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  1. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh, and screw you "Listo" for day killing me! I was gonna do a whole villainous meltdown thing of "how dare you try to kill your god!" when I was inevitably being lynched. You stole that from me!
  2. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Definitely need to have another anonymous mafia again in the future sometime.
  3. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    It was funny, as soon as I heard in deadchat that Foxxi's kill was randomized, my immediate comment was, "So what you're saying is Robo is scum?"
    That is funny. Also so very true. Not all the dice rolls were my fault, my role literally involved a dice roll whenever I used a non standard kill to see if I'd be able to act the next night or not. It was perhaps fate.
  4. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Okay, their is one way I can see us losing this: if we get more weird random kills like what happened with Grumpycat, and it hits nothing but town.
  5. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Double Hogan sounds like a cheesy 80/90's action movie, or a documentary about Hulk Hogan in cheesy action movies.
  6. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Nor did I, clearly.
  7. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Ultimately, it doesn't change the basis of what I was saying.
  8. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Numbers added up, names didn't. Just replace the HulkHogan in the secondary target category with Sauron. I'm tired and made a boo boo.
  9. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh, I see what I did. I'm dumb, I put HulkHogan twice.
  10. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    There's 2 mafia left, a jail keeper, a watcher/cop, and a doctor left with 10 players left alive. Two TPR's to block kills, plus a couple variations of investigation out there, we effectively can't lose this game unless we do so on purpose.

    Prime Lynch targets
    Masterchief was jailed, a kill attempt still went out. Clearly not Lora, but the other mafian was missing. He could be that one.
    HulkHogan if I recall was also jailed on a night that the second mafian was missing. Similar enough situation, though Moana said her spreadsheet very likely clears him.
    Bacon wasn't touched last night, and remains a candidate for either, I think.

    Secondary targets:
    Medivh
    Sephiroth
    HulkHogan

    The Unlikely target
    SolidSnake

    The No Ways
    Moana
    XavierWoods

    Those are all the players left, barring myself who I obviously don't want to lynch. Even with me added to the lynch targets, with so many powerful townies left, and the mafia seemingly running on empty, we could just start lynching one after another and we'd get it, either through preemptive semi-blind lynch or because the power roles clear enough people to be sure of who to lynch in a couple days.

    In that vein, I'm going to just start voting the highest crossover between my prime lynch target category and Moana's spreadsheet based candidates. That would be Bacon.

    For the sake of honesty, I would put myself in prime lynch target category if I were to put myself somewhere. Stepping out of myself for a moment, the logical thing to do as far as outside observer me is concerned is to lynch both Bacon and myself on consecutive days, unless one of us is cleared by a TPR.

    Vote: Bacon
  11. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    It's near the end of the day, and it's not going any other way.
    Vote: JackSparrow
  12. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also, Masterchief is part of the Moana spreadsheet suspects. So is Jacksparrow, and before anybody decides to try throwing it in my face, yes, I'm on the spreadsheet suspect list too.

    Now it is awfully late and I need sleep. Good night.
  13. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    My first instinct is still Jack. Human nature, perhaps, to not want to change your mind when you've declared that you don't trust somebody. Nobody's come forth saying they got results of him being guilty, nobody has said they found results of him being innocent. Maybe Rikishi received the result, or maybe the person just doesn't want to put a target on their back by coming out. /shrug

    Pointing out out the whole Hulk Hogan being jailed on a night when a scum player seemed absent and then their presence the next night when he wasn't blocked is definitely a curious thing, a mark against Hogan if you will. Not a sure thing, as I'm pretty sure we've not had all scum act every night, but definitely a mark against.

    Bacon has been shown as a suspect by Moana's spread sheeting. He was a neutral/unknown read for me, which is not a good sign this late in the game. I can't say I'm opposed to lynching him.

    Medivh is Medivh. Maybe lynch.

    Sephiroth is...uh...okay, let's try looking at his posts. Okay. Clearly not a wordy person, and not a lot of contributions as a result. Notice a decent bit of cautioning against people making assumptions, basing these cautions on past experiences. Things like busing, and how scum can target themselves and such, so you shouldn't auto clear people for being a scum target unless it's for something that really hurts. I wouldn't go so far as to say I trust him, but he's one of the better neutral reads for now.

