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  1. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    We won good job vesper :highfive:
    Yayyy!! Even though my problem solving (but of course, I'm new and new to most of the people here) was definitely flawed lol
  2. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Wellll, looks like I missed a lot while I legit forgot about the game for the day lol
  3. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Honestly, there are a few things that set me off for LDG now that I look back and have processed everything better, one of those is being Grumpy questioning earlier in the day about if LDG was being coached, the way that it was asked if Grumpy wanted LDG to lie, and the reaction LDG had afterwards. I could be wrong and no one has to come to the same conclusion from that, but from my observations from the events of this day phase, it does not look all too well for LDG.
    AFTER I typed this, deciding to describe everything cause I couldnt figure out how to quote all the things I wanted to, i figured out how to quote multiple posts. Oh my god.
    Thats the townies thing you did this game. Are you coached?

    Would you like me to lie?
    Anyways. Around these posts were what I was talking about
  4. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    It kind of seems as if LDG is acting very defensive, which can, from my current knowledge of human psychology, seem more like guilt. I definitely find it more suspicious.
    Vote: LDG
  5. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Honestly, there are a few things that set me off for LDG now that I look back and have processed everything better, one of those is being Grumpy questioning earlier in the day about if LDG was being coached, the way that it was asked if Grumpy wanted LDG to lie, and the reaction LDG had afterwards. I could be wrong and no one has to come to the same conclusion from that, but from my observations from the events of this day phase, it does not look all too well for LDG.
  6. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    However, I do feel there is something, not sure what, that could be gleaned from the LDG and Grumpycat interaction,not entirely sure what however, so there's a chance my stance on LDG could change, I have to do some reading tonight after writing a resume
  7. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    LDG seems to give town vibes to me, I am skeptical about Tidley however.
  8. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    So that would be my bad
  9. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Even with Diva's not town on someone... honestly surprised the vote wasnt there.
    I meant to say they are not scum and are town, but my brain went faster than my fingers and i mistyped/miscommunicated what I meant to
  10. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Anyways, with that bit of input, I must go back to essay writing and if anyone sees me back on before i finish this draft, someone NEEDS to bonk me over the head figuritively
  11. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    PPl keep saying "we":squint: and its makin me nervous
    It could potentially be a saying just all the players collectively? At least it seems to be in this context, as to keep everyone from not being able to get their required posts in
  12. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Meh... you are just following everybody now.

    Had high hopes for your free thinking earlier
    well due to the semester starting to pick up and me not having quite as much time to psychoanalyze everyone's posts from the beginning, and/or even some previous games, and the fact that this is my first game, I am trying my best based off of the personalities of the people I do know (and I know my cousins fairly well)
    Therefore, me knowing Diva and their personality leads me to believe they are not town and that they, since they have played at least a few mafia games with you all, may be on to something that is suspicious about you
  13. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    However, I trust Diva in how they do not seem scummy and have also seemed to believe BN as kind of suspicious so
    Vote: BN
  14. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    But, at the same time I do not know everyone's playing style and there could be a chance that a scum could have come up with an idea to frame Tidley as scum using what I just said above. As someone knew, I am just throwing out my thoughts into the void and am taking into account for every possibility (I have practice, aka anxiety)
  15. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Especially due to the fact that MTR does have a point from what I know from my aunt and from a strategical point of the people who are more of a threat (which someone who makes whole SPREADSHEETS and keeps it updated and shares with the class lol would be a threat to scum) would be typically taken out early on, which does make sense
  16. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Even though I do not know any of your guys' playing styles, I do side with Jarrod in saying that Diva is town, and I do find the conversation between Tidley and MTR interesting and plan to keep that in mind.
  17. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Ugh you people going to make me sit down and sheet this.
    Please do. Cause my schedule is causing me to struggle a bit with my ability to comprehend everything in a good fashion, esp since I have my first essay in college comp assigned and soon shall start the programming assignments
  18. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I know that this is your first game with us. Have you played mafia before? Or have you had a chance since this game started to look into some of the power roles to learn more about what they are and how they work? Do you have any questions at this point in time about any mechanics?
    I have not played mafia before this game and I have been fairly busy was assignments so I am working my way through some of it.
  19. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    me and you have two very different explanations of a threat then
    definitions* brain fart
  20. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I'm not threatening. I'm trying to explain without stepping over the line.
    me and you have two very different explanations of a threat then
  21. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Vote: Jarrod
    and as Claws point was, if Diva lied, we kill them
  22. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    You vote with the info if they lie they die next
    Very fair
  23. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    For your own good you shouldn't put your name on my train.
    Honestly in a normal type way, that makes you seem more scummy to me, threats are not how you seem more town
  24. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I'm honestly kind of torn on who to vote. The actions of last night makes both Jarrod and BN seem sus, but there's also the fact it could have been something like an action, and there's also what Tidley said to farther explain the thinking of Diva.
  25. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I come back from work on my break to find the discussion of this XD
    free entertainment: the suspicious door talks
  26. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    It does in fact seem interesting that you are avoiding questions by replying with another question, Grumpy
    some could say that the questions could be used to guide people to wanted conclusions however and that just being your way of saying your answer without strictly saying the order however
  27. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    It does in fact seem interesting that you are avoiding questions by replying with another question, Grumpy
  28. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    And then, there were 13 (of us alive)
  29. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Oh if you guys were talking about whoever killed Peter, yeah no that wasn't me. But if that wad advice for if I ever do then oop 😆
  30. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Any particular reason? I mean he is always scummy but so is Future so there is that.
    A hunch in a way, I'm not sure. I actually had just a possible group of people to vote for and just chose one randomly. But sometimes, in a psychology way, one's subconscious picks up more than what they are conscious of
  31. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Vote: Claws
  32. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    So Jarrod’s vote is just gone?
    Thats...odd? unless if it was a smol error
  33. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Oh no, the computer science in me is coming on:
    I wonder if I can go back through all previous games and see if anyone had a favorite person to vote on or any other play specific trend (which could be modeled and found using Data Science skills and python, and I do have an IDE and the correct added on libraries for data science. Luckily, for all of you, I don't have the patience for it, esp due to the fallacies of correlation does not equal causation and the such)
  34. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    What I find interesting here, just to note, is that Tildey (unless if it was a mistake) had put in three different votes. One for MTR, one for herself, and one for Future.
    Okay so looking back through the official vote count, Tildey only actually had one vote on MTR
  35. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Here's also the final day 1 vote count. Here's where I'm going to theorize that Vesper was the counter train.

