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  1. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Thanks for the game. That was fun.
  2. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I doubt it
    fear of death we are all gonna die GIF
  3. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    MTR spewing his teammates even as he is lolcatting
    not gonna happen annie murphy GIF by CBC
  4. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Drey

    Why you gunna murder me when i name your whole team?
    season 1 GIF by Twin Peaks on Showtime
  5. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I feel like I have been the paragon of civility in this game. Do others feel differently?
    Maybe. Maybe not

    Sesame Street Idk GIF
  6. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I like listo and badger so far i dislike mtr
    I love you too.
    Happy I Love You GIF by Warner Bros. Deutschland
  7. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Hmmm not sure if he’d be allowed to share that MTR.
    Fair point. He really can't share. Wasn't really asking him to either though. Just saying I am curious since he is wrong.
  8. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Really? Claws is the one person that I'm 100% on being town. He's the only read I have that I haven't questioned umpteen times.
    I have been completely convinced he was town when he was scum more than once so yeah I don't even try to read him anymore especially early in the game. I have stated this in like multiple games
  9. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Oh fuck this. I have deets on MTR.
    Curious what kind of info.

    Just getting back on line after work and starting to go back through things
  10. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Your guys reasonong behind not voting mtr is weak guys coasting so hard i dont have to buy gas
    You're reasoning for voting me is weak. I have been responding to questions and I have given reads. I don't have any info to share and I am struggling with this write up like a lot of people are. What more do you exactly want from me? Or are you just using listo starting a train on me to kill MTR because you like to kill the house every game?
  11. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Yeah it is not mathmatically impossible. I mean yeah you can look into probabilities but there is not a probability that says we can't all be town even in a game this small. Yes it is typically a mix anytime we play but I am pretty sure we have had all town games.
  12. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay. I am still reading Xan and Insaner as town.

    I am pretty sure one person on my train is scum. I have trouble reading claws as I have stated a lot because has fooled me too many times when I was convinced he was town and he was scum. Badger has seemed to have some opportunistic voting at times during these early phases. So not ready to vote one person of this train yet plus you guys would just call it OMGUS anyway. But if I get yeeted today look at these early votes.

    I am still kind of neutral on others until I can read and try to put more thoughts together.

    Not going to lie that the write ups are just making my head hurt and making it hard for me to try to get a feel for what is going on and I get that is the point of them to make it not easy to solve. Doesn't seem like we are getting much in the way of info either from people's results so definitely hard to snuff out the scum.
  13. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Its mathematically not possible
    I would like to see this break down. There are only three of us playing and even a small game there is a good chance we could all be town. I feel like there is a less chance of us more than one of us or all three of us being scum. I will say there is a good chance one is scum and two are town. But not thinking that currently. But is not mathematically impossible for us to all be town this game.

    When more of us playing that increases the chances of at least one of us being scum since there is more of us and that typically happens. There have been games when most of us are playing and hardly any of us were town. I think there was a game that lots of us were playing and only one was town.
  14. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I consider this a shit post
    :wtf: We have different definitions of shit posting.
  15. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I assume your house holds eventually gunna turn into a game of clue when you get fed up outting each other
    At the start of every game a lot of banter calling each other scum but as the game goes that dies down as we just try to play and solve the game.
  16. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    My mtr nap spreadsheet is cooking at home
    I totally want to see that sheet. :lol:
  17. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Its not nai your very much more into napping when your scum
    I don't think so. I could be wrong but I don't think so. So let me think about this game. I can only remember only napping once so far so guess that should tell you that I am town. :)

    Seriously though. Not scum and not a fan of the quick pile on that happened to start this phase just based on my vote on D1. Makes me feel like at least one of the three on me today is scum.
  18. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m also genuinely undecided if it’s a possibility all the House are town. Still getting a bit of paranoia there’s one but will wait and see how things go.
    with only 3 of us playing I feel that increases chance of us all being town which has happened and leaning that way currently
  19. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Maybe giving you guys a theme song will entice cooperation?

    I've already named the Asylum in your honor. What more can you expect of me?
    Lots of stuff. I will let you know. ;)

    I think I did give my reads while responding to stuff at this point. Losing track trying to catch up and respond and work.
  20. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay not done going through stuff but got to get shit done at work. Back with more and reads later.
  21. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?


