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  1. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    MTR said:
    The He-Man game the yellow team like steamrolled like a couple phases in a matter of minutes it felt like at the end. We went through multiple phases like bam bam bam. I was the losing survivor in that game with the like one of the coolest roles but it didn't get unlocked. :(
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    Found it, it was the WCW/WWF game Jarrod did. https://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=155277&page=94
    Specifically, posts 3751 to 3754 and then 3758 to 3761.
  2. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Kryllian said:
    I’d be curious to see a list of night actions and resolutions. Looking back the writeuls still leave. A lot if confusion about what really happened.
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    For my part, N1 I blocked you & Matthieu saw me target you. N3 my intended target was Nightingale, but I got redirected to BN. N5 the game had finished.
  3. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    MTR said:
    As far as the whole voting thing. I had not seen a game were that many scum were able to vote in a block to kind of end things but I have been on the losing end of scum piling on and taking people out at the end of a game more than once on their way to victory and didn't phase me. It was just smaller numbers.
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    There was the most recent rajah game (IIRC) where scum bascially railroaded the last day vote with consecutive posts, like they'd synchronised watches. Even as a townie, it was impressive to see.
  4. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Dreyski said:
    I don't know how a town team with Nightingale, Void and Psycho is getting reamed so badly. The only explanation is at least one is non-town.
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    I mean, I wasn't wrong...

    But I couldn't read anyone and didn't try to make a spreadsheet, so not my best showing.
  5. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    EBWOP Goodnight, not Nightingale :shakefist:
  6. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Night all

    Good Night Sleeping GIF by CBeebies HQ
  7. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    My spelling's getting so bad if I don't check before I post ::(:
  8. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    On My Way Goodbye GIF by Bubble Punk
  9. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    CRichardFoL said:
    We had the 4 death night remember?
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    Dorsn't invalidate what I said though.
  10. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

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  11. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    NGL, It's crazy we're so up against it after only two misyeets.
  12. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    But they can only win if players don't post or vote?
    Or are they a survivor role?
  13. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Unvote:

    Vote: Psycho
  14. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    I’m off to work in a minute and don’t have time to count so I’d rather not accidentally drop the hammer but I need to put a vote in. hopefully I’ll have some time this evening to change as necessary.
    Vote: Nightingale
  15. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Nightingale said:
    Why would scum redirect themselves to their kill? Why give town a group of names with a guaranteed scum in it?

    Like.... they could just direct a bunch of people at someone, and then have someone else kill that person, probably with a strongarm type kill incase any of the people they pointed that way did any protection actions. But then we should see six people having targeted BN and I don't see it.
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    According to writeup, BN was targeted by Listo, Iron Bull, Jackie, Claws and CMT. I have three working theories:
    1. There's a hidden action, for Mod reasons.
    2. It's a limitation of the power (must have 1 scum in the people you choose)
    3. Psycho isn't in communication wth the rest of his team (I think Mazer or Void have done this one before). They know who he is, but not vice versa.

    And I don't know how the Robot devil targeted a hider, although Jarrod's flip did reveal 'hider variant' I know Mazer sometimes has peculiar rules about hiders. But that's moot until endgame.
  16. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    I don't know how a town team with Nightingale, Void and Psycho is getting reamed so badly. The only explanation is at least one is non-town.

    Nonetheless, if we go with the BN lightning rod knowledge, Jarrod's dead and I'm town, which leaves one of Rock, Mattieu and Listo as CMT. I'll have to read back a bit.
  17. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

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  18. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Nightingale said:
    He may be confused or just wrong - but what makes you think it would not be in good faith?
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    Why would he fakeclaim to get someone potentially cleared of seven non-town roles yeeted? Why would he stake his life on it and then back down?

    Matthieu said:
    I have my reasons, follow them or don't.
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    Matthieu said:
    Very certain - and yes, I'll stake my life on it.
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    Matthieu said:
    Unvote: Kryllian

    If Dreyski doesn't think Kryllian is the way to go then I'll respect that.
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  19. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    rock meets hard place said:
    this is maybe a doc on me?
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    That's how I read it, but I was referring to the Listo action on you a little further down.
  20. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    CRichardFoL said:
    I had a secret tinfoil that Rock and Night are both scum and I was being massively snowed by both of them, yet Rock probably doesn't talk about Night the way they have today if they are scum/scum.
    Sure one of them can be 3rd party/scum, yet I don't see the two of them sharing a common scum chat.
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    Wasn't rock investigated N2 (but I can't accurately place the action)?
  21. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    VoidKitten said:
    So, in my games, the ressurections, wishes, mass roleblocks, etc were all unblockable. They just worked. But these are few and far between.

    I've also had some abilities work instantly and not during night so it just happened (usually my swap abilities)
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    Well, quite. I was thinking strongman kills and the like. But I don't see any of that N1. The closest is a double kill (one off? motivated?

    I'm now trying to think of a scenario where Matthieu gives his info in good faith. I'm really trying.
  22. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    rock meets hard place said:
    Even if kyrll was roleblocked I don't think that 100% means he can't be scum. It assumes that all scum acted and were in the write up and scum can't have a passive role. Also I think there was a scum action b4 the "block"
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    For the first part it's not impossible that he flips non-town. And if he does I'll tip my hat to him, and y'all can yeet me.
    But if I'm right, he can't be:
    Screwtape (was future)
    Psycho666soldier
    Robot Devil
    Mom
    Flemeth
    Corporate Music Tycoon
    Jennifer Lawrence

    on the second part, what's the point of a "block" if actions can bypass/precede it?
  23. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Vote: grumpycat

    placeholder vote in case everything goes off while I'm asleep.
  24. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Matthieu said:
    Very certain - and yes, I'll stake my life on it.
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    Why? Becuase you have a BPV?

