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I only saw one marked for death announcement. Was it every time there was a no yeet?

GrumpyCat said:

Psycho Schizo and a Motion detector - the game.

I was worried that going for Matt and Val kills while leaving Psych Mazer and Claws in game will bite you in long run. But it worked, well played.

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We chose Matt and Val because both seemed less likely to contribute anything as a ghost. They usually do not comment much in dead chat, so I thought it meant they'd check out. We left Mazer because the longer he lives, the more suspicious I was planning to throw at him because he's usually an early target. Later, I had convinced myself, and I think I convinced MTR, that Mazer might have been the traitor.

GrumpyCat said:

Mazer said:

Sorry I didn't play. Was driving and a spark plug died. Pain in the ass day.

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Sorry to hear this. Did this mess up your coaching?

GrumpyCat said:

Lol I was thinking how to tell them Mazer is a joat that has a doc ability that he will use on himself. Kill Psycho instead.

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Mazer claimed vanilla. What role did you have other than traitor, to find this out?

Another question for Foxxi - why did CWE's flip also include a role, not just alignment?

Blind Ninja said:

Really people... you think CWE posting with emoticons is a restriction... you do realize thats how he plays 97% of the time

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I will always trust CWE. I threw out the idea of his being restricted because I wanted to softly add to the confusion. When he was yeeted and I didn't have to hammer - although I was prepared to - it presented an opportunity. First, it showed that Foxxi did not have an all-vanilla team - making my point about Pyscho trying to get folks to reveal their roles all the more suss. Second, I didn't (and still dont) understand why the kill attempt on Psycho did not go through. But everyone else had claimed vanilla town, so it would be sus if they claimed to have blocked.

So I came up with the idea of fake claiming jailor or JOAT. Looking up those roles, I saw the schizophrenic role and thought that would be more plausible for Foxxi to put in a game like this - leave a lot of it to chance. But MTR and I were both goons.

Good game by my partner MTR as well. I felt he was playing the same way he usually does, especially when there's not a fellow house member. And he talked me out of fake claiming cop the day before.

Psycho really had me worried. The only thing I could think to do about him was point out how in a prior game he'd talked himself out of a yeet when there was reason to sus him.

I appreciate the acknowledgement from Mazer. I figured I needed to be sus on him like he reminded me that I always am. It was only late last night I realized that town me would have to trust someone, so backing off of him late, and asking for his advice may have pocketed him.

Foxxi, thanks for hosting. This would have been really difficult for an almost all vanilla team. Two questions, if I may.
1. why did Psycho not die the night before? Did he have a BPV? Or were the kills partially randomized?
2. Did Grumpy know both MTR and I were bad boys, or did he know only one?

Claws said:

@PsychoSoldier were you jailed last night like a naughty boy

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Psycho has claimed vanilla. If he is not lying would he know?

I am trying to figure the possibilities

Unless someone was trying to kill him

One more long post tonight, I hinted that I had more to share earlier..

Mazer, I have come around to think I should believe you the most. The remaining town has to all agree on someone. I am thinking I find Claws a tiny bit more believable than the others, which would make MTR and Psycho the baddies. But Claws just said something nice about his believing me, and I don't want to be duped because of that.

My big problem with MTR is that his contributions haven't had the substance that the rest of you have. Claws is better this day phase, especially that Foxxi clarified we HAVE to get the right yeet today.

Here goes. Even if we are successful with the yeet tonight, I think I won't survive the night tonight, but this is too important not to share. I hinted enough to Psycho's question about who is or is not vanilla, because I am not vanilla. I am the schizophrenic. I target someone and the results are randomly chosen, from among no result 50%, jailor 25%, alignment cop 20%, or they might be killed 5%. I don't know what I am asking, and only find out in the morning. I have gotten no result before last night, when I targeted Psycho and I was told that he was jailed. There was no kill, so I don't know if I protected him or blocked him. If I blocked him, he was obviously scum. If I protected him, it has to be someone else. So definitely not enough to be 100.

I had no results on anyone else on other nights - I targeted Mazer and MTR, got "Your action provided no results." I have thought about this each night, and didn't want to reveal until I made up my mind, and see who defended him and who sussed him. But the weekend is here and I am not around much tomorrow.

Since I had been pushing Psycho, I am trying to objectively keep the part of me that just wants to feel vindicated away from my decision. I really don't want to feel that we had info that should have been read to take him out, and then to find out he's made fools of us yet again.

