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Alright, I was late on that.

Thanks for the game, it was definitely a tense one but I'd join one like this again! I was laughing at somehow surviving two trials.

Congratulations to everybody all around, really,.

morrison said:

@Matthieu looks like it's up to you if val gets executed.

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Yeah, fair enough. I was dumb and it took me longer than it should to work out that three votes on either side meant I was the deciding vote.

Vote: Pardon

I'll return the favour, since showed me the same courtesy when I was on trial. Hopefully this is the right move.

Yeah, CWE is being pretty consistent on that front. Enough so that I'm willing to put my wariness of third party roles aside in this game.

I'm leaning towards pardoning Val. I'll come back and do that after my workout if nobody else has done so but going to give people a bit more time to discuss things rather than rush into ending the trial.

I think I'm going to have to go with Val as well. Mostly on the basis that Val and I so rarely vote for each other and although Val did remove his vote for me, if he were recruited then Foxxi would be gunning for him to follow her lead. Court Wizard is also a role I could see Foxxi trying to recruit, especially if she were looking for someone avoiding direct attention.

Vote: Val

N1 - Bear Companion (Self Target)
N2 - Bear Companion (Self Target)
N3 - Hunter's Mark (Satsu & LDG)
N4 - Hunter's Mark (Kareemah & Foxxi)
N5 - Hunter's Mark (Foxxi & Matthieu)
N6 - No Action
N7 - No Action
N8 - No Action

Alright, so I went back and looked:

D1 - Foxxi whispered Listo, Listo whispered Foxxi
D2 - Foxxi whispered Badger, Badger whispered Foxxi
D3 - Foxxi whispered Listo, Listo whispered Foxxi, Foxxi whispered Future, Future whispered Foxxi
D4 - Future whispered Foxxi, Foxxi whispered Future
D5 - Foxxi whispered Future
D6 - Satsu whispered MTR, MTR whispered Satsu
D7 - Foxxi whispered Val, Val whispered Future, Future whispered Val, Kareemah whispered Future, Kareemah whispered Foxxi, Future whispered Kareemah, Foxxi whispered Kareemah
D8 - Morrison whispered Future, Future whispered Morrison, Morrison whispered MTR, Future whispered Morrison

Well, I just let out a sigh of relief seeing that flip. I kept going back and forth wondering what was going on for the past two day phases since I could see it going either way in regards to her alignment. I think I was on the right track in suggesting that Foxxi wasn't willing to gamble trying to convert or kill me at night - overthinking obscure scenarios is a common thing for scum Foxxi and would explain the attempt to get rid of me during a day phase even with the willingness to take herself out in the process.

It's worth looking back at exactly who Foxxi whispered throughout the game, since in hindsight it seems a lot of those players were third party or scum.

FoxxiMcLeod said:

Because come tomorrow morning what prevents either of us from having been converted? Just because we are town today doesn't mean we still will be tomorrow. And what method will anyone have to determine that?

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If it happens, it happens. It hasn't happened so far, though, has it?

You can also apply that logic to anyone who can be recruited. It's not about killing people who can be converted, it's about killing people who have been converted.

...but we don't need to kill two players to look elsewhere. That's my core point - and if you decide to hammer me and get eliminated as a consequence then what guarantee do you have in terms of others following your desired trajectory? It could very well end up with you looking on from the dead chat in frustration because the survivors are barking up the wrong tree.

Assuming you believe Kareemah to be telling the truth, in terms of locking me down at night, that takes the two of us out of the equation as being responsible for killing last night. Of the other players, then, who would you consider to be a likely candidate for the player who conducted the kill?

Come to think of it, another reason for not eliminating two players at once comes in the form of what the cult can do with converts. Vote's can be restricted and tampered with and if it's true that you were framed, Foxxi, is that not coming from the same role with the ability to manipulate votes...?

Not that anyone with manipulated votes can confirm that they're manipulated, of course but still.

