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  1. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    oof
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    I was town until converted n3 btw.
  2. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Unseen win first time I get converted ever?
    Coincidence Reaction GIF
  3. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    So who do you think is scum?

    Also is it even humanly possible to sleep for 15 hours?
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    Very much so. I’ve done it when I was dead exhausted.
  4. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: Future

    This is where my head is leading me, and we have just over 5hrs until EoD.
  5. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    I dont think it does or players could get kings alignment by examining starting numbers or so. I think there were only 2 neutrals in this game however.

    Anyway listo knows best.
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    Correct. King is seperate from all starting BD/Unseen numbers.
  6. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Do we know in fact if there was a convert? If the was and scum is future/satsu then you or BN is the convert
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    We have no way to know. Assuming you aren't the MM, they easily could've targeted someone immune.
  7. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    EBWOP
    Possibly 5 but the 5th is very unlikely based on his comment from near the start. 4th is also kind of like that but could still be possible.
  8. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Of course without knowing which neut CWE likely is hard to plan around him. I have him down to possibly 4 different ones, each with varying issues when it comes to danger to BD.
  9. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Known: Rock is not assassin or convert, MTR claims bled hunter
    Likely: CWE is neut

    Unknowns for me: Future, Satsu, Rock, BN

    I honestly feel like best plan is to maybe lynch Future, bleed Satsu/Rock and jail (but not execute) the other. Finding both the Assassin and MM are important but if we can keep 1 of them locked down we can find the other with no converts/kills happening.
  10. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    So were you jailed last night? You can tell it. That would clear you from assassin and new recruit.
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    Well, could still be MM possibly.
  11. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also, why would I as a MM or Sin, get the Enforcer lynched? Enforcer is one of the strongest roles for Unseen lol.
  12. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    I didn't like how you lied about Jack and tried to manipulate us into his lynch when he was bleeding to death. I also didn't like how you tried to defend yourself as not unseen when none of those reasons were accurate. Also you think im scum anyways. lol
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    I literally didn't lie about Jack. I forgot how an interaction of MANY occurred. Even then, based on the info I had there was a greater than 0% chance that he could have survived the bleed.
  13. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    I don't fully trust BN and Listo but I think its just a Future/Satsu team prob
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    Still don't get why you don't trust me.
  14. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    you trust the two people that are willing to follow you. How convenient. Satsu needs to talk more about his thoughts on the game, as does future.

    What pings you about me and Future.
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    I 100% trust Mazer outside of that.
  15. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Whats future based on?
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    I feel like I can trust BN and Mazer, I know my own role, I think I narrowed CWE down, MTR is apparently bled. Leaves, Future, Satsu, and you. Of the three I haven't had any pings by Satsu.
  16. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    sure it is. :drevil:
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    It literally has been all game.
  17. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    is there any reason to believe that your scum read on me is anything more than rage fueled OMGUS?
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    Gut feel.
  18. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    MTR said:
    Okay. So I am bleeding and there is no doctor to heal me so I die at the end of night. I am the hunter so yeah give me top suspects and I am going to make some one bleed and take them out on my way out.
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    Honestly, shocked I'm not dead.

    My top suspects are Rock/Future.
  19. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    2hrs 8mins until day ends.
  20. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    the 3pups flip seems pretty apparent. If we're wrong, and he was truthful, would that change your thoughts any?

    Blind Ninja jump in on this too?
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    Would depend on what I see when I ISO him.
  21. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    Listo-no major changes in your earlier thoughts/reads?
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    Not really. Gut is still iffy with Rock. I'll need to try and ISO people to see if I find anything else.
  22. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    3puppies said:
    I did not believe he was the doctor, but I thought if he was, then I'd just be trading my life for his. And I wanted to keep playing.

    Selfish attitude on my part gonna get me yeeted
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    Don't even know how the role works.
    Laughing Out Loud Lol GIF by Minions
  23. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    What do you feel his motivation was for needing to make a claim then?
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    It was more of a soft claim in response to Foxxi.
  24. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    Is the primary argument against 3pups his night actions?


