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  1. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    And thanks @Nightingale for hosting, and sorry for the golf puns!
  2. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    GG scum, sorry I couldn't help as much I would have liked (missing two votes is pretty egregious, but in both cases I was otherwise engaged at hammer time)

    Bad luck town, when I saw our powers and game mechanics, I figured things would be tipped in our favour. The hidden action + rolestop combination may be a little broken. That said, we didn't want to use the cursed vig as there ws no guarantee we wouldn't be the victims, especially later game.
    And unlucky Future. Nailing all three remaining mafia members while facing a misyeet is quite the feat.

    Tensions sometimes boiled over in the game, but hopefully we all remember that's all it is in the end.
  3. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Although for those who haven’t voted @Dreyski @Claws

    When you’re finished reading, I would love your opinions
    So just so I understand correctly, Claws watched Listo last night and saw yourself, BN and Badger visit him. Listo died and we're pretty sure it wasn't poison.
    Remind me whose actions failed/succeeded? I know BN said his action was successful..
    For me, Badger has more town cred, but can't entirely rule him out either.

    And I'll need an updated vote count, I dont want to be accidentally yeeting the wrong person.
  4. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Badger and @Mazer while we’re waiting, thoughts on my earlier musings regarding how many bad guys we’re hunting?

    This post here @Tildey?

    I also believe we are hunting for 2 scum and a 3p. 👍

    I've never talked to.foxxi about it. But she and void talk. Role madness was typically assumed to be about a 30% non town ratio in our conversations.

    You could be right, but ive been defaulting to standard practices. Because I think to assume the most friendly ratio is to invite overconfidence.

    My two penn'orth, mentioned in intro/writeups

    Barnard von Spielberg

    Elsa von Spielberg
    Schultz Meistersson
    Otto von Goon
    Amelia Appleberry
    Pterry
    - 3pups
    Zara (came up as purple D2 writeup?)
    Damiano
    Shameen
    Shema
    - Morrison
    Hero - Listo
    Henry the Hermit - Val
    Pteresa - presumed to be Claws
    Bartender

    Baba Yaga
    Bats
    Eramus
    -MTR
    Bonehead
    Baba Yaga's hut
    (I'm inclined to think Nightingale made a mistake with the formatting here)

    Antwerp

    I've crossed out the ones that haven't appeared yet, and we've 11 town, 3 scum, 1 3p. Giving us 15.
  5. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    And we've still got a little over 24 hours remaining?
  6. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Have I read that right? Future 2 (Mazer, Badger)
    Tildey 0?
  7. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    If Badger's right about our 3p being a SK, that blows things wide open:
    I have you and Badger as town
    I'm townreading Mazer
    Xan & Future as potential 3p

    POE Tildey, BN. If there's 4 mafiosi (mafiosa?), upgrade one of the middle group. It would be wild if the entire house of MTR was scum, but the chances? By my flawed maths, 1 in 546.
    I'd like to revise a couple of my reads - I'm downgrading Badger to townreading, only because he's not confirmed. And Future is now POE.
    Not going to vote just yet while I check the count
  8. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    We could run a four man thunderdome...
    @Claws @Badger @Blind Ninja @ForgottenHold

    Who in your group would you vote for, and who, excluding yourself, would you not vote for?
  9. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I dislike Mazer's post but only because it interrupted my flow, so not a valid reason.
  10. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Unvote:
    All about that sweet gold
  11. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Unvote:
    Vote: Futurehold
  12. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Vote: Blind Ninja
  13. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I didn’t expect it either.

    Can you clarify how Listo là till being alive would have cleared you?
    According to his will, I was his target for N3. Assuming he had a more gold-expensive 'amp power', not unreasonable to imagine he could have had an x2 on any of his actions.
  14. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Whos in your poe
    If Badger's right about our 3p being a SK, that blows things wide open:
    I have you and Badger as town
    I'm townreading Mazer
    Xan & Future as potential 3p

    POE Tildey, BN. If there's 4 mafiosi (mafiosa?), upgrade one of the middle group. It would be wild if the entire house of MTR was scum, but the chances? By my flawed maths, 1 in 546.
  15. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Two cannibal/janitor kills - I didn't expect that in the game. I presume one is for our 3p. Shame Listo also went as I'd have been cleared.