    Masterchief getting all defensive and occasionally indecisive. Such things aren't really alignment indicative. I still can't say I trust him.
  14. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Actually I just read this and LMAO'd.

    You put Medivh and Seph in Neutral for "Doing nothing" and then put me at bottom of distrust for the same reason? This is a bullshit reads list
    I put Medivh in neutral because I know who the player is, and being unhelpful and generally suspicious is how they always are, regardless of their actual alignment. I also gotta be honest, the recent posts make me want to lynch them anyway for being purposely unhelpful, risk of easy mislynch or not.
    I had put Sephiroth in neutral because I wasn't remembering anything and had been too lazy to look through his post history.
    I put you at a lesser trust because I remembered seeing a lot of posts, but they had been almost entirely insubstantial at the time I had actually written it.
  15. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh right, need to get that vote out or else, so sayeth the mod god. And Listo.

    Vote: JackSparrow
    Unvote:

    There.
  16. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Huh. I think I accidentally deleted him from the above list. He was supposed to be in the trust category, I think. Or at least trust-ish.
  17. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I'll add that to the already present "reasons not to lynch" pile.
  18. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I like the way I said it, better, Moana. 4 scum actions, and a jailed Xavier=no way is Xavier scum.
  19. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also....4 scum acted last night. Xavier seems to have been jailed. I don't believe there's still more than 4 scum left (including the recently dead Grumpycat)
  20. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I think I might know who he is. Perhaps something of a change that goes beyond a gutfeel, afterall.
  21. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    For those who do not wish to search for the last one I gave out, but still wish to see it, here it is copy/pasted with the newly dead people removed, otherwise unchanged.

    Trust-ish
    Xavier Woods- Dunno if he's stepping up in the absence of Subzero, or if he's just more noticeable without Subzero's very large number of posts. Either way, I like him today and think he's a bad choice for lynch at the moment.

    Neutral
    Sauron- He's trying today, though is getting tripped up a bit by the admittedly confusing triple naming scheme we've got going on (Random user name, Character name based on actual users, real user name). Being a sub is hard at the best of times, so I want to give him benefit of the doubt for now and leave him as neutral.
    Sephiroth- Still don't remember much of anything, maybe I'll look into his stuff later, but for now I'll just leave him as neutral.
    Bacon- Moving him down from the trust-ish category. While I don't feel particularly suspicious of him, I can't say I feel good about him anymore.
    Medivh- Let's be honest, she probably should've been here from the start. Sort of suspicious and not very helpful is really not alignment indicative for her, and as likely an easy mislynch as she is scum. Who knows?

    Distrust-ish
    Hulk Hogan- As before, still like the RP and such, but not feeling great about him overall. Almost putting him in neutral because of the role block, but there are still scum who weren't seen acting if I'm not mistaken, so it's not a sure thing.
    Jacksparrow- Moving up from the full distrust category he was in previously, but still not somebody I trust. The defensive "oh why me posts" aren't really doing him favours in my mind, but the sharing vote similarities with Alysrazor isn't quite as damning as it seems because all those guys in the competing trains were townies.
    Masterchief- Noticed how his posts are frequent, but generally empty. While there are occasional reads on individuals I see, there's not a lot going on with that. I'm edging him towards distrust, but it's not a strong distrust at this point.
  22. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I'd post the trust list, but very little has changed in my mind due to the heavily implied cop led lynch.
  23. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    As things stand, Jack is my top choice for lynch.

    SolidSnake, XavierWoods and Moana are ones I'm definitely not lynching today.

    Most everyone else are varying levels of maybe I'll lynch.
  24. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I assume the edit was to make the Castle say that instead of listo. Slightly less paranoid inducing message. The castle is still scary with it's kill us all lights, though.
  25. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh, I swear it said that listo said that thing
  26. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Like, seriously? What does that listo mission change mean? Is his alignment changing? His win condition? What the Hell?
  27. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Void Kitten is seemingly "dead", listo's mission has changed, and we have night chat. What the hell?
  28. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Though, we are 24 hours into day, with 24 hours left, and the light is half way across the play area. So perhaps the light expansion is tied in with how much time we have in the day anyway, so maybe not that big of a rush. :chin:
  29. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Almost.

