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Mazer said:

I need to commission someone to render a visual image for Violina. She's like a magical and dark (but not necessarily evil) Lindsay Stirling.

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Paging @Kumquat and @Nightingale

I think I am more invested in the storyline of these games than I should be.

Listo95 said:

ROBO-LISTO ONLINE
MONSIEUR LISTO STATUS UNKNOWN
OBJECTIVE: FIND AND RETRIEVE MONSIEUR LISTO

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Listo will be a SK next game. Confirmed.

Blind Ninja said:

Both actions that ended the game... what were they?

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The kill on Listo was because he voted on LDG or I. We had 3x kills and could turn one into a daykill on anyone who voted on either of us during that day phase.

Also, @Jarrod1983 did you purposely breadcrumb who you were to me by saying you liked me and then doccing me? Because thats what made me place you as Virgil.

rock meets hard place said:

Whelp back to ignoring this site

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You still need to mod a game so you can't ignore us forever.

And why not me?

Who the fuck did Xanjori talk to if he was a neighborizor? Obviously Foxxi, but who else?

FutureHold said:

I had a commute, I would’ve forced you to pick Rock anyways

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Lmao. You could have just fucked off for the day?

Lora said:

im cop pls no lynch

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You should just be allowed to say it regardless if you are cop. Its the definition of NAI.

FutureHold said:

I’ll claim to be scum next game

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You are so fucking suspicious it hurts. It hurts so bad.

I was going to suggest Rock or you for the next yeet. Preferred Rock, but would have accepted you because part of me was just wondering if it could be you still.

And he didn't take my bait in trying to get him to vote on me or LDG. I tried -.-

Good game all. Thank you to LDG for talking to be about Pico and helping me realize that both you and I were LDG so Xan could possibly be a second Pico.

Rock had a great game. Spreadsheets ultimately made eyes look at him. Without them, I think he would have been much harder to find.

Lora said:

i am but a humble god delivering town to victory.

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How do you keep actually getting cop?

Listo95 said:

Vote: LDG

She totally is scum and will kill all of you. Did none of you read the lore for them!?

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I laughed. I like laughing. You know what?

Unvote:

Vote: Rock

Blind Ninja said:

I still think its too early to put it at L-1. Would like to give Xan a chance to weigh in

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Again, not trying to be obstinate, but Listo basically claimed scum.

Either of my scenarios will get the final scum.

It's over.

If BN is a player or mechanic, most of them have early hammer things in them where they don't work if day ends to early, for fairness, so that shouldn't hurt us tonight I don't think.

I would be okay with an early hammer as long as all of you promise me that if I die you kill Rock, Future, and Jarrod next UNLESS Listo does not flip as Robot Devil. Then Rock, Future, and BN.

Blind Ninja said:

Whats the count? L-2 on listo right now?

We have anyone else that needs to weigh in on the day?

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I believe Xan hasn't posted yet.

Everyone else has? I think?

Blind Ninja said:

Whats the count? L-2 on listo right now?

We have anyone else that needs to weigh in on the day?

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Yeah.

Me, Future, and Rock are on Listo now.

Monsieur Listo is actually using Hell metaphorically and he is just a poor overworked retail worker being shit on by the general populace.

No wonder he is so evil.

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo will once again state. Retail. Xmas. Sick.

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How could you handle retail from He....OHHHHHHH. Retail IS Hell. Yes yes.

Now your character has so much more depth.

Blind Ninja said:

Still, what have you done to help town this game?

the only thing i can truly recall from you is
"Free me from hell"
"Im busy"
"Ill get to that after work, if im not asleep"

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He's clearly trolling now.

LemonDemonGirl said:

Uh, I'm not LDG

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Lmao. Stop trolling.

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo no longer believes in voting. The right should be taken from all and only the elite and powerful should get a say in the world.

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But aren't you one of the elite Monsieur? Are you going to let us peasants get a say?

Exercise your right!

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo no longer believes in voting. The right should be taken from all and only the elite and powerful should get a say in the world.

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Okay. Sorry Future. I like this post more.

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo is innocent I tell you innocent! Monsieur Listo never asked to be taken captive!!

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And who is the good Monsieur going to vote on?

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo is innocent I tell you innocent! Monsieur Listo never asked to be taken captive!!

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If you ask to be taken captive, aren't you just a guest now?

Listo95 said:

All Monsieur Listo wants is to be freed from this infernal place!!!

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You will be freed all right.

Man. This day needs more spice. Should we CFD to LDG? Me? No wait. XAN!

Listo95 said:

Monsieur Listo is an upstanding citizen! I would never try to ruin the world! Only the town I live in. But I have been trapped down here for so very long and the urge to kill all is rising.

