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  1. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I didn't protect him the night after he claimed hoping that there was a doc or that you wouldn't go after him thinking he would be protected. I did protect him the night I was killed so wasn't until I got to dead chat that I knew I was the target and not him.
  2. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Thanks for the game. I enjoyed it. Overall I think it went well. I think everyone always finds a couple things they wish they would have tweaked. That is the way it goes.

    Diva and 3pups played great games that helped town a lot and also the solving of the scum in the hood was a big help.
  3. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    I trust mtr as far as i can throw him
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    Love you too buddy.
  4. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    3hrs is plenty we got the last one out at like 3secs before eod
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    Well I worry about getting busy at work and not being around. But kind of slow while working front desk so far this afternoon
  5. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    My worry with drey is the quick pile up an hr ago hes still in my poe but likrle 3 ppl in 10mins popped on
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    Like Blind say that is a valid concern. I didn't mean to start like a really fast pile up. Just realizing we were running out of time and hadn't voted.
  6. MTR

    kiss mafia

    @DivaSmurf I know you are working but if can check in and vote that would be great
  7. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Yes we need to protect the cop and also need to get a yeet off. I am not against changing either if we think there is a better option. We seem to have a few we are bouncing between.
  8. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I am going to go Dreyski but willing to switch to CWE if people want to go that way. Both are in my current POE.

    Vote: Dreyski
  9. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Okay didn't realize how close to the deadline we were getting to. Been a long week. So yeah we need to make a choice. So guess that means I need to vote.
  10. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    Im sick as a motha fucka so entertain me
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    Dance Dancing GIF by The .GIFYS
  11. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    Why town for psych?
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    For me just doesn't seem like a scum psycho but I could be wrong and open to discussion and debate.
  12. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Okay trying to catch up here a bit this morning.

    Sucks to lose Foxxi but not surprising. Honestly figured scum would go a different route than 3pups even though he claimed just because probably worried about protections.

    So current reads and such for me are this.

    Town:
    BN
    Mazer
    3pups
    Val
    Claws
    Me

    Leaning town
    Diva
    Psycho

    Neutral
    Listo (need to see what he has to add before really can make up my mind)

    POE
    Dreyski (can't quite put my finger on why he feels scum to me just more gut)
    CWE (same thing can't quite put a finger on it but doesn't seem town to me)

    I may be off on some stuff but just kind of where I am at. I will keep going through thread and responding to stuff if there is something I want to respond to or add to
  13. MTR

    kiss mafia

    yeah we need one more vote so we are not doing this all again.
  14. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Then again maybe not
  15. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Nightingale said:
    We're gunna have to do this all again tomorrow aren't we?
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    Starting to think so
  16. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I think we are still short of the yeet.
  17. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Shit. Thought we had a little longer. Have a feeling we are not going to get yeet off
  18. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I am leaning Mazer's town so don't like that train.

    While not getting scum vibes per say from Future and being more neutral on him I would rather join that train than the Mazer train to make sure we get a yeet off today.

    Vote: Future
  19. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Okay we need to figure out who we are going after. I think the day ends later this afternoon and I don't think we are close to voting anyone yet. Granted not sure which way I want to go anymore.
  20. MTR

    kiss mafia

    DivaSmurf said:
    Ok now that I'm caught up here's how I'm feeling.

    mazer feels scummy, the push on me feels opportunistic, he knows better than anyone my day one post style was consistent with how I usually play
    -also if anyone decodes the clues he's said he's dropped please share with the class
    MTR reads scummy to me because he was so against voting LDG, then he made a switch to her last second
    3pups seems towny to me so I don't think he's lying about his deets, so I don't know how to feel about that
    Not picking up on a scum vibe from Future
    Psycho seems to be reading my motivations better than my therapist so I'm gonna have to mark him as town
    I'm reading CWE as town, he's giving grumpy and irritable but he's not giving scum

    as for everyone else I'm not feeling too strongly one way or the other
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    I have already explained why I went ahead and voted LDG despite not wanting too. We needed to get a yeet in because we are not going to be getting the info we are used to via writeups. I am typically a sleep on day one person but I agreed with people that it was the way to go and we have to hammer to get a yeet in or there is no yeet. I didn't want that person to be LDG and explained why and I am not rehashing all of that. But I also didn't want us to not get a yeet off and no one was switching to other people.