    Right now my trust list, is more of a trust listo.
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    And his claim. Foxxi can only be killed by 3 actions, Prince, Enforcer, Timesnatcher. Enforcer is the most likely and that is the conversion of the Knight, which 3pups claimed. Timesnatcher would cause a bleed to happen the same night, but Possessor can Possess to heal themselves, so unless she got RBd I find it unlikely, especially since I think she caused the death of either Matt/Morri. Enforcer is the most likely.
  25. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    If it's a true claim, I would guess 3pups is playing Rajah style with his move, and also basing it off my normal rep and not what I'm doing today.

    But I think I should be able to sleep for at least 4 hours tonight, and I've weathered the storm here.

    Looking forward to a full reread now.


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    Dear god why only 4 hrs? o.O
  26. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    does occupying me prevent me from using my role?
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    Yes.
  27. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    don't really like the "I don't like rock" with no reason but eh. I'll just claim out like everyone else and listo and BN can have egg on their faces. 3pups targeting Mazor over a claimed doc is ????

    Vote: 3puppers
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    You can say that tonight tyvm.
  28. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    So we agreed on no King. Fun times.

    Looking back seems like listo found some info. Nice find on that. Definitely fits with how Foxxi died.

    Full on agree here. 3pups should be the target. Also dont like rock, but thats a problem for another day.

    Vote: 3pups
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    I believe the prince should have a nice talk with him tonight.
  29. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: 3puppies
  30. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    3puppies said:
    Not me. I have protected Mazer both nights. I'd like to hear from him.
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    What a weird target with a claimed phys.
  31. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Scorned lose their passive if they are attacked 2 nights in a row. So couldn't she just have been shot t n1 and then again on n2 without the use of frenzy?
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    Possessor is immune to death at night.
  32. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    Im willing to go along with this I think. But we're still deciding on the king
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  33. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Look it’s simple. 3pup claimed knight. Only way to kill Foxxi as the possessor is with a timesnatcher or enforcer. Enforcer is the converted knight. 3pup is Enforcer.
  34. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    If anything Rock can talk to the prince tonight.
  35. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    other than me calling you scum and voting you yesterday, any reason why?
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    I don’t care about you anymore right now.

    I want answers from 3pup.
  36. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    3puppies said:
    All I know is that I survived, which I think means the person I protected was not targetted. But Jack says he's bleeding, which made me go look back at the roles.

    A bleeding player will die after two nights if not healed.

    Someone oughtta please heal our Pirate.
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    Found our likely N1 convert guys.
  37. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    That'd be fucking hilarious if they did, but sounds a little too troll.
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    I’ve seen it done :D
  38. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    This is going to sound like a derp but whatever. No matter what BD role I am if I become king I just become standard BD king and I adopt that role right?
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    Correct. You become a standard good king.
  39. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also they don’t normally eliminate them D2 lol.
  40. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    3puppies said:
    For those that have played this style before, and this has come up, is it more common to pick a new king, or to not have a king?
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    Normally there’s someone who is semi-trusted.
  41. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    So what kinda info are we working with? Because right now we dont know if Unseen had an inkling that Robo was on their side so its hard to gauge info from the VC? Other than that Id like to look at slots like Satsu who was very quiet and didnt vote.
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    Not a whole lot sadly. I can def see looking into Satsu. I obviously don’t trust Rock right now.
  42. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also you really don’t want me on trial. My role should be fairly obvious based on my info from yesterday.
  43. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Mazer said:
    Can "no king" just be voted on, or do we have to ratify a new form of government first?

    Blind Ninja, what are your thoughts on Jack and morro now?

    Cwe?
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    We need a full majority for a king.
    3puppies said:
    I have been very very busy with my couponing/shopping addiction and haven't had much time to sift through so many questions that have popped into my mind going back to the last day phase. We eventually got power back wee hours Sunday morning, which meant I had to clean up / put away stuff from a huge mess after cooking on the outdoor grill, digging out our generator, getting all the extension cords put away, etc. This coupled with a few unexpected couponing deals kept me busy tonight as well (53 free "sharing size" m&m's will be a great treat for the folks in the shelters).

    Anyway, back to my thoughts on the game. Our initial king was yeeted, and kudos to those who sniffed him out as scum. Vote history makes me feel better about everyone who voted for him.

