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    kiss mafia

    Vote: Listo
    This is how I’m feeling
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    kiss mafia

    Listo was already top of my POE.
    Looking back over CWE and 3pups posts last phase, CWE mentioned Listo at top of his scum list, and pups was giving indication to cop Listo. If Listo is scum and a gf then it absolutely makes sense he would kill CWE over pups because the track would mess up the cop clear.
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    kiss mafia

    Diva - can you explain why you think MTR was not protecting me? If he was bodyguard, and took a bullet for me, I am in his debt. And next game, I will allow him to use my D1 vote. As town, wouldn't the BG want to protect either the cop or the doc? Since a doc hasn't claimed yet, it seems that it'd either be me he'd protect, or he'd holster. But I don't understand a holster if he had a chance to protect a more important town role.
    Currently at work skimming(not fully caught up) but to answer this really fast:
    My understanding of bodyguard role (based on https://sc2mafia.com/wiki/Bodyguard ) is that if scum would have targeted the person being guarded then both the shooter and guard would have died, in this case only the guard died, leading me to believe MTR was the intended target.

    Side note: will fully catch up when I get home but first I gotta finish paperwork at work
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    kiss mafia

    I made a list with known/claimed roles to help me get some thoughts together. Sharing in case it helps anyone else.

    Claimed
    2. Claws - Vanilla Town
    3. CWE - Tracker
    5. PsychoSoldier - JOAT
    10. 3puppies - cop
    11. DivaSmurf - Vanilla Town
    13. Mazer - town neighbor
    14. Blind Ninja - town neighbor

    Unclaimed
    8. Val the Moofia Boss - cleared by 3pup
    9. Listo95 -

    Dead:
    1. Nightingale town neighbor
    4. Satsu town watcher
    6. MTR town bodyguard
    7. Dreyski mafia 1x bulletproof traitor
    12. LemonDemonGirl Miller
    15. ForgottenHold mafia neighbor

    I realize we probably have some fake claims in play at this point, because this balance doesn't feel very balanced (but I don't really know anything about balancing a mafia game, so I could be wrong).

    6 VTs - me, Claws, Mazer, BN, Foxxi, LDG (assuming town neighbors & the Miller counts as VT)
    5 TPRs - Dead (Satsu-watcher, MTR-bodyguard); Claimed (CWE-tracker, Psych-JOAT, 3pups-cop)
    2 Scum - Future-mafia neighbor, Dreyski-BP traitor

    No claims:
    Val - cleared by 3 pups but hasn't offered any deets or role claim? Is this typical or is it sus? Cause it feels potentially off to me.
    Listo -

    How many scum do we think are left? 1 or 2 or 3?
    The two flipped scum don't seem to have had any real powers, what does that likely mean for the powers of the ones that are left?
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    kiss mafia

    If I was watched, then why didn't you see mtr body guard me?
    I don’t think he body guarded you
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    kiss mafia

    Does The fact that Dreyski was scum and had a BPV mean there's a town player with a gun? I got no results last night.
    If you were blocked is it possible MTR was protecting someone else?
    My thought process is it doesn’t make sense for scum to spend two of their actions on the same target on the same night phase, so I’m thinking MTR was either the intended target or he was protecting someone else, either way I don’t think 3pups was kill target
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    kiss mafia

    im gunna guess that he died protecting our cop thank you for your service champ
    This is also my initial thought
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    kiss mafia

    Hey sorry I was gone last phase, work has been crazy the last few days, and truthfully I lost track of how much time had passed.
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    kiss mafia

    Then again maybe not
    if i counted correctly i believe he is at six votes
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    kiss mafia

    chinese fire drill onto 1 person basically every1 unvotes and votes the one person
    thank ya!
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    kiss mafia

    Or CFD psycho. That'd be spicy.

    Can you call it a CFD if the lead wagon is only 3?
    can we all just CFD on the fox id be ok with a fox lynch
    What does CFD mean?
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    kiss mafia

    *does a fox dance*
    Sassy Fox GIF
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    kiss mafia

    For me, there was some early movement in the neighbors chat, that raiased my hackles. Because there's been a lot of work going on in there. Seemed like some citations to agree.

    Since I wasn't sure about you, I wanted to see how he would respond to that, hence my early strategy. We also have to be a little wise with what we say in there, as we are assuming 1 scum, and that everything we say is visible to scum. On a different note, I misdirected on who I was going to push most day 1, because I wanted to stay alive n1, and I was suspicious of future. And so I told everyone I wanted to push someone else. And that person, even if scum, wouldn't be intimidated by a push.

    And really future can't counter any of that, because multiple people could confirm if needed.


    With the number of neighbors, we still think that it's likely that there is one scum in the group. And those I've had two places (here and neighbor chat) to vet their metas. I also don't love the val vote. At least me and one other person had asserted Val's meta in the neighbor chat to be random, and future voting there felt like a convenient way to stay off a train.
    alright sold
    Unvote:
    Vote: future
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    kiss mafia

    Welp, I didn't realize how early deadline was today

    Future also feels a bit like a shrugyeet, but he hasn't had the usual towny presence I've come to expect from his town game. D1 was alright, but he's been largely avoidant this phase.