    Hes lack or particpation leans scum

    Likely mtr wont post alot he will get caught by tildey or badger or mazer

    You just like to kill me every game even when we are scum together. You are biased. :lol:

    Any lack of participation over the weekend was just life. I went to wrestling shows both nights and then tried to squeeze in my normal weekly weekend chores in around that.

    When I get straight out caught I start to shit post.
  22. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Here's the morrison vote train

    8 - Morri: BN(346), listo(347), Insaner(349), Tildey(351), Badger(355), Claws(357), MTR(368), future(377)
    2 - Future: pups(68), Val(268)
    1 - Sleep: Mazer(375)
    1 - Listo: Drey(316)
    1 - Xanjori: CWE(205)

    Not Voting: Morrison, Xanjori(240)

    7 - Val: future(410), Insaner(991), Xan(1003), Badger(1008), BN(1079), Tildey(1121), Mazer(1122)
    1 - MTR: Listo(894)
    1 - Xan: Val(558)
    1 - Mazer: CWE(958)
    1 - Insaner: Claws(1097)

    Not currently Voting: Dreyski, MTR


    I thought it would be interesting to see who had 2 bad votes. It seems at least a possibility that there is at least one scum in there.

    Future is in a very unique position of starting the Val train (as he ever started a train that wasn't mtr?), and a late hammer on the morri train.

    Insaner is in an early position on both trains.

    Badger is hanging out in the middle. It could be seen as around the tipping point to get Val over, I guess. Again, meta read town.

    Blind Ninja is early morri (which in fairness is pretty much his day 1 default), and in a momentum building moment on Val.

    Tildey came in near the middle of Morri. I read as her as having good questions. She's smart though. I don't know how much the Val lynch was in doubt by the time she voted, with two no-voters and me still having not voted at that point.



    I'm a little worried that I want to town read future, because I felt bad for him being trapped in the Shark cage last game. But it's folly to ignore the tangible events. @MTR and @Tildey, what are your current future reads?
    I mean I guess I can see why the his voting looks bad but I think his late hammer on Morrison was just him trying to make sure we get the yeet off because of how late it was in the day much like me in the last game on day one. I am currently reading him as town despite my vote on him D1. That was just our normal banter
  23. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I have a brilliant idea.

    Why don't we ask Tildey and Future for their updated reads on MTR?
    Or how about anyone else? Everyone always wants to see what the other house members think of each other.

    Tildey and I are getting to the point it is hard to read each other and have both said so.
  24. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mtr is absolutly scum his post to #dadnaps ratio is a huge indicator
    :lol: What is the ratio when I am scum to when I am not? I nap a fucking lot. Feel like that is NAI
  25. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I'm just continuing what I said yesterday from his D1 vote spot.
    Not a fan of this vote and then people jumping on it rather quickly.

    I had said I didn't plan on sticking with my Future vote and was all for making sure we got a yeet off.

    My placement on the train was because I went a chunk of time off line and when I got back the votes had swung they way they had. Had I been online earlier I would have been on the train in an earlier place.

    Barking up the wrong tree.
  26. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Hmm I’m not sure what to make of CWE not flipping. What does everyone else think?
    Hate not getting a flip especially when there is not a ton of info going around. Guessing this was some sort of cannibal kill which I think others have already said as I did a quick scroll.
  27. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay. Sorry I was not around last night. Let me start working my way through things and responding to stuff and giving some thoughts along the way
  28. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I am too.
    Meh. I have given reads and try to solve stuff. Not post weird riddles
  29. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    im alright with an mtr yeet aswell
    Of course you are :rolleyes:
  30. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Apologies for the absence, at a football (soccer) match yesterday, 2 hours travel each way for a 0-0 draw and was completely zonked when I got home. Then over 300 posts to digest.

    Main takeaways:
    Insaner and Xan got a bit personal, but then cooled off on each other
    CWE is doubting his semi-dees
    CWE is channeling Jarrod with his riddle
    Badger thinks '5th and down' is an American Football term
    Yeah I saw the score. Blackburn needs some wins in a bad way.

    I am also playing catch up after the wrestling show last night. It was late and getting ready for night 2 which starts early afternoon.
  31. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Im trying to solve a world where you and Insaner are V. I wondered if you had TMI'd us there, but honestly I think your read makes sense and its probably massively in wolves benefit to push on either of us here.

    Say I put you and Insaner V, and then I move BN down and Tildey up, theyre in their own middle tier because clearly me and Insaner strongly disagree on her post.