    Vote: Twintania

    Me dun wanna be light flambéed.
  30. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I don't think I've ever drawn a mafia game courtesy of the end of the world.
    Well...you just made me realize how unusual a circumstance that would be and almost make me want to try for it.
  31. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Given the serious risk of death from ever expanding burning light, I think it might be wise to introduce some darkness in the form of night maybe?
  32. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well...we might have a bit of a time limit on our hands. We may have 24 hours left in the day, but can we afford to wait that long? I'm not so sure.
  33. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Speak of the devil, and it acts up again.
  34. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I am reminded of The Nothing from The Neverending Story.
  35. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    The rapidly expanding light is a little concerning, to move onto current events not directly related to who to trust or not trust.
  36. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Better safe than sorry dudes!
    Never know when they're a zombie, right?
  37. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hello, folks.

    Trust
    Moana- Rock, paper, scissors of doom seems a pretty solid indicator that they're town, unless you wish to argue for scum throwing the match because of the apparent bullet proof vest had by the one issuing the challenge. Very risky kind of play, to waste a BPV, though. Seems to be coming forth with results from an investigation on Twintania. With the not receiving results personally, it's not a guarantee they're town, but it definitely speaks well for them as long as Twin does flip scum, which I think very likely.
    SolidSnake- Had the bus drive action with an inactive, suggesting they tried to get him accidentally killed by the inactivity kill. Also, was not saved from being lowest vote on D1, resulting in his death (though was resurrected later)

    Trust-ish
    GrumpyCat- Actively posting. Mostly a carryover from previous impressions. Maybe deserving of another look, but I think there are better uses of time and energy.
    Rikishi- Still getting primarily positive vibes
    Xavier Woods- Dunno if he's stepping up in the absence of Subzero, or if he's just more noticeable without Subzero's very large number of posts. Either way, I like him today and think he's a bad choice for lynch at the moment.

    Neutral
    Sauron- He's trying today, though is getting tripped up a bit by the admittedly confusing triple naming scheme we've got going on (Random user name, Character name based on actual users, real user name). Being a sub is hard at the best of times, so I want to give him benefit of the doubt for now and leave him as neutral.
    Sephiroth- Still don't remember much of anything, maybe I'll look into his stuff later, but for now I'll just leave him as neutral.
    Bacon- Moving him down from the trust-ish category. While I don't feel particularly suspicious of him, I can't say I feel good about him anymore.
    Medivh- Let's be honest, she probably should've been here from the start. Sort of suspicious and not very helpful is really not alignment indicative for her, and as likely an easy mislynch as she is scum. Who knows?

    Distrust-ish
    Hulk Hogan- As before, still like the RP and such, but not feeling great about him overall. Almost putting him in neutral because of the role block, but there are still scum who weren't seen acting if I'm not mistaken, so it's not a sure thing.
    Jacksparrow- Moving up from the full distrust category he was in previously, but still not somebody I trust. The defensive "oh why me posts" aren't really doing him favours in my mind, but the sharing vote similarities with Alysrazor isn't quite as damning as it seems because all those guys in the competing trains were townies.
    Masterchief- Noticed how his posts are frequent, but generally empty. While there are occasional reads on individuals I see, there's not a lot going on with that. I'm edging him towards distrust, but it's not a strong distrust at this point.

    Distrust
    Twintania- do I really need to justify here?
  38. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Unvote:

    I must now to slumber land go, good night.
  39. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well, that's one of my top suspects down and scum, and another one implied to be investigated in some fashion or another. I shall vote to avoid the non voter wrath because there's legitimate risk of day ending before I even get back from work tomorrow, and then unvote to help avoid the rush.

    Vote: Twintania
  40. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    It is still mostly the gut feels, I confess. I didn't like the feel of their posts as I read through, The votes and reasoning felt a little off to me or maybe even opportunistic, and because I had put them in the distrust-ish category the last time and didn't see anything that made me feel better about them, it felt appropriate to rank them below the newcomers to the Distrust-ish category.

