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  1. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    GrumpyCat said:
    Dont we want to wait for Alysrazors fabled VCA?
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    They can provide it next phase. They'll have more to work with.

    I was already not exactly impressed with the off the cuff reads, even though they were admittedly asked for on the spot
  2. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    MasterChief said:
    Thats a pretty fair point. I dont wanna let the day end early if others wanna contribute.
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    I know I'm biased and maybe this is unfair, but we're in the last 8 hours and you're the last one we were waiting for. I think most people have said what they're gonna say.

    It's all good, if people wanna wait I'll be patient. But imo this is the most ideal situation to early vote considering the game state and the Listo mechanic, understood or not.
  3. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    MasterChief said:
    Vote: Peach
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    Honestly, at this point, the people that haven't voted are POE so fuck it
  4. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also, someone said that Medivh's voting record is NAI for them. I wholly disagree and think more often than not if they're voting scum, it's probably a better look. As long as they're not just straight bussing all game.

    But again, either way, I think more people need to be checking them in the night actions more often. Not just here.
  5. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sephiroth said:
    this is a solid suss list. i'm not saying let's roast, but still a bit curious on arc and a few.
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    I'm good with vetting Arc, too. I just don't want people targeting the usual suspects again unless it makes sense for their role and these are the people I think could use clarification since they're all mostly in the general poe
  6. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Rikishi said:
    I don't feel great about King Woods any longer, but mostly it was based on his two late switch votes to yeet townies. I can see your point that his posts feel kind of, well, forced/unnatural, but I can also read them as honest confusion.

    As for snake, I lean town for him.
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    Honestly, if Peach flips scum, I'm ok with XavierWoods for a while. I also kinda think his reaction to Sauron last night is more likely to come from frustrated town.
  7. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    What do you think of Peach, MasterChief? How about Alys?
  8. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    MasterChief said:
    Ok sorry Im finally here. RL has been kicking me in the nuts the last week but Ill try and be more active.

    Sora flipping who he did makes me want to sheep him a little. He died witha vote on Medivh but at the time I believe 3 players wanted to veto that, do those 3 players still believe Medivh should be completely off the table?
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    Not that I have a lot of room to talk, but Insaner was also pushing me hard and was the one who brought up Croissant, and then opted for Hades over a possible scum!Peach. So I'm not ready to just blindly sheep him on a player that is almost always NAI.

    I think Med is worth vetting, sure, but overall don't feel a strong reason to vote there and would rather someone just try to investigate them.

    As for Snake, I think the bus drive on N1 shows they tried to put him in the firing line of Listo since Applejack was a valid no-vote kill. I was a bit worried that he had fallen off this phase and was just floating on a Peach vote, but I felt better after he spoke up. It's possible it was some kind of cover, but it's really risky cover.
  9. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    To be fair, I think Listo has control over who he kills and probably has the choice to holster, so honestly I'm not worried about everyone getting a vote in before we hammer.
  10. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Vote: PrincessPeach

    Everyone but MasterChief has checked in. This is the only flip I'm really interested in today, and it seems like Peach has pretty much given up. So we can wait for MasterChief if you want, but I'm ready to get this over with.

    Let's try to look into Alys/Twin/Jack/Hulk/MasterChief overnight. Maybe Sauron or Medivh just to be sure.
  11. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sauron said:
    I’m not scum and if I can figure out how to navigate this formatting, I’ll hopefully be able to prove that. Anyway, I apologize fir my outburst but I’m just really frustrated.
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    Understandable. Which is why I'm trying to give you the room to breathe. If you have any other questions, I'm more than willing to try and help.
  12. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sauron, you won't die today, but there's still a good chance you're scum. So if you could just take the time to read what you can and chime in periodically as you do so, hopefully we can get a better read on you come next phase.
  13. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    XavierWoods said:
    Well... maybe you should read the game and stop trying to take the lazy way through. This kinda crap doesnt give me a good vibe about your slot. More then 4 days of time since you were subbed in and you still havent read the game. Instead of bitching and complaining about the formatting, or how to preview, or some other BS, READ the Game.
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    Let's take it down a couple notches
  14. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Sauron said:
    I read Peaches’ posts and I don’t have an opinion on her posts so far. You or someone said she lied about something. What did she lie about?
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    Check out Sephiroth's post here

