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Tildey said:

I was so mad at myself for missing the end of D1. I got swamped with work but thought I still had time to chime in & vote because I forgot it wasn’t a Void game.

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I feel like I should be offended. Unsure why but it feels right.

Nightingale said:

I do feel bad about the @Tildey kill - forgive me =( I rolled a die...

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Clearly because Tildey…died

Matthieu said:

Imagine how awkward it'd be for scum if I actually did have a day kill, though.

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I knew you were Toothless and knew there were at least 3 sets of EN/ON roles. I doubted you could even have a kill.

Like, the only reason we were so confident is that night we controlled every action except Vals. That then told us who everyone else was so we could aim actions and prevent yall from acting.

Listo was the only wildcard with that kill and I didn't expect that. We tried to stop it with our super block, but it was apparently unstoppable.

rock meets hard place said:

oh right, though not sure why he'd hide behind town.

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Once we realized Jarrod was the hider, we used the mass redirect + strongman to ensure jarrod would hide behind our kill target. We then moved everyone else thinking it would throw confusion into the game. We didn't realize targets would show for both.

Twas a fun game! Thanks for hosting Mazer

I am still sad I didn't get to flip and blow everyone's minds.

Yeah that gambit was our last play. If that didn't work we were dead. When we used the mass orgy, we didn't realize the targets would then all show as going to BN. Which basically cop checked half the game.

MTR said:

Pretty sure Diva plans on bring cookies to the Rumble meetup.....

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I think both Diva and Future said they were bringing them. So double cookies.

MTR said:

They also have cookie bot vending machines and shakes.

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Welp. You had me at cookie bot vending machine.

MTR said:

They are really good. So good in fact Future goes in on his days off and spends his paycheck from there on cookies

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Ah. Consumerism of employees at its finest

I think MTR wins any cookie battle here, Listo.

Nightingale said:

If scum goes over today that means we start night with 3v4v1 -- and if scum waste the night phase killing the 3p they have no chance of winning. They would have to shoot town to even things back again I believe?

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Do you really want to risk that?

That gif is hypnotizing.

Nightingale said:

Dress in drag and do the hula?

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I would absolutely accept this too.

But really, you should do the thing.

How else am I going to cut my steak? I like a finely sharpened knife.

*looks up from casually sharpening a blade*

Huh? What?

I mean, I disagree with both? You see it in normal mafia games too. Look at the hapless townie who votes too early in a lylo situation they aren't aware of. Scum pounce and all vote to end the game.

Normally, it is used to end the game so there isn't an awkward phase, but meh.

Mazer said:

Nope Mr. Not Mod

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I would like to speak to a lawyer.

Mazer said:

I make mafia games. Not torture art porn

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Do not knock my style of game.

Mazer said:

Matt (4)-voidkitten, llettuce, mtr, night
mtr (1)-listo

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Isn't hammer 4 since there was no hammer yesterday, mr mod?

Listo95 said:

Vote: MTR

Because Listo can. Listo now waits for LDG and Night to vote Matt.

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Listo should break bad right at the end. Vote Matthieu.

What confuses me is if Listo could make the same threat why Listo didn't make the same thre....GODDAMNIT LISTO IS SO PURE.

Listo95 said:

Night should be thankful Listo is a benevolent person.

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I'd have shot the shit out of her.

I am so mad at Rock.

Welp. That's unfortunate. Only one thing to do to remedy this.

Vote: Matthieu

CRichardFoL said:

I also didn't know you guys ran Throne of Lies setup in FM format. Geez, I missed out.

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Also a work in progress. I have a decent set of rules for it now that I took from another community and edited further to make it more mafia esque and support more than 16 players.

CRichardFoL said:

This site seems new from what I can tell. So it takes time for these additions.

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Yeah, I just wanted a place that was our own so we could actually use things like ISO and enhanced search features that our respective sites didn't have since they weren't made for Mafia. Its a work in progress.

CRichardFoL said:

MU had the right idea with a clock to show time left before EoD.

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So, I used to have a timer i put in all my games for this exact reason. But these new sites that use AJAX cause the gif not to be refreshed on page load and i need to figure that out one day. Then the timer can be used again.

Also working on a modbot in spare time at least for timings and votecounts. Nothing fully automated for games planned for awhile unless I get motivated.