...but if you're trying to get one step ahead, how is broadcasting your intent in the thread playing into that? The cult will just cheer on 1-2 blue dragon being eliminated since it plays into their win condition. They don't just win through converting people, they win through killing people and having people executed.

They'll adjust their plans no matter how this day phase goes.

CWE said:

Let me save cult the trouble, no. I'm not killing anyone. It would break my rule on neutrals.

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I'm not saying you would - just that it's a potential thing that could happen. Which plays into my earlier statement, why isn't Foxxi pointing that out? Usually Foxxi's pretty good at examining how everything could fit together. Instead we're just seeing a very specific 'what if' pushed at every turn with minimal deviation.

I'm saying this since you're one of the players I look to as someone who I can count on to examine things from different angles but you're not doing that this time around and so I'm having to do it - but then anything I say seems to just be going in one ear and out the other. If someone else weighs in with their thoughts and it doesn't align with your plan, you dismiss them as well.

So please stop looking at it through the perspective of eliminating me with execute and start actually playing to win. If you're not prepared to then by all means, pardon me and vote to execute yourself during the next day phase if you're so intent on throwing the game. Just please, please do not drag me down with you.

You're not being logical. You've done this before, Foxxi - you're a good player, but you're doing what I did to Voidkitten a while back. I was so convinced that Void was pulling some trickery that I pushed to eliminate him and it proved to be the wrong move and cost us the game.

It doesn't matter that it's a cult game - if you claim to be blue dragon, then there's no reason to deliberately off yourself. There's only eight players left, two of which die if we go with your plan. Which brings us to six players.

One of those is neutral - CWE - and wins through surviving to the end of the game. That brings us to five players.

Of those five, how many could be cult? What's the best scenario and the worst scenario?

Why do you repeatedly refuse to consider other angles? For example, I'm not saying he'll do it but Cult could easily communicate with CWE and give him a heads up to use his kill emerald potion ability to take someone out and ensure that blue dragon lose by being outnumbered. You recall, I hope, that time Listo screwed over town in the fae game a while back?

You're not removing a danger, you're throwing the game. If you're going to throw darts at the wall in the hope that something sticks then maybe you should be taking a more unconventional approach and...actually pushing one someone other than me. Which is something you've done all game for some strange reason.

You're overthinking it, Foxxi. There's really no need to focus on me to this degree and you're going to lead us to a loss by doing this, I guarantee it.

I haven't been recruited and this 'perfect recruit' scenario doesn't hold under scrutiny since it's the cult who stand to worry over my potential ability to kill them at night with WIFOM, not blue dragon.

If you want to commit suicide in the game then do it on your own, Foxxi. Propose yourself as the target during the next day phase but please don't throw the game because you're fixated on one extremely niche potential.

And in the event that you're scum, I'll admit this is just turning me off from playing these games for a while since throwing LDG and me under the bus like this isn't great.

Xanjori said:

And just didnt fancy voting at all at any point before that?

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I believe I put a vote out but unvoted before I headed out. I honestly didn't think I'd be put on trial two day phases in a row without a serious attempt to look elsewhere. Silly of me in hindsight but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't feeling burnout given how long this game has been going so far.

Xanjori said:

Matt why didnt you self-pres a vote onto Foxxi?

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I went out to a restaurant with friends.

Foxxi, if you want to be the person to hammer me why did you put me at L-1? You're usually more cautious and insistent on doing things carefully - and I kind of keep going back on forth on whether you're to be trusted or not on that basis.

It does feel like bait despite your words, hoping that someone might change their vote or cast one without looking at more recent posts.

Kareemah said:

What do u do when u visit people

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The visit ability is called hunter's mark and basically had me targeting two players. If player A attacked player B, then I'd eliminate player A. It had four charges, though Listo stole one when he was eliminated and none of my targets attacked the players I was defending.

