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  1. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Future, I know where your vote is probably gonna go, but just consider the fact that the writeups aren't fully reconciled and CWE wanted to try to get me out over 2 confirmed scum
  2. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Vote: CWE

    Too many town roles still alive, Future confirmed not red, and CWE's weird fit after Val was chopped instead of me.

    So what was this info you had, CWE?
  3. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Yeah, that wasn't meant to be as much. But I know being a leashed SK is a risky move that most town wouldn't bargain with. So it's cool that you guys let me chop some more heads before I go.
  4. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Honestly, I just appreciate you guys obliging me this long and I know eventually you'll probably kill me before scum does, but all I can really say in defense of letting me live to that bitter end is all my kills have been true to my word, and even though I missed on llettuce, it wasn't for lack of thinking she could still be scum. I was worried that after being caught, Matthieu voted llettuce for a last minute distance push.
  5. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Crackleslap said:
    Psycho what is your moral obligation and how are you fucking us if we let you live today?
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    My moral obligation is to either force scum to kill me or live long enough to see them dead while still using my broken blade. That's as far as I can go this game. The only way I'd be fucking you by letting me live today is if I kill wrong before that point. Which is why I'm trying to bring up some of the remaining discrepancies in the night info so I don't bring town to a swift death.
  6. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    And also:



    You like looking at pieces of shit?

    adam sandler lol GIF
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    A man has eclectic tastes
  7. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    Yes. Read the language on the flavor one more time. Do you remember when I started making the standard mass rb for scum less powerful in my games? One might speculate that it might be something like that.
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    I assume you mean the 50% chance to be blocked. Which makes sense and I figured that's probably built into the mechanic at least for the massblock from Pegasus, but it's the specific wording of him being hit by the mental attack. Normally if they survived the 50/50, they weren't hit by the block. So this flavor seemed to specifically imply that despite being hit, he was able to push through.

    I think, in the least, it was a strongman kill.
  8. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I dunno, some of the pairings don't match up like I imagined, but if Ditto is still a unique character that confirms we have enough roles to make up for all the town and we don't have a hidden scum in the wings. And if Crackle was able to act twice as two different characters thanks to Toon Dragon's gift, then that would also help explain what could be the discrepancy in active roles N4 vs. how many town and scum roles should be left from what we've seen. Not sure I got as much from that I was hoping, but it does feel like something screwy is happening.

    Anyway, I think Val is the safest bet going by the way they reacted to the writeup without actually discerning what each role did like they've done every other phase. If Mazer is scum, I understand chopping him first to try and avoid his delayed kill, but if we're right about Pegasus delaying both 3pups and Mazer, then we probably have at least one free night phase before Mazer's character will act.
  9. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    I don't think this is what you think it is.
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    Do you think it was just flavor implying that he just was successful in overriding the mass block?

    Because if not that it at least has to be a strongman kill.
  10. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    VoidKitten said:
    Maximillion Pegasus bowed his head to his fallen comrades. He would not let Industrial Illusions lose. Now that casualties were starting to mount, he used his Millenium Eye to pierce into everyone's souls. “Now this is going to hurt, but it will hurt them more than us.”

    Ditto had finally gotten the footprints off of him and he was looking sleek and knew. Ditto closed his eyes and manipulated his body ensuring he would be extra sticky tonight.

    Aegislash was on the hunt again tonight and followed closely behind someone until they stopped. Aegislash stayed close to Kareemah and struck up conversation to figure out their true intentions.

    Zapdos was soaring through the air, scanning the battlefield below, looking for people to assist. He saw MTR getting prepared for battle and Zapdos swooped down and encased MTR in an electric shield before flying off again.

    Exodia, The Forbidden One had a score to settle and set out to see it done. He came across his foe Claws and decided his soul needed to be shredded. Exodia took no time to connect with Claws on a soul wave level and shatter it completely. As Claws fell to the ground, so did two others.

    Claws, playing as Emrakul/Gabumon, the BPV Giving Ability Thief, has been killed.

    Summoned Skull     continued crossing his arms as he always had, with no real expression on his face. But he knew work had to be done. He located PsychoSoldier and cast a curse on him that would not be removed by any conventional means.

