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  1. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    GG team!
  2. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    No I realise what you mean, dont overthinking it Psycho
  3. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Not content to let Snorlax steal the show, Agumon set out to show he too could commune with the dead extremely efficiently. Agumon found one of his fallen partners and communed with him. He took this newfound power and located Xanjori. Xanjori had just finally let the welt go down on his forehead, when the sudden appearance of Agumon caused Xanjori to trip again, knocking himself out. Agumon took the time to examine Xanjori’s form and rustle through Xanjori’s pockets claiming his prize.
  4. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Quick thoughts about Exodia. My early thought process was that it would take multiple rounds to take him out because you would have to deliver a hit for each soul he absorbed plus one for him. Basically, each time Exodia successfully kills he gets a BPV. My theory for him has also been that he would need to kill two red and two green without losing a life to win.

    Exodia History:
    N1: Exodia Takes out Val 1.0, Mystical Elf/Garbador (+1 life)
    N2: Exodia Kills DivaSmurf, Time Magician/Marowak (+1 life)
    D3: Psycho Shot during gun game, survives (-1 life)
    D3: Psycho kill attempt due to most use of the word "scum," survives (-1 life)
    -----If my theory is correct, a kill attempt on Psycho at this point would have succeeded
    N3: Exodia takes out Claws, Emrakul/Gabumon (+1 life)
    N4: Exodia tried to kill Listo, Seto Kaiba/Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon but Oko took him out first (+0 life)
    N5: Exodia kills Llettuce, Blue Eyes Toon Dragon/Pikachu (+1 life)

    If my above theory is correct, then its still possible for Exodia to meet their wincon by successfully killing one more town person and one more scum. It also means that it will take at least 3 kill attempts to take out Exodia (assuming no additional successful kills in the interim).
    Hmm, that kinda thing would mean that provided he gets 2 NKs in a row and they never double target him for kills he'd almost always be unkillable no?
  5. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Vote: Xanjori
    It perplexes me you're not even making an attempt to get the SK out.

    Vote: Val

    Just getting a vote out for now
  6. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Aighty. Ill not cast a vote until Psycho has done his thing
  7. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I probably won't be around much today and want to update my spreadsheet. Can we not speed yeet today so I can at least work some shit out tomorrow?
    Cant we speed run Val+Mazer?
  8. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    So last is Val or Mazer?
  9. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I take it we dont wanna speed hammer?
  10. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Unvote: Crackle
    Vote: Matthieu

    Psycho, Xanjori has been trying to kill you at night as a head's up.
    Oh you stole my role. But no Ive never tried to target Psycho. In fact, as seen in the write-ups no town has targeted Psycho since Ditto did.
  11. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Iirc wasnt there an end of day phase were scum 'weakened' or attempted to do so, but i dont think it worked? I know there was definitely something. I will have to look back on the end of days.
    Yeah, from how I understood it appeared to be a type of RB?
  12. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    It is strange, though if I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt then I'd expect you to do the same for me. I wouldn't avoid taking out an obvious threat to my team if I were scum - and that's something that bothers me about Crackle's attempts to paint me as scum based on my vote record. It wouldn't make sense for me to deliberately avoid yeeting scum if I were just going to let them get slaughtered at night.

    Maybe it's just as simple as scum consisting of players that aren't really paying attention to what's happening/are too afraid to make any ballsy moves?
    Well this is why I wanted to ask you about Val, see what you make of him. But Psycho is right on that maybe we should look closely at Lettuce and Mazer?
  13. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    If Psycho is possessed of protection - such as a BPV
    Yeah but so far we've not seen any action against Psycho. This is what has me confused
  14. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Matt do you have a read on Val?
  15. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Anyone that believes Id wolf and not insta kill the SK is outta their mind. I know Ive not played a wolf with you guys in actual years but come on, if theres one thing I can fucking do as a wolf its good Night Actions.
  16. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    The former based on questioning Psycho to such a degree to the point of it seeming like a slip born of frustration
    You think Id somehow NOT shoot Psycho dead when it became clear what he was and then tinfoil it in thread instead that maybe Psycho isnt actually yellow and thats why red are hitting random targets cos theyre still hunting Exodia?
  17. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Are you insinuating I'm red?

    What's your theory there? Because one living person knows for a fact who I am.
    Because theyre letting you walk all over them lol. Youve killed two in the past two days while being "outed."

    Its likely that theyve been hit by a mass RB and then a mass redirect looking at last two nights which could explain it. But otherwise its just...wild
  18. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    It's listed in the writeup...