    Town
    Badger
    CWE
    Future
    Insaner
    MTR


    Tildey
    BN

    POE
    Claws
    Drey
    Listo
    Mazer
    Val

    How does that look to you?
    Yeah I do worry about scum taking advantage of the back and forth you are having.

    So I tend to put claws and Tildey in the middle because I have gotten fooled by them both and I am bad about tunnelling so I tend to wait and see if anyone gets anything that really points a finger at them.

    I can get on board with the rest of your POE for now at least as we are still early in solving.
  32. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Honestly its a POE based on Im town clearing some, and working on others. I mean even this post you made here makes me feel a decent bit better about you
    Fair enough. I am don't quite have a POE yet as I am still working though some thoughts as I read though things again.
  33. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I think Future is town not worried about his last minute vote. He was trying to make sure we got the yeet in.

    Looks like we may have a 3p

    CWE town looks like some info that he is using to come up with his vote.

    Insaner and Xan both coming off town to me as well even if they are pointing fingers at each other but then I have to go back to what kind of info does CWE have that pointed him to Insaner. Only thing I don't like about them is that they both have me in their POE.
  34. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Hero is the vig who pussied out last night probably

    Or doesn't yet have the gold

    Amelia read like it could have been a watcher to me, but since there is no watcher claim it's probably some sort of coroner role

    Though Henry also reads similarly

    Actually Amelia might be town backup now that I think of it

    Sheriff might be some sort of dreamer role, like they get a name of random townie in their sleep or some shit

    Schultz and Otto's descriptions are too vague to say anything about 'em

    It sounds like Erasmus is the name of a mafia role that killed 3pups last night and Antwerp is a 3p

    I hope it's not 4 wolves otherwise the game is pretty hard
    I like this post and some of the others I have seen with thoughts on the write up since it is giving me fits.
  35. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I know the feeling, I will be tomorrow night. Likely loads of tequila
    I won't be but there will be tons of drunks in my neighborhood. Probably good thing I am going to another wrestling show tomorrow as well
  36. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Fifth and down, she gets yards and throws the ball to Psych who high on weed running from Spiderman scores the touch down! Jarrod kicks the field goal…….

    Okay I’ve only watch the Superbowl, indoor stuff and thought betting against Tom Brady was a good idea somehow.
    I am not sure if I want to laugh or shake my head or what at this statement. :lol:
  37. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @MTR
    Hows your reads feeling today?
    I am just now getting on to read things through. Been busy around the house. So going to try to respond to some stuff and get some reads going before I am out of pocket again because I am going to wrestling show tonight. So give me a few
  38. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I read it as more of a like medical examiner type role.
    I think we have had something similar in the past. So maybe we can get some helpful information
  39. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay. Yeah this is going to take some work to wrap my head around the write ups for this game.

    What the hell is a town motivating mason finder? Combo of roles based on his actions? In Void's Avatar game he called us stuff like that because we were all two characters and they had different roles.
  40. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Just now catching up. Migraine after work or I would have switched votes last night. Much like last game I am not a fan of taking out an inactive just because they are inactive right at the start. I know that Morrison gets migraines like me but I am pretty sure worse than me. So hopefully is okay. That being said I feel like we need to get a yeet off to get info so going to switch over.

    I don't have any more to really add at this point.

    Vote: Morrison
  41. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @MTR, what are your thoughts on either Mazer, Listo, or a Morrison vote
    I want to hear more from Listo and Morrison before I can really decide one way or the other.

    Hard to say about Mazer. His day 1 gimmick is NAI so hard to get a good read just yet.
  42. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I am more inclined to vote sleep than anywhere else, but I despite my own thoughts / preference on no yeet, I get the importance of getting vote information. I will follow you, but I don't love the idea of voting Insaner this early in the first game back in a while.
    I am not looking at voting Insaner and since we are not getting full write ups I would prefer to not vote sleep so not sure where I am going at this point.
  43. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    My vote is mostly a joke so I will be moving it just haven't really decided where to move it to.
  44. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    That was what I was trying to get at earlier - do we think the red team needs to do quests to get gold, in order for them to be able to act? Or, does only one of them need to complete a quest, to be able to get a night kill? I was hoping those of you who have played this quest variation before would have more insight than I do.

    Why wouldn't everyone be trying to at least look like they're attempting to complete a quest?