    I have it on very good authority your read is wrong.
  25. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Kryllian said:
    The person I used my night action on is not the one listed in the summary. Neither my target, nor the one it says I targeted were noted in other actions from what I can tell. So someone is messing with something.
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    Well it's obvious Mazer is messing with something. But are you talking about n1 or n2?
  26. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Have to say I'm not happy with the Kryllian train, nor with Matthieu's reasoning. I guess we'll know more N3.

    As for questions about me, less is more is my style. 6,000 posts over 22 years of Rajah should prove that. Plus I really am busy during the day, Even sites like FOS are a pain to play over the phone, and there's family time to fit in as well.
    My position on the Robo vote is only because of the late switch, because in this game, a majority is better than not having one, unless you like having the hammer decreasing until scum can just roll yeets through.
  27. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    or eight because Xan posted while I was checking.

    We can test that...
    Unvote: MTR
    Vote: Robo
  28. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Xanjori said:
    Whens EOD? 26 minutes? And has anyone a VC to hand?
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    Using GC's numbers (#936), I have Robo on 7 and Void on 6. Modified hammer is 9.
  29. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    I'd best get a vote in...but things aren't much clearer.
    Vote: MTR
  30. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Kryllian said:
    Vote: psycho666

    The night summary has their name in red. It also has Listo in Green. Not sure if they are indeed themselves and alignment indicated or if someone got a rolecard with their name...
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    It’s that last one (I suppose someone could rand themselves).
    Did you get any notification about what happened to you n1?
  31. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Kryllian said:
    What's ND1L4L?
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    No Day 1 Lynch 4 Lyfe
  32. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    LemonDemonGirl said:
    Ok I'm going to guess that BN isn't Scum or anything because I'm still alive lol
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    You're not Lora and that's in your favour.
  33. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    rock meets hard place said:
    I think the big question is if it was a roleblock.
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    Well yes, the writeup is intentionally imprecise, but he wasn't killed, nor was he jailed (admittedly I'm only getting that from flavour) and I'm struggling to think of any other roles that would fit. Silencer maybe, but is that usually town?

    @Kryllian are you able to confirm how you were acted against last night?

    I'm also wondering what Future is doing - hasn't posted since being rezzed, can't be harmed, can be voted against. I wonder if its a weird stumpesque scenario.
    The CWE and Badger kills aso strike me as the work of someone who knows them.
  34. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    VoidKitten said:
    Oh. I am not yeeting Kryllian. That is a big ol hell no from me. Dude could claim to be scum today and I'd want to look elsehwere.
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    rock meets hard place said:
    y not?
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    Occam’s razor suggests that if he was blocked, the number of non-towns who acted makes it very unlikely that he’s one of them.

    Oh and that game event is giving me pause, but y’all have to give me 12 hours or so.
    Unvote:
  35. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    VoidKitten said:
    The Rajah originating mods tend to be slightly scum heavier. If it were my game, I'd do 6 if I had like a SK or murdery neutral. 7 if I didn't or there was decent killing power.
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    Without checking, it's typically 25-33% non town (so 6-8 in this game). And we've got our inactivity killer, whether its mod or player controlled I do not know.
    So I was either tracked or watched, which makes a nice change. But in a game this large, hopefully we've got a backup because losing our doc is not helpful.

    Resses after flips? Guess I can still be surpised at these games.
    Vote: future
  36. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

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  37. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    CWE said:
    JL2 begs to differ.
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    You can thank KneeNeighbour for that.
  38. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    rock meets hard place said:
    ngl, I think that winning Rajah games has more to do with a stacked town and an info laden write up than it has to do with no lynching d1 but no lynching d1 in a rolemadness is a fair strat I suppose
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    To be fair, some games have been like that, but our more prolific gamerunners have adapted. Jarrod's hidden alignments and resurrections, and Mazer's Focus Group character comes to mind. Designed to fuck with spreadsheeters.
  39. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    LemonDemonGirl said:
    I was reading the wrong thread fml
    Aaanyway, I say we get rid of the people with less posts.
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  40. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    @CRichardFoL
    @Kryllian
    @rock meets hard place

    Nice to meet you (I don't believe we've met). Why should I not vote to yeet you?
  41. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Dreyski said:
    Probably becuase it's not a one-shot?
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    After reading the rules properly, I'd like to retract my statement. Leading vote-getter gets got (or immunity, which would be an interesting wrinkle).
  42. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    FutureHold said:
    I think this is silly, sorry for my overreaction, but if you have such an ability, why use it d1, especially when most people here know how I act d1
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    Probably becuase it's not a one-shot?
  43. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    Badger said:
    Also want to hear some more from Tildey and Dreyski. The latter has at least voted but nothing from Tildey yet. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt (for now) in case she’s busy.

    Just hoping those with less than 5 posts with a vote and/or no votes are remembering the recommendation.
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    I bet you would. I got nothing yet, but there are some people I haven't played with before, so they're going to be null reads for a bit. No-one is screaming scummy, but I'm always a little sus of people self-restricting day one (hence my vote).
    AEW & red wine vying for my attention. And Mox is bleeding again.
  44. Dreyski

    Mafia 7: Everyone Loves Listo. Except the Devil.

    VoidKitten said:
    I had to fight with two salespeople today and a customer called me the most useless manager ever.

    How were your days today :D
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    There were four of us running a department with what felt like 400 patients, and no managment in sight. Tomorrow I have to see if people who've been waiting over a year can make an appointment with one day's notice :nono:
    Vote: Matthieu
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