CRichardFoL said:

So there's still time to break the tie.

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Being in ET, I can assure you it is currently 8:32pm ET.

CRichardFoL said:

Oh so was this before Night tied on me?

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No. 8:11PM ET (so like 15 min ago) was deadline and votes have to be timestamped before 8:11pm. Anything before then is legit.

CRichardFoL said:

If you want the tie broken, you could start with yourself by voting Psycho.

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Day ended already. Vote swaps do nothing now.

Dreyski said:

But they can only win if players don't post or vote?
Or are they a survivor role?

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This is the gamble.

CRichardFoL said:

They certainly aren't winning if scum aren't dying.

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That wholly depends on what the role actually is.

CRichardFoL said:

They're probably a neutral killer where I'm at. So scum and JLaw will eventually betray each other.

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Anything is possible, but what are the alternatives, really?

The cat gifs are fucking phenomenal. I am wheezing.

CRichardFoL said:

I mean if I'm right on JLaw, they can't win with you guys.

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JLaw winning with town or scum is a gamble yeah.

Listo95 said:

No. Listo has ethics and believes in the good of the world.

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Got a good deed for us for the road?

CRichardFoL said:

Yet Psycho is obvious scum. You should vote them instead if you're town.

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Idk. Psycho threatened JLaw. I don't want to be on the receiving end of that.

CRichardFoL said:

Or you can switch to Psycho.

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But you've been the person I wanted to vote all game pretty much.

CRichardFoL said:

Claws if you're town, this is the time to break the tie and vote Psycho. Yes I think you're scum, though this is your chance to prove me wrong.

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Only 10 more minutes until you no longer can keep your eye on things in the thread it seems.

Claws said:

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Okay this is now the best one of the bunch.

Matthieu said:

That reminds me, it's only a little over a month until Halloween and spooky stories!

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When are you gonna run a Halloween game and regale the game with your stories and spooky scenarios?

Matthieu said:

I'm sure the others would be willing to tell some interesting stories about me after the game concludes.

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We all know you have the best stories.

Claws said:

I played with cr a couple times on mu

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Oh shit. Didn't know that. I am glad others are willing to venture here to play our games lol.

CRichardFoL said:

This is all news to me. I don't believe I've seen either of those names before until now.

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We are two forums that merged together to play Mafia. Rajah and MMO Champ.

MMO Champ was on MU for a few months until the incident. Rajah plays there only for champs.

I expect all of us outside Psycho, Xan, and Rock may are new to you :D

This timer until end of day is agonizing. Ngl.

Kryllian said:

Wait...Matthhieu is Grae from MMO champs? Crap....I thought I was playing with a new person so haven't been taking any past games into consideration...

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It's totally Grae.

Nor would the daykill be activated in thread in a no claim game

Matthieu said:

Oh, I didn't 'try'.

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I'd actually laugh, but i don't believe for a moment you held onto a daykill until D4. If you did, major props in self control. I'd have fired that shit so early.

CRichardFoL said:

Oh there we go.

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Me thinks he is trolling.

CRichardFoL said:

Ok what's the latest vote count? We need majority on Psychosoldier if you're town.

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6 - cRichard
7 - Psycho

1 Non Voter.

CRichardFoL said:

If JLaw is some kind of Neutral Killer role, they probably need the scum dead as much as town does.

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This is probably true.

Mazer said:

And eventually listo evolved them into men.

He sent then off to college on athletic scholarships. Eventually they reunited in Philadelphia

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I thought these were the eagles that Gandalf used to save the Hobbits and the Dwarves?

Not saying it wouldn't be necessary to remove her, but her posts and one post in particular makes me think she isn't scum.

I don't think she is scum.

Why is Blind Ninja's name different colors? I assume mistake.

rock meets hard place said:

Freudian slip? She's talking as if Richard is NOT part of the scum team.

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That is not a bad point. I can absolutely see LDG doing that as scum. Especially in a heated scenario.

Vote: CRichard

Round 2.

I still like CRichard as a vote. Though I did plan to try and ISO in a vaccuum today at some point.

LemonDemonGirl said:

Vote: Val
Dude

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Any reason?

Case in point.

rock meets hard place said:

void who would you kill between LDG, NG, Lettuce and Psycho?