My other night ability was bear companion, which prevented me being attacked or converted on the nights I used it. If someone attacked me, they'd be killed - and if cult think I'm lying about not having any charges left, it may explain why there's such a heavy push to get rid of me since they'd lose one of their own.

morrison said:

and if we pardon, we could lose someone to a recruit or up to two people to a kill during the night phase, mirroring the same thing we did last phase.

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The cult are going to recruit someone either way if they gain the opportunity. Surely I don't need to explain how it's worse if two players are eliminated before that happens?

We supposedly have two butlers who can target me to keep me locked down at night, no? If that makes people feel better, then do that. It's the better option over letting me die, take someone out with my passive and then give cult free reign.

Remember, Kareemah targeted me last night so I didn't visit anyone. (Not that I could, given all my abilities are now used up.)

Cult will likely win because of this fixation on me, since whoever gets the hammer on me is going to be eliminated as well so we'll be down another two players which is counterproductive to the blue dragon win condition. Not sure what the reluctance to look elsewhere is all about, either.

Would there really be two of the same role?

I think Val role claimed unless I'm misremembering? Didn't he say he was the court wizard?

Xanjori said:

Based on roles and the fact I keep getting RB'd at night then surely Kareemah or Matthieu has been converted to cult.

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If you and I were both occupied during the night phase, then that rules out at least four players who did not perform the double kill.

I'm not taking it personally, Foxxi, for what that's worth.

Unvote: Matthieu

I'll be busy for the next few hours but after that I'll be free to check in again. Not entirely against the plan to take us both out if we can't settle on an alternative option though I'm concerned that this is one of those situations where town need to simply take a leap of faith or end up being taken out one by one.

And no, this isn't me throwing - it's obvious that even if I survive this day phase it's just going to be a repeat of the exact same song and dance during the next. So by all means, get rid of the distraction and I'll consider it a win for myself to prove Foxxi wrong no matter which way the game ultimately goes.

I tried to point out, again and again, how tunnel vision and paranoia destroys town in cult games but too few were willing to listen to reason.

It's a cult game, absolutely anyone could be lying outside of those who can specifically prove that they are who they say they are.

I'm noticing a trend where people are deflecting attention away from themselves but then the moment anyone else proclaims that they are to be trusted they're told that, no, they absolutely have to be cult and there's no middle ground to be found.

For what it's worth, I had a plan in action early on and Foxxi pushing on me caused me to claim and ruin what I had in mind. So you know what? Go for it. Yeet me and I will take immense delight in watching Foxxi go down with the ship.

Unvote: Foxxi
Vote: Matthieu

FoxxiMcLeod said:

All it feels like you've done is show up to argue why we shouldn't yeet you. You didn't even begin offering thoughts or theorizing until your neck was on the line

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You've been out to get me from the start. You're the reason I claimed because - despite other players being quiet - you decided to single me out despite it not necessarily being alignment indicative for me to be quiet in a game. I've certainly been posting theories and thoughts and outright stating what night actions I used, though. Not just because I was at risk of elimination because I was trying to figure out what was going on.

You were willing to give Jarrod a free pass for being quiet and only speaking out when about to be eliminated so isn't even something consistent this game.

FoxxiMcLeod said:

Why on earth would he redirect something to himself??

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Maybe he thought someone was trustworthy and they had a beneficial action to redirect. He was wrong about my alignment so there's a good chance he's been wrong with other reads too.

FoxxiMcLeod said:

No. Just no. First if I were cult I would just ignore you. You're not doing anything and there are easier targets. Secondly people just died, so while morri could be cult - I don't think he is at all - he is not the reason this game hasn't ended.

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What have I not been doing?

Jarrod may have redirected something to himself, maybe?

Vote: Foxxi

I think you're too scared to kill me at night because you believe there could be WIFOM in play with my night action and you don't want to risk a cult member potentially being killed or failing to convert me and thus wasting a precious night action.

The other theory is that you're just tunnel visioning and offering to be the one to hammer me in such a situation accomplishes nothing but wiping out two members of the blue dragon at once.

Willing to switch to Morrison, though, since I do wonder if we perhaps did wipe the cult out early but the game is continuing simply because the king cannot be trusted.