Thank you for reminding me that psycho has no fear, and my one vote, or the Grumpy/Val votes on him before they both died, would have meant nothing to how he plays.

But if Psycho is scum, his suggestion that we don't vote today is also really troubling to me. I tried to run the possibilities in my head and it wasn't making sense. His trying to get everyone to reveal their role bugs me, because I would have made myself an even clearer target. A big part of me was telling myself that jailing him saved my life last night, as he had probably figured out I had more than a vanilla role.

I'd like to hear from you and Claws about your thoughts on this. I'd ask MTR but I kind of suspect he'd say anyone but himself, and if I ask Psycho he will simply say I must have protected him. Both are possibilities.

I have re-read his posts and looked at his votes. I am probably missing a lot. I wish there was a bigger group in this game but since we are LYLO, I think I am inclined to suggest we go with Psycho, and hope for the best.

I won't submit my actual vote until tomorrow afternoon

PsychoSoldier said:

Yeah, I don't know

We could maybe see if we can No Lynch and force scum to do a kill and narrow down our pool some more.

I feel like I should reread the whole thread, but I'm not sure that will yield much

Im still thinking at least one in MTR/3pups/Claws, but which one? Beats me

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A few things about this -

First, this reads to me as a soft defense of your partner Mazer. That may be my paranoia.

Second, I am trying to understand your thinking. We are at 3-1-1 town/scum/traitor, but MyLo. A No Lynch and a scum kill at night makes it 2-1-1, which is parity game over, scum victory, or it makes it 3-1-0 if scum kills the traitor, and the game continues. We'd be looking at a 1 in 4 chance of the game even continuing with no lynch. If we MisYeet, we lose.

You have reminded me, though, that I don't have to decide who both scum are just yet. I just have to find one first. So in reality, we are at a 2 in 4 chance of losing right now by mis-yeeting.

I used to be a lot better at statistics, but I've been working on very little sleep for a few days now.

I would have posted right away but my wife has been having complications from her surgery last week. Rough day yesterday and last night for her, right now things are looking up. Good thoughts are appreciated, My daughter is bringing her to the 1 week follow up with her doctor.


I had to look up MyLo, which is Misyeet and Lose. With 5 of us left, that has to mean two of you are evil. We lose if we choose the wrong person.

I don't really trust any of you. But I am going to have to trust two of you, and we will have to agree.

I voted for Claws twice, and have been getting bad vibes from the beginning. I could be overly suspicious. But Claws is right that the ghosts have done us no favors, and right that we need to be careful about scum piling on for a quick hammer if we nominate a townie.

Psycho seemed too convinced that this was an all vanilla game, and switched to the CWE train to get a yeet. I recall how proud he seemed in a prior game that he talked his way out of a lynch when I started the train. While I do like his solving. I really didn't like his dismissal of my theory that there had to be an investigative role if there was a traitor, but moreso his attempt to get everyone to reveal their role. Very scummy vibe to me. Then again, his suggestion yesterday that we must yeet someone, even if it was him, felt genuine. Could my distrust be mostly because I was voting for him?

MTR feels like he's been sitting back, and solving very little. Same mild sus vibe I have with Claws. I have noticed that MTR pushes more on members of the house, but he has no family members playing in this game. He was the only non-voter early on the day Grumpy's train was short one vote of a lynch, and since Grumpy flipped green, it could have been an easy misyeet if he was evil. Someone - I think it was Claws - pointed out that scum may be content sitting back waiting for the mark of death.

And Mazer. I am always sus of him, and it gets stronger whenever he survives a few nights. He is a very smart player and becomes a target because of his solving ability when he is town. He has thrown shade on everyone. He pointed out something that pinged him about Claws. The fact that he seems to be soft protecting Psycho at the moment pings me. He's also made comments about the traitor mechanic that made me wonder and look things up. The traitor usually knows the scum identity, but the scum doesn't know the traitor. In bigger games where there are multiple scum, the traitor might know only one of them. Could Mazer have been sending signals that he was the traitor? Mazer not joining me on the Psycho train, nor joining Psycho on the Claws train, but instead starting the CWE train, does baffle me though.

I have to decide which of you two are working together.

I am guessing it comes down to maybe Claws/MTR, or Psycho/Mazer? ????

I do agree with Mazer when he said

"Fucking fuck fuck"

I have something else to add, but I want to see everyone's reaction to this first.