    Living Players:

    1. Crackleslap
    2. CWE
    3. FutureHold
    4. Llettuce
    5. Matthieu
    6. Mazer
    7. PsychoSoldier
    8. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0
    9. Xanjori
    Well yeah I know that but I dont open it up every time I post. But I agree Ive got no reason to clear Mazer
  19. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Cape90 - 9 (CWE #1533, Psycho #1538, Xanjori #1486, 3puppies #1641, Kareemah #1688, Future #1708, GrumpyCat #1801, Mazer #1847, MTR #1858)
    Psycho - 6 (Crackleslap #1481,
    Listo #1701, Cape90 #1754, Val #1776, Claws #1778)
    Kareemah - 1 (Lettuce #1504)
    Claws - 1 (Matthieu #1714)

    Lets revisit this vote count shall we?

    Ngl this vote count looks truly awful for scum. And giving our current possible POE, those in orange, don't look great either.
    Although Ill give it to you this does look good for Psycho not actually being red
  20. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Sadly while it makes logical sense to vote him, we need him to kill scum for us to even have a chance.
    Explain to me why a red says this about Psycho
  21. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Someone explain to me why the fuck Psycho hasnt been targeted by red yet btw?
  22. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Im sorry one day Ill actually spreadsheet this shit and not be confused as fuck when we get to late game
  23. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Why Matthieu and Val? No concerns about Mazer?
    Wait I keep losing track of who the fucks alive, dead and who is mech cleared
  24. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Oh yeah I should clarify, theyve not just RB'd me here my ability has been stolen.

    So uh

    Gl
  25. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    This is the second time this game Ive been RB'd btw. And at a point where you're murdering scum I dont see how a world exists theyd self use it over blocking you
    Although the fact theyve blocked me again is something in its own right.

    Anyway Matthieu/Lettuce/Val as a general POE should be good yes? Im fine with start on the left and working towards Val last
  26. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I still feel like Cape's interactions with Xanjori are less likely to be partnered, and while the roleblock could be a smokescreen, I think it still clears him of Agumon and Oko, and he should be cleared of every other scum role we've seen as well, so I wouldn't look there.
    This is the second time this game Ive been RB'd btw. And at a point where you're murdering scum I dont see how a world exists theyd self use it over blocking you
  27. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Uhhh, so...Oko targeted their own partner? Maybe that was due to Dark Magician Girl?
    Oh true
  28. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Ok someone has info right?
  29. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Has Val posted yet today?
  30. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I mean if Psycho is taking shots in the POE its not only a kinda extra vote in thread for town but wolves DO have to deal with him, his KP alone is swinging this game
  31. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    When you talked about not reading was there something else that leads you to believe that they were gunning for Psych.
    Well I assume they must have targeted him somehow, because you dont just let an SK run loose. But the red team was hit by some kinda interference
  32. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Which part?

    The part where I said outside interference?
    Yeah, Im pretty sure this is why Psycho is alive
  33. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I mean yes but the write-up would appear to instantly nuke your theory
  34. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Because that would explain why psycho was able to survive and get his move through, short of outside interference working.
    You not read the write-up? :D
  35. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Top 4 today for me are: Psycho (outed evil), Mazer (2 maybe 3 red flags triggered), Listo (my heart pick), and Val (top sus person).

    :panic:

    I don't know what to do.
    Im still worried Pyscho has conned us and will win tonight. Part of me thinks we kill in one of the other 3 though and Psycho targets another there.
  36. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Idk how I’m supposed to say I’m town without breadcrumbing or saying why I did last night
    How much have you managed to read? Like reading the alive player list is there any names that stick out to you?
  37. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Are our mechanical clears Future adn Crackle?
  38. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    This is probably a towny wish. Even though I don't like how he reacted to me saying Claws was scum, I think scum definitely don't want me to be officially added to town numbers with a protective ability. Especially from Xan who is great at making interesting wishes.
    I almost feel like you're buttering me up. Also Im like, do we actually have to kill you to win the game? Because I feel thats being slightly overlooked, although the write-up showing you not eating a soul is a positive sign.
  39. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    This was the interaction I was thinking of. Comes off like scum trying to discredit a correct push while also trying to appease CWE by townreading him.

    I guess it could have just been some softball distancing since CWE never got momentum on the Cape push, but I think Cape's response ultimately comes off like someone trying to find the right way to respond to the sus.
    Hmm yeah no I agree that is a good look for CWE, so would prefer to keep him out the POE for now
  40. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    What is your rationale for me. I'm interested in a few on your list. And a couple more.