    The analysis you gave showing Jack sharing the vote similarities with Alysrazor didn't help his cause.
  41. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    As much as I think Moana is town with the RPS.

    Some super paranoid tinfoil has me not sold 100% on them being town. Sit more like 90-95%

    Since Morrison lost and popped the vest, and town doesnt know who any of the scum are. Putting 2 scum in RPS and intentionally popping the GF vest to give someone town cred. I know this isnt anything that we can do anything about this early, but it shouldnt 100% clear Moana the later we get into the game.
    I can agree with the sentiment, but that's an issue to mostly be revisited later in the game when we're down to fewer people, I think.
  42. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    He isn't wrong, and despite my misgivings about being led down a dark alley as I said above, it is mostly the people I'm trusting that push her.
  43. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Given what I've read, and general impressions, I am inclined to go along with Alysrazor as a viable alternative to Peach.

    Vote: Alysrazor
  44. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Why am i distrusted :squint:
    You have the black heart of a pirate. You have the same voting crossover as Alysrazor, as pointed out by Subzero, and just a general feeling of you ain't right, buddy.
  45. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    My top suspect..

    ...is...

    YOU.
    :squint:

    I'm just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    For now.
    :squint:
    I believe you're town, but dear godly me, you're being so unhelpful.
  46. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Late voters on Croissant: Bacon, MasterChief, Alys, Arceus, JackSparrow, Xavier (Sephiroth, SolidSnake, Rikishi, Art)
    -With Jack and Xavier, if Peach is scum, I don't think the later vote on Croissant matters considering I think it's NAI to go for which lynch will actually meet majority.

    Voters on Hades D3: Hulk, Grumpy, Twin, Jack, Alys, Xavier (SolidSnake, Art)
    -Same thing with Xavier.

    If we ignore Xavier for now, we have Alys and Jack as the crossover between wagons.

    Not a great look for Alys, especially if Peach is scum
    This I think reasoning is enough for me to place Alysrazor into at least the distrust-ish category. Sure glad I waited. Jack was already distrusted, so no change for him.
  47. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Alysrazor even. Mr Alice Razor. I missed a Mr Alice Razor. Or Miss Alice Razor. I dunno. I'm going to finish reading the day before I add them to the lists.
  48. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Yes, I missed Alyzrazor. Was counting myself two short of total players (accounting for dead stumpy mcstumpface), but realized I obviously wouldn't count myself.
  49. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Wait, did I miss somebody? My ragged attempt at notes keeping track are a mess.
  50. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Once he posted, right before end of day, to say they hadn't read anything and would work on that later.

    Side note: I haven't finished catching up with this day, even if there's not a lot yet to go through.
  51. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    A feeling?!?
    Scum tried to KILL MOANA!!!
    Seems pretty clear this is true with the whole Rock/Paper/Scissors game of doom. Add you to the trusted pile, too, I guess.

    Trusted:
    Subzero - scum targeted him with an investigative role on N1, seems to have been a target for a kill last night which may have been scum hidden as town action, may have been mind control, or may have been random weird shit, but whatever the case, it speaks well for him. Also by far the most active player that is pushing for solving things. If he's scum, then I'm Santa Claus.
    SolidSnake- Had the bus drive action with an inactive, suggesting they tried to get him accidentally killed by the inactivity kill. Also, was not saved from being lowest vote on D1, resulting in his death (though was resurrected later)
    Moana - Rock, paper, scissors of doom seems a pretty solid indicator that they're town, unless you wish to argue for scum throwing the match because of the apparent bullet proof vest had by the one issuing the challenge. Very risky kind of play, to waste a BPV, though.

    Trust-ish
    GrumpyCat - Actively posting. Mostly a carryover from previous impressions. Maybe deserving of another look, but I think there are better uses of time and energy.
    Bacon- General impressions are positive, but it's not a solid thing. Better choices out there for lynch.
    Rikishi- I'm getting a positive vibe here, but nothing substantial beyond impressions.