    Gaia The Fierce Knight was reviewing all the information he had presently but knew he needed more to help Industrial Illusions come to a victory. Gaia set out and located Xanjori to check the information that he had gained previously. Once he was done, Gaia The Fierce Knight headed home.

    While Gaia was out, a sneaky Impmon had taken up residence. He knew that GrumpyCat would provide a whole wealth of opportunities. Once Gaia arrived back to camp, GrumpyCat and Nightingale were getting ready to have an intense chat, when Gaia’s camp exploded and everything went up in flames. There would be no way to survive that blast for GrumpyCat and Nightingale. Near the scene, Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was seen flying away, with bits of blue fire trailing from his mouth.

    GrumpyCat, playing as Gaia The Fierce Knight/Mudkip, the Innocent Child Parity Cop, has been killed.

    Nightingale, playing as Feral Imp/Haunter, the Neighboring Hider, has been killed.

    Blue Eyes Toon Dragon     flew through the air with a big grin on his face. He was super cute, but also had some awesome mystical powers. He had created a package and left it near Crackleslap hoping he would find it of some use.

    The Ur-Dragon was stricken by the mental attack from Pegasus, but he fought through the pain and broke free. He knew someone had to die and was going to see it done no matter what. The Ur-Dragon flew through the air and located MTR. The Ur-Dragon launched a fiery attack that crashed against the shield given by Zapdos. The shield tried to hold, but it could not contain the wrath of The Ur-Dragon and MTR ended up being incinerated.

    MTR, playing as Celtic Guardian/Aegislash, the Watching Alignment Cop, has been killed.

    —---------

    Living Players:

    1. Crackleslap
    2. CWE
    3. FutureHold
    4. Kareemah
    5. Listo95
    6. Llettuce
    7. Matthieu
    8. Mazer
    9. PsychoSoldier
    10. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0
    11. Xanjori

    It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end on Aug 21st at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 11 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority comes into play. If modified majority is not reached, there will be no elimination.
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    Noted that Ur-Dragon specifically broke through the mass block. Do we think he's permanently unblockable or did he happen to use a strongman kill on that night?
  11. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    We're definitely missing a role one way or another. I was for the longest time thinking Ditto was one of the only roles that had a single character tied to it, but I guess if I had to make pairings of the roles we've seen, there's

    Zapdos/Dark Magician Girl
    Pegasus/Snorlax
    Ditto/Dark Magician

    Exodia

    Ur-Dragon/Agumon
    Oko/Impmon

    We're still missing a role. Maybe I was right in Ditto being solo and Dark Magician is someone else which would make up for the extra number, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around that.

    I guess if we look at the writeup, Val was definitely blocked, and Mazer had his role delayed, and we didn't see any scum act, so at least one of them has to be scum. And Val's reaction to the night actions being to say RIP and then dip is probably an admission. But I'm worried that Mazer might have been a town role that got delayed instead.
  12. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Do we think Ash didn't end up in the final cut since Void didn't get all the numbers he wanted?
  13. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I'd also been thinking that Crackle was Ditto, but Ditto shouldn't have had the info on Matthieu. So either Ditto's role works in really weird ways, or Crackle is Dark Magician, or both, because Crackle had the info on me that implied it was Ditto who saw.
  14. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Still looking over things, but one thing that been bothering me is N4.

    With Agumon, Ur-Dragon, Impmon, and Oko, it's possible for those to be pairs if none of them are fully unique roles. I think it's mostly safe to assume there aren't other scum, but maybe possible that Ur-Dragon was its own role and Agumon/Impmon/Oko have a pair we haven't seen yet.

    So on N4, we had:

    Dark Magician Girl, Snorlax, Pikachu, Dark Magician, and Ditto active. As well as Exodia, Oko, and Agumon. Only one living player wasn't active. So unless someone was able to act with two different characters/actions on that night, the numbers don't add up.
  15. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Ok, I'm here, looking at shit now
  16. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Xanjori said:
    Cant we speed run Val+Mazer?
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    In theory, yes. But I have some holes in my spreadsheet logic that need to be sorted out with the recent flips that might not make it that clear cut. I just want to be sure and have the info out before we assume and make a mistake.
  17. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I probably won't be around much today and want to update my spreadsheet. Can we not speed yeet today so I can at least work some shit out tomorrow?
  18. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    A shame about llettuce, but it looks like the scum kill was probably stopped

    Vote: Val
  19. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Consider my vote spiritually on Matthieu. I'm too tired to post anything in detail right now.