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Of that list? Psycho for being alive without being targeted much and Lettuce for not really seeming that invested. Lettuce typically is more comfortable as town and typically would attempt solve more than she is. LDG will go either way. She typically ends up randing town moreso than scum. Doesn't actually mean anything, but she hasn't felt much different this game. NG I have an inkling on who she is.

Claws said:

untrue i usually will ping ppl that dont vote to vote

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I waited until everyone voted Claws.

If we are saying 9 town, 5 scum, 1 3p we can afford one more misyeet before it is lylo, depending on how much killing power at night and on the actual scum wincon.

Claws said:

idk if it was because of rocks hubris takes but 10hours is alot of time wasted

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Lmao. Claws, you are always begging to hammer early in games. And will do so the minute someone gives you the okay if you're around. Stop trying to make me look worse than it really was.

rock meets hard place said:

maybe not but I still don't really see how a hammer with so much daylight left was all that pro-town.

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I never claimed it to be pro-town. I have done it as town because I'm impatient and as scum with an agenda.

Psycho666Soldier pointed Listo, Matthieu, Dreyski, Jarrod, and Rock at BN looking at the rest of the actions unless everyone decided to just choose BN. Lmao at the flavor.

Listo did something to BN, but also has Psycho in it?
Iron Bull roleblocked BN
Jackie Daytona hid behind BN
Claws doctored? BN.
Robot Devil did something to Jarrod. Couldn't have been an RB
Illusive Man bus drive Val and Kryllian
Flemeth rolecopped JLaw?
Mom did something to Rock
CMT killed BN and Jarrod who hid behind.

If everyone was pointed at BN like it looks like, that would mean Claws, Iron Bull, Listo, and CMT are in Listo, Matthieu, Dreyski, and Rock?

I waited until everyone voted to avoid a vig. It was going to end up being Grumpy. No one was going to actually CFD.

That being said last night was abysmal.

Really?

Unvote:

Vote: GrumpyCat

Incoming feigned anger in 3...2...1...

Everyone voted. I want to hit hammer. Yeah, we have like 10 hours left, but eh.

Vote: GrumpyCat

VoidKitten said:

Which is why I am not advocating your death for 1v1 LDG

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I totally just had some tinfoil about this and now I can't think of anything else -.-

CRichardFoL said:

I'm an exception to being auto scum for trying to 1v1 LDG? That's news to me.
I'm also new to this site.

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Which is why I am not advocating your death for 1v1 LDG

Kryllian would get the same pass. Rock too maybe. I know LDG took a break from games so not sure if he played with her before.

Anyone normally threatening to 1v1 LDG is automatically scum because she is the most low hanging of fruit.

But CRich doesn't know her so I won't pass judgement on that.

I don't like the idea of demanding a 1v1, just like Grumpy suggested a Thunderdome. It almost tries to frame the day around specific events.

CRichardFoL said:

Do you think I care? I have nothing to lose and you aren't my dad.

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This post made me actually lol.

Matthieu said:

The write-up stated that Kryllian was attacked by Iron Bull for 'devastating damage'. I read that as an attack from a vigilante or some other town aligned role and convinced myself that it meant that Kryllian was likely to be a serial killer or scum godfather who had a bullet proof vest.

I now know that I was mistaken in that belief, though as I have stated many times I did not come to the conclusion that I did based solely off of the write-up.

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I believe this. As much as I don't want to because you have been in multiple games like this and BPVs almost always are called out in the writeup. I can see the logic flow and can see Matthieu jumping on this.

So scummy, but probably just town.

Pretty sure all of the LDG stuff is NAI.

She will threaten to self vote and self vote when people call her scum. It's to be expected.

She will do this as town and scum.

Vote Count:

Void (3) - BN, val, Listo
Grump (6) - psych, claws, Dreyski, Nightingale, Matthieu, Lettuce
Matt (3) -grump, Jarrod, CRichard
CRichard (2) - Void, LDG
Nightingale (2) - Rock, Kryllian

Non-Voters: MTR

Hammer is 9

I believe this is correct.

@Kryllian FYI, if you put [.post][./post] (no period) around the post number (no #) it will hyperlink the post in the thread.

1476

That puts us at L-3 with just under 24 hours remaining.