    Sephiroth said:
    so she was pretty dramatic on saving croissant. as you can see on some of these. the post right above this is the logic AFTER the croissant flip. all about reads and stuff.

    weird call out. i don't think sora had amazing reads or anything, but i don't see where he was putting words in people's mouths. and it was already fruitless

    so this is very specifically worded. speaks to getting role info. but i can't see how that would work, and it doesn't seem to line up with the "i saw a defeated town vibe" from the other post i quoted. compare that one to this and to the "some town are more important than others" from d2. it just doesn't seem to vibe up. also peach seemed cool with town pressure until the end. which could line up with her "i saw a defeated town story" problem is she's also talking about info. and if you have info, you know that early. it's all too much speaking to whatever the pressure was at this point. and let me say it again. this move has been pulled with great success by scum recently without anyone calling them out on it.



    just some weird vibes too.
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    You should go to the actual post rather than reading this quote version, but she made a post implying she had info on Croissant (from her role), but the explanation given elsewhere had nothing to do with info.
  15. SubZero

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Arceus said:
    Seems pretty clear this is true with the whole Rock/Paper/Scissors game of doom. Add you to the trusted pile, too, I guess.

    Trusted:
    Subzero - scum targeted him with an investigative role on N1, seems to have been a target for a kill last night which may have been scum hidden as town action, may have been mind control, or may have been random weird shit, but whatever the case, it speaks well for him. Also by far the most active player that is pushing for solving things. If he's scum, then I'm Santa Claus.
    SolidSnake- Had the bus drive action with an inactive, suggesting they tried to get him accidentally killed by the inactivity kill. Also, was not saved from being lowest vote on D1, resulting in his death (though was resurrected later)
    Moana - Rock, paper, scissors of doom seems a pretty solid indicator that they're town, unless you wish to argue for scum throwing the match because of the apparent bullet proof vest had by the one issuing the challenge. Very risky kind of play, to waste a BPV, though.

    Trust-ish
    GrumpyCat - Actively posting. Mostly a carryover from previous impressions. Maybe deserving of another look, but I think there are better uses of time and energy.
    Bacon- General impressions are positive, but it's not a solid thing. Better choices out there for lynch.
    Rikishi- I'm getting a positive vibe here, but nothing substantial beyond impressions.

    Uncertain
    Sauron- Absentee replacing an absentee, yet doesn't die to listo's wrath. Curious.
    Arttheclown- Dead and stumped. Continues professing innocence, but of course he would regardless. Really would have like a flip rather than a ???
    Masterchief- I can say I remember he's posted...but I can't remember anything beyond that. I have no impressions of this player at all, which in some ways is awfully damning in its own right.
    Sephiroth- I can't recall much here. I swear he's posted, and I vaguely think there was something more than just fluff, but I can't remember.
    Xavier Woods- Had a bit of attention tossed his way early, I remember, though it faded away. Most of my memories of him involve defending himself from the Xavier haters.

    Distrust-ish
    PrincessPeach -Stalled train, big swing to save somebody without information could go either way and is perhaps non alignment indicative, not a lot of contributions outside of that one big swing is iffy. Nobody else seems to trust them, which might be shading my impressions at this point. I'm hesitant to throw my vote here because I feel like I'm being led down a dark alley by those saying "trust me, it'll all be fine".
    Medivh- Like with half the game or more, I think I know who the player is. Tends to always be the kind of suspicious and unhelpful vibe, regardless of role, but that doesn't change away from being unhelpful.
    HulkHogan- While I still enjoy the RP elements of his posts, I'm starting to get an impression of little contribution and being quick to jump on the bandwagons out there. Not a definitively damning opinion, but...

    Distrust
    Twintania -upgrading (or downgrading I suppose) from yesterday. Still don't trust, and going forward with it.
    JackSparrow - Same boat as Twintania.
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    Can you talk about why you have Twin and Jack so low? Feels like there's a lot of explanation for literally everything else, even if some is kind of vague
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