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  1. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    then end it by voting Pardon
  2. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon

    tying the vote
  3. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    From what I can tell MTRs action worked.
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    I don't understand your ability that well, so can you confirm that he did an action last night?
  4. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Well i have one idea, if Val flips town, to help us narrow down cult and win the game

    Vote: Unvote

    I want to get it out, so i'm going to delay a bit
  5. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Execute

    I hope you understand Val, even if you aren't cult, but Foxxi was right, we have to take down some town if we need to take down cult
  6. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    hm ok.

    let me work this out,

    I trust me, Morrison, and CWE, if Xan is right, i trust Xan, MTR, and Grae

    which puts it between Kareemah and Val

    Vote: Val
  7. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    And for my action last night I finally worked out that what I should do with my ability is follow the cop, to see if the cops result gets messed with. So I listened to Gossip about MTR.
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    And did it work?
  8. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    i think it should probably say 'night action.' the description does say '... the target of this ability,' which sounds like it needs to be chosen to use. it'd be a passive, otherwise.
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    idk, there are some other things labeled Active in the other channels, although it doesn't have a charge, still a good question to ask
  9. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Also Smite has weird wording (Night Active, Not Night Action) if it isn't a thing you use, then this could clear you.
  10. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    How did you get a read on Badger if Kareemah used wine on you?
  11. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I don't believe Val is it
  12. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I want to know what everyone did on n6 and last night
  13. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Before I make a decision. @Xanjori i would like to see your logbook if you don’t mind.
  14. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I want to see Xan’s logbook
  15. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    so the kill is unblockable, but what if someone tried to redirect you? like, you chose to jail foxxi d8. if someone targets you on n8 to redirect your actions to mtr, would you then find out your jailing mtr and have to go with it? or because the jail is a day action, it gets locked in during the day and can't be fucked with at night?
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    It gets locked in during the day, night actions have no effect on me
  16. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    I'd go after Kareemah. She's LDG 2.0, a new player people are too squeamish to pick on and thus gets to slide by to endgame with no scrutiny. Perfect target for recruitment.

    Vote: Kareemah
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    I realistically don’t think Foxxi would recruit Kareemah, too much of a wild card
  17. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Everyone is claimed but one of us is cult, we’ve got to get someone
  18. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Wait let me get the timestamp

    January 31st, 11:50 PM CST
  19. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    val is claiming wizard. if wizard converted, he becomes the ritualist, and has 4x night actions that either redirect or grant immunity to occupation. no way were those all used up, and i don't see a world where one of those doesn't get used on foxxi last night. the jail and execution went through, so if it was cult leader foxxi and ritualist val, i don't know what they had val do. maybe try and redirect cwe to someone, in case he uses his kill. but foxxi knows cwe doesn't lie, and cwe has said multiple times he's not using it and is playing true neutral, so she wouldn't be paranoid enough to make that decision.

    so yeah, i think i agree with you that val is town.

    i'm looking at everyone and the role they become if converted, and what actions they have, and see if i can cobble together how those actions might have been used the last few phases.

    butler and hunter both become invoker's, which again has a redirect night action and an occupy. again, i feel like one of these would have been used last night.

    that leaves xan and mtr.

    mtr becomes the seeker. at this point in the game, i don't know that the seeker's night actions are worth much. seeing who the prince is set to jail could be worth something, but if the cult leader is getting jailed, there's not exactly anything they can do to save them if the prince decides to execute.

    @FutureHold, when did you tell void you were going to jail foxxi? what's the timestamp?

    who is xan claiming? he says the info he's given could only come from the actions of one role, but i'm not putting it together.
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    My kill is unblockable, if I say kill, they die
  20. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I’m going to work through some logic here. Morrison, CWE, and I cannot be converted, and I don’t believe Morri is cult sided, and CWE is town siding, and I’m Prince.

    The last conversion was Night 6. So working through some logic.

    If MTR is scum and making up a read on Grae, Grae is town, if he is legit and got a read, Grae is town, in other words, Grae is town.

    Val has been acting town, they outed me when Foxxi knew me, and by using what I said, and this was after the potential recruitment night. So I think Val is town.

    Which leaves Xan, MTR, and Kareemah
  21. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Also if we are sus of Morrison, does Alchemist turn into a psycho king if elected?
  22. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    Yeah I think this sounds pretty sensible.