    And during night 1 3pups copped me and says I am clean.
  21. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    Vote: unvote

    I'm currently going to go with where I wanted an association. I was curious about an interplay.

    I have to ask myself, would Rock assign 4 people who are town all to a neighbor chat? Seems like ratio wise, you'd place a scum in there. If I consider that I'm meta reading two people as town, and I've got a couple reads in general that at least grant some suspicion, I think my highest odds are on

    [VOTEfuturehold[/VOTE]
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    Yeah I think it is safe to say if we do have a 4 people neighborhood that someone is not town.
  22. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Amazingly no hang over today after two nights of heavy drinking. I have never done so many Fireball shots but these guys like their Fireball.

    So trying to catch up. I see people bouncing around a little. I am going to go ahead and unvote for now and rethink things and trying to respond to some stuff.

    Unvote:
  23. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I will try to be around during the day today if discussion but tonight back to drinking and racing wooden cars and drinking and then taking everything down we set up and did I mention drinking.

    Normally I would wait until closer of the day phase to vote but going to go ahead and get a vote out there.

    Vote: Diva
  24. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    @DivaSmurf @ForgottenHold @MTR How do you feel about your other house members?

    Additionally for Diva, why didnt you comment yesterday on the direction of votes, aside from saying you dont think we should vote LDG. But had 3 posts about Bagels, a post about math, a post about books, a gif and work is busy.


    @VoidKitten You coming back to us anytime soon? Would like to hear your take on game state.
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    As much as I joke and what not early on any game we play about Future being scum, he is not really giving me scum vibes this game. I think somehow he has hit a town streak. I mean at this point I am not really completely clearing anyone except 3puppies but definitely leaning town on Future.

    Now on to Diva. The post at the end of day one were just odd even for typical day one shit posting that happens with this crew. Especially since for the most part the conversation going on was serious discussion and despite the conversation about needing to do a yeet and not just sleep they voted sleep at the end. So I am pinged by all of that to be honest. I mean I get trying to get post in but just seemed off.
  25. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I go have a beer or 4 with some friends last night along with some fireball while setting up a pinewood derby and I come in this morning to see way more about 3puppies than I ever wanted to know. Now let me go back and respond to stuff.
  26. MTR

    kiss mafia

    One of the votes may be because of deets but hard to tell right off the bat.
  27. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    Why did you expect mass claiming?
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    Because I am waiting on it to happen even though I think we should avoid it.
  28. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    Why would you kill Satsu? I figured scum would want Satsu alive
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    I wasn't expecting them to but at the same time not a bad choice. I wouldn't want him alive very long if I could help it.
  29. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    Satsu is interesting.

    We've had a few things revealed now with deaths and claims. So, the probability vise is tightening.

    Voidkitten being absent is NAI to me. Basically has to be real life, as he loves town and scum roles. But it's a huge hole in the interconnectivity reads. I would like to hear more from Diva, as I have some concern there.
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    I was not expecting Satsu for sure.

    Yeah Void said he had something going on I believe so he should be around soon I hope.

    Yeah was thinking same thing. I want to hear more from Diva.
  30. MTR

    kiss mafia

    3puppies said:
    Vote:
    Blind Ninja


    Because of the insistence on voting someone town out. Even though LDG wouldn't have done much to help solve, the town numbers are down 1.

    Also, let me put the following out there.

    MTR didn't feel great to me, as I got the vibe that he almost tried too hard to sound conflicted about voting LDG. I got a not guilty result on him, so he is clean unless Rock made him a godfather - which I doubt, because in a game without writeup details, I doubt. Then again, he made LDG a miller, so had she not died, if she'd been investigated she would have come back guilty.