    Do you feel good about kareemah and cwe?
    I think its mostly POE, maybe Im recalling incorrectly but didnt someone have something clearing for CWE? Also no, I dont feel good about Kareemah but others are already applying a bit of pressure there
  41. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    For some reason my gut reckons Listo/Val/Mazer could all be hits
  42. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I was considering this. But BOTH trains had info so how many do we think hopped on their own teammates' train over an outed sk?
    Yeah its one where technically there isnt a "wrong" train to be on, its probably better to look for some closer VCs in the middle where maybe red felt they had more chance of saving Cape
  43. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Maximillion Pegasus bowed his head to his fallen comrades. He would not let Industrial Illusions lose. Now that casualties were starting to mount, he used his Millenium Eye to pierce into everyone's souls. “Now this is going to hurt, but it will hurt them more than us.”
    Also I got the feeling from the write-up that this was a mass RB? Which makes the amount of deaths wild
  44. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I mean I wont lie, Im half tempted to just nuke the Psycho wagon, but some red must have gone Cape when it was dealing with info
  45. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    This actually might be a good look for Listo
    Oh right maybe this, but looking at this list its extremely townsided, with I believe the top 6 not on his team? (Thats based on MTR being clean.)
  46. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Was I dreaming when I remembered there was a reason Listo wasnt bad?
  47. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Id prefer they unvoted (so we dont hit maj early) and then discuss where theyre likely to vote and why
  48. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I really dont think people should be on vanity wagons today
  49. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Claws outing very hard I see
    Also I dont like this, I dont think anything Claws is saying is scummy here. He is having natural thoughts for a towny and you wanting to dismiss it makes me think you are just trying to con us.
  50. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Cape lived but Wind died. That's a travesty
    I mean scum were always going to stack BPVs. WWA dying to his own gun is unfortunate. No flip on Tildey sucks, but maybe her stump posting will reveal more.
  51. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I'm actually ok with Psych's initial logic, but I don't like him starting to paint too deeply that people who weren't willing to listen to him were more likely scum. If he keeps surviving, I would caution that nobody LET him push that too hard. There's going to likely come a time that dealing with Psych may be the smart play. And if he tries to shoot down any discussion of that, he should not be allowed to pass.
    I wont lie I do think the tactically correct choice is to yeet Psycho today. But sometimes correct isnt fun.
  52. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Because people are insisting you're a wolf and the SK is promising to townside.
    Which I get can sound nuts, but welcome to FoS
  53. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    cool so like, why aren't we just killing them then? I am town
    Because people are insisting you're a wolf and the SK is promising to townside.
  54. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    well my legacy is in my reads, I am just confused on what is going on
    I think he is saying he has night info. He cant say what kinda info it is cos thats against rules, but just info.
  55. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    wait are you caught scuim?

    Vote: PsychoSoldier
    Caught SK if I understand correctly
  56. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I’m confused by this whole wishes thing, I thought blind ninja was the wish granter so how does that work now
    He has sent his little helpers to grant us a wish today. So you can make one in private in Discord and one in game thread in bolded blue. My advice is make it interesting if you want it granted.
  57. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    As much as I find Listo slightly sus he is right in we shouldnt end the day, especially a day we get to make wishes.
  58. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    If theres one thing Im known for, its throwing out crazy theories that both make no sense and are very wrong.
  59. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Or is Foxxi casting votes in secret?
  60. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Wait, now Crackle has two votes?
  61. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I wish for Psychos win con to be changed, his NK will be replaced with a non-consecutive doctor ability (can self target) and his new win con requires him to successfully block two NKs.
  62. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Well maybe if you weren’t new you would know that I’m also new and rarely play :)
    Unfortunately he is also dead
  63. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Part of me wants to keep Psycho alive so he can solve and play with his fun role.

    Other part of me thinks he just needs to survive one more day to meet win con and is playing towards that.
  64. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Have we seen any sign of a redirect before we start trying to leash the SK?
  65. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    What are general opinions around Mazer?
  66. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Unvote:

    Vote: Cape
  67. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    What's the usual ratio
    Uh no clue really, it depends how many 3Ps are in the game too
  68. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Also, I wanna say Nightingale is either town or benign 3p. Her role seems neutral at worst, and considering she seemingly can't be voted, it seems like it would be pretty awful for town if she was scum, because if you're caught with no kill power, then there's no way to win even if you have her dead to rights.

