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  1. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Nightingale said:
    Because I am confident Miyamoto is a godfather role, and they cannot both be it.
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    I meant why they can't both be scum, not why they can't both be Miyamoto lol
  2. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Nightingale said:
    I'm still leaning MTR as Miyamoto I think.

    I was pinged by Tildey saying Badger's death made it look like wind's story had some credence - but then MTR did the exact same thing when he showed up. And I know one of these two has to be Miyamoto.

    So one is town that is just being misled by what they perceive, and the other is scum that is trying to protect wind.

    And Tildey had a couple of posts yesterday in sequence while talking to me that felt like genuinely trying to solve actions in a way scum wouldn't need to.
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    Why are you convinced it can't be both of them, if it's a scumteam of 5? Unpartnered, or just because my slot exists?
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Vote: Jarrod

    I have no real feelings on anyone alive right now, just probing
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    Probing the 3p?
  4. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Nightingale said:
    I am like 99% positive I understand what Drey is thinking now - I think he's drawing the wrong conclusion from it, but that can be proven with the right yeet today.

    One of MTR or Tildey is Miyamoto.
    I am 99% positive wind is a scum joat.

    Wind - which of Tildey or MTR would you prefer to yeet today and why?
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    Honestly, I haven't looked much at either one of them, aside from what they've said since I subbed in. They've both been active, though, and the timing of Tildey's jump to defend me as soon as Drey claimed info on me was a bit strange. And I kinda also disagree with her take that the Badger kill makes me look better.

    Sure, Matthieu was pushing his info as proof that Badger killed Mazer, which obviously did not turn out to be true, but I took the info as just info and not a redcheck (or purplecheck lol) and decided it wasn't really that big of a deal. Granted, I thought Badger seemed pretty earnest in insisting there must've been a mistake, and seeing Mazer in his logs still baffles me as to why he'd lie about it, unless he was unknowingly redirected. But anyway, I digress. As a wolf I'd probably want to kill someone I couldn't misyeet, so Badger dying is in no way clearing for me (and I know that most of you guys don't know my meta, so I am telling you xD)

    Vote: Tildey
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Nightingale said:
    Yes. Jarrod was a lightning rod N2, so all actions *should* have just hit him - including badger's which we see is true in Badger's will - he targeted jarrod N2. But that should also mean everyone else only targeted jarrod night 2, and in every will we have seen since we have both jarrod and badger. Everything that hit jarrod, also was copied onto badger because of his ability.

    And this is further supported by the fact one of the things that hit jarrod that night was a vote steal ability - which also ended up affecting badger. And he himself said that day he did not believe he was the original target of the vote steal - logically because he knew he'd targeted jarrod and would have copied anything that happened to him onto himself.
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    Ok, I think I get it now. Maybe Badger's role had a condition where he only duplicated non-killing roles onto himself, though? That's pretty much the only explanation I can think of.
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    WindwardAway said:
    I'm not really sure I follow the reasoning on why Badger would die with Mazer, maybe it's a mech thing that I missed?

    I told you Badger really did visit Mazer, though, lol
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    Wait nvm, I misread what you wrote. I thought you said that Badger copied his target's action, not that he copied the actions targeting his target. Are we sure that's how the duplicator works?
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Nightingale said:
    Badger's will is giving me questions... it shows that he did in fact target mazer N3, the night mazer died. But if Badger chose Mazer as a target, why didn't Badger die too?

    We know from events N2/D3 that Badger's duplicate copied actions from his target, onto himself. This is evidenced by the fact that Grumpy's, Mazer's, Future's and BN's wills all show both jarrod and badger for N2 - as well as the fact that jarrod and badger shared the vote loss D3.

    So if he copied the things used on his target onto himself - why didn't he die with Mazer? He could have been doc'd... but I kinda find him an odd and unlikely target for a doc after grumpy's yeet maybe? Not sure anyone would be worried he'd be killed after that?

    Which makes me kinda wonder if the scum have some kind of mind control thing where they forced Badger to kill Mazer. I'm mulling this over though because it was very clearly a red kill, it doesn't show badger's character, it shows Miyamoto as the killer. So the question then is how likely is an ability like that - and would it show the controlled character as the killer, or the person pulling the strings. I could see it being done either way honestly... but the fact badger didn't die with Mazer is curious.
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    I'm not really sure I follow the reasoning on why Badger would die with Mazer, maybe it's a mech thing that I missed?

    I told you Badger really did visit Mazer, though, lol
  8. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I think I know what Drey's info is
    And I think he's drawing a reasonable conclusion from it. He's correct I can't be cleared if there are two wolves remaining in the game, but I can't be a wolf if there's only one.
  9. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Vote: Jarrod1983
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    I actually have to sleep now, I guess my vote is spiritually on BN. Is voting mandatory? If so, I'll also place a throwaway vote.
  11. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    ...did everyone go quiet again?
  12. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    That's 5 votes on BN now
    I don't want to hammer early if people are still talking but I can hammer when everyone's ready
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    I guess the insinuation is that if a lone, unteamed town is being trained then there wouldn't be many people speaking on their behalf, but if it was a scum then you would have the other scum team members active trying to deflect away from their team member being lynched.
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    Yeah, this ^
  14. WindwardAway

    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Tildey said:
    Wagonomics? Not sure I’ve heard that one before? What’s it mean? 😂
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    Wagon movement or wagon state analysis
    In this case I think if there's a dogpile on BN and people are coming out of the woodwork to talk, he's prob just a wolf who has teammates trying to look productive while also trying to figure out how not to make him a wagon, pretty simple.

    Also I think his given reason on why he's voting MTR is stinky. Self-pres I can totally understand, but voting the other wagon and saying it's because the thread leader said she would consider voting there is just opportunistic assuming Night is town.
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    Mafia 9: Sega vs Nintendo - The Race for the Next Generation

    Blind Ninja said:
    Combination of the 2... and Night expressed interest in a vote there. So if something can shift, thats likely the only spot it can
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    I'm guessing Night is already townspewed or something cause she seems like exactly the type of slot to resolve on its own, nobody is really questioning her and even you, despite being in her PoE, are following her
    I don't see a point in splitting up wagons, though, so in all honesty I'm just going to vote where the majority of votes are to make sure there's plurality, and right now it's you.
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