    Since I couldn't find anything about a quest variation of mafia when I googled it, can anyone say they've played something like this before? Are we ALL figuring this out as we go along? I am just going on the presumption that everyone else knows more about this than I do. I am not trying to specifically throw sus on the inactives, but I am more wondering what happens when the day ends. Will the mod will tell us whether we have earned the gold we need? Will we be told who else has earned gold, or will we have to figure that out?

    Then again, knowing that someone like Morrison has not posted, would mean that he won't have earned gold and therefore he will be cleared from any roles that do find their way into the limited write-up.
    I have not played anything like this so my guess is as good as yours. I am going to guess that scum might need gold to do actions but I have a feeling that no matter what they get to do their kill. I could be completely wrong however.

    I am going to assume that everyone will get told if they earned gold and where they stand on gold.

    I am not ready to throw sus on inactives yet but they will need to be active to earn gold and help town so the longer they are not active the more sus they may get if we think scum doesn't have to get gold. Again though we don't know one way or the other.
  45. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Meh, I’m still undecided. He’s been working to improve some of the tells I’ve pointed out to him so he’s not as easy of an early read for me as he used to be.
    I don't have any tells. :shifty:
  46. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m feeling a bit pinged by Listo’s absence as well. And I keep forgetting Morrison is even playing until I see someone post his name in their reads list.

    Given that we need to get gold to do actions, anyone being absent seems out of place.

    Speaking of quest assignments…
    Would you consider voting for Listo?
    I don't get too pinged at the beginning when either one of them are absent. Granted this is not a game to lurk a whole lot when people need to do quests to get gold to do their actions.
  47. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I wonder what dinners are like in their family when they are playing in a mafia game
    During any game any of us are playing lots of snide remarks about each other being scum and talking with their scum buddies thrown randomly into conversation. :lol:
  48. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Does anyone else think that Future is mafia here like he was in the previous game?
    On a serious note I don't think he is scum at this point and time. We just vote each other and give each other shit at the start of any game. You should see us around the house. I call everyone playing scum randomly through the day. :lol:
  49. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    🎼
    He's scum every game,

    He's scum every gaaaaame,

    Oh poor Futurehold,

    He's scum every game.
    I like this post. Mainly because it is true.

    This reminds me I need to learn some St. Louis City SC chants if I make it down to a game this season.
  50. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    As the play slows down, let's listen in to the fans. As another rousing another rousing anthem fills the stands.


    Future, Future
    He loves Hook just like his pa
    Now he plays the mafia
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh - Future, hey

    Future, Future
    Came to us from St. Louis
    He's here to to figure out Foxxi
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh-Future, hey

    Future, Future
    Midwest born, loves wrestling lad
    Morri tried to kill his dad
    Fuh-Fuh-Fuh-Future, hey
    World Cup Fans GIF by Storyful
  51. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I don't know what's going on between Future and his parents right now, but I love to see it
    Family love
  52. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    He does seem to have some extra sass this game, doesn’t he? :lol:
    I will show you sassy.

    Sassy Spn GIF
  53. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Quoting/Screenshotting/using anything provided by the moderator as evidence is forbidden.

    I am actually pleased that Nightengale clarified that rule change, as I probably would have claimed first chance I got.
    Just go ahead and tell us you are the cop. It will be fine.
  54. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Do you want me to vote for Future before you? Do you want to vote somewhere else first, presuming you have a similar 2 vote quest?
    Feel free to vote him now. I will vote later and then of course change later once we start to get serious around here.
  55. MTR

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I like the following people so far - at least I have no reason to dislike them yet:

    Living Players:
    3Puppies
    Badger
    BlindNinja
    Claws
    CWE
    Dreyski
    Futurehold
    Insaner
    Listo
    Mazer
    Morrison
    MTR
    Tildey
    Val
    Xanjori


    But I have to come up with someone I dislike - so it will be random.

    I don't feel great about MTR. Again, randomness.

    In the last game, I promised I would give my D1 vote to MTR to do what he wanted , as he bodyguarded me. So I will vote him, and will change it to wherever he wants me to go on D1.

    Vote: MTR

    That should get me to having two votes.


    Throwing out some random questions that anyone in particular could please reply to -

    With 15 players, do we expect 4 scum?

    Do we think there are any 3rd party?

    Are most of us vanilla like the last game?
    At first glance I just saw the vote and was like what did I do and then like I actually read the post.

    I mean I will probably vote Future but I will let him at least post first.
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