    I am also a bit sus on Mazer for hammering.

    I realize that I am making myself a target, so I am hoping that I get protection before scum takes me out. Town has to share what we have learned, if anything
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    Part of me is pinged by Ninja but not because of his insistence of voting LDG. But not enough to vote for him right off the bat. Can't quite put my finger on why he feels off to me. Plus I don't want to look like I am just going after him because of our interaction at end of day.

    I am not a godfather. I am clean like your result says.

    I am not sus on Mazer for the hammer. He said he would hammer earlier in the phase unless I am remembering wrong. I can look back later. I have to go switch libraries and drive in the snow. Go me. Not saying Mazer is clean but I wouldn't sus him for the hammer.
  31. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I was expecting mass claiming not 3 quick different votes
  32. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Sucks that we lost the watcher. :(
  33. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I like the write up. :)
  34. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    If you dont want to discuss LDG and dont really like the train... where do you want the discussion to go? Youve had opportunity to redirect the conversation, but didnt.
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    I started off by voting Satsu instead of LDG but that discussion went no where. I didn't really have anywhere else to go so was going along with the various discussions going on until they got frustrating. So don't keep acting like I have only discussed one thing during this phase.

    Either way got too much else to do before I leave work which is after the end of the day phase so switching votes and lets see if we get any info out of it and of course make you happy since you constantly hate that she plays anyway.

    Unvote:

    Vote: LDG
  35. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    I mean if your attitude is your the only right one and no1 else your useless anyways
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    If that was my attitude sure but that is not my attitude.
  36. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I don't think we are going to get another train up this close so I am willing to switch to LDG just to be sure we get a yeet off even I don't like it.
  37. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    WHen ldg flips red can we go after mtr
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    Sure if you want to kill town
  38. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    Ive been playing far longer with her then you i think i know
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    I understand that but at this point I have played with her quite a bit and more recent history that I can remember she tends to either OMGUS or just say fuck it and self vote.
  39. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    This also comes back to, ONCE the game starts, Its the players responsibility to solve and remove people... Not the mods.
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    I am done with this discussion beyond having it outside of the game after the game. We are not completely disagreeing on everything except this point. We are just going in circles at this point on whether it is the players responsibility to deal with inactives or not and I am over it and this is not productive.
  40. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    She never just concedes
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    yeah she does
  41. MTR

    kiss mafia

    3puppies said:
    Are you intentionally missing the distinction between a town yeet and a scum yeet? A town yeet of an inactive town makes scum one step closer to their majority.

    Town can - and has - won plenty of times by refusing to yeet on D1 when we have no information. Don't make it seem like we're setting up an impossible task for ourselves.

    I don't know how you can say for sure what the writeups will or won't have.

    I am not suggesting that town should never yeet anyone in the phases to come. Isn't it just as likely that we will either get info from a writeup, or from someone sharing deets, than not?
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    Going off my role card and that he said he was trying to do a more traditional game prior to this game that only info we get from the write up is the death and then wait and see if people share info or make claims. I could be wrong and we won't know for sure until the first write up. So that makes me get on the yeet someone day 1 train instead of sleep train.
  42. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    The fact that ldg just said fone and self voted instead of throwing a fit like she usually does seems telling to me
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    That is what she tends to do though. Says fuck it or fine or whatever and self votes. She really hasn't thrown a fit that I can remember in a while.
  43. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    Well... the inactive person is in the game... but discussing the inactive person is distracting you from the game?

    Instead of saying how this is distracting, want to add anything else that isnt about this lone topic?
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    This seems to be the currently topic of discussion so going with it. Not like this is the only thing I have talked about this day phase.
  44. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    Lets say that LDG is hypothetically town that just adds 2 posts a day, but doesnt help solve or hinder scum in any way... Now scum will just cut out the active members of town, leaving us with fewer and fewer people that are actively engaging. An inactive town is basically scum, since they wont remove that person and that person isnt coming solving.
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    I understand this logic and this goes back to hoping the game runner takes care of the inactives by subs are getting rid of them early on before we get to this point.
  45. MTR

    kiss mafia

    3puppies said:
    Being overly hungry for a yeet on D1 where we don't have much info, usually results in a town loss.

