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  1. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I have gone back and forth on doc or role block from different write ups. I have leaned role block but I can see it being a doc
  2. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Well Dragoon blocked me one night and it was not last night so yeah I am clear.
  3. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Well I would say whoever Panzer Dragoon is knows who Miyamoto is. They seem to be the town roleblock and got it right last night to prevent red from getting a kill off.
  4. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    At this point I don't really have anything else to add either and won't be around. I am going to do another throw away vote and let LDG hammer so we all have votes in. Catch you all on the flip side.

    Vote: Drey
  5. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    There is absolutely a wolf between wind and Tildey. Which one do you think it is?
    I feel Tildey is town and if I had to pick between the two it would be Windward.

    Tildey is more of a read and Windward more on just looking at things
  6. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I am going to be defending myself this day phase and probably getting frustrated the whole time. My reads have been way off this whole game which is also frustrating. So going to try to sit back a little and read things over again with maybe fresh eyes. I am not the way to go. I don't have anyone that I can try to point this moment though. I also don't think Tildey is the way to go but that is a meta read and well my reads have been bad this whole game. I only had Ninja and Future pegged pretty much at the same time as everyone else but was wrong on others. So ugh.
  7. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    @Tildey @MTR - now that BN/future are both confirmed red, what do you make of matthieu's insistence that badger was purple, his focus on purple as a threat, and his vote on grumpy instead of future; the person badger actually asked people to vote for initially?
    Well I can see that Badger targeted Mazer the night he died which would explain why he thought Badger was the way to go. I feel this goes to help clear Windward. But you do have a interesting observation with the vote thing there.
  8. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I want to make sure people get votes in and I need to vote. I am about to leave work and not sure I will get on again before eod. Don't want to hammer if people have not voted so throwaway vote.

    Vote: Val
  9. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Not sure what is going on with that first post I qouted and responded to
  10. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    MTR has gained my suspicion:
    1) he also didn't want to yeet the same wolf BN didn't
    2) he claimed he couldn't vote D2 but there was never any proof of that
    3) his read of Tildey feels like TMI to me
    4) generally in my experience players who feel like they are taunting checks are invest immune scum.

    And then there's the fact that from my PoV, Drey, Val, LDG, and Badger are all lock town. And Jarrod is the known 3p neutral.

    That only leaves BN, MTR, Tildey, and You.

    And I am like 97% positive Tildey is town.
    I have explained how I am hesitant to vote claws in general because I am bad about tunneling on him as scum and hate to misyeet him. I thought he was town and was wrong but also thought Drey was town and would have voted Drey only because I was worried about tunneling on claws.

    Didn't realize I needed to prove I couldn't vote. Will keep that in mind for future games.

    And I have called for checks on me in the past when I am town and also scum with invest immune. Sometimes when I am frustrated at trying to defend myself from a misyeet which I am frustrated right now I will tell people to check me out.
  11. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Plus doesn't make s
    I also don't love that when I asked MTR who he thinks the wolves are, his answer was two of what are generally considered LHF that I fully read as town and has no opinion on matthieu/wind.
    I have already posted thoughts about Matthieu/Windward and the claimed info. I thinks Badger is town and threw out thoughts about maybe info was misread or something screwy happened with info. At the end of the day I am not sure what to exactly think since I like Badger as town.
  12. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Who do you think the wolves are?
    Beyond Ninja not sure. I am starting to wonder if Val or LDG is flying under the radar.

    There is a chance you could be one and just controling the narrative since lot of us are following you but I don't think that is the case.
  13. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    If you yeet me make sure you at least check out the train to help find the scum since they will take advantage to get a misyeet.
  14. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I am not sure what to think about Matthieu/Windward at this point and time. I tend to think that he was looking at info wrong since I am with Foxxi and think Badger is town.

    Ninja is the way to go and will vote that way just making sure we don't hammer early.

    You guys can check me out all you want and that is fair but I am not scum this game.