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Oh dear. Is Monsieur learning how to become a SK from RD?

rock meets hard place said:

I was just about to say wait no, I think BN said that bc lora was a cop and he just forgot the other result. Future is still scum though

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He might be. But you might be. I might be. LDG might be. Hell, BN might be?!?!

rock meets hard place said:

Bc I future is scum and I'm tunneled and apparently dumb since for some reason it didn't click that. Listo was a gulity

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To make it clearer. Listo doesn't have a guilty. He has an innocent, unless he is godfather. What Listo has the the ability to be only ONE green character and that character has been assigned, on my list, to another player.

Lora did not visit Listo so unsure where BN pulled that from either. Lora just didn't like Listo.

As Robot Devil is the assumed godfather, Listo therefore is likely scum, since RD has not flipped, since he cannot be any green roles.

Listo95 said:

Listo does not agree to this.

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I'm sorry Monsieur Listo. Madame Listo asked me to give you divorce papers. She was the one who preordained it. Do you doubt her power?

Since, you know it would literally mech clear him like he said unless LDG flipped...LDG.

Blind Ninja said:

Since she is likely to answer questions from people other then me, mind trying to get some activity?

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I am not trying to be obstinate with you so please do not take it that way. But outside of Rock claiming LDG, I don't need LDG to post to assume her alignment. It matches the char list perfectly.

The only hangup I have is you claiming he visted Kumquat and him not. But it's whatever. If he did visit Kumquat, unsure why he'd lie as LDG.

Blind Ninja said:

@rock meets hard place With listo being essentially caught, unless Lora was straight up trolling us, why vote Future?

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This man is asking the real questions.

Blind Ninja said:

At least you are looking... but I know im not scum here.

I feel pLDG has better scum equity then I do, based off play... but too many people are willing to derp clear her early and expect nothing the rest of the game.

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I don't think pLDG is where we should go, unless Rock is gonna claim LDG by voting her.

Then maybe I'd test it her.

Outside of that, shes solid as solid town.

Honestly, if yall just spreadsheeted you'd see I'd be an easier yeet target than Future. Just jeez.

rock meets hard place said:

I'm already voting future so when you say that I'm not voting who I think is scum are you lying or just lying?

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No one is going over Listo today. It's been preordained.

Blind Ninja said:

If game is solved, why dont we just ship listo... then move on the rock and end it?

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That was where my mind was.

Listo, Rock, Jarrod solves the game.

Get rid of all 3 and its a town win.

The ONLY caveat is if Listo doesn't flip RD, then you BN could be the godfather I believe. But thats solvable by yeeting Listo who, per my sheet, can be no town roles.

Blind Ninja said:

Who are the scum and why?

You say you are interested in winning the game, but arent actively trying to progress and solve said game

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Stop ruining the fun times of Rock shitposting.

Game is solved. We win. You can relax.

Unless Listo isn't RD. Then you need to die too.

rock meets hard place said:

I know it's just scum talk but you guys have some odd ideas of what is a "good" post

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You still aren't voting on the people you really think are scum. Sure maybe Future.

But you are LDG if you are actually mech cleared, which means pLDG isn't actually cLDG and therefore is scum.

Why not vote on someone directly against you?

It's silly.

Everything is silly.

The world makes no sense.

FutureHold said:

So let me get this straight Rock. Your plan is to make yourself look more scummy despite my scumminess all game, I don’t know what your end game is. I mean Void wanted to yeet me before you

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I don't know if I can love a post more than this post.

I try to be fair when accusing people of being scum, okay.

Or well. Fine.

@rock meets hard place You could technically be LDG then. Which then means LDG is lying and is scum.

rock meets hard place said:

Doesn't BN have a clear on me? And BN has a clear on him

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BN said he tracked you to Kumquat. You said you didn't visit Kumquat.

rock meets hard place said:

Also I don't think you are town playing poorly, I think you are just scum lol

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I hear a lot of words.

It would be really funny though if I was a scum that was manipulating you all because I spreadsheeted.

Mwhahahha.

rock meets hard place said:

So am I but you insist that I'm scum so...

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You aren't mech cleared though.

You are Jackie or Daddy (assuming Listo is RD)

rock meets hard place said:

Assume we do future today, why should I think you are just town playing poorly and not scum?

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If you really think I am town playing poorly, just vote me and put me out of my misery then.

I'm mech cleared

rock meets hard place said:

I'm only interested in winning the game. I don't care who you are.

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And attempting to yeet me wouldn't help you win.

rock meets hard place said:

Or we could just do void first but yeah

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You wouldn't dare.

rock meets hard place said:

Let's just do future then void so I can win. I hate losing to void b/c you guys refuse to lynch him. Of course the mason fake claim helped

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This is a really funny post for a couple of reasons actually that will be evident after the game.

rock meets hard place said:

I can confirm that I di not visit kumquat

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This is even more interesting.

