Maybe he’s just resting?

    @Listo95
    @Listo95
    @Listo95


    ….okay maybe he’s dead.
    Stop pinging the player listo. He isnt in the game. Its a the character listo thats in game.
  91. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @Listo95 why did you stump Art?
    That user is not a player... the character listo did the killing of 2 scum and stumped Art
  92. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    @XavierWoods

    It just read like something a buddy wouldn’t likely say to the other. Do you disagree?
    If Medivh is who I think it is, we wont get help from them no matter the alignment. So a scum teammate could say it.
  93. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Good sign for Master maybe?

    Looks antipartnery.
    Explain this, because 1 quote doesnt give the whole story. Not sure what you're trying to say.
  94. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Why is Art the only stump here? Why not Croissant, Hades or Peach?
    Because listo decided to stump Art, not others. Ask listo that question.
  95. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I know I am town, and absolutely don't know about both you and Hulk. I lean you as more neutral than town because of your voting record, but your posts feel a bit more townie of late.

    Why is it that you feel a wrestler has to be scum? Hogan hasn't been super vocal and while I like what he posted, there isn't enough of it to make me feel like I can come off of neutral at best.

    I am also back to thinking that our stump ArttheClown was scum. The simple fact is that he hasn't posted anything remotely useful to town, and a town stump would have -no fear whatsoever of doing so. The lack of reveal adds to the uncertainty and therefore benefits scum.
    Its not that one of us has to be scum, was more a question to get thoughts going. Putting out feelings to see reactions and what people are thinking.

    Also fearful of a scum stump. Then again, could really be dependent on who is behind the character. Some people really dislike a VT role, others thrive in it. Right now it looks like someone that doesnt do well in a VT role and wants some power to make NAs
  96. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    To start off, I still don't understand whatever the heck the Princess Peach was doing. Lying to fellow townspeople, in a game where we have so little ability to use prior experience to read each other, certainly felt like a scum move to me. Clearly it did to a lot of us, including our most vocal SZ. RIP, as your voice will be missed here.
    The Princess was a targeted backup, and Croissant was a bodyguard. I don't know what a targetted backup does, but maybe it does nothing until we lose a doc or a cop?


    It appears to me that Twintania was copped.

    I will
    Vote: Twintania

    and then
    Vote: Unvote to give more folks time
    Backup would likely be able to use abilities from a dead townie. Not sure if they would need to pick the night before to be able to use it, or if they had a list of dead town abilities each added to each night (provided a townie died)

    I can, however, see how Peach would think anyone had a more useful role on d2. With no town dead, Peach would essentially be a VT
  97. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    No I do not but if you want another mislim, whatever.
    It could be a mislynch, but you still havent given your opinion. You produced someone elses list and asked if they were experienced scum. You activity today hasnt shown me that you are town.
  98. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I still think Sauron has some good scum equity.

    Very early in the day, lets not rush a twin lynch and let people come in and talk.
  99. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: Twintania
    Think thats enough info for me

    Vote: Twin
  100. XavierWoods

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    NAs:
    Morrison - unsure what this action was. Allow fluidity between members? (anyone can do any of the other team members actions?)
    Pablo - Motivated Sephiorth
    Morrison - Killed SubZero
    Marack - RB Alysrazor
    Lora - attempted to do something to Moana
    Tildey - Jailed Hulk
    Diva - RB Medivh
    Badger - Copped/Rolecopped Twin
    Firebart - Tarot card stuff
    Drey - Watched SZ for messages
    Listo - Killed Alysrazor

    So Morrison acting twice. It could be he was motivated, or faction abilities are just "performed" by Morrison. Im going with the later.


    Castle Rezam sensed the death of the Supremacy master and started to malfunction all on its own. Steam poured out from the mainframe and parts of the castle started to break off. A voice echoed throughout the land. “Error detected. No master. No allegiance. No purpose.”

    The castle then grew quiet, but a light started to slowly spread across the land emanating from the castle...

    Wonder what effect, if any, this will have on the game. Will scum potentially have a night of no actions? Improved actions for town?
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