    I pretty sure Tildey is town as well since she has been questioned somewhat.
  15. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Maybe. But his will had no player targets, so if he was supposed to be searching for someone all he searched for was a bottle of tequila it seems XD
    Yeah I was confused on why no target on night 1 if was a searcher and possibly looking for someone specific
  16. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Going to keep going here though. So didn't expect to see Insaner go last night. Interesting to see two vanilla town on the flips of him and PG.

    I was going to jump back on and talk more after work yesterday before bed thinking we were not close to a hammer when you guys took out Future. That was a little frustrating since I didn't get a chance to vote. Glad we got scum but still.

    So I am still not seeing Badger as scum from that move to Grumpy after BN was saved. But Mattieu is saying he saw him kill Mazer. Assuming Matthieu is town I wonder if there was some misdirect or something. Just seems like there was that lightning rod type affect we we have seem people target more than one person in their wills so lots of things going on and that could cause info to be wrong.
  17. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Wait did he seriously just like quit.

    I mean I have gotten frustrated at times but I don't think anyone took the fun out of last game.
  18. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    In fact... thinking back on it, MTR said he'd lost his vote D2 - but iirc he never actually tried to vote to *show* that. And we KNOW jarrod's lightning rod pulled in an *actual* vote thief abilty, which got copied onto badger because badger's ability used on jarrod caused him to get a copy of everything that hit jarrod.

    And no one had any issues voting yesterday. I expect no one will today either.

    I am strongly suspecting that was actually a one shot ability and MTR lied about his lack of vote D2 because it was a convenient excuse not to have to vote claws - and then once someone else was actually affected by it, it would lend credibility to what he'd said.

    Poe: matthieu/BN/MTR
    You are not wrong about me being town. I am town. I did not lie about not being able to vote on D2. I guess I could have voted to prove I couldn't vote like others did on D3 but just didn't cross my mind to prove it and no one asked me to prove it.

    I did notice that no one said they had their vote stolen last phase. So not sure what is going on with that ability since we saw it two days in a row. I was confused about how two people were hit with it on D3 but you started talking lightning rod which made sense.
  19. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    As of right now nothing indicates that they have a kill or tried to kill anyone and was blocked or anything. Granted I am struggling with the writeups but to me seems like purple may not be a threat and willing to focus on getting red until we are for sure otherwise.
  20. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I will agree with that little she has posted thanks to work and me getting her sick that Tildey is giving me town vibes. She has not played a lot of town but this seems like what little town I have seen her play.

    I like the reads/mechanics of the other town core.

    I just haven't played quite enough games with Insaner to get a good read.

    Peter seems to be Peter but he doesn't seem to play any differently during his alignment.

    I need to go back and do some more reading though to try to get thoughts on the others
  21. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Was Mazer a mistake as well?
    Well since BN is still alive we don't know if his info was a mistake or not.

    I feel that it was not a scum Badger move.
  22. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    In absolutely zero worlds does Badger pull a stunt like that as scum. He believed what he said. It's not badger's style to fake he has info like that as scum.
    I agree. I don't think Badger is scum. I think it was just a mistake
  23. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I was not expecting to really check in again before end of day until I realized I got tagged and there was a game event. So guess I will go grumpy and hope for the best

    Vote: Grumpy
  24. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I didn't when I didn't vote last phase
  25. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    So work is kicking my ass so want to make sure I get the vote in and try to come back if I can though.