I did apparently.

Vote Count:

Void (3) - BN, val, LDG
Grump (6) - psych, claws, Dreyski. Nightingale, Matthieu, CRich
Matt (2) -grump, Jarrod
CRichard (1) - VK
Nightingale (2) - Rock, Kryllian

Hammer is 9

Did I miss a rock vote?

Vote Count:

Void (3) - BN, val, LDG
Grump (5) - psych, claws, Dreyski. Nightingale, Matthieu
Matt (2) -grump, Jarrod
CRichard (1) - VK
Nightingale (2) - CRich. Kryllian

Hammer is 9

Nightingale said:

I didn't demand anything? I asked who he would consider replacing those people with.

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Asking a question, then quoting it again and pinging him to answer the question, is basically demanding an answer.

Not that I am saying this is not anything you'd do, but I don't think I've ever seen you ask someone a PoE then tell them to remove 3 people and give a new PoE. Why even ask them their PoE if you are going to inject your own?

I don't understand how you can ask someone for their PoE and then demand they replace people you disagree with :D

Nightingale said:

That's my point though? What does he have to gain from doing that as scum? I mean, I've seen Matthieu do some crazy shit - but usually when he is under more pressure than that. So to me it seems more likely he's town and just... confused?

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Either that or pulling a play like he likes to do.

What even is this game?

Nightingale said:

me, he's offering himself in exchange for me.... which, that I actually kinda town read. He's wrong about me, but the willingness to put his own neck on the line for it - I don't think that comes from scum who know they'll be proven wrong

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This is assuming he actually thought anyone would take him up on it.

CRichardFoL said:

Beats me. Reading songs to figure out night actions isn't exactly my area of expertise.

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I think the song may just be flavor. If there were a bunch of red names on lines with green, id say its worth it. But that looks not the same.

The stuff before it has flavor based on the actions.

Dreyski said:

on the second part, what's the point of a "block" if actions can bypass/precede it?

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So, in my games, the ressurections, wishes, mass roleblocks, etc were all unblockable. They just worked. But these are few and far between.

I've also had some abilities work instantly and not during night so it just happened (usually my swap abilities)

Kryllian said:

7 seems unlikely for balance. 6 is probably even a push.

With the reducing majority count if we don't come to a consensus each day it would be too easy for scum to block a majority vote for two days and have enough votes to not have enough to control day lynches and win by D3/4

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I do not see a world lower than 6. These games are typically more scum heavy than normal balance due to writeups.

rock meets hard place said:

why is 7 unlikely?

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7 would be the max imo. It's 6 or 7.

CRichardFoL said:

Oh yeah totally. No one will see it coming. /s

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You were supposed to put this in scum chat.

What am I missing with Nightingale? It really feels like both of you are OMGUS simultaneously.

EBWOP: Order of actions in the writeup*

There is still definitely and order of actions to resolve.

rock meets hard place said:

Even if kyrll was roleblocked I don't think that 100% means he can't be scum. It assumes that all scum acted and were in the write up and scum can't have a passive role. Also I think there was a scum action b4 the "block"

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The order of actions typically does not matter, at least in my games. There are some abilities that go ahead of blocks, but those are typically the super strong ones.

If he was roleblocked, he is cleared from acting from 5 scum roles. There could be a 6th or yes there are some shenanigans. It is not a full clear, but if he was roleblocked he should not be considered until later.

We only thought about him with Matthieu's info claim that Dreyski is now counter claiming basically.

Mazer said:

I was being nice while I was traveling.

Now I'm one flight away from home and cranky.

Not counting anyone who doesn’t unvote. And I might just have the second vote completed cancel the first.

I've got layers.

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Travel anywhere fun?

Vote Count:

Void (2) - BN, val
Grump (3) - psych, claws, Dreyski
Kryll (3) - matt, jarrod, CRich
Matt (1) -grump
CRichard (1) - VK
Nightingale (1) - Rock

Hammer is 9

Should be right

CRichardFoL said:

Sure Rock can be scum from my perspective, yet the thread seems to be avoiding us like the plague.

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Pretty sure I pushed you and have been sitting on you most of today. Can't say we have ignored you.

I haven't gotten involved in your back in forth because Im interested where it is headed.