    Her reads also lined up with mine at the time for the most part, except she was more paranoid of Wind. I think Wind is probably still town, and the roleblock helps, but I'm not sure I'm ready to lock that.
    Do you have your reads to hand?
  69. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    It's cool and all, but unfortunately, you're now next to impossible to trust! :(
    Also I think this. As much as Id love to trust Psycho and keep him in the game I think we actually have to try and eliminate him. If he only needs 4 kills, any form of protection can get him to next 4 where he wins.
  70. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Well of course I am town - I was blocked last night, so I am eliminated from being 5 scum roles.
    Unless Im derping 6 scum acted n1?
  71. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I do think if Cape is a wolf then 3puppies is definitely town.
  72. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Was Psycho massively ahead in votes when he caved? It seemed so out of nowhere
  73. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    MTR is saying he has info that he's red

    Do you think it's fake?
    Oh hmm, well no I cant really argue info. But theres something about Capes reads list that struck me as towny, then I realised there could be a wolf in there, except if wolves know which wolf it is I dont see why theyd risk that one in a town read. So. I think 3puppies and Cape are not w/w
  74. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Wait I lied, 3puppies can technically be a scum yes?
  75. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Just to talk more about my Cape TR there, I genuinely believe there are reasons to think all the top 4 of his reads lists are in fact town.
  76. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    So overall this is where I am at

    MTR (revived)
    Cracklestep

    3puppies
    Xanjori

    GrumpyCat
    PyschoSoldier
    Claws

    CWE
    Blind Ninja

    Matthieu
    Mazer
    WindwardAway

    llettuce
    Kareemah
    Val
    FutureHold
    Listo
    Tidley
    Reads list is actually pretty good, makes me deepen my love...I mean TR for Cape
  77. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Listo feels like a hit too tbh

    Vote: Listo
  78. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Also have we had 5 scum act both nights?
  79. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    that wouldn't derp clear me anyways presumably
    A wolf team would tell you!
  80. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    So there was night chat open? Oops, I just saw it was night 2 then just... didn't post because it was night 2 and didn't look back
    Derp clear denied
  81. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Why do I do anything that I do?
    My head is going through quotes trying to form a connection, but honestly I dont know
  82. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Why is Matt naming WoW NPCs
  83. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Do we know if GC started with an extra vote yesterday?
  84. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    honestly id say consider yourself lucky you didnt get vk quiz like WHAT is Vks favourite video game those games suck
    Dude that fucking Harry Potter tournament you sent me to I had to answer what colour VKs car is and what did he get his daughter for her birthday
  85. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Thats the biggest point against Foxxi being Exodia yeah.
  86. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Foxxi could be Exodia, it just means the game is on a timer and probably something to stop us voting sleep :)

    Like we've got 3 days left before Exodia becomes unstoppable and kills us all.
  87. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Having all of yellow eliminated probably makes it easier for town to solve now. BN is a very good player and I am happy anyone who is not scum won, so I wouldn't say this wasn't a good wish.
    Exodia is still in play I believe
  88. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I assume its similar to the Listo role I had before, where I could choose to res one person and doing so would also cause reveals to happen on deaths
  89. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Or was BN the wish granter? The wish message came from yellow, and as "Team Rocket" was BN all of yellow?
    Yeah BN was the wish master
  90. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    So this is what happens when people dont really think about good wishes
  91. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    just let the dead rest in piece. gosh
    I mean tbf last time I had to ress someone so we would get flips, wouldnt surprise me if similar mechanic is in place
  92. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Like an SK team that has to kill people to achieve power but then also resses the same people they killed? Its a bit like wut
  93. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I read it as purely being flavour text. Ultimately Val was killed by yellow so I find it unlikely that Val, himself, is a yellow aligned player.

    The chance of there being shenanigans at play is never something that can be fully cast aside, of course, though having reread the thread even back on D1 some people seemed strangely eager to try and yeet Val towards the end of D1. Even when there were multiple outright no shows.
    I do keep explaining to you that I dont think Exodia and Team Rocket are aligned. Exodia is a SK and Team Rocket is a 2-4 man team?
  94. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I dont think a game like this would ever become mountainous. But you know its a pretty funny wish
  95. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Eh maybe Im misreading it and Meowth isnt ressing a Rocket member, but seems odd the mascot would be impartial.
  96. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    It's awesome because it's awesome because Val is coming back.
    You're literally saying Val is on team rocket
  97. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Why is this awesome? Do you not think he'd ress someone on his team?
  98. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Have you talked to her?
    I have not
  99. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Is Foxxi the wish granter?
    We dont know. Ive got suspicions around Foxxi but I aint airing.
  100. Xanjori

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Like as someone that got 6 wishes granted in the Harry Potter game its about knowing your host. Theyre never going to grant boring kill wishes, you gotta make it interesting and put something on the table they view as fun for us and them.
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