    I don't mean to overly defend anyone for lack of activity. I just don't see enough value in a yeet yet.
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    Normally I am right there with you but I get the feeling we are not going to get the write ups that a lot of us are used to so I am okay with yeeting someone day one and trying to get what info we can from that flip and train analysis.
  46. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    This just screams "Im lazy" and LDG is on my scum team from you.

    Its the players job to solve the game. Not rely on the mod to have to come in and take actions. (for whatever reason)

    If people cant be active in the game and contribute, they shouldnt be signing up.

    Again, once the game has started, removing players DETRIMENTAL to to, is the games responsibility. Being inactive, hurts town.
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    I am lazy because I rather interact with the active people and get reads instead wasting time getting rid of a person not doing anything? Really? Come on. Do better. I am not disagreeing with you about if people are not going to be active then don't sign up and the frustration it causes. I also agree that it hurts town if they are not helping. However I am just going to focus on what I have in front of me and not get distracted by inactive players. I would rather scum hunt then just hand scum numbers by taking inactives out that are likely town and wasting a chance to take out a scum.

    All this discussion right here is distracting us from the actual game and is just as frustrating as people being inactive to me.
  47. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    I agree, its the mods place to handle, BEFORE the game. During the game, its the players. Modkills werent typically for activity, when they were used.
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    I don't think we should feel the need to take out inactive players. Again mod's job. If we waste time taking out inactive players that tend to be town we are just helping scum by not focusing on solving and getting reads on players. Again I understand the frustration because I get extremely frustrated as well and try to not let it get to me.

    If you guys want to take her out by all means. At least we get the flip but rather put focus elsewhere. We have this discussion all the time much like we have the day one discussion all the time. Lets just play and not worry about activity and let that get sorted out on its own later.
  48. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I understand the frustration of someone not active and maybe not doing actions but to me that is the mod's place to handle that. I don't want to knowingly take out a town person and help scum get the numbers they need if I can be trying to actively solve and maybe taking out a scum.
  49. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I am not a fan of this LDG train. I feel like she is town as she usually is and don't see the point of eliminating a known town. I guess we can get some info from the flip and the train but rather go another direction.

    I am willing to follow Pyscho for now and do a counter train on Satsu.

    Unvote:

    Vote: Satsu
  50. MTR

    kiss mafia

    You don't have to just give up.
  51. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    What about his walk to the ring?
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    Not as long as the Undertaker's
  52. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Choo Choo Thomas GIF
  53. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Dreyski said:
    They’re all over my websites.
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    Are they leaving crumbs though?
  54. MTR

    kiss mafia

    CWE said:
    Unvote: where ever my vote is
    Vote: Divasmurf
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    What do you have against cookies?
  55. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Nightingale said:
    I mean, he's either scum and yey - or he's town and then he can no longer say he's never been misyeeted. It's a win/win
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    I like that logic.
  56. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Starting to think my vote won't be moving.....
  57. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    I think maybe if we got a celebrity to main event Wrestlemania that’ll be beyter
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    :squint:
  58. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Dreyski said:
    Oh yeah, last game Future was the poison nurse who couldn't self-target. All bets are off :squint:
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    Yeah he has been town like 2 or 3 games in a row now. About time for him to rand scum. Maybe I should rethink moving my vote. :chin:
  59. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    Why have you already decided that your vote won't stay there?
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    At this point and time I don't really have reason to believe he is sus. Yet anyway....
  60. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    I wish we got vote counts though
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    I am sure we will get some.
  61. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Right now I am reading The Black Company by Glenn Cook. It's a fantasy novel but the gimmick is that it is about cutthroat mercenaries working for the dark lord trying to take over the world and crushing those pesky rebels. I actually started this book last year but lost interest, but I picked it back up last week because I have nothing else to do at work.
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    I need to get back to R. A. Salvatore and his Drizzt books. I am so far behind on them right now. Just been focused on reading up on other things that haven't really read any novels in a while.
  62. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I am not sure what to expect from write ups.
  63. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Satsu said:
    You feel like? What about me or claws? Arent we a good start?
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    I said this was a start. I have to vote Future at some point. Getting it out the way. Vote not staying there.