    Looking at the overnight results continues to make my head hurt. Do I understand it right that we are supposed to elect a new king today, and if we don't hit a majority within 24 hours, the leading vote becomes king? But some of you are talking about having no king? How does that work? I will have to re-read the rolecards a few more times to try to figure out.

    The Pirate was telling the truth about bleeding. He wasn't healed so he bled out. He was one of the yellow neutrals.

    Nightengale flipped as the orange neutral killer, so a threat to town. Not sure what to think of her sus list because she wasn't town herself, but am I right that she was alone? Initial write up said one orange.

    Losing Morrison (Sheriff) and Matthieu (Physician) make it tough for us.

    Am I right that we have two purple cult and two red unseen to find, plus 1-2 other yellow neutrals? Since robo flipped red as a threat to town, does that mean the game started with 3 red, 2 purple, 1 orange and 2 yellow?

    Then I went and looked at what the King's role does. Unless there is some well played scum theater, if I were the king, I would probably put Rock and Listo on trial. We could probably learn something based on who would vote for each of these two.
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    We started with 2 Unseen and an Unseen King. Again, Unseen don’t know if the king is good or evil and the king doesn’t know the unseen members. As of now we have 3 Unseen alive, 1-2 Neuts, rest BD. Best case scenario is 6 BD, worst is 5.
  44. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    FutureHold said:
    I mean the question is do we need a king? Seems that there is a lot of distrust and a new king wouldn't last as long either. It is interesting what we know so far. Personally I'm suspicious of Rock, but maybe Foxxi is throwing me off, was she trying to town side?
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    Having a king is nice, if we can ensure they are BD or BD-leaning neutral. Otherwise game pretty much ends.
  45. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    Since both of you are here... Who are your top 2/3 choices for new king? and why?
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    Honestly? I don't think I have anyone. I'm more than willing to go Kingless for the rest of the game.
  46. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also Blind, the reasoning you have isn't fully correct.

    The only way to kill Foxxi who is death immune but not bleed immune is with either a Timesnatcher or Enforcer. This says their N1 recruit was a success, I also had something happen to me last night making it impossible for me to be 2 Unseen roles.
  47. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    or you recruited on n1 instead of killed?
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    Unseen can do both. Mastermind does the recruitment and Assassin kills.
  48. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    I don't trust any of your "confirmed info" b/c you lied about Jack. Even if as you say the unseen didn't know that the king was unseen that doesn't mean you can't be unseen or the other 3rd party
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    Oh shush. My info was 100% accurate but just because I didn't know Jack wouldn't die I'm evil.
  49. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Or maybe attacked a death immune person
  50. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Wait can't be assassin RBd, they killed Val. Somehow Foxxi was RBd.
  51. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    I think im picking up what you're putting down.

    Any involvement in only 1kill on N1?
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    No. It's entirely possible the assassin/Foxxi got RBd N1.
  52. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    Lets just say I dont trust either one of you to be king at this point.
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    Oh I don't want it anyways. Me being king is actually bad for the BD.
  53. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    that's not really how it works
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    I had confirmed info and you still think I'm evil. What role am I? You should be able to give a small list.
  54. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    yes, blame the mod instead of just reading the new abilities/mechanics or you could have just been lying
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    Ooh how scary. So if I'm evil what role am I?
  55. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    like you either have bad info or you were just being manipulative to get a jack lynch. I trust nothng you say.
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    Well SORRY that Void made changes from what I recall from the original version of the game.
  56. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    that you wanted to vote Jack over unseen? really makes me think that you can't be unseen
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    Unseen don't know if the king is evil or not :D
  57. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    tell me more!
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    You're the person who was ignoring everything I was saying yesterday. Not my fault.
  58. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    oh noes, someone that I think is scum doesn't want town to be on the throne.
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    Physically can't be scum :D
  59. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    Why is Foxxi dead if shes immune to night deaths?
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    Possibly unseen got an Enforcer/Timesnatcher.
  60. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Was going to suggest matt as king but obviously can't do that mow. I'd volunteer to be kind b/c I'm town. I kinda think MTR is town.
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    I want you nowhere near that throne.
  61. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    So if he wont die from a bleed, he would know it. You think he is trying to bait a heal as a hinderance to town?
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    That and also most of the roles that won’t die to it are bad for us to keep around.
  62. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Blind Ninja said:
    So you think he is either lying about the bleed or that someone will heal him? which way you leaning?
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    No I believe based on my info that the majority of roles he can be won’t die from the bleed.
  63. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I can def get on with voting Robo but still think removing Jack today will be better for us. Info I have makes it unlikely he will die from the bleed.
  64. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I hate it.
  65. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Nightingale said:
    @Listo95 - you believe Jack to be a neutral. I see no reason currently to disbelieve this, but how convinced are you that he is a neutral we should be concerned about?
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    Odds are he is very likely not good to keep around.
  66. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    Do you think he is involved in nightingale restriction or he decided to fake it on a fly?
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    I can see either tbh.
  67. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also not 6 other scum. Unseen/Cult have a max of 3 today + NK. And 2-3 neuts depending on BD numbers.
  68. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    I just really don't get it. He's dying. Do you think he's lying about that? You said no, I think. Even if you think he's scum that's going to die there are still 6 other scum...why not go after them?