    Vote: Blind Ninja
  26. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Hold on a cotton-picking minute….didn’t you say your vote was stolen?
    Yesterday. But I was the only one that had a vote stolen or at least the only one to say that and we have to people with stolen votes this phase. So makes me curious if someone is not telling the truth or if the vote thief can do more than one or if there is more than one vote thief, etc.
  27. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Who all can't vote today? Badger, Jarrod, and mtr?
    I can vote. I was not able to vote last phase
  28. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Do you have no thoughts or opinions on any of the people who worked against yeeting claws yesterday? You say you don't have bad vibes from anyone, does that mean you think there were no scum trying to prevent his elimination?
    I am sure there were scum on both people to try to split up their votes while trying to save him. I would say though typically when I have been scum other scum tend to be careful defending a scum partner and doing more deflecting. So I will go back and read more from that phase and see what I can pick up. I have been a little more focused reading through this phase right now.
  29. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    This was in response to the Future post that set people's alarms off but this seems more damning to me...and I was looking for townie MTR stuff. Ended up thinking about the 'adult pinewood derby' :wtf:
    I guess I can see that but that was me being more frustrated at Future for that post when it didn't seem to be needed.

    When we go to night phase again I will post a link to the facebook page for the derby for people to check it out.
  30. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    How do you feel about the people who worked against claws yeet? What do you think of Mazer's info? You don't have to go sherlock holmes on players, but I would like your feelings on what people have said and done please.
    Yeah I was circling back to the Mazer info and that discussion right now. I was a little surprised that there wasn't more discussion on it at the time. At this point I am probably going to be more trusting of people since I am not getting in straight up bad vibes from people. So I may lean with Mazer on this one and vote BN in a bit. But with these writeups so hard to just take some stuff at face value I guess but I don't have any strong vibes at this point.

    I am trying to squeeze in some thoughts as I go back and read things again.
  31. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Sorry for not circling back with reads yesterday. I did more reading and nothing sticking out to me like a sore thumb or anything as far as reads go. I know I know I suck but I am terrible at reads.
  32. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Misread what you said. Just once.
    Okay cool. Just trying to wrap my head around some of the known information.

    Going to be circling back and trying to get some reads
  33. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    My vote has been stolen as well. Hopefully scum doesn't have a stock pile of stolen votes to use this phase.
    So two stolen votes this phase. Did someone else have their vote stolen last phase when I had mine stolen?
  34. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    WTF is a Town Searcher?
    Yeah I am wondering the same thing
  35. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    All that being said I am probably going to go back to resting for a while so I can get shit down around the house I need to and also to drop back in here hopefully before the day is done with a more clear brain
  36. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Okay. I have read through things but brain only half functioning things to whatever it is I got. I blame Diva this time around. Pretty sure they gave it to me.

    So I tend to tunnel on claws a scum and when I don't and get convinced he is town he turns out to be scum.

    I don't really like either choice and if Void picked them then he thought one or both of them were scum but that doesn't mean he was correct. Then again he could be correct on both of them. Time will tell.

    If I had a vote I would probably go dreyski for no other reason is that I am always second guessing myself on claws and honestly I kind of leaning both being town as a gut reaction right now.
  37. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    These past 2 days of worked suck. Anyways getting caught up now. If Claws can explain to me why I shouldn’t vote him using the highest quality gifs that would be appreciated.
    He has been doing things to keep himself alive. Why ask for more?
  38. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I earlier had a thought that if we weren't restricted to voting between Dreysko and Claws today, I'd want to prod MTR because of him admitting to not trying to get reads on people. I understand that there are people who don't like to focus on reading people based kn their posts and would rather solve the game via spreadsheeting and action analysis, but it is still something that I associate with scum play as a baseline.

    When reading through Void's ISO to find an answer to Grumpy's post, I noticed that VoidKitten was voicing suspicion of MTR on D1. Could be part of the reason why Void was killed?
    I don't try to get reads on people off d1. So many people me included just shit post or only half serious post day 1. I am also terrible at reads so I would rather try to get reads later on. I only sometime spread sheet.

    I got my vote stolen so while that doesn't clear me because I am not sure what action in the write up indicates that if any. Just wanted to throw that out there as I am reading through things.
  39. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Okay bear with me. I have been sick for the last couple days. So just now reading and catching up. I will try to post thoughts and respond to stuff as I go.
  40. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Everyone is town and everyone is sus to me at the same time on day one. Really got no reads and not trying to really get any honestly. I will circle back to some of this stuff as the game goes but so many people just shit post or whatever on day one especially when we vote sleep.

