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  1. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Nice to know I wasnt the only one with no idea how an ability worked.
  2. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Im very confused what happened around the night I got framed and investigated.
  3. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    @VoidKitten Can we get a summary of night actions?
  4. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I dont understand. Like we're going to lose this phase on it timing out, but it feels like nothing was discussed. Suddenly people think we should pardon Val, but Ive not seen a reason given as to why. So what is the play here?
  5. Xanjori

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    Im so confused, we spent all day trying to compare mechanics and log books to come up with a suspect, we decided Val was our best choice and now we're going to pardon? Based on him offering no defence?
  6. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    so you got feedback that didn't indicate any block or redirect was used on mtr or you received no feedback at all, which means either nobody targeted him for anything, he was converted or he self-targeter?
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    Yeah I guess what I get is a "You didnt see anyone interact with this person." Which can mean no one interferred, he had nothing to interfere with, or I was blocked so therefore couldnt see anything.
  7. Xanjori

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    FutureHold said:
    I don't understand your ability that well, so can you confirm that he did an action last night?
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    No that I cannot confirm. I do not think he was blocked, or there was a roleswap or anything. IF my ability went through then it would confirm that MTR was not blocked or roleswapped or anything else. It doesnt tell me if he did an action, or if he succeeded in an action.
    Look honestly Ive spent all game trying to understand my action, I cannot gaurentee information. I can tell you who I used it on and thats all I can promise. Although it did tell me I was targetted by the drunk on N3 at least.
  8. Xanjori

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    Vote: Execute
  9. Xanjori

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    FutureHold said:
    And did it work?
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    From what I can tell MTRs action worked.
  10. Xanjori

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    And for my action last night I finally worked out that what I should do with my ability is follow the cop, to see if the cops result gets messed with. So I listened to Gossip about MTR.
  11. Xanjori

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    Logbook
    I dont know I know stuff. N2 I was blocked. I got drunked N3. Kareemah's action failed N4. Badger and Foxxi know something about each other. Foxxi's early whispers make her seem clean. Vals night actions were not interfered with N5 and N6
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    That is my log book as its written. I also know the whispers from Day 1 and uh...day 4 or 5, honestly trying to work it out.
  12. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Honestly at this point I feel its between Val and Morrison.

    Vote: Val

    I honestly think Foxxi was trying to deflect from/defend Val yesterday.
  13. Xanjori

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    Kareemah said:
    So we have to look at someone else and hopefully no one dies tonight, prince should jail Foxxi or someone we’re suspicious of and I know for sure me and future are town
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    Like this, it looks real good for Kareemah unless Foxxi felt that she was already dead.
  14. Xanjori

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    Kareemah said:
    Guys I just forgot, Matthew could not have killed anyone last night, I served him wine last night
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    Like this one. Its so odd.

    But then I look at the posts around this and it does seem that Foxxi and Kareemah werent on the same wave length.
  15. Xanjori

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    morrison said:
    if she can coach them up, i don't know too many people foxxi wouldn't take, tbh

    foxxi did claim second butler, too. was that to create distance or to put attention on her?
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    Im wondering that too. Like maybe they both were just butlers, its so much Wifom. Part of me thinks Foxxi claimed it because then if she dies we'd think "Well Kareemah is the real butler." but at the same time some of Kareemahs comments have me really wondering.
  16. Xanjori

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    If I was converted and I already knew that MTR was our investigation why wouldnt I have framed anyone?
  17. Xanjori

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    Im honestly weirded out no one has put the name to my role. Im the noble.
  18. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Besides, I know Im innocent. So for me Im cleared.
  19. Xanjori

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    FutureHold said:
    How are you cleared again?
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    Ive got an innocent and literally spent the last few days trying to argue with Foxxi.
  20. Xanjori

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    FutureHold said:
    I want to believe MTR for handing results but now it's obvious Foxxi killed Jarrod to try and misynch Grae
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    Yeah I think this sounds pretty sensible.