    In my defence last day phase, Listo revealing having dees happened after I went to bed. I can screenshot if you want. Add in me doing the close-up shift the next day and getting home at 6pm, and the phase had ended (sooner than I would have liked, but reading back I understood)
    And I said what I said about MTR, and I stand by it. I just didn't know Listo had dees at that point.
  16. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    *Listo will remember this*
    That goes same for you. (except the parrotting Listo bit)
  17. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Quoted for posterity.
    Like I said, you'll have to convince me to vote him. I'm waiting.

    Unfortunately you're only willing to parrot Listo and vote 'because MTR lol' Give me something to work with!
  18. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Here's the morrison vote train

    8 - Morri: BN(346), listo(347), Insaner(349), Tildey(351), Badger(355), Claws(357), MTR(368), future(377)
    2 - Future: pups(68), Val(268)
    1 - Sleep: Mazer(375)
    1 - Listo: Drey(316)
    1 - Xanjori: CWE(205)

    Not Voting: Morrison, Xanjori(240)

    7 - Val: future(410), Insaner(991), Xan(1003), Badger(1008), BN(1079), Tildey(1121), Mazer(1122)
    1 - MTR: Listo(894)
    1 - Xan: Val(558)
    1 - Mazer: CWE(958)
    1 - Insaner: Claws(1097)

    Not currently Voting: Dreyski, MTR


    I thought it would be interesting to see who had 2 bad votes. It seems at least a possibility that there is at least one scum in there.

    Future is in a very unique position of starting the Val train (as he ever started a train that wasn't mtr?), and a late hammer on the morri train.

    Insaner is in an early position on both trains.

    Badger is hanging out in the middle. It could be seen as around the tipping point to get Val over, I guess. Again, meta read town.

    Blind Ninja is early morri (which in fairness is pretty much his day 1 default), and in a momentum building moment on Val.

    Tildey came in near the middle of Morri. I read as her as having good questions. She's smart though. I don't know how much the Val lynch was in doubt by the time she voted, with two no-voters and me still having not voted at that point.



    I'm a little worried that I want to town read future, because I felt bad for him being trapped in the Shark cage last game. But it's folly to ignore the tangible events. @MTR and @Tildey, what are your current future reads?
    I like this post, mainly becuase most of the work has been done for me. And when reads are difficult, and dees have not been forthcoming, vote patterns usually provide some clarity.
    I've talked before about the speed of the Morrison yeet, and six votes in 11 posts. I've seen something similar in the past scum jumped on a couple of errant votes and railroaded the last couple of day phases almost without competition to victory. As a non playing bystander, it was impressively synchronised. And I believe Tildey was one of the scum players that time.

    Vote: Tildey
  19. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Just going to check some ISOs
    Right, you're going to have to convince me to vote MTR because I don't see anything scummy in his posts today. I'll admit to emphathising a bit because as a dad, I too know the pull of a horizontal surface large enough to lie on.
  20. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger also knows if he pulls that ATE as a scum, like he did a much lesser version of 1 time, and for the next several games afterwards he will know no peace.
    Which game was this?
  21. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Just going to check some ISOs
  22. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    That was a bit of a non sequituer, I think my thought processes need more quiet time.
  23. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I RNG the numbers and the roles. It's not mathmatically impossible, but then it is just a phrase.
  24. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Down side, the 2nd word is 2 letters in the 7 2 2 4 3 4 3 5 and you forced "was"
    I did say it went awry.
  25. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I asked ChatGPT to try and decipher the code. It went a bit awry, but the final message made me laugh:

    ME: The game is social deduction, the relevant players are CWE and Insaner. CWE wrote a message beginning 'Insaner was' and then 7 2 2 4 3 4 3 5. The numbers relate to the number of letters in each word. What word could each number represent and make a complete sentence?