    Cape's a clever bastard.
  20. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Crackleslap said:
    This is matthieu's vote on Claws in the above vote count fwiw. He kept there for quite a long time too. I don't think this clears him in anyway. Looking at Psycho's train my guess is he didn't join that train because there is already quite a few scum on it, and he didn't join Cape's train because he was red, and didn't want to vote off Cape, and was hoping the Psycho train would lead without necessarily hopping onto it.
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    I think the only thing with Matthieu, for me, is that Cape seemed to be pushing him pretty seriously on d1. The Listo pushing made sense as distancing(I think both me and Mazer have talked about this), and in particular, he mentiones Listo and Matthieu as scummy in the same post at one point and then proceeded to focus on Matthieu.

    Like the vote on Kareemah and possible distance vote on Claws withstanding, I still have a hard time buying that Cape pushed Matthieu as a form of distancing or even a bus. Like d1 is largely irrelevant because we rarely lynch on d1, but I think Cape instinctually would have played as if there would be one.
  21. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Xanjori said:
    Although Ill give it to you this does look good for Psycho not actually being red
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    Are you insinuating I'm red?

    What's your theory there? Because one living person knows for a fact who I am.
  22. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Xanjori said:
    Someone explain to me why the fuck Psycho hasnt been targeted by red yet btw?
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    I honestly don't know. I figured they'd at least try to block me last night.
  23. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Crackleslap said:
    Cape90 - 9 (CWE #1533, Psycho #1538, Xanjori #1486, 3puppies #1641, Kareemah #1688, Future #1708, GrumpyCat #1801, Mazer #1847, MTR #1858)
    Psycho - 6 (Crackleslap #1481,     Listo #1701, Cape90 #1754, Val #1776, Claws #1778)
    Kareemah - 1 (Lettuce #1504)
    Claws - 1 (Matthieu #1714)

    Lets revisit this vote count shall we?

    Ngl this vote count looks truly awful for scum. And giving our current possible POE, those in orange, don't look great either.
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    I think the first half of the wagon on Cape is probably clean, especially since it's clear most of scum tried to pile on me to get me out first. Future/Mazer could be the people that saw the writing on the wall.

    Matthieu voting Claws is ultimately a good look but could be distancing, whereas llettuce seeming to barrel into Kareemah the last couple phases isn't really a good look for her

    (If you are scum, llettuce, you really improved your game compared to last time and feel proud of your accomplishments. You outlasted some heavy hitters)
  24. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    I don't debate psych's logic. I think i have at least a little positive cred. I also think he's earned his stripes with me. I'm not for that move.

    Because I know me, there is quite possibly subterfuge or something less probable.

    I've considered future as gf. But I am curious about lettuce after yesterday.
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    Yeah, like I said, I liked your posting last phase even though it's relatively easy to look solvey in the current thread state

    But also I was feeling a bit weird about the way you seemed to really be dragging out a vote on Kareemah, and if she was scum, that was gonna look bad to me. But she flipped town, and I kinda think scum!Mazer doesn't risk skipping a chop there by dragging it out like you did. The POE I'm looking at isn't in your favor, but the above is why I'd rather push the other two and see if we can't narrow roles down more before assuming you're scum
  25. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Xanjori said:
    Although the fact theyve blocked me again is something in its own right.

    Anyway Matthieu/Lettuce/Val as a general POE should be good yes? Im fine with start on the left and working towards Val last
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    Why Matthieu and Val? No concerns about Mazer?
  26. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Crackleslap said:
    My apologies. I unfortunately had a very busy past few days and expensive! ($750) just for a car service!! I kinda forgot about the game.

    Anyways. I kinda wanna see a reads list from everyone. At 2 people on a town read and 2 on a scum read plz and thankyou.
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    I mean, if we're not counting you, I have CWE and Xan as most likely town, with Val and Matthieu trailing behind them, one scum between those two.