    but also says this isn't really your scum meta so eh
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    Because. Based on the info I have, I find it unlikely for him to be Unseen/Cult. Unlikely town based on his behavior. That leaves neutrals.
  69. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    maybe but his vote is still really dumb
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    Still better than yours though!
  70. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Listo95 said:
    Wait, 1 more role he could be. Still bad to keep around but it wouldn't die.
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    EBWOP

    Would die*
  71. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Wait, 1 more role he could be. Still bad to keep around but it wouldn't die.
  72. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Matthieu said:
    Wasn't Listo the fool last time this game was run? I'd laugh if it were the same this time around.
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    I would be yelling at Void in game and in Discord.

    Oh also, From what I know, Jack won't die tonight even if the bleed is real.
  73. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Vote: Listo95
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  74. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Why does claiming that he's bleeding make us want to lynch him? Unless he IS the fool and wants to be healed. He could be some other scum that's trying to pretend to be the fool so we don't lynch but he's bleeding to death so eh...listo's vote is pretty bad
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  75. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    JackSparrow said:
    Right but could unseen master recruite n1 if the sin day bleeds?
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    Yes. Day actions mean nothing for stopping night actions.
  76. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Are these the roles that you guys normally use or are these specific to this game?
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    Specific to this game. It is based on the online game Throne of Lies.
  77. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    FutureHold said:
    i thought there was a convert night and a kill night, unless the first night sets the pace
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    Unseen can convert and kill in the same night. Mastermind is able to convert every other night when successful (recruit n1, n3, etc). But the Assassin is the one who carries out the kill. For the cult the Cult Leader is in charge of both the recruit and kill.

    Generally, they always attempt to recruit n1 when cult. Risky people can use Eradicate to kill though.
  78. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    But is it really?
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  79. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    I dont fully understand Listos reason for not believing the bleed atm but Listos posting itself seems quite towny
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    IT ISNT THE BLEED BUT THE “POST RESTRICTION”!!
  80. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    Is the bleed the only thing making you vote Jack?
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    It’s called reading.
  81. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Xanjori said:
    Would you like to follow this up with a vote on Satsu?
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    I like my vote on Jack for now.
  82. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    Easier to say cultists then cultlike facion members.
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    Cult/Unseen. As easy as that…
  83. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    I am genarally in favor of d1 elimination, but you see this is a semi open setup with starting composition listed. If i get it right there were only 3 slots that needed to be eliminated yesterday. 2 cultists and an sk. It is a 16 player game so 15 excluding the king. So if someone want to make a shot in the dark for 20% chance then it is up to them. I dont think that was worth it.