Mazer said:

This is a thoughtful post. My only caveat would be foxxi asked specifically if we wanted a vanilla game pre-game

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I must have missed that. If I saw that, I would have said no thanks, as I have spent several games on the side or in dead chat and I can't read anyone. Except CWE.

Psycho, you got close to talking me out of voting for you.

I have been wrong many times, far more often than not. But more than once I have been talked out of voting for a scum when I have voted for them.

But I also recognize that I will latch on to a theory, and because I thought of it, I don't want to let go until it's proven wrong.

I can't shake the idea that both Val and Grumpy voted for you.

Claws said:

IF we wanna talk accountibuility where was every1 before eod whole thread to myself mazer mad a the bears game only one to show up

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I am not available on weekends, due to my couponing. 'Twas a busy week. Occasionally I can make a late-night post.

PsychoSoldier said:

This isn't what I got from that rule announcement at all. I assumed she was just talking about the flip. So I don't think there are investigatives

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Interesting. First, I don't know if Foxxi would do this. I will concede that it is at least plausible. Second, you're basically asking for the Town Investigative role to identify and make themselves an easy target.

I still think, based on both Grumpy and Val voting for you, that our best chance

Vote: Psycho

I can't figure this out without writeups or any info. We know there is a traitor - which Foxxi says will always appear as town, so there has to be someone with investigative role. But nobody shared D2 about info on N1 - which I guess I can understand because sharing will make them a target.

We lost two last night. Grumpy and Val. Grumpy was the leading train and he flipped town. Val is also gone, and he flipped green as well. I am thinking that one was a mafia kill while the other was Foxxi's mark of death. But I can't help but notice that Grumpy was warning us about Psycho, and Val also voted for Psycho. So I am thinking that maybe one of them had the investigator role and may have found scum, but didn't want to out their role. If so, we are probably screwed.

Grumpy's death does tell me that CWE is probably not the investigator, or at least he hadn't found a bad guy. I don't think CWE would post the shrugs emoji so much if he knew for sure. But at least when CWE is town, he understands we need information. I am getting mostly positive vibes from him.

Mazer said:

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I guess its possible that gc could have been the traitor, but if he wasn't we are not in a place to hand out passes

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This pings me that you have info you're not sharing. Isn't it possible that ANY of Matt, Val, or Grumpy could have been the traitor? Why are you focused on gc only? And why are you still alive? You voted for GC as well, but so did Psycho and Claws.

@MTR - where are you? You've been pretty quiet, and sitting in the background, not solving makes it hard to figure you out. On the one hand, if you were scum you easily could have voted to take Grumpy out, as only one more vote was needed and you didn't vote. But like Claws said, were you just content to wait for the mark of death?

I am not going to vote early, as even though I am leaning Psycho, if there is a scum killer and a traitor left, I don't want to give them the chance to pile on quickly if I am wrong.

I don't read emoticons either. I am wondering if CWE was cursed, and can only speak in emoticons?

CWE said:

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I initially read this as "Get on the bandwagon, or get slapped. Be suspicious of everyone and let's try to solve this. Shrug and Cheers" which could mean he's not sure. Then again I don't know if this was sober CWE or his drunken alter-ego. If he's close, it's worth celebrating with a couple drinks.

then we got my

3puppies said:

CWE is the only one I will trust completely - he won't lie. I am trying to decide if CWE has info or if he is seeking info.

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Claws said:

Is this info or a hunch

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CWE said:

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Was this the direct response to the question about does CWE have info, or is this a hunch? This is what has me wondering if he's been cursed, but it could mean it's a only a guess.

@CWE, if you've been cursed, reply and ask for a couple drinks.
But, if you have info, then reply with the squint.
And if you're only on a hunch, then please reply with the shrug.

Claws, your repeating my question to CWE is not really solving, but it feels to me like you are trying to appear to be solving. Then again, your answer to Mazer's question about "marked for death" is helpful, but I don't see the relevance.

But that makes me wonder more about Mazer. This is just harder without any write-ups. You have my head spinning, in part because we recently rewatched Treasure Island, and the pirate's Black Spot is a part of the plot, the mark of death


I think I'd like to hear from Val the Moofia Boss, and/or the ghost of Matthieu, before automatically clearing Val


As for Grumpy, I guess I could go either way, depending on CWE's potential response.

Not sure I get a chance to reply again before EOD Sunday evening.