    Divasmurf - 1 (lletuce)
    Lora - 7 (Val, Lora, Psycho, Mazer, Grumpy, Void)
    Listo - 1 (rock meets hard place)
    MTR - 2 (ForgottenHold, Tildey)
    vesper - 6 (morrison, Claws, BN, Dreyski, Listo, Jarrod)
    rock meets hard place - 1 (Randolph)
    Tildey - 2 (MTR, Tildey)
    ForgottenHold - 2 (DivaSmurf, Tildey)


    Earlier I theorized that Vesper was the lora counter train. You have two scum on early. I had also pointed out that I gave Lora an "just have fun" opportunity to push his train to see if he would. He didn't. And that also lines up with the town run. I think he had buyer's remorse when people started talking about how not to vote Vesper, because Vesper might die.

    Of that train, I most excuse morrison. His early vote was pretty much on brand. And I doubt he actually expected anything to happen, in either alignment.

    There are two later votes on this Listo and Jarrod come after Morrison that are suspicious with timing and players. And Jarrod has said that he was just fooling around. That's fine. But I've already pointed out the non-fooling contradiction.

    And I currently think him and Val were taking advantage of Rock's handiwork at the beginning of day 2.


    In any event, Jarrod and Listo are two of my concerns here. And both need further vetting.





    Put a lot out I know. If anyone sees mistakes or lapses (like I made with GC's dog photo lol), please shoot holes.
    What I find interesting here, just to note, is that Tildey (unless if it was a mistake) had put in three different votes. One for MTR, one for herself, and one for Future.
  36. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I have returned during my noon break between classes. Have I fully processed it? Not truly in a good puzzle solving way, but after my last class and a meeting that I must go to, I'm going to comb through this more and see if I can make an attempt of giving any good feedback :)
  37. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I can try to help?
    -Rock & Void had a verrrrry long conversation (may the force be with your attention span)
    -Void appears to have been broken (I think by Rock).
    -Seems to be newer momentum on a GC train (I think cause abbi’s law?)
    -You hurt GC’s feelings because you ignored him and didn’t profess your town status.
    The helpful one with the analysis and summary of the past quite a few hours
    Amazing
    :angel:
  38. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Since it is late and i must do the shenanigans of looking churc ready in the morning and have the mental energy to deal with everything, I'm going to bed for tonight
  39. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    To give you some context on things that could cause an early EOD:
    -a special action (could be scum or town) that causes the current phase to end
    -if any one player gets enough votes cast on them to reach hammer (which is 1 more than half of the current alive players)
    -mod shenanigans
    ohhhh, thank you <3
    there's still the chance I may have a goofy forget to vote before the day ends anyways (it's a Sunday and I must to chapel (oh what happens when you go to a Christian college partly bc of the scholarships) and I'm going to be hanging out/doing calcus homework with friends that could evolve into more horror game playing)
  40. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    but there's also the possibility if I don't do anything tonight, I may get distracted tomorrow and forget to vote anyone before day ends
  41. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Since I still haven't observed enough to make an accurate decision, and the above post as to what it replies to I didn't know a forced end of day was potentially a thing, I'm gonna do this mostly for silliness that may change tomorrow if I happen to see something that catches my eye that makes me have a better idea of anything:
    Vote: Futurehold
    since I know that if this was a thing, I'm not sure if it would affect anyone that didn't vote
  42. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Since I still haven't observed enough to make an accurate decision, and the above post as to what it replies to I didn't know a forced end of day was potentially a thing, I'm gonna do this mostly for silliness that may change tomorrow if I happen to see something that catches my eye that makes me have a better idea of anything:
    Vote: Futurehold
  43. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Oh pretty sure we all knew that lmao wouldn't have pinged that as too much. I guess knowing it came from his action and not someone's action against him?

