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Real sorry again for missing D1 completely, ty for letting me play for 8 hours I guess!

GG all

CRichardFoL said:

Who said the Robo wagon is a cop-out with an inactivity vig?

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Me, but I dont think VK is a wolf and I think wolves are pushing v!Robo and then just be like "Well we were playing to the rules of hammer"

Claws said:

Pfft you wish

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Gonna have to declaw you now

Claws said:

The audacity shame on you putting me in there

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Well now I know you're a wolf lmao

Fuck me the first 5 votes on Robo could legit make up my entire POE.

Its giving me shivers being on this wagon. Like its convincing me Robo flips green. But I dunno if it says anything about VKs alignment

Wait VK is voting VK?

Wait Robo is voting for Robo?

Unvote:

Vote: Robozerim

Like Im not happy about this but Id rather defend my TR on VK for now.

Hello Kryllian, have you managed to read today?

Whens EOD? 26 minutes? And has anyone a VC to hand?

Honestly GrumpyCat is absolutely howling right now

GrumpyCat said:

It is a minority yeet, you thinking wont help.

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You understand its still a game of mafia right?

Although Id prefer it if VK was here posting

GrumpyCat said:

Then you are either scum or dont get the rules.

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Well no I think you're scum and I dont think Vk is

PsychoSoldier said:

I mean when has that not been LDG's MO as either alignment? I could be wrong but I feel like she tends to be a bit more timid when scum and not have emotional snapvotes like that.

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Eh maybe. I dont think Ive played enough games with her recently, just the anger itself felt like she wanted to bluster her way out the situation. I guess the best I can think is last time she was a wolf we pushed she just kinda went "Woe is me everyone hates me."

PsychoSoldier said:

I'm curious about this discrepancy here. You seemed on the side of VK being more towny but here seems to want pushes on him? Do you just prefer him over Robo?

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I think forcing people onto those two wagons is more AI than shrug yeeting Robo. Like I feel even if he is red his team are like "Well we can bus the AFK guy"

GrumpyCat said:

Ok vote VK and I will do too.

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Well Ill be honest Id rather keep my vote on you :D

I just dont think Robo is great wagon choice.

PsychoSoldier said:

Honestly the way LDG just went barreling into Xan feels kinda towny to me

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You think? It was mostly that she felt too annoyed by my content.

Im honestly not sure Im convinced by pushing Robo for being AFK. Id much rather see pushes on GC or VK

Foxxi last time I saw VK wolf against you you caught him D1, has his wolf game improved that much since then?

Blind Ninja said:

Didnt like VK d1... and theyve done little to change my mood today.

Foxxi died by my hands in a recent game, so willing to give a 2-3 phase pass, but still havent seen scum foxxi

Psycho feels better then VK imo

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What was it you didnt like about VK?

PsychoSoldier said:

Slowly catching up and I guess maybe Xan could have been trying to dump a bunch of thoughts to seem towny, but honestly I felt like the net of his reads were too wide for a first appearance scum rand.

Maybe you explain it later but what's your read on me @Xanjori? You had me kind of low in your list but didn't give any reasoning.

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I had you middle-ish for some mind melding but Id been thinking about your vote and Im trying to think of the best reasoning behind it. Maybe you wanna explain yourself why you went for the very late vote?

Nightingale said:

Honestly the seeming lack of trying to save future is really fucking with my head. I even gave the scum team the perfect opportunity/excuse to try by suggesting we train up all four people to see what happened, but literally no one took me up on that idea

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On day 1? And tbf competing with a wagon that already has 5 votes is a lot of effort, especially if he then flips its so outing

Nightingale said:

I can see LDG's posts reading as scummy - but her behavior doesn't really make me think she's scum? Her vote for xan when pretty much everyone else is moving away from him doesn't feel agenda driven to me... and if she were partnered with future, why would she have responded to his post about voting inactives by unvoting BN and then not actually putting a vote somewhere that might have helped save future?

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Its more her fixation with the low posters, Ive not really seen it as a thing and she seems to mostly get riled up when shes scum.

Matt if we have an activity vig why are you so concerned about yeeting people that are low posting? Has Robo posted something that you found suspicious?

Vibing with Psychos latest posts, I think theyre a more fleshed out version of my own reads. Was hoping he'd get to my AI posts and offer a view tho

rock meets hard place said:

for void I'm sheeping Jarrod, don't really like the d2 MTR wagon and then a secret secret reason

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Honestly I think there is good cause to believe MTR is a wolf as well, but Jarrods push is in good faith from my interpretation, I just think he is on the wrong target.

rock meets hard place said:

but also there are more than 3 scum and thats even assuming that those reads are correct so I'd like to see you expand your scum reads.