    Uncertain
    Sauron- Absentee replacing an absentee, yet doesn't die to listo's wrath. Curious.
    Arttheclown- Dead and stumped. Continues professing innocence, but of course he would regardless. Really would have like a flip rather than a ???
    Masterchief- I can say I remember he's posted...but I can't remember anything beyond that. I have no impressions of this player at all, which in some ways is awfully damning in its own right.
    Sephiroth- I can't recall much here. I swear he's posted, and I vaguely think there was something more than just fluff, but I can't remember.
    Xavier Woods- Had a bit of attention tossed his way early, I remember, though it faded away. Most of my memories of him involve defending himself from the Xavier haters.

    Distrust-ish
    PrincessPeach -Stalled train, big swing to save somebody without information could go either way and is perhaps non alignment indicative, not a lot of contributions outside of that one big swing is iffy. Nobody else seems to trust them, which might be shading my impressions at this point. I'm hesitant to throw my vote here because I feel like I'm being led down a dark alley by those saying "trust me, it'll all be fine".
    Medivh- Like with half the game or more, I think I know who the player is. Tends to always be the kind of suspicious and unhelpful vibe, regardless of role, but that doesn't change away from being unhelpful.
    HulkHogan- While I still enjoy the RP elements of his posts, I'm starting to get an impression of little contribution and being quick to jump on the bandwagons out there. Not a definitively damning opinion, but...

    Distrust
    Twintania -upgrading (or downgrading I suppose) from yesterday. Still don't trust, and going forward with it.
    JackSparrow - Same boat as Twintania.
  52. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Certainly no time to change it at this point, though. Options are Princess, Hades, or abstain to try and avoid a lynch entirely. I've never been a fan of no lynching. Do I trust my take on Princess or my takes on Twintania/Jack more?
    Well, in the end it's 2 against one. I'll go with my lack of trust in those two.

    Unvote:
    Vote: Princess Peach
  53. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hmm. I see Twintania and JackSparrow on Hades, both of whom I'm wary of.
    I had given PrincessPeach a slight preferential treatment for the big swing to save Croissant, however the people voting here don't contain the red flag players for me.

    I don't think I'm happy either way at this point.
  54. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I see not much has happened while I slept. I'll be off to work soon, but will definitely be back before end of day to consolidate my vote if needed.
  55. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Back to the distrust-ish pile.

    Hades, Medivh, Moana, Twintania, Jacksparrow

    Those are my first choices currently for lynching. The neutrals and can't even remembers category is also plausible. Hades I believe is the primary train so far. I need to get the "don't smite me, mod gods" vote out of the way, for the mod gods are even stronger than this god speaking to you now, and shall place it on an alternative from my list.

    Vote: Twintania

    In honor of our poet, Sora....

    To sleep I must go
    What sweet dreams await me there
    Probably nightmares
  56. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Of course, that could just be flavor text.
  57. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    In-Game Event

    Marack
    smiled as he saw the effects of his pleasing liquid. But, the words were not pleasant enough. Marack typed some commands in on his laptop and activated the nanobots in his contraption. They electrocuted Sora from within. He fell to the ground weakened, but stood up and continued on. "Damn. I will need to rest tonight. That fucking hurt," he muttered. As Sora walked on, he felt the initial effects of the concoction start to fade.
    Here it is.
    "Damn. I will need to rest tonight. That fucking hurt,"
    Needing to rest tonight definitely sounds like he's effectively role blocked for this next night phase.
  58. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    If someone fails at a post restriction - what happens? Do they die, or do they get muted for the rest of the day?

    The restriction on Sora came from Marack, who was town. But Sora was apparently both watched and tracked, and the results got sent to others.

    So it is safe to assume that Sora is town, because we should have heard deets if she was not.
    From what I read, I think there was some message of needing to rest tonight or something, wasn't there? I took that as a case of Sora losing their action for this night. Unless I misread/misrembered.
  59. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Almost caught up. I move Grumpycat from neutral to trust-ish. I like his activity, his bringing up of counterpoints and arguments. Could be scum trying to muddy waters of what people think, could be town trying to get people to think. I'll give benefit of the doubt for now.
    Moving Twintania to distrust-ish. I got a kind of light, superficial vibe, like he's trying to dance just out of reach or something with sort of pseudo contribution and agreements that feel perhaps opportunistic maybe? Perhaps I'm reading something here that isn't, but it's enough to put him lower in my eyes.
  60. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Tentative list before I read most of the day.

