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GrumpyCat said:

Seriously I didn't know spy knows any of that ;p Makes more sense with MTR death now. it was so off.

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Yup, spy gets anything that is notated on the grimoire. They do not however get any info given that doesn't get notated onto that sheet. So for instance, Claws knew CWE was the drunk, but did not know what role I told CWE he was - since that isn't put there. If BN had someone other than claws, say you and NQM - Claws would know you and NQM were his two targets, but would not know if I'd told him "empath" or "chef"

3puppies said:

As townie, I put too much importance on trying NOT to share the info I had obtained / deduced, because I didn't want to make it obvious who should be targeted. Scum knew it already.

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This is generally speaking the correct thing to do. One of the tell tale signs of a spy existing is when players die off in an optimal or near optimal pattern, the info gathering roles, the monk... roles like the soldier or the ravenkeeper being avoided - even if they've actively tried to be targets.

It's hard to see that pattern though if all the roles and info it out on the table for everyone because then there's nothing that points at spy.

And it is important to try to figure out what minions are in play, because that will tell you things too. For example, if the baron has been in play here and you'd been able to discern that because of too many outsiders - plus see the pattern of deaths seeming to be too informed -- you'd then know there probably wasn't a poisoner, and that would mean info outside of a potential drunk was probably trustworthy, etc

GrumpyCat said:

I thought it was supposed to be designed around 12 players but with only 11 town outright started with a handicap.
Lets meet in the middle and say it was balanced ;p

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I thought this initally too - but realized that nope. It scales with player count. The online tool I found gives the break down for number of players and how many of each type there should be. This was the game's intended setup for 11 players

Typically when the game is played in person day lasts either until no one wants to nominate, or no one can nominate. If we did that here days would last like a week... so I tried to keep it in the time frames we are more familiar with. The issue I have with concurrent nominations though is it would make things a bit more confusing since people could vote yes or no on multiple trials at once. Keeping track of that could get awkward.

Mod MVP goes to Claws. He performed perfectly as a minion. A minion's job is to make sure the Demon doesn't get eliminated, and an element of that is drawing enough attention/suspicion that it distracts town from where they should be looking.

Honorary mention goes to Pups, if it had been thought on more about his observations about chats, I think town would have had this. If that had been combined with Grumpy knowing claws was very unlikely to be the demon - (Not impossible mind you, grumpy could have been poisoned two nights in a row, it happens. Especially if a poisoner catches on to someone being an info gathering role) - and NQM's info of one pair... it would have become fairly clear that one of listo/matt had to be the Demon.

3puppies said:

NQM, I hope your computer issues are all totally resolved. That must have sucked in the middle of all of this. I wish you would have nominated Listo yesterday - but even then, I don't know if we could have convinced enough others to vote him instead of you.

Foxxi, as for game tweaks, instead of blanket allowing multi-nominations at the same time, but to prevent scum from blocking nominations by running out the clock, perhaps you could allow another nomination once someone has enough to be yeeted.

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Still has issues... scum nominate someone people don't want to eliminate and unless people decide to yeet them just to re-open nominations, then it still just eats the clock.

GrumpyCat said:

Yeah I thought it only prevents actions and they dont have one except a passive.

Whitch would basically be auto win for town because they cant kill mayor and we had enough votes stored to get both listo and matt.
I must have forgotten to mention claws cant be a demon sorry for that.

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You had enough votes, but you did not have enough time. Even if BN had died instead of psych, you still were down to 4 living players. Kill anyone other than listo and now it's 3 - listo murders whoever is alive that isn't psych and it's two players and Demon wins.

Also it should be noted that the mayor says the kill MAY deflect. It is absolutely the moderator's choice. It's not a coin flip or whatever. Moderator decides what happens when a Mayor is attacked

Hell, if matthieu had decided to poison listo then there would have been no kill, lol

3puppies said:

And I was surprised that Psycho was able to be killed at night - the role doesn't indicate that a poisoner would affect him

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Any role is effected by poison/drunkeness. If a player is poisoned or drunk they have no actual role. The moderator will pretend they do however if it is necessary so they do not know they are poisoned/drunk.

CWE said:

Giving me the drunk...

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It was random, but it amused me so damn much XD

Tbf though, that would be mostly MTR having to see that, since it would be hard for anyone else to know he was what he claimed to be

Listo95 said:

I don’t believe he did. On D1 when he activated the chat with me he gave me what him and Matt were and that was about it.

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Nope. He gave you the spy info. Which is why MTR was the first to be killed.

Which should have been another hint there was a spy in the game imo. Sure, random kills can happen on the perfect target... but it's still suspicious when a high priority kill target dies immediately.

Claws got this at start of game

Claws also knew the safe roles, as that is part of the grimoire the spy is shown