FoxxiMcLeod said:

Maybe? CWE can kill too I think, but those are the only possibilities now if I'm not mistaken. Did you jail grae?

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No, I wasn't jailed. No chat was opened with me at least so I assume that to be the case.

Satsu seems to think Morrison is cult according to his log.

Don't be stupid, Satsu...

Satsu said:

There is at most one scum other than him and I doubt they would vote on him.

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Where are you getting that from and why are you quoting Xanjori's most recent post and completely ignoring the questions I posed to you earlier?

I'm not convinced we can afford another repeat of the LDG situation.

We supposedly have a Prince. If he distrusts me, can't he choose to execute me at night or am I thinking of a different role and ability combo? That'd at least prevent the person who hammers me dying and turning this into a two for one elimination.

Which is the main reason I'm arguing so fiercely against it.

Not really sure why I'm even a candidate for today other than deflection away from Jarrod, perhaps. Who should have been the focus after LDG proved to be the wrong move.

Kareemah said:

Who r these other players that u are suspicious of

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Jarrod's at the top of my list after re-reading how things went down yesterday. As someone who runs games as a mod, he has a tactical enough mind for someone to reach out to and recruit.

He hasn't really been trying to solve or contribute much by his own admission. He wasn't even around this day phase in any meaningful capacity as far as I can recall.

What's most damning is how he's getting a free pass. LDG was the wrong move. We know that now - we have proof by seeing LDG's alignment. Today should have absolutely been a case of prying deeper into Jarrod given that things switched rather abruptly from Jarrod to LDG.

Satsu and Foxxi share a weakness. They're good at the game but they allow themselves to get too caught up in their 'gut feels'. Neither of them are looking at this game from the perspective of a cult. Which worries me. Anybody can have been recruited but they cry foul if someone is suspicious of them and use that as a bludgeon to pursue anyone who so much as looks at them the wrong way.

Which is why I don't care for them offering to be the hammer and take the hit of my elimination ability - and let's see if they even bother to pay attention to the risks I've outlined in previous posts.

I could say more but to be honest Dead Space's remake came out and I'm eager to get back into playing that. I'll be around and able to respond when I can but anyone who votes on me without acknowledging what I've been saying should be treated as a threat and if the game doesn't end, they should be taken out.

morrison said:

i don't believe cwe has been whispered to.

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Perhaps he has, perhaps he hasn't. Either way he has been absent this day face - unless I missed a post or two - and is third party who wins with either faction so has no obligation to side with blue dragon.

morrison said:

that why did you offer it up as a play?

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That was before I looked at the overall picture and pieced together the claims/setup. Stuff I'd ordinarily look to more intelligent players to do but found to be strangely absent this time around. At that point I had also only really given the roles in play a cursory glance without really thinking much on the consequences of certain abilities.

Anyway, be suspicious of anyone who doesn't deign to respond to any of my recent posts - especially if they conveniently don't bother showing up until it's time to cast a vote in favour of executing me without any meaningful discussion or they give only a token examination of what I'm saying.

Offering to be the one to be the hammer isn't productive, either - for the reasons outlined in my post.

VoidKitten said:

They surrounded Matthieu. “Tell us why you shouldn’t have to go arm for arm with that gigantic creature of a man.”

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Can't I just seduce him for the plot twist of the century?

It isn't my intention to try and guilt trip anyone into not voting me, but cult are lurking in the background and not killing anybody yet which suggests they're biding their time and waiting to put a plan into action. If we go back and look at LDG's trial, so little of what was discussed was actually about the game itself in terms of what the cult could be doing and despite being wrong about LDG, we're seeing supposedly seasoned players doubling down in what I can only describe as undeserved arrogance.

I also overlooked it, but CWE is the alchemist, right?

He can win through surviving until the end of the game. He hasn't weighed in during this day phase and it could easily be that the cult struck a deal with him through whispers in order to tell him that they'll leave him alone if he leaves them alone. A risky gamble, but given that he's third party...he can't be relied upon. He'll side with any faction in order to win.