    Trust: Subzero, SolidSnake
    Trust-ish: PrincessPeach, Sora
    Distrust-ish: Hades, Medivh, Moana, JackSparrow

    Subzero and SolidSnake trust has been explained already.
    Sora I have a general feeling of town, though perhaps frustrating town vs town instigator with Subzero
    PrincessPeach I kind of like the big swing trying to save somebody, though it's not a sure thing of course.
    Not a lot of solid reasons behind the distrust, just general impressions, hence the worst being the distrust-ish category.
    Neutral or a big shrug of not remembering, more or less, for all else.
  61. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    This is probably true regardless of Applejack(now Sauron)'s alignment
    Given the busing with somebody who may have been hit by Listo, I agree that SolidSnake is unlikely to be red. I'll toss him into the trusted section, for now.
  62. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hmph. Fuggit.

    Vote: Croissant

    I don't really believe Princess has solid cause to trust Croissant given the mass role block, and could be mistaken on basic reads. Also, I kind of trust some of the people on this train more. Subzero at least. Croissant from what I saw had a "I'm too busy to read the thread" post and not a heck of a lot else going on.
  63. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    And it's gone. Well, I know one person who's playing the game, then.
  64. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Wrong account, buddy!
  65. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    That is true. Yes, indeed.
    Unvote:
    For the moment, remove my vote which is doing nothing on Applejack.
  66. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I see. Is Princess claiming not to be town? Because that would seem counterproductive as far as moves go.
  67. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Arceus move your vote on to me
    Why is Princess asking to be lynched?
  68. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Reading through it, I see that Applejack is being potentially left to be killed for inactivity. That makes sense.
  69. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Croissant I remember being one of the 2 vote individuals that had some attention, if nothing else.
  70. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Just got home. Croissant or PrincessPeach it seems?

    Not sure if I'll have time to catch up before end of day, is there a cliff notes version of any events? Anything new added to the pile that caused those two to race to the gallows?
  71. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hey I’m catching up now, i haven’t been able to post today, I support the art train before, I was feeling icky about some of the early posts during this day phase, I then noticed the train that was started. It’s mostly a gut thing idk. Not a great reason I’m aware. I don’t think sleep is the way to go.

    Quick question what is omgus
    As for my absence I’m doing my best
    Oh my god you suck
    It means you retaliate by voting against somebody that angers you or voted against you. Generally seen as bad play.
  72. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Of the list a couple posts back...

    I'm enjoying the silly HulkHogan roleplay, so I'd prefer not to lynch for that one silly reason.
    Alysrazor- Feels familiar to me as a player, have some guesses on that front. Was active during the last 30 minutes rush of yesterday. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, to be honest. Not opposed to a lynch, but probably not a first choice
    Sora- Already said I suspect he's good. though that could change I'd rather lynch others for now
    Croissant- Fine with lynch
    Applejack- Fine with lynching.
    Moana- Mixed feelings of the gut feel variety. Going back and forth between good with lynching, and rather not.

    Very surface level at the moment, would definitely need closer investigation of how votes moved in the last 30 minutes from 0 to 1 and 1 to zero, but I am about to be busy and won't be able to do so right away. Also, I could certainly be convinced of other people entirely who weren't at 2 votes.