    CHATGPT: To decipher the message, we can assign each number to a word with that many letters. Here's the breakdown:
    • 7: Insaner
    • 2: was
    • 2: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 4: the
    • 3: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 4: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 3: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 5: ?? (Need to determine)
    Given the context, let's try to fill in the missing words:
    • 2: is likely "on" or "an"
    • 3: could be "red", "our", "top", etc.
    • 4: could be "team", "from", "with", etc.
    • 5: might be "their", "party", "among", etc.
    Now, let's form a sentence:
    "Insaner was on our team with their red party."
    This sentence seems plausible within the context of a social deduction game. However, without additional information or context, it's hard to confirm the accuracy of this interpretation.
  26. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well, it's a fair point. Morrison couldn't get yeeted quick enough but for some reason Val's been coasting through and posting very little of substance.
  27. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I know... Ive cut back to only drinking every other weekend. Back in my military days, I was drinking at least 4 nights a week and heavily on Fri/Sat. Needed to give my liver a break
    Sounds very much like my time in Ukraine. Certainly couldn't do that nowadays.
    Yeah I saw the score. Blackburn needs some wins in a bad way.
    I'd settle for a new owner/owners
  28. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    This is a hint. Which character sounds the most like a harry potter character.

    The answer was in front of me the whole time.
    Lord Valdemort?
  29. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Future's posts haven't pinged me yet this game, last contributions were him defending his position on the Morrison train.
    Val's posting is typically Val. NAI (but is probably town)
    In the absence of Void/Psycho/Nightingale, Mazer putting in the investigative hard yards now he's dropped his D1 gimmick.
  30. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    The lack of voting during this phase concerns me
    So you swiched your vote from Xan to BN because you felt the latter was egging the two of you on?
  31. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well I was talking generally, but on closer inspection it was Xan with the questionable phrasing.
  32. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    7 2 2 3 4 3 4 3 5

    Tracked by me and _ _ _ _ 3pups?
  33. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Apologies for the absence, at a football (soccer) match yesterday, 2 hours travel each way for a 0-0 draw and was completely zonked when I got home. Then over 300 posts to digest.

    Main takeaways:
    Insaner and Xan got a bit personal, but then cooled off on each other
    CWE is doubting his semi-dees
    CWE is channeling Jarrod with his riddle
    Badger thinks '5th and down' is an American Football term
  34. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    i cant handle hot weather i barely survive canada summer and mexico in their rainy season

    You’re sorted then.

    Sorry, I'll make more game related posts tomorrow my time.
  35. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    If you can handle the midges.
  36. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    What do you want from vacation? e.g. Cities or beaches?
  37. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    The speed of Morri's train worries me. Barely 30 posts between vote 1 and hammer. As 3 pups is confimrmed as town, is might be more constructive to look at the back end of the train.
  38. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    looking at the writeup, is Nightingale saying our Hero is not contributing in the thread?

    The only thing Amelia would find as I can work out is Shema's power or will (and a will wouldn't make sense given it's N1)

    Not sure what to make of the whole sheriff situation. Didn't put their action in?

    Henry seems like an investigative role - don't know if there's any dees there.

    From my experience, I think 3pups would have entered a mason chat if he'd found whoever was playing Pteresa, but I don't think we'll know until endgame. Unless Pteresa gained extra powers.

    Antwerp - possible 3p?
  39. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    “I think”

    This is exactly what I’m talking about. Regardless of this game or not, I just

    ”I think”

    This is exactly the type of thing I’m talking about. This isn’t even about this game anymore but I pour my heart out and people STILL think I’m scum.