Again, nobody with me has brought this up and it's frustrating because I'm hardly the smartest player around and I really want this sort of thing to be taken into account.

At any rate, even if you don't plan to change your mind you still need to discuss. So do that, please. Don't just show up and vote then vanish again.

Satsu said:

Sorry Grea you are outed scum. Game over.

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Except I'm not and the game is only over if this is an attempt to eliminate two players at once by taking me out and having someone play the role of a sucker and 'sacrifice' themselves to be the hammer only to die as well.

Which would bring us from 11 players to 9 players. In case you haven't noticed, cult haven't been killing players - how many could be converted by this point? I think there's a cap of 4? Let's assume the worst, that the cult has reached the cap. 9 minus 4 equals 5 players.

The cult can kill two players at once at night, which brings it down to 3 players and that is game over.

So, yeah, none of you have commented anything along these lines. You haven't responded to my questions. You haven't discussed my night actions.

This is a pretty classic sign of just trying to pick easy targets (LDG and me) for an unjust elimination without ever truly being willing to look at different angles or discuss what is going on.

So I'm on trial. Actually discuss the game, please. Not this evasive nonsense.

Interesting timing for everybody to vanish after Kareemah and I listed our actions...

FoxxiMcLeod said:

......AtE from you is completely NAI - so you're not really giving me anything here that convinces me I'm wrong grae. Before you were all about accepting someone being sus if they were willing to accept the risk of your threat. Now you're trying to argue anything to avoid actually letting someone follow through with that. You're going to need to give me something else here if I'm wrong grae. Who do you suspect if it's not you?

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We're dealing with a cult, so the idea that people are town because they're saying and doing the 'right' things is pretty suspicious. Who are the cult more likely to recruit in your opinion? Players who are cleared or players who are suspicious and likely to be eliminated?

Another, perhaps more important question - why are you acting like someone deliberately being suspicious is worthy of elimination when for all you know I've been deliberately behaving this way?

I'm also curious as to why nobody has asked me what I've been doing at night.

N1 - Bear Companion (Self Target)
N2 - Bear Companion (Self Target)
N3 - Hunter's Mark - Satsu & LDG
N4 - Hunter's Mark - Kareemah & Foxxi
N5 - Hunter's Mark - Foxxi & Matthieu
N6 - N/A
D7 - Wolf Companion - Satsu

That being said, remember a few games back when you were convinced I wasn't worthy of trust, Foxxi, only for me to be entirely innocent? This is another repeat of that particular situation.

You also know how much I hate being eliminated early, so if I'm lying then everybody is free to off me early if I'm not telling the truth. That's how trustworthy I am in this game.

Better to waste it than use it on a wrong target.

Satsu said:

Come on Grea why didnt you pick Kareemah, she wanted to be a cult. Guess it can never go wrong with Val.

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I don't want to the one to go after the new player. The most I did on that front is mention early on that if I were cult, I'd recognise that a new player is likely a safe bet for an early recruit.

Now, we know that LDG wasn't recruited to the cult despite also generally surviving - and winning - recent games. So my guess is that it's experienced players who were recruited.

Unvote: Matthieu
Vote: Satsu

There's no hard feelings. I'm just baiting reactions.

Granted, you're making a mistake just like you did with LDG but it is what it is. The only question is whether it's a well meaning or purposeful mistake but as LDG outlined yesterday, you'll go 'OOPS MY BAD' and then rather than stop and think just go for the next easy target. Which, y'know, is exactly how a cult game is won.

Did you not read what I said? I should be the last player on my own train if I'm to be executed.

Unvote: Foxxi
Vote: Matthieu

Meh, whatever. Vote me then. Just let me be the hammer if you decide to execute to avoid the extra death.

Cult games aren't fun when people fall prey to paranoia and give certain players a free pass despite barely engaging but then the mob just randomly go after whoever happens to be in the firing line at the time.