    I am like 4 pages behind lmao will hopefully update when I get there (I am a little drunk (happy anniversary to me) so we will see how far I get
    Congratulations on your anniversary!! Being a little drunk is definitely valid :)
  44. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I can so see you and Future being related from this post. lol
    That could be because we are cousins that had evil influences on each other (evil part being a joke, but influences was not)
  45. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    excuse me if that sounded a bit rude and pissed, but it kind of irked me due to my in real life schedule and the other factors in my life
  46. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Prob bc she isn't doing anything but you could say that for most of the thread
    May I offer some real life context as to why I dont exist quite as much:
    when I do exist, i try to read on the threads
    but when I dont, it would be because im in my 2nd semester of college and im taking College Comp, Calc 1, Programming Fundamentals 2, a history class, and two fine art electives and I have to work, along with doing any homework, reading, or household things, and i also end up socializing with my friends that i care about (i just got off of playing a horror game with one) and since im new, i am trying to observe a little bit before posting

    tl;dr: I have a life and I am observing posts to try to learn things in a sociological manner so i may learn the game better
  47. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Posting cat gifs should be a crime.
    No Way Cat GIF
  48. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    On another note than whats going on above, its kind of interesting noting what we all see as suspicious from one another, especially since there is an obvious difference (told by timezones) in what cultures we come from, whether it be differences from the area we are from or even the age differences that may exist. Just an observation. It will be fun, however, trying to figure out how to tell if someone is buffing, lying, or telling the truth. Ah yes, the mixture of sociology and psychology that appeals to part of my brain
  49. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    to be fair, fucking around bc of boredom is very very reasonable
  50. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Dang I just spend a hour reading that whole mess that occurred while I was not paying attention/doing calculus (God help me)/reading/sleeping. But just dropping this here: seeing as this would be my first mafia game, if I was being coached, I'd probably look like I know what I was doing. But since I do not know what I am doing, I am learning based off of observing everyone else to learn. And will probably badly fake that I know what I am doing until I figure it out/know people more or better to have a good read or feel of them.
  51. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I'm not saying it wasn't possible. I just don't think anyone thought it was a real possibility. Except Vesper maybe. Even after Vesper said that people were quick to say probably not going to d
    yeah, I didn't even know it was possible for people to not die if voted, buuuutttt to be fair, now I'm actually playing and not hearing the few overheard comments that were out of context for me, I get to learn things
  52. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Apparently I haven't voted yet even though I was pretty sure I did lol, soooo bc family drama is fun:
    Vote: Tidley
  53. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    welp, I'm gonna probably be dead whe I wake up. Cause I leave for work with 3 votes for me, get off with 6. Nice knowing ya'll I guess XD
  54. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Me: *wants to survive at least one day*
    Morrison, Claws, and BN: *votes for me* (so rude guys lol)
  55. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Everyone should just vote someone and move things along to a day that matters
    this post describes what I did today lol
  56. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Vote: CWE

    not me choosing a random person and seeing what occurs from it
  57. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    well then, thats fun??
  58. Vesper

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    1. Peter Griffin
    2. Randolph
    3. Caito
    4. Nightingale
    5. PsychoSoldier
    6. Val the Moofia Boss
    7. Jarrod1983
    8. MTR
    9. FutureHold (but not ForgottenHold) 10.Mazer
    11. Claws
    12. Lletuce
    13. morrison
    14. VoidKitten
    15. Vesper
    16. Dreyski
    17. Listo95
    18. "Grumpycat”
    19. Tildey
    20. LemonDemonGirl
    21. rock meets hard place
    22. Diva
    23. Lora
    24. CWE
    69/99. BN
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