    Let me see if I can squeeze a catch up
    highly interested in your read if you're able to
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    kiss mafia

    just finished a shift at work and have to go back in a few hours, only an hour or so left on day phase, figured I'd come check in on the thread
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    kiss mafia

    i'm not sold on voting future off, whats the reasoning
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    kiss mafia

    Vote: mazer
    Here's where I'm going to put my vote for now, but I am open to changing it.
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    kiss mafia

    Ok now that I'm caught up here's how I'm feeling.

    mazer feels scummy, the push on me feels opportunistic, he knows better than anyone my day one post style was consistent with how I usually play
    -also if anyone decodes the clues he's said he's dropped please share with the class
    MTR reads scummy to me because he was so against voting LDG, then he made a switch to her last second
    3pups seems towny to me so I don't think he's lying about his deets, so I don't know how to feel about that
    Not picking up on a scum vibe from Future
    Psycho seems to be reading my motivations better than my therapist so I'm gonna have to mark him as town
    I'm reading CWE as town, he's giving grumpy and irritable but he's not giving scum

    as for everyone else I'm not feeling too strongly one way or the other
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    kiss mafia

    Sure you may not have reads on everyone, but figured you'd be have at least some insight on those you've known longest... like FH and MTR.
    If I had been more active in more games that might be true, but in practice I've only had maybe two games where I was consistently engaged, my goal is to make this game number three, I just wasn't expecting the last couple days to be so rough.
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    kiss mafia

    perfunctory

    disinclined.
    uncle mazer did you swallow a dictionary? are you ok?
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    kiss mafia

    I didn't love Diva's pop in style and recitation.
    this is my post style every game I play, seems weird that this game you've decided it's scummy
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    kiss mafia

    Well, if you insist.
    Unvote: Diva
    Vote: CWE

    Still happy to train Diva tho. We should totes train Diva.
    yeeting me is a waste of time, it's not going to help us win.
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    kiss mafia

    @DivaSmurf @ForgottenHold @MTR How do you feel about your other house members?

    Additionally for Diva, why didnt you comment yesterday on the direction of votes, aside from saying you dont think we should vote LDG. But had 3 posts about Bagels, a post about math, a post about books, a gif and work is busy.


    @VoidKitten You coming back to us anytime soon? Would like to hear your take on game state.
    I'm not very active in these games because I feel like I don't have much to contribute and I struggle with doing reads, me sharing my thoughts on the LDG vote was me trying to do better. I struggle with reads in general and especially day one reads, so I voted no yeet because I was worried about making a mistake.
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    kiss mafia

    On a more serious note, this does remind me once again of my trip to Cairo. A nurse is always fairly transparent, even if you're not medically trained. And Murdoch is catholic. So you can usually tell what he's feeling. Ultimately, I really was concerned about Groening's later work, as the Simpsons was his apex.
    this reads like something important but I don't know the code
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    kiss mafia

    While I would expect that there was likely some spread yesterday, I think mtr likely had some genuine consternation about voting LDG. Some people were doing their duty, I guess. But it definitely could genuinely not feel great to vote LDG for lack of participation after she was frustrated. I'm not intending to waste another day debating that, but suffice it to say some people are going to "feel" very differently about that.

    I mention this, because while I don't think the absence of write-ups is a good reason to preclude the possibility of a gf, which is often standard in games without Rajah style write-ups, I would not really suspect mtr of being the godfather.

    I would tend to think Blind Ninja would be more reserved on his general frustrations and pushes on LDG as scum. He brings her up every game, so I don't process it the same as I would a generic bad kill (part of the reason yesterday frustrates). I could be wrong, but that felt a little more like town BN.

    It might be good for Futuramahold to give his take on Diva. And anyone else he wants.
    Futuramahold=hilarious
    also i don't understand what you mean by "spread" could you explain
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    kiss mafia

    I like the write up. :)
    I hate it, I didn't realize this was the style to expect.
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    kiss mafia

    Hey, I'm so sorry, I had a double on Friday, martial arts training on Saturday morning followed by another double at work, tried to sit down and catch up last night but ended up passing out. Catching up now.
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    kiss mafia

    Vote: no lynch
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    kiss mafia

    Removing any town, even an inactive town, hurts town, as scum need to get a majority.

    I disagree that inactive town members do not help town as much as they potentially could and should, but don't forget that they are still part of the numbers we need.
    I agree with this, also to add on there’s always the potential she could submit actions this game if she has a town role with actions, I don’t think we should yet her day one
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    kiss mafia

    Found your problem. Bagels are better with peanut butter. Cream cheese is best used for frosting, danish strips or better yet, cheesecakes.
    I’ll fix that next time
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    kiss mafia

    Thats awesome but you only need to meake 1 post every 33 horus or so :>
    i meant right now I was eating a bagel
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    kiss mafia

    I was eating a bagel while catching up and I dropped it cream cheese side landed on the floor
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    kiss mafia

    Why the fuck are we doing math? I am here to do mafia not math.
    I’m loving the math
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    kiss mafia

    Read any good books lately?
    I’m currently reading hobbit and going to continue on to the Lord of the Rings books after
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    kiss mafia

    Yup. If you wanna tell us you're the cop you totally can. It's the wild west out here.
    wild west cowboy GIF by Morgan Creek
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    kiss mafia

    just want to hop in and say, valentines day stuff happening at work (i work at a cookie shop, its significant for us) so not caught up, will catch up in a little bit and post some thoughts after, but will be in a little bit
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    kiss mafia

    breadcrumbing/claiming was not mentioned in rules, does this mean it's allowed?
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