    Also is it at all possible Morrison started as cult? Because otherwise its Val or Kareemah imo? Literally everyone else has been cleared.
  21. Xanjori

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    I wanted to look at who tried to de-rail the votes on Foxxi after MTR voted her. But its a bit of a mess. Satsu, Matt, Jarrod and Morrison all voted a way that wasnt Foxxi.
  22. Xanjori

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    MTR said:
    I was not recruited. I gave my results and then I was jailed the next night so no results and then I gave my results from last night earlier. If I was recruited why give my results throwing a cult team mate under the bus?
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    I mean you have to admit this sounds very similar to Foxxis defence of "The cult bled me so it couldnt be me."
  23. Xanjori

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    If it was to be MTR you think he'd have been recruited after he gave his results? Is there a timeline where that is possible?
  24. Xanjori

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    I mean imo it has to be between Val and Kareemah. Can Morrison have started as cult?
  25. Xanjori

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    What was the deciding factor for you when you executed her btw?
  26. Xanjori

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    Ngl that flip really doesnt surprise me.
  27. Xanjori

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    From what I can tell, I think. Honestly my role has confused me a lot with how it works.
  28. Xanjori

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    I already told you who I targetted when I voted. Val has been free to act for two nights in a row.
  29. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    I'd thought that initially yes, but it's possible it was just a redirect- and in fact more likely I think. Since I don't think we have anyone left who's claimed a role that would convert to the apostle which has the frame ability.
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    Yes, yes I can do exactly that.
  30. Xanjori

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    And just didnt fancy voting at all at any point before that?
  31. Xanjori

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    Matt why didnt you self-pres a vote onto Foxxi?
  32. Xanjori

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    CWE said:
    That sounds like an extremely shitty Bodyguard.
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    Mate I once played a bodyguard where I died and the person I was protecting died. I dont think Ive ever been so angry at a mod before.
  33. Xanjori

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    While I know my own participation has hardly been stellar Im a bit annoyed/disappointed how EOD went yesterday. Like Im pretty certain we had people around that could have decided upon a train after we reviewed the mechanics but simply nothing happened. You're all scum, all of you! Im the last sane person in this town.
  34. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I did suggest that earlier that if we think RB or misdirect in play then Butler and Hunter both become those things.
  35. Xanjori

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    I wanna go to bed, so Id like to leave a vote that counts. I feel like people are ignoring how the plays can be made and thats just making me suspicious.
  36. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    No, mine is specific due to my class ability. I doubt his works the same way as mine at all.
  37. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    The Butler does that one. The Wizard becomes Ritualist who

    Teleportation (2x Night Action): You can target two players and cause all actions targeted at the two players to land on the other. You will be immune from occupying/redirecting yourself when using this ability. This cannot target the King.
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  38. Xanjori

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    morrison said:
    so the only way for any kind of framed result is if we have a neutral scorned OR we had a noble/second mystic that got converted into the apostle.

    for scorned, with how it reads, i believe they choose a target and that person, if an investigative ability is used on them, will come up with a different result than their true alignment. so the scorned would have targeted foxxi at some point, never took the mark off her, and mtr eventually targeted her to get a framed result.

    the apostle targets the player with the investigative ability and turns the result they're given into a frame job.
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    Like I outlined in my post a butler or Wizard can become The Invoker, who can
    "Strings of Mithras (2x Night Action): Redirect a player to another player (or themselves)."
  39. Xanjori

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    Matthieu said:
    Would there really be two of the same role?
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    I'd have a hard time seeing it.
  40. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    morrison said:
    i suspect some people took this reply you made towards listo claiming maid as your way of claiming it yourself. satsu said as much in the post directly after this gif.
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    Yeah but that wasnt me claiming. In fact the claims I made concerning Foxxi, and the stuff Ive claimed to be able to check could have only come from one class.
  41. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Also if I understand correctly. Foxxi is claiming that if MTR has a positive result on her it was due to her being swapped. For that to be the case it has to be from a converted Butler or Wizard no? So if Foxxi is adamant that thats the case, shouldnt we be voting the claimed Butler or Wizard?
  42. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Two people claiming butler? I find that unlikely.
  43. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Ive never once claimed maid.
  44. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Also there are only a few people we've not had roleclaims from correct? Val and Foxxi?
  45. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Nevermind Ive misunderstood part of my class mechanic. Still Val seems a good choice.
  46. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    I'm not sure I follow. What reason do we have to trust you right now, and why would someone blocking you be ridiculous? And if you think that kareemah or matthieu could be cult, why are you voting on me? And if you're suspicious of both myself and matthieu - again, why vote me instead of letting me go after another target you are suspect of? None of what you are saying is making any sense to me. And you aren't even considering you may not have been targeted, it could have been *who* you targeted.
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    Unvote:

    And Id know if my target was blocked, but either my targets are doing nothing (unlikely) are recruiting (I guess possible) then I am being blocked. If its the middle one

    Vote: Val
  47. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    And any town NBing me would be ridiculous.
  48. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    This is awful logic Xan. Clearly there is no possible way someone who is town could be suspect of you and blocking you.
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    Look at claimed actions and class claims and think again.
  49. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Based on roles and the fact I keep getting RB'd at night then surely Kareemah or Matthieu has been converted to cult.
  50. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Firstly I dont really get why your investigation didnt come to light yesterday. But also wondering if it was a scum play why go for Foxxi of all people, there are far easier targets. I think that there has to be something there though, or otherwise its just too confusing.

    Vote: Foxxi
  51. Xanjori

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    Vote: Execute
  52. Xanjori

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    I feel like Grae has said a lot of sensible things over the past couple of days, but at the same time the arguments he has made could also have easily been made by a scum too. Im more tempted to pardon than to execute. But then at the same time I think the LDG execute was ridiculous and town just shot itself in the foot for no reason, so why dont we just load the shotgun and blow off both feet?
  53. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Im looking at the votes and Im stuck in two minds. "Did he only get 3 votes because scum tried to force and this is just the result?" or "Did he get 3 votes because scum really avoided the train?"
  54. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Kareemah do you know if your actions succeeded or not?
  55. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Its rough because of recruitment. Like Id say Foxxi was very clearly pro town early game, but then her execute on LDG seemed extremely dodgy to me. I dunno why LDG was put on the chopping block, again, recruiting someone thats under heavy suspicion seems an entirely too risky play especially when cult got hit hard. They need experienced players that can keep them alive.

    Kareemah what did you do the night before last?
  56. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Morrisons post got me thinking. Foxxi what were you and Badger whispering about?
  57. Xanjori

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    Vote: Execute
  58. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    I still dont trust Psycho

    Vote: Psycho

    He just doesnt seem overly involved or solvy this game.
  59. Xanjori

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  60. Xanjori

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    I mean this is a stupid move, you're going to lynch me, Imma flip town, and then you're going to lynch MTR. Either he is town and you lose town, or we're trading 1 for 1 which he must have a good reason for.
  61. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    Reading the role cards and how I had a guess (I got it wrong based on technical error) at Foxxi and me being bussed yesterday should tell you what role I am. But I am not cult, which just means MTR is flailing desperately?
  62. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    PsychoSoldier said:
    Also, I feel like Jarrod's posts today have had more of that town!Jarrod fire I've come to expect from him.
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  63. Xanjori

    Mafia 1 - Throne of Suspicion

    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    Xan didn't behave partnered with Claws, and I still think his hasty accusation of me doesn't come from scum Xan. I could see Mazer maybe wanting Xan? Maaaaybe? But if he did pick Xan, I don't think he got him.
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  64. Xanjori

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  65. Xanjori

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    Listo95 said:
    Okay fine you got me. Just think of it like this instead. Who would Lora target n1? :D
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  66. Xanjori

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  67. Xanjori

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  68. Xanjori

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    Listo95 said:
    pfft as if im using my logbook.
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    season 6 dewey largo GIF
  69. Xanjori

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    Listo95 said:
    Well y’all wrong cause I’m the maid.
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    maid GIF
  70. Xanjori

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    Vote: Listo
  71. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    I really doubt Xan would have made that bad of an argument as scum. I'm much more sus of Listo who's shown all his trademark scum tells. He's posting enough that people are comfortable with calling him "active" - but the content of those posts is lacking. He only even offered any thoughts on the actual state of the game when I directly asked him to. Hasn't done any of his vote analysis. Do. Not. Like.
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  72. Xanjori