I don't remember Psycho saying he saw Rock visit Kumquat, but BN saw him visit Kumquat.

Though. This is interesting

Listo and Rock are the final scum.

That leaves the Daddy Dearest action, that has no target in the writeup. The thing we actually accused Xan of being.

Blind Ninja said:

Kumquat

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In the write up, only these characters targeted Kumquat on N1

LDG, Tankman, Girlfriend

Rock is not LDG.
Tankman was Psycho
Girlfriend was CWE

Blind Ninja said:

Also dont see how Chameleon is a cop check... Chances are listo is red

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GC said he wasn't scum unless he is godfather. In the last version of this, Robot Devil was a godfather. If Listo is Robot Devil, then it could still be a cop check somehow.

Actually, knowing things that I know, I expect a 100% town win rate for this game.

Stick with yeeting Future, Rock, and Jarrod and this game is 100% a win.

FutureHold said:

if you think the game is solved then you’re wrong

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If I am correct, it is resolved whether or not you are scum.

I think Jarrod is town. That leaves you or Rock as the final scum outside of Listo. Yeet both of you we win.

If Jarrod is the final scum, well fucking played.

So we have two misyeets and we lose, assuming the kills all go through.

8 Players remaining

6 Town/2 Scum - Yeet Listo
6 Town/1 Scum - Town death
5 Town/1 Scum - Yeet Future (pretend misyeet)
4 Town/1 Scum - Town death
3 Town/1 scum - Yeet Rock (pretend misyeet) - Game Over

We have to pick two of of Future, Rock, and Jarrod who is most likely to be the final scum and we win.

Lora targeted Blind Ninja, Xanjori, and Psycho as a cop check. He did not go after any of them which suggests they are clean. (This is assumed as both of them have claims that could be corroborated, but this confirms it. They could be GF, but unlikely)

Grumpy targeted Listo with a cop check and said he was clean. Listo can only be one green character, but this one is one I apply to Jarrod due to the aforementioned breadcrumb.

Assuming Listo is scum, the final scum is in

Rock (Has to be Jackie/Daddy Dearest - BN states that Rock is clean due to his info)
Future (Has to be Jackie/Daddy Dearest - Most likely scum due to BN's info above)
Jarrod (scum only if i am wrong about breadcrumb)

@Blind Ninja Without getting modkilled since this "SHOULD" just be giving information you have, but where did Rock go on N1? I believe your info, but want to make sure since the game looks to be solved now. Sorry Future.

One other* green character

According to my character list, Listo can only be scum. There is one green character not placed, with Lora's death, and he CANNOT be that character as he was targeted by it.

He could technically be one green character, but that is the character I have Jarrod assumed as due to a breadcrumb I think I saw.

Vote: Listo

Wow. Lora was actually cop.

Lmfao

Also, I did not read Boyfriend as a cop. At all.

I was...not expecting Lora to be killed.

What even is that writeup?

Lora said:

you already do

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...I really set myself up for that didn't I.

I can't wait till I look fucking stupid. :D

FutureHold said:

What’s the vote count?

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5 for Lettuce
3 for Future
1 for Listo

Like seriously, can we please hammer so the hammer total isn't lowered by one tomorrow.

Blind Ninja said:

Im going back to bed... Ive said my peace.

@VoidKitten since I get ignored when I ask LDG things, care to try to get her more engaged with the game?

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I can try tomorrow, if needed. No point now since theres an hour left in day which is why you should just vote Lettuce anyway so we can hit hammer and not lose a vote for tomorrow.

Blind Ninja said:

Anything looks like effort when he's done nothing.

Why dont you ask/pressure LDG to be more active and give thoughts? Or is your entire world view on her "derp cleared d1" and "tribute game wouldnt make her scum"

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When has pressuring LDG to do anything actually gotten it done? She does not respond to pressure, but people asking nicely and accepting what she said when she provides it. She has been somewhat insightful this game I feel.

Blind Ninja said:

And you claim you'll do more to look town. Still done nothing to make yourself look townie. Just following people with no independent thinking this game

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In his defense, this last day has been so much more towny than the previous days. That is why I want Lettuce over.

He is making an effort when he was asked to.

Lora said:

says who?

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I was roleblocked on N1 when 5 scum acted. Only one who didn't act was Devito. And they are dead.

I am still mechanically cleared of being scum though

Blind Ninja said:

Thats a fair assessment.

If you were modding this, with the info youve given about Llettuce's activity, would you remove them tonight?

If Llettuce flips town tonight from a lynch, and we have to use another day to flip FH, do you see how it would look bad for you if he flips scum a day later?

I know we dont have damning info on future, but he is in most peoples POE.