    I always feel like claws is a a good start then again after claws has fooled me hard a couple times I pretty much always think he is scum unless shown otherwise so I tend to not focus on him to much unless we know he is a caught scum or cleared town. I tunnel and admit it.

    As far as you go, haven't made up my mind. Then again haven't made up my mind on anyone at this point. The vote will change. Maybe not as much as Foxxi is changing hers but it will change.
  64. MTR

    kiss mafia

    I will agree that it is probably a good idea to yeet someone today the more I think about it and see the logic people are presenting. Normally I would not be in favor of it on day one but I think this is the way for this game at least.

    So therefore I feel like I at least have to start here.

    Vote: Future
  65. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    Im in the middle of the hercule poirot books by agatha christie and you wonder why im getting so good at solving bs
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    I have never read any Agatha Christie books. I should probably do that at some point
  66. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    I just read "Going Infinite" which chronicles the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Fried. At one point, he had potentially accumulated wealth faster than anyone living. A short time later, he was bankrupt and convicted.

    And so I must ask myself, who is riding high right now.....but unlikely to finish their story riding high. Whose story ends in disgrace and corruption?

    And also will Dreyski figure out his 33 hours is off?
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    Interesting read. I am have been reading mostly witchy/pagan stuff lately. Need to get back to catching up on some of my favorite authors though. Behind on some on some of them.
  67. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Why the fuck are we doing math? I am here to do mafia not math.
  68. MTR

    kiss mafia

    PsychoSoldier said:
    Hey nerds
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    nerds GIF
  69. MTR

    kiss mafia

    3puppies said:
    I haven't played in several months. I have kind of skimmed through some of the prior game threads.

    It does not feel like MTR to post anything serious on D1, and my first thought was that felt scummy. While I can see him intentionally trying to mix up his play style, consider me mildly suspicious of MTR.

    I am trying to understand the value of yeeting someone D1 at all. Putting prior game revenge aside, I get that after the fact, once a flip is known, we get train information, but I really don't see how we could determine if it's worth trading one of our precious town lives.
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    Even when shit posting all of day one I tend to get a couple serious posts in but yeah I don't completely shit post on day one anymore. It is a mix. Just depends on the game and what is going on day one.
  70. MTR

    kiss mafia

    ForgottenHold said:
    I see how it is
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    You know how it is.
  71. MTR

    kiss mafia

    gorillas dancing GIF
  72. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    No.
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    You do you I guess
  73. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Claws said:
    yawn
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    wake up
  74. MTR

    kiss mafia

    CWE said:
    You no :squint: at me.

    :squint:
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    :squint: :squint: :squint: :squint: :squint: :squint:
  75. MTR

    kiss mafia

    CWE said:
    Vote: MTR

    Highly scummy post.

    :sherlock:
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    So the one actual serious post I make triggers you. :squint:

    Got my eyes on you and Future for that matter because he is always scummy.
  76. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    More time for us to vote you off during a nap
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    I think I actually caught up on sleep the last few days. So good luck with that.
  77. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Hopefully I won't get sick during this game since I am coming off having covid. I hate getting thrown off being sick and then trying to play catch up.

    So on a serious note I am not against actually voting someone off day one even though I typically go sleep on day one. I am open minded and willing to listen if people get some reads on anyone.
  78. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Blind Ninja said:
    Voting off low activity people D1
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    So no shit posting and people screwing around and teasing voting someone before finally doing sleep? Lets see how well that works out.
  79. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Mazer said:
    So....Kiss Mafia.....What do you want to talk about?
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    Read any good books lately?
  80. MTR

    kiss mafia

    Nightingale said:
    Sup fuckers
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