    To avoid the wrath of doom from the mod for not voting ever, here's a place holder vote on one of the above.
    Vote: Applejack
  73. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    My take on Sora vs Subzero. Already said that Subzero has the write up causing me to clear him for now, and Sora I think is being a little bullheaded but is probably town. Scum likely sat back and enjoyed the show. Even if Sora is scum, I'd rather save him for later.
  74. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I'm reasonably confident the ones on 1 vote are town. Red team wouldn't put themselves in unnecessary danger and all it would have taken would be SolidSnake unvoting or moving, or Hades/XavierWoods self voting. I also believe that the reds all knew it was happening so would have been alert to quick changes (led by SubZero and ArttheClown, IIRC). So, on that flimsy reasoning:

    Vote: Moana
    I was going to say that I'd easily believe that at least one of the people with 2 votes is scum, because they'd want to remove themselves from the firing lane, but then I realized that with so many at 2 votes, that'd likely be true even just by chance. Still, it's a place to start looking.

    HulkHogan
    Alysrazor
    Sora
    Croissant
    Applejack
    Moana
  75. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Odd, but certainly not impossible. Scum can be reactionary and not pay attention, too.
  76. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oddly, it makes me feel almost more trusting of Hades, because such a blatant bad vote would be kind of odd to see the scum team make when all red members should know full well that the write up makes Subzero look good.
  77. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Hades immediate response to OMGUS isn't helping their case
    doubt it matters now, over 24 hours later, but agreed. Either it's a very bad case of OMGUS, or somebody not thinking about how you're almost certainly not red.
  78. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Started reading the day. Looks like mass role block of anybody not red. Subzero was targeted by red in some fashion. The write up says they "gave someone credentials to check out SubZero"

    From the rules:
    "6. Investigative roles will not receive their own results. Instead, along with action submission, they will choose another player to receive their results instead. You cannot choose the same player twice in a row to receive results. If you are subject to this, your rolecard will state it. Cop investigations will report Supremacy or Other. If the action fails, No Result will be delivered to the user of the ability."

    Sounds to me like an investigative role of some kind. Subzero is top person I trust currently purely because I don't see red investigating their own team. This trust may be revoked later if we get evidence of a second scum team, but even then they have more trust than average because they are unlikely to be on red at least.

    Sorry if double post. Submitted the post and it didn't seem to go through, so submitted again.
  79. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh, so not only do we not get a full day, we don't even get to know who it was we killed.
  80. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I am going to laugh if the 30 minute thing was a fake out and we actually have a completely normal length of day left.
  81. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    *Throws a table*
    That whack-o post saying half an hour left was 25 minutes ago!
  82. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I'm fine with Xavier and Croissant, I guess?
  83. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Everything is so confusing!
  84. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Snake bumped himself up to basically the most votes, so he's not likely a possibility for lowest anymore. I think.
  85. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    I remember nothing from Croissant, has he shown up?
  86. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh and Hades is back there too
  87. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Moana and Alysrazor are out of the firing range, then.

    Xavier woods
    Applejack
    Croissant

    Those are left at lowest, I think.
  88. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Alysrazor has been here, Moana has some posts I remember because I interacted...
  89. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Unvote:

    No show is a good lowest tier vote then! Ugh!
  90. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    He was at the top of the list and he was a deity and I'm panicking!
  91. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    We could possibly leave Xavier and Applejack to be tied for lowest maybe.

    Vote: Hades
    Hello fellow deity, I am getting you out of the lowest vote firing range! For now, at least.
  92. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Unvote:

    For now, probably gonna try to bump a lowbie to narrow down the field.
  93. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Also, if they get immunity, then also a shrug.
  94. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Who amongst these would we like to see get immunity? I'm okay with Sora, and Grumpycat getting immunity. I kinda don't wanna see Sora die. The rest are a a shrug on if they die or not.
  95. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    The ones with more than 1 vote:
    Sora (3)
    Grumpycat (2)
    Subzero (2)
    Hulk Hogan (2)
    Solid Snake (2)
  96. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Oh my me, there's 6 people with 1 vote on them!
  97. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Those who are here should probably try and figure things out. We probably can't get a proper lowest, best we could do is upvote some of the other single vote folks to leave us with 1 or 2 of them left.
  98. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Well this throws a wrench into things. I'd bet most people aren't even going to see this before the 30 minutes are up.
  99. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    The hell?
  100. Arceus

    Mafia 4 - The Fall of FoS

    Though I do like the idea of forcing it to two trains, getting that kind of cooperation and coordination from 20+ people is unlikely.
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