Unvote: Foxxi
Vote: Foxxi

Unvote: Jarrod
Vote: Foxxi

I'm a man of my word, though. So I had to do it.

How are you feeling, Satsu? Need a bandage?

If Jarrod were trustworthy, he wouldn't use his ability so recklessly but anyone converted could easily fake results for their previous role knowing how it works.

We don't know how many people the cult have successfully recruited - or we do and I'm too dumb to work it out but hopefully someone else can figure out the potential. Either way, given that both Kareemah and myself can take out players with our role if we see fit then I'm thinking this is a case of 'please, please back off and just put the same blind trust in me that you're clearly putting into others for reasons I cannot comprehend'.

Unless you want to lose/can't be trusted.

If you're town, Foxxi, look elsewhere. Also why is nobody bringing up Jarrod, who was about to be put on trial before it suddenly shifted over to LDG who - as the observer - should have received far more reluctance to eliminate.

Cult haven't recruited or killed me because they don't want to gamble on being killed at night themselves. They've also quite clearly left me alive despite my claim in order to guarantee an extra elimination if they eliminate me.

So if I bleed someone and they're not healed in time and they're town aligned then that's three players gone.

After how things went down with LDG, it's pretty clear cult are sitting back and letting chaos reign.

Vote: Foxxi

Looking back, you repeatedly claimed to trust me but never attempted to whisper me. You did whisper players confirmed to be cult and third party, though. Moreover, in hindsight I think you would have backed off Listo rather urgently in order for town not to lose any charges for their abilities (which hurts the blue dragon faction far more than it hurts cult, from what I can tell).

First person to join Foxxi on voting me gets bled, by the way.

Unvote: Pardon
Vote: Execute

Don't feel great about the sudden shift away from Jarrod, wouldn't surprise me if both are innocent and this is just a classic case of town versus town.

Jarrod1983 said:

It's so weird to claim. This might be the 2nd game I've been allowed to and I pretty much have been playing like it's not allowed because that's what I'm used to.

Sorry I've missed other claims, am I allowed to just say I am so and so straight up?

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You missed people's claims but decided to make use of ability altering night moves? Did you just pick targets at random?

Jarrod1983 said:

Vote: Graeham

If it's between us then I will put my vote there. I am 100% not the one who should be receiving votes.

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I can appreciate not being able to check in frequently but it isn't unreasonable for someone to raise an eyebrow when someone called out immediately pops up.

That being said, voting on me isn't going to accomplish anything for the reasons I outlined earlier. My passive ensures that I take someone out with me which isn't great but also one of the reasons why I claimed in the first place. Anyone who wants to eliminate me should, at the very least, be willing to be the hammer.

That being said, my vote can go anywhere. Same with my bleed. Convince me. Whisper me. Do something to help us break through this predicament since we absolutely need to pick correctly and eliminate a cult aligned player this day phase. The best scenario is that only one is around, the worst scenario is...we eliminate the wrong target and there's more than one.

We need a name for 'player is quiet but almost immediately shows up after being mentioned'.

How about 'The Listo Effect'?

Satsu said:

Did you random too Grae?

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No, though Jarrod's a good target. He's someone I'd expect to weigh in more and try to push for things to happen.

Doesn't really matter much now but if Badger thought the reaper was between Psycho, Xan and Satsu then the latter two likely weren't recruited before Psycho's demise. Of course, that could have changed during the latest night phase...

That being said, if the cult aren't killing then they're obviously recruiting so anyone who has claimed but not yet perished is fair game. I'd say including myself but I come with the 'oops lol' problem of taking someone out with me if I'm eliminated which makes it tricky. So either take me out now and mitigate it with someone you don't mind losing alongside me serving as the hammer...or place your trust in me.

I won't lie, I have absolutely no idea where to go unless we reckon LDG was recruited. I know if I were cult, I'd be trying to kill or convert a role who can look into what's going on at night.