    For now just going to log off and get ready to meet at bar to discuss putting on an adult pinewood derby in a few months.
  41. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I feel this in my soul. I had 20/10 vision and have now been wearing glasses and need a new prescription.
    I had to go to progressive lenses a few years ago. If I am wearing my contacts I can just do readers which does not help me not feel old.
  42. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I hope so or you are blind.
    Well my eyes are pretty bad. Getting old sucks
  43. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Likely story...
    I see what you did there.

    Or did I?
  44. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    It's a snap feeling. MTR is normally agreeable, but when people agree with me and say things I was saying, it always makes me look
    Just timing that we are on around the same time saying the same thing. lol
  45. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Demanding people give huge amount of opinions... Look who I asked. The 2 people that skate by and either forget they are playing or actively ignore the tread. If someone doesnt try to get them to be active, chances are they wont be.

    And of course I have opinions on things, I just dislike Mazer's dumbass persona he is pulling more then commenting one way or the other of his "Biggest interactions of the day"
    I get what you are saying with who you asked but still asking anyone even them for any real opinions on day one stuff is meh like Void said. Pester people after day 1
  46. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I'm certain that at one point Void said to me that he considers voting sleep to allow more time to solve the game via spread sheets to be a boring way to play mafia

    Makes ya think
    Maybe after day 1 but most of us from Rajah tend to vote sleep day one and wait for info from the night actions. After that people tend to yell at anyone trying to vote sleep
  47. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    But he specifically stated this would be his will system, so I expect that is the major spreadsheet fuckery.

    I still think there are characters we probably haven't seen yet, but I didn't read or note all the flavor stuff.
    Yeah the will system is the main thing that will slow down spreadsheeting until we get later into the game and get some flips and targets.
  48. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    2 of the House still checking things out. Watching everyone else choose their street fighter characters, and hoping they can land a good one without looking like they were selfish.

    If you're not careful, you'll wind up with Dhlasim.
    Oh when it comes to something like that I don't wait around. :) I want the good fighter
  49. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Getting my vote in just in case I get busy. Not seeing a solid reason to take anyone out at this point.

    Vote: sleep
  50. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Unvote: Sleep
    Vote: Futurehold

    Are people just going after Void based off of what happened in the previous game?
    Probably

    Why Future. I know he is scummy and all but honestly I am not ready to actually vote him yet.
  51. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Im almost at 20 years of world of warcraft =/ its 19 this year
    I have never played World of Warcraft. Considered it but never played.
  52. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I am so lost on some of this talk. I am not a gamer. I pretty much stopped playing on a regular basis after the game cube except for the short time I had a Wii.
  53. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    But are you the Walrus?
    younger GIF by TV Land
  54. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Yeah my mind was a little blown when I saw Mario and Sonic in the same game
  55. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I had one of those like one piece Atari's in the house that had the to round circles to control the things on pong. But honestly grew up on the NES and then SNES. I always wanted a Sega Genesis.
  56. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    what scum buddies?
    I don't who they are. If I did it would make it easier to take them out.
  57. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Ask your scum buddies what to talk about.
  58. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    VK has it coming. But taking him out D1 is to easy. not satisfactory enough.
    Agreed.
  59. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    So in your eyes, future is just scummy... no matter his or your alignment?
    Yup. Always scummy. Kind of like some of you guys always think I am scummy.
  60. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I am actually totally town this game for once. :D
    Likely story
  61. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Here let me sum it up for you:
    "Day One Matters!!"
    "All Days Matter!"
    "You all disgust me, this is all just cries for attention and views"
    *Everyone goes home and nothing perceptible happens*
    That is about right
  62. MTR

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Vote: VK

    MTR votes seems to be biting me in the ass so I’ll target the person who broke our bond.
    Because you are scummy when you vote me and scummy when you don't lets be honest.
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