    I won’t give up but do with me as you will but it feels like I could be run over by a train and people would still vote Badger because the train didn’t kill me. What do I have to do to prove without info?
    Think you misunderstood me - that was me townreading you - the 'I think' was even a backhanded compliment because on your day, you're a strong player and have pulled the wool over my eyes on more than one occasion. If I felt that badly about you, I'd have voted you.
  40. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger abandoning gimmick mid-phase pinged me, then he comes up with that big heartfelt post which (I think) he can't pull off as scum.

    Listo appearing as you say his name is an odd one. Is it like a Beetlejuice/Candyman thing where he appears if he gets voted?

    Vote: Listo
  41. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner - feeling much better about him, starting post 167 (less shitposting, more attempting to work things out and engage with different posters. Hope his Russian comment is sarcasm though.

    Xan - nothing of real content, but nothing excessively scummy either, mainly single sentences.

    MTR - I usually have a hard time reading him. post 40 flat out states what he is going to do, but I'm not sure where his final vote lies. Agree with Tildey about him being a little sassy this game. Like him talking about possible game mechanics (post 228)

    ForgottenHold - reads like Xan with a little more content. Says he has a read based off his role and then votes sleep (if it's a town read, why not say it and not say how you got it? If it's a scum read, why not vote that person and then rely on people to join the dots?)

    Tildey - Most comments are about MTR/Future votes, then a brief interaction with Claws. I like post 216, and she appears to be townreading future.

    From that list, towniest first:
    Insaner
    Tildey
    Future
    MTR
    Xan

    More to come...
  42. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Right. Up to date now.

    It’s more a Brit thing. Dreyski should get it lol.

    True Greek philosophy

    ISO time...
    Unvote:
  43. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Selected early reads:

    3Puppies - Towmish feeling - maybe it's the post content, but I don't think he's working with anyone else
    Badger
    BlindNinja
    Claws - Getting a town vibe
    CWE
    Futurehold
    Insaner
    Listo
    Mazer - D1 gimmick posting is very NAI
    Morrison
    MTR
    Tildey
    Val
    Xanjori

    I'll make time tomorrow to ISO Xan and Insaner, as well as the house of MTR - do they normally indulge in OMGUS, or is it only in the past couple of games?
    I'll also be likely placing my final vote within that group, so mainly as a placeholder:
    Vote: Insaner
  44. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Do traitors usually know if they can be recruited?
    Don't know how Nightingale usually uses the role, but as traitor last game, all I knew was the other members of the scum team. I couldn't be in chat with them and had no idea they didn't know about me.
  45. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    🎼
    He's scum every game,

    He's scum every gaaaaame,

    Oh poor Futurehold,

    He's scum every game.
  46. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    As the play slows down, let's listen in to the fans. As another rousing another rousing anthem fills the stands.


    Future, Future
    He loves Hook just like his pa
    Now he plays the mafia
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh - Future, hey

    Future, Future
    Came to us from St. Louis
    He's here to to figure out Foxxi
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh-Future, hey

    Future, Future
    Midwest born, loves wrestling lad
    Morri tried to kill his dad
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh-Future, hey
    I hate this post...but not for the reasons you might think.

  47. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Evening all

    I like this post becuase it shows 3pups has a basic grasp of the quest concept and is interested in picking up his gold this phase.
    EBWOP
    This leads me to believe he has a spicy role, but for good or evil, I cannot say.
  48. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mechanics:
    Night’s Shroud - No scum actions will show in story write ups, with the exception of successful kills, and a random number of town actions each night will be hidden. Additionally, the targets of scum actions will not be revealed on death.
    I'm wondering if this mechanic means a limited number of ON/EN roles, as it's going to be really frustrating if, for example, only two town actions are not hidden. I might not even bother trying to sheet this game.
  49. Dreyski

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Evening all
    See how I killed the "ask a question" and "quote a fellow user" prompts?
    I like this post becuase it shows 3pups has a basic grasp of the quest concept and is interested in picking up his gold this phase.
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