    Also is it at all possible Morrison started as cult? Because otherwise its Val or Kareemah imo? Literally everyone else has been cleared.
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    How are you cleared again?
  23. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    I wanted to look at who tried to de-rail the votes on Foxxi after MTR voted her. But its a bit of a mess. Satsu, Matt, Jarrod and Morrison all voted a way that wasnt Foxxi.
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    I want to believe MTR for handing results but now it's obvious Foxxi killed Jarrod to try and misynch Grae
  24. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    i can see Foxxi trying to recruit Kareemah n3 but getting occupied because Kareemah used concentrated wine, so she picked Badger the next night who also died that night.
  25. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Badger could've been recruited n4 when he was killed, meaning no recruit N3
  26. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    If it was to be MTR you think he'd have been recruited after he gave his results? Is there a timeline where that is possible?
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    I think recruited the same night, issue is that would Foxxi allow MTR to push her just a bit?
    my current timeline is this:
    N1: Foxxi
    N2: Foxxi was jailed
    N3: Badger
    N4: Badger killed (no one died that night, so that was weird)
    N5: Foxxi jailed
    N6: ???? possible recruit
    N7: kill
    N8: Foxxi jailed and executed
  27. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    ebwop him? them? forgot
  28. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    i doubt Val though, she has been using information I gave her
  29. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    I mean imo it has to be between Val and Kareemah. Can Morrison have started
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    Kareemah is too much of a wildcard, but I could see Val, but I also see MTR
  30. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Also MTR confirming that he got results, but even in Jail he was not there at all
  31. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Xanjori said:
    What was the deciding factor for you when you executed her btw?
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    When I realized she couldn't have been framed and while her line of logic ended up be half right, I didn't trust it. But the final nail in the coffin was knowing about Psycho and the circle of death n1 on Foxxi.
  32. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I didn't get anything useful out of Foxxi, she was defending herself till her last dying breath. My current FOS is MTR, he was a lot more vocal about Xan than he was about Foxxi, but Foxxi was pushing him until she died too, which I don't know if she would, but she also bled herself without knowing anyone could save her
  33. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    My current guess is there is 1 more cult. Foxxi was the N1 recruit, Badger was the N3 recruit, but I had Foxxi in jail on N5, and there is a cool down, so someone could've been recruited on N6, then we had kills the last night, and the cult couldn't do any recruiting or killing tonight because i had the cult leader in jail
  34. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Goodness gracious you put the same guy on trial TWO DAYS IN A ROW and you want to acquit him twice? Get your act together folks. Don't put people on trial unless you're going to execute them
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    Grae and Foxxi were tied when time ran out so it was randed. So we didn't put him on trial 2 days in a row, it was a bad roll. Also last time we voted someone out who we put on trial twice was LDG and she was town
  35. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: pardon

    If Graeham dies, we lose someone else.
  36. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    And why the fuck wasn't grae the jail target. I thought the whole point of backing off was so he could be jailed
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    I decided to have a nice chat with MTR, because I think in this case, Grae and Jarrod are both town.

    So after the brief but informative chat, I think you got converted.

    Vote: Foxxi
  37. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    so did cult use a double kill?
  38. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    If Day ends right now, there is a 50/50 chance that Grae and Satsu both go out, if Grae is the hunter, which i believe he is
  39. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    Unvote: unvote

    where's this coming from?
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    my jail ability is a day action, if i jail Graeham, and he dies, i don't jail anyone, I asked Void to make sure. Graeham imo has been acting town all day, and if he is the hunter then we shouldn't kill him
  40. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon

    Get off Graeham, also I can't save him by jailing him.
  41. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    I wasn't told I was bleeding until night began.
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    I wasn't talking about you
  42. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I don't think Satsu is it, Satsu is bleed immune, i mean they could've kept it after converting but i doubt it
  43. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    That was incredibly petty ngl
  44. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    MTR said:
    Foxxi is the way to go this time around. I am sure she will come up with something but Foxxi is the way to go.

    Vote: Foxxi
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    Is there a reason? Do you have more details?
  45. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Xanjori
    Someone who's been on my sus list for a bit, I just want to see how they react
  46. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon

    LDG is being LDG, seems genuine
  47. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Jarrod1983 said:
    I mean people are still being recruited right? How can you never be Cult if there is still recruiting going on?
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    Because I’m immune to conversions
  48. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: LDG
    Val is not the right move, if you’re drunk then I won’t vote you, I think LDG could’ve been converted.
  49. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Jarrod1983 said:
    Are we still cutting FutureHold slack? I still feel like he's up to no good. I might put Future, Kareemah and LDG on my shit list in no particular order.
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    You’re the only one who thinks I’m Cult. And I am not cult nor will I ever be cult.
  50. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Execute
  51. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Unvote: Xanjori

    Damn you Void
  52. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Xanjori

    this feels like an easy vote today
  53. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Execute
  54. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Listo

    I agree with everyone else, just not much content
  55. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Blind Ninja is also someone i wouldn't target first, I am not kidding when I mention MTR and Claws being up top on my kill list.
  56. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Jarrod1983 said:
    Vote: LemonDemonGirl

    If people have reason to believe you're up to no good then I will trust that.

    I'm glad people came to their senses and didn't vote me. It's the wrong choice.

    @FutureHold I don't like how people expressed their doubt that I am evil but you still vote me. I feel like I might have to pull a Andy and push you hard. Why are you voting for me again? Do you have the best of intentions here? I don't think so.
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    This one? I was at work all day and I didn't see it. I just didn't change my vote as LDG got fast tracked to a trial.
  57. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Jarrod1983 said:
    Maybe you should stop killing them.