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If lettuce flips town and future flips scum, I will look absolutely terrible and there is no defense for it other than I'd have been wrong.

Blind Ninja said:

You will need to revisit your spreadsheet if/when I flip... unless scum have the ability to alter that

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If you flip as what I expect you to flip as, I have already accounted for it in my spreadsheet.

i should clarify that while, in my game, the player was the vig, the marking was done by the mod and written very similarly to how its written here.

Blind Ninja said:

You 100% believe that the BN lines in the witeups are red hearings?

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I 100% believe they are a mod mechanic for inactivity based on how they are written. I do not believe he is a player or an action a player has.

The writeup reminds me of the inactivity vig I did when people got marked. Sure this was a player then, but I do not believe based on everything I see, that cBN is a player.

I think I know what you are trying to say thinking on your role, but i think you are a special case, just like two Picos is a special case, and something else is a special case.

Blind Ninja said:

I dont want you to do that either... But is that basically where you are?

Everyone listed as 1 name and excluded BN?

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I have every role placed with a player except

Daddy Dearest
Robot Devil
Erling
Jackie
Boyfriend

Blind Ninja (since you want me to add it)

Blind Ninja said:

If you have all names listed as someone... and have excluded BN... then you are wrong. Think a little outside the box.

I can potentially be wrong about Rock, but that tinfoil is for another day.

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Yall are about to make me drop everyones name in a post and make it easy for scum to kill so we can discuss this.

But, if BN is saying what I feel like he is saying, then thats...interesting

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Then someone you have listed as town is 100% wrong.

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Is this in regards to Rock? Because I have him placed as two potential town roles based on your claim. However, if you are the characters that I think you are then something is suspicious, I agree.

But if my read on your claim is correct, what is psyching me out is the fact that I'm not entirely sure how your role can definitively say someone is town.

But yeah, if Rock is clean and your info is explicit with that, then then someone I have listed as town is wrong.

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You have knowledge based on your role and whatever spread-sheeting youve done...

I have knowledge based on my role.

I will tell you, you likely dont have all the information. How have you come to the determination that the BN character doesnt exsist?

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Because there is not enough remaining characters that ACTUALLY perform actions to a name that just appears.

You said you were going to low effort this game, but are not trusting someone who has actually put in the god damn effort to figure shit out.

I do not believe you think I am actually scum so maybe you should think on what I am saying

Blind Ninja said:

So not there is no room for me as an actual player... Thanks.

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Blind Ninja, the character, is not an actual player.

You are not Blind Ninja the character.

Blind Ninja said:

MTR is dead...

Not unheard of for people to not kill a target they claim they would want to remove.

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THERE IS NO PLAYER WHO IS BN

Anyone who wants to rely on a mod mechanic to kill someone isn't thinking logically.

Because there is no room for BN as an actual player.

Blind Ninja said:

I think with the possibility of an inactivity vig... or neglecting the rules... we should vote Future. If both are scum, removing the active one who is likely still putting in actions over the inactive one who could be modkilled for inactivity or removed by vig, is the better option.

I will not be changing my vote based on this.

Future should go over Llettuce for above reasons. If Lletty flips town and Future flips scum, VKs call to do llet over fh looks extremely sus.

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Explain MTR not being killed then?

I originally was worried that Danny Devito was not an actual character, but since he is, I don't think we have a case of a Caito-esque role where it always appears green.

Assuming everyone is not lying about what they are and the info claimed,

Lettuce
Jarrod
Lora
Rock
Listo

Do not have direct characters they can be. Three of them are scum names and two of them are town names.

Xanjori said:

VK what is your thoughts on Jarrod?

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Town. I have him placed as a role/character. To be fair, this is just based off a breadcrumb I think he did on D3.

@Listo95 I think Lettuce is the better choice, if you are around and coherent to swap.

@Xanjori @FutureHold @Jarrod1983

Yall should vote. I'd prefer lettuce. Future isn't an awful choice because it clears the PoE nicely, but if I had a gun to my head and said I'd have to pick Future or Lettuce as scum, I'd pick Lettuce based on her ISO.

Future still coming at me, when told its not possible, and then swapping to directly my PoE feels like someone going with the flow, trying to figure things out, and does not have an agenda they want to push.

All of that is fakeable, but I want to yeet the vegetable.

Hell. I just went to look at the ISO again. With Badger flipping as scum for calling it a silence, look at Lettuce doing the EXACT same thing. She also calls out a vote empower, which we have now also seen double votes. Both of which we didn't see until the end of day. She comes in and pretends to not even be reading and tries to pick and choose things to analyze the writeup.

Again, I still do not believe that "VoidKitten was powerless around her. And soon he would know it as well" reads as a silence to anyone without TMI.