    I mean you can add neutrals to the pile but those are hit and miss. Like Alchemist and Mercenary dont need to be killed. Fool better not be killed. Only leaves sellsword and scorned as not a wasted yeet.
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    Why say cultist specifically?
  84. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Satsu said:
    Are talking about yesterdays talking restricion or bleeding?
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    The restriction mainly. Bleed is def plausible but all that means is he isn’t likely to be cult/unseen. Could easily be an evil neut.
  85. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Nightingale said:
    Is there a particular reason for this? Or you just don't believe him?
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    I don’t believe him.
  86. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: JackSparrow
    I wanna start here today.
  87. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Vote: sleep

    nothing is going to happen again today so there's no point in even trying. Let's speed up the inevitable.
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    ... It hasn't even been 2 hrs?
  88. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Nightingale said:
    Val is a strange kill....He said almost nothing didn't he? And only one kill means we may be dealing with a cult and either a sorcerer or possessor I think? Or that was an unseen kill and we have a reaper maybe, we should pay attention to see if anyone doesn't post today. Also possible that protections or occupies might have been successful and skew what this looks like, though I don't think anyone tried to kill listo.

    I have no more info on players than I did yesterday, and so will go right back to my primary suspect from D1 for now. I do expect and want more from robo today though.
    Vote: Morrison
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    That would be correct. A Reaper is still possible if they used Circle for some reason N1.
  89. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: Sleep
  90. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    rock meets hard place said:
    Can anyone confirms that Nightingale has in the past tried to preach the merits of day 1 play before?
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    Yes.
  91. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    MTR said:
    To be honest I don't think Foxxi is lying. I am like others and question claws. But again that doesn't mean he is scum either and could just be trolling.
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    Yeah, the fact void forgot to put in the king alignment odds wouldn't shock me if he forgot to say they couldn't mention it.
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    rock meets hard place said:
    but why would town willingly break the rules? So to me it just makes me think they are lying about it, I guess.
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    Well the downside of failing it also means nothing to some roles. So...
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    Matthieu said:
    I'm going to assume it's legit, since restrictions can and have targeted multiple players.

    Between the two, though, I think if either of them were to fake it then it'd likely be Claws. If only because Foxxi posted first.

    Though like I said, I think it's legit. An annoyance for them both (and anyone who can't understand French) but at least it's happening on D1 and not at a more critical point.
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    Only The Apostle has a limit of doing a restriction twice. Fool/Scorned can do it every day.
  94. Listo95

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    Xanjori said:
    Please no, not the other languages again.
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    One of Foxxi's posts essentially said we have at least 1 of Fool, Scorned, Apostle. Assuming Jack's is true also that means 2 of any combo of those 3.
  95. Listo95

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    CWE said:
    That changes...nothing(ish).

    :cheers:
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    VoidKitten said:
    Forgot to put this in starting post. Starting King is rolled with a 60% chance to be good and 40% chance to be evil. Same way as last game.
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    It honestly really doesn't. But now everyone knows the chance of Robo being good/evil from a statistical standpoint!
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    We also should be able to determine if its Unseen or Cult tonight.
  97. Listo95

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also on the king starting alignment, I don't know if void would follow the game's basic rules for it but it is a 65/35 for good/evil respectively.
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    Nightingale said:
    We don't get to know which roles are included- that's part of how this game runs. We know the things that *could* exist, but we have to use the info as we get it to figure out what *does* -- and also important to keep in mind and know for anyone not familiar with this: there can be duplicates of roles, except for the ones that are unique. Prince is unique, hunter is unique, there are soms more I can't recall off the top of my head too I'm sure
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    Mystic, Sellsword, Inq, Scorned, NKs, and Merc are the main other unique roles. You also have the converted form of Hunter/Mystic.
  99. Listo95

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    Nightingale said:
    Pretty sure Val tried to overthrow the king immediately last time too, so I wouldn't take it personally Robo.
    Vote: Listo
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    Remove the person who knows most about this style of course :p
    Nightingale said:
    As for sleep, I don't think there's any particular reason it *can't* be done - the last game had a whole trial thing where the first half of the game day was picking who was on trial, and the second half was deciding if that person would be yeeted or not; and there were several times they were not yeeted, which is effectively sleeping - but while there will be info from roles potentially after a night phase, it's not necessarily going to be as cut and dry early game unless the paladin/sheriff gets lucky
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    There are multiple ways to get info honestly. Any investigative role. Drunk could tech help, same with Mystic, Observer, Princess, and Maid are the main info gathering roles besides Paladin/Sheriff.
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