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    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Vote: Xanjori

    I'm unconvinced that wasn't a slip. Who knows if Xanjori is actually post restricted or if he is just shat up and was hoping we would think he is post restricted after he realized his screwup. If Xanjori flips scum then I'd take a look at Badger for suggesting the idea. Second guessing ourselves isn't going to get us anywhere.
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  73. Xanjori

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    PsychoSoldier said:
    Sorry guys, was with my partner after work all day yesterday and wasn't paying attention to my phone. I'll catch up and give some thoughts later.
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  74. Xanjori

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    CWE said:
    Vote: MTR
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  75. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    And ehhhhh... even the idea of getting results for himself, doesn't mean he and I were swapped. Someone could have just redirected him back at himself and he's assuming that means we were swapped. That actually seems highly likely. A drunk could have just made him target himself.
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  76. Xanjori

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  77. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    What even is this?
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    It was me reading through the abilities of each card to see who could do what happened last night. Because my role lets me know exactly what happened. I just put the wrong title to the ability. Surely you can work that out
  78. Xanjori

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    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    How could Blind Ninja - who flipped Chronomancer - use tornado if that is the court wizard's ability?
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    A good point, I just apparently skipped down a role card without realising. But who did it isnt important.
  79. Xanjori

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    Vote: Foxxi

    Im pretty certain that BN tornado'd me and Foxxi last night. If she was bleeding she'd have bled to death because the heal would have landed on me. I know this based on my own night action targeting me. I think she lied about the bleeding to try buy cred.
  80. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    Am mildly sus of BN and Xan - the first for seeming to establish himself fairly well in the last phase, and then feeling like he ghosted this one. The second because I would expect a lot more from him as town. But that's just based off the top of my head on gut feel.
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    Working nights while taking an exam during the day, hard to get properly involved.

    I think pardoning LDG is going to be the right call though.
  81. Xanjori

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    Two days two dead cult leaders, good job team.
  82. Xanjori

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    Sorry Claws, game over.

    Vote: Execute
  83. Xanjori

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    Claws said:
    I still wonder about mtr.
    i think i have listo figured
    grae claimed.
    Pretty sure i know what you are
    maybe diva xans pretty Weak too
    Future im unsure about
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    Why havent you left any breadcrumbs about your N1 check when making reads today then Claws?
  84. Xanjori

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    FutureHold said:
    I would pick someone down in the middle, maybe MTR if he wasn't targeted heavily yesterday, or Claws
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    Disagree strongly on it being Claws, I think Claws always has an unfortunate habit of drawing too much flak.
  85. Xanjori

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    Kareemah said:
    Vote: Xanjori
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    This feels a bit opportunistic.
  86. Xanjori

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    Kinda gotta agree that I dislike Claw's post asking why someone was defending Foxxi. I feel its pretty common that if being active in this game you will respond to questions, including highlighting information from another player. It feels like a super reach to make a big deal of it (atm at least.)
  87. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    Ah okay then. I didn't remember that, but we did have a couple of games on the previous attempts at our forums, so makes sense. You have any feelings on anyone to share yet?
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    Honestly Im working on it. So far I trust you slightly, was unsure on Listo. Psycho I have suspicions about.

    This is only my second time with this game mode, first time was a few years back.
  88. Xanjori

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    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Because I felt like it.
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    A little mean :(
  89. Xanjori

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    FoxxiMcLeod said:
    This is interesting? I know you suspected badger because he's someone you feel Mazer would be likely to recruit, but I don't think you've ever played with Xan before, and doubt this is someone you think Mazer would pick?
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    Im quite sure Ive played with CWE, the name is very familiar at least.
  90. Xanjori

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    Vote: Lora

    Im sure he wronged me last time I played this game mode.
  91. Xanjori

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    I had fully expected more posts. Just a warning Im on a weird work/sleep schedule but Ill try be active when I am here.

    Ive only played one of these games before, so Ill try catch up with exactly how to kill you all and win as we go along.

    Also extremely tempted to vote on the guy typing backwards just because its too much effort to read it.
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