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Sure, obviously Ive still got nearly half the PL to offer a read on, but hopefully I can do that soon enough.

LemonDemonGirl said:

"U-um no, you're Scum"
Really? That's your best respose?

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Well no if you look at my posts I said you felt scummy before you voted me. Your reaction to me voting and giving my thoughts hasnt changed that opinion. Did you look at the reads I gave? The other people I wanted to look at?

But to move on from that, explain to me why you're interested in wagoning Nightingale and VoidKitten?

rock meets hard place said:

A guy has zero posts. The simplest solution is not that you were just inactive? and I should have assumed you were scum lurking it out?

I'll remember that for next time.

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Sure like I said I maybe over-read it, and right now I think GC, Matt and LDG are worth more attention

If I had a team that told me to post, how did it take me 3 days to arrive?

Yeah I wont lie, I really do think LDG is just a wolf lol

Actually yeah I completely forgot to include that, but I'd put Matt down in the lower end of the reads list

rock meets hard place said:

oh right. how so?

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When people brought up that I was absent you wrote "I think OC just says he's not around as opposed to scum just lurking it out."

Maybe Im reading too much into that, was just a worry on my read through.

I guess Im more worried about Matt pushing for a vote on me, we've played together long enough for him to know Id never just entirely skip a day. I think I have a tendency to post lower as a wolf but I never go MIA.

Jarrods posting day 2 has felt decent as well, like he hasnt come in overly worried about thread position but is instead just come in and solving. I'd put him almost instantly into TL's

rock meets hard place said:

also, why were you scumreading me d1 if the post you said that you didn't like was from day 2? or if those are just composite reads then why did you label them d1 reads?

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I did state there was a worry you had TMI'd me as town on Day 1.

rock meets hard place said:

Xan, is there any specific reason that not everyone was on that list?

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The others didnt stick out enough when reading the day I guess

VoidKitten said:

Psycho, I can see the thoughts. I don't see scum Psycho throwing that vote out there at the end to bring questions on him. It wouldn't provide cred.

Overall, I don't hate most of the the future train at all. Val would be who I'd pick if we had to choose someone from the train.

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And posts like this make me feel confident about VK town. Like it accurately mirrors my own thoughts and unless Im derping hard then yeah VK is just town and pushing the right angles

GrumpyCat said:

One scum in the focus group was already discovered. Others are clear. Its a law.

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Also just to respond to this because it was looked into

in 47% of games there was exactly one scum in the 4.
in 20% of games there were two scum.

I forgot the stats after that.

TLDR

(Yes I know its not everyone, and two are now dead, but whatever)

Day 1 reads
Town
Crich
Void
Foxxi
Val
CWE
Badger

Psycho
Claws


Rock
LDG
GC

Oh yeah I think Void is kinda towny for being quite relaxed, admittedly its actually years since he was a wolf but last time I remember Foxxi absolutely buried him day 1. So for now he is going in the town pile

If Im wrong on GC btw Id defo put Foxxi under some examination, but I cannot deny I mindmelded with a decent chunk of her posts.

Matthieu said:

Why Robo and not Xanjori, though?

I pointed out back on D1 that Xanjori hadn't shown up yet and although they're both quiet Robo has 3 posts and Xanjori has 1. Jarrod was given a free pass on D1 for not showing up as well, I believe?


Vote: Xanjori

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I mean I didnt show up because I didnt realise the game had started, I should fix so I get email notifications, I expected a discord ping.

Gonna open up with a

Vote: GrumpyCat

Because once Future picked up his 4 votes it felt Grumpy really wanted to try get another wagon going (in this case sleep.)

At first I was worried over Nightingale because it felt she was looking at other avenues than FH but the fact shes also pushing GC a fair bit makes me think shes also town for now.

CRichard Ive got down as a TR, he is finding his way in a game with new players, asking questions and prodding.

Rock Im unsure on, he was being very Rock like in his aggressive pushes but I got worried that in one post he TMI'd me as town. Also his listed preferences in p#702 just seems a very wolf sided list.

I nearly wrote "Badger Ive got listed as town" but I guess that one is cheating.

Val Ive got as town.

LDG actually feels a bit wolfy, her suggestion of going after the LHF struck me as particularly wolfy.

Matt actually broke his day 1 sleep voting to try and vote me, honestly not sure what to make of that. If he is a partner of FH pushing sleep may have been the better option, at the same time he did end up back there so maybe I am just SRing him correctly.

Also I dont have any notes on MTR but it wouldnt surprise me if he did flip red after FHs first post on him

And there you go, thats my catch up

FML I completely missed this game started, I am very sorry. Off to bed right now but will be back tomorrow and uh, read the entire thread I guess