I'm not sure if it'd play into things, though I defended myself on N1. So anyone with hostile intent deflected to me would have been killed by me. I'd assume the flavour text would involve a bear, though, if that was what happened.

FoxxiMcLeod said:

This is awful logic grae XD you offering to bleed someone proves nothing. If you were converted N1 then you are the cult leader - who could back this offer up - or you are an invoker.... and have a cult leader who can bleed someone to make your claim seem true.

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Fair enough.

At any rate I'm hoping I get night killed so I don't have to try and work out who is cult and who isn't..

Vote: Execute

morrison said:

either claws saying 'fuck it' after being targeted or the hunter decided to bleed foxxi.

mazer targetted foxxi n1. did he actually use eradicate, trying to kill foxxi and lora, but GOT GOT because of psycho's circle on foxxi? does that circle prevent foxxi's death if he was using eradicate? if not, she'd either need to be protected or death immune. her being a protection target n1 is reasonable.

if he was trying to recruit, either it failed and they got a rando, it failed and they got foxxi or it worked and they got foxxi. would psycho's circle kill mazer off and cancel the brainwash attempt?

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I didn't target Foxxi with a bleed and I can prove it, if need be, since I have a charge left. Which has the added benefit of also proving that I haven't been converted to the cult.

Vote: Psycho

Kind of interested to see where this goes, honestly.

Nobody has whispered me yet.

MTR said:

Did Badger get reapped?

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I hope not, though it's looking likely.

How do we know that to be the case, though?

The game could very well end if we find the reaper - assuming we did get lucky and deal with the cult at the start of the game - and if that's the case then it's beneficial for the reaper to bide their time and play people against each other with paranoia over being recruited.

So where do we go? Just a random shot in the dark?

I'm going to wait for Xanjori to weigh in first before casting a vote.

Listo95 said:

Mistakes are being made!

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How so?

As I see it, if you're telling the truth then that's unfortunate but your name has come up enough as 'suspicious' for it to make sense to get rid of you.

If you're the fool, then again that's unfortunate but your goal is to be eliminated so you should be happy.

If you're scum, you're likely not going to want to be eliminated but could be leaning subtly into trying to make people think you're the fool as a last ditch effort to get people to back off.

EBWOP

I'd be more inclined to believe that the cult would seek to recruit someone who is better at planning.

If we're concerned that the cult still exists, then it's possible that anybody has been converted. Though to convert me to the cult, there's a greater degree of WIFOM involved given that any potential cult members surviving would have to gamble that hit me on a night phase when I'm not defending myself against killing and conversion. Which, assuming that a hypothetical cult member still exists seems rather risky to me. Better to go with a safer recruitment option in that case, no?

Vote: Satsu

For pressure, then.

Satsu said:

Really? Is there a role that could read my logbook?

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As far as I'm aware, no.

Use your logbooks, people.

LemonDemonGirl said:

At this point, nothing I say or do can keep me alive.

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We've already seen a player pardoned whilst on trial, though...

You're allowed to claim your role in this game, LDG. If you don't feel comfortable claiming in the thread, then you can send someone you trust a whisper letting them know your role.

I'm surprised nobody picked up on the real reason why I claimed.

For starters, people are going to think twice about pushing me during the day phases since if they're wrong my passive ensures that I take someone with me - and I could readily question why someone so insistent that I'm to be distrusted is also unwilling to serve as the hammer.

At night, I have <REDACTED> charges of an ability that prevents me from being killed or converted. Which even accounting for WIFOM, means that scum are likely to leave me alone.

Even if someone happens to think I'm lying, for whatever reason, the chance that we have some sort of tracking or investigation role in play who could catch me out is very high and there's the ability for players to whisper each other which means that even if they don't reveal such a lie within the thread itself they can let someone they trust know without revealing their role.

You can claim in this game, though it might be better to use a whisper to inform someone you trust as to what your role is rather than broadcast it to the game as a whole.

Listo95 said:

Matthieu - unsure

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