    How come you ignored my question last phase. Why vote for me when people drove the vote away for good reason? You didn't have a reason then and have ignored it since. Reminds me of when Andy had you pegged and you'd sorta ignore it.

    Just on gut I don't have much trust for you currently.

    Vote: FutureHold
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    what question? Also Foxxi has been defending me all of last phase, Foxxi figured out who I am and I trust Foxxi. I am not the vote to go with
  58. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    maybe thats why people are still dying
  59. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I looked at the role cards, if BN was killed, he should've had it delayed, so he was probably killed a couple phases ago
  60. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon
    Foxxi, answer my whisper
  61. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Alright i'm back
  62. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I'll be busy for a while and won't be able to respond
  63. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    as for the others. Kareemah is very new and LDG is LDG, good targets but i doubt they are cult
  64. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    CWE said:
    Unvote: Psycho
    Vote: FutureHold
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    I have a very important role, voting me is not what you want to do
  65. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    PsychoSoldier said:
    In fact, why were you more concerned with defending yourself rather than discussing the other names I proposed? Especially since I didn't even vote you.
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    Why not?
  66. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Jarrod
  67. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    PsychoSoldier said:
    Future, Kareemah, or LDG. I think those are the votes we look at if we're trying to find a cult member

    Vote: LemonDemonGirl

    Misyeet ahoy!

    wolf GIF
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    I am not cult, the cult wishes they could have me around as cannon fodder
  68. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Kareemah said:
    Okay, I’m confused. Can you be paladin and a member of cult at the same time? Bc if the message said claws playing as cult leader was executed? And I was under the impression that he was pretending to be a paladin so he doesn’t get executed but when the majority voted to execute him, he basically laid out his what his plan had been and future and mtr still voted to pardon him
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    No, but I thought he was Paladin because it wouldn't be the first time he claimed cop or something when people pushed him, he got mod killed in mafia kart because MTR pushed him and Claws outed himself as SK
  69. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    He seemed genuine, Claws tends to get frustrated and say something stupid when cornered
  70. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    So we really have nobody to go off of this phase
  71. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Then we have to consider, is Morrison the good king, so far i am inclined to believe so
  72. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Claws mentioned Kareemah, do you think he was pulling a name out of a hat or a potential conversion?
  73. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I'm not sure what the starting cult is, but i would love it for the cult to be gone
  74. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon

    placeholder since everyone seems trigger happy
  75. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I would pick someone down in the middle, maybe MTR if he wasn't targeted heavily yesterday, or Claws
  76. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Jarrod

    Diva seems genuine
  77. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Unvote: Matthieu

    I really don't have anyone. So i'll put pressure on
    Vote: Divasmurf
  78. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Matthieu

    I'm with Foxxi, i'll even take a sleep vote
  79. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I'm not sure who I sus, I was sus of Lora but Lora is now dead, but i do want Morrison to speak a little more.
  80. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    i should say that the last message was sarcasm
  81. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Blind Ninja said:
    Its day 1... what do you expect? You knew coming in you'd likely be a target.

    You havent done anything to make me think you are town. But by the same token, dont have you as either scum faction
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    clearly he is fool then, and in his foolishness he restricted himself, and by using more foolishness he is trying to get himself executed, we cannot let that happen.
  82. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: Pardon

    I’m being merciful today, but I’m here to show MTR what will happen if he messes with the house again
  83. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    MTR and I are a little occupied but I expect a very good defense from MTR
  84. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Mazer said:
    How do you feel his alignment would be determined prior to trial?
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    if he says something stupid, i think we need to wait a couple days
  85. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Mazer said:
    Welcome:

    Some opening tips:
    Don't trust almost anyone
    MTR will probably try to kill you (it's how he maintains his position in the House of MTR)
    CWE never lies. Really.
    claws and badger are just filthy. Be wary.
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    Tildey is the true head of the house, MTR just can't overthrow her this game

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Two people trying to steer town away from the king already, hm....
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    That is some very interesting wording, we haven't had time to determine his alignment, why are we going for his head now?
  86. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I think everyone trying to overthrow Morrison should be looked at
  87. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    MTR said:
    Vote: Future
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    Very rude of you sir
  88. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Listo95 said:
    Can’t be the Illusionist. That’s the converted Mystic class.
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    Good catch
  89. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    MTR might've been hit by the Apostle, a cult role, so he won't confirm he got hit with a post restriction, but if he keeps it up, he won't get occupied.
    Or he got hit by the Illusionist, an unseen role, same deal
    Or he got hit by the Scorned, same deal but neutral, or even the fool

    I hate this game
  90. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Maybe there's a role that comes with a passive post restriction?
  91. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I'm not translating for you this time
  92. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Claws said:
    im not really understanding the vendetta from future towards me so ill just play that off as d1 bs
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    You know what you did
  93. ForgottenHold

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Vote: MTR

    Claws is next
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