    My POE above is ultimately what I'm looking at
  27. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Feels like the last scum would have definitely been on the Kareemah wagon, so

    Vote: llettuce

    Due to the possible difference check between them
  28. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Hmm, if that's true though, that means at least one of the people I previously thought was town is scum. And possibly llettuce actually is scum against town!Kareemah. Or that Future is a godfather.

    I still feel like Cape's interactions with Xanjori are less likely to be partnered, and while the roleblock could be a smokescreen, I think it still clears him of Agumon and Oko, and he should be cleared of every other scum role we've seen as well, so I wouldn't look there.

    Mazer/llettuce/Future?

    With Val, Matthieu, and CWE all having fairly unpaired interactions with flipped scum, and Xan seemingly cleared of all scum roles, that's what it points to. Just not 100% sure Val and Matthieu are completely cleared from unpairing. But CWE having unpaired interactions with both Cape and Listo is probably a good look there.
  29. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I wanna say Listo trying to push Val there is a good sign for Val
  30. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I'm kinda thinking Tildey was Sudowoodo and how she got the stump role, and I think we're still looking at 3 more scum left if I'm reading roles right.

    Even if Tildey is scum, I think we're still dealing with 3 scum left because 4 town roles were active last night, and when you remove me and Crackle (who should have been obvious ages ago), there's 3 players left over, and enough characters to make sense of it
  31. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    That's right, Pegasus was the toons.

    But if that holds true, that would mean Toon Dragon who acted on the same night as Pegasus. Which is a bit less likely there.
  32. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    It's been a long time since I watched the anime. Did Pegasus have a specific card he was fond of similar to Kaiba having Blue Eyes?
  33. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Kinda feels like Pikachu/Zapdos would be a pairing, but that would throw off the Pokemon/Yu-Gi-Oh pairing pattern that we've seen so far
  34. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Ok, so Agumon is a legit character in the game it seems, and now we have Snorlax. Gonna have to see what that means.

    We know Xan is probably not Oko and Agumon, so further things good for him.
  35. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Uhhh, so...Oko targeted their own partner? Maybe that was due to Dark Magician Girl?
  36. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    This modified majority confuses me.
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    It's the majority of people actually voting.

    So if you were to vote, there would be 7 votes and the modified majority would be 4
  37. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Might be a sleep vote depending on the exact deadline
  38. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I think modified majority is at 4 right now
    Kareemah should be at 3 votes
  39. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Vote: kareemah

    Just in case that doesn't count
  40. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Vote: Kareemah[/VOTE
    Partially because my gut wants to buy listo's reaction just now
  41. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    I'm not sure I agree with that interpretation. Read the last couple.

    And yeah. It's the telling me I was wrong and that it was explained when I said outside interference and two kills went through.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but two kills and one is gc and not you gets me. Because why?

    You were by far the least subtle yesterday.

    I'm open to whether I'm overreading, UT the blatant "did you read" when it was certainly not apparent gets me.

    Like I said, I'm not there today, but I wanted to see if I was being unfair before night phase.
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    Maybe they were worried about a bpv and would rather reduce numbers?

    I dunno, like I don't disagree that scum could just be inactives left, but I also don't think Xan's reaction is some scumtell that makes me want to vote them if that's what you're trying to get at.
  42. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Well I'm definitely not voting llettuce

    I think I trust CWE most but would also be fine joining Matthieu
  43. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Not 100% what you were trying to point me towards Mazer, but the seeming mass block from Pegasus could explain why scum didn't block or otherwise interfere with me. If you're thinking that Xan's insistence means he's scum who knows they tried to target me last night, I think there's another interpretation of that which would clear Xan 100%
  44. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    @FutureHold @Kareemah @Matthieu @llettuce @Crackleslap wya?
  45. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Are you talking about the discussion of night actions?
  46. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    And I don't get directly scummy vibes from Mazer's play so far. Like maybe I'm biased because he's just active in comparison and so seems to be solving, but overall you don't feel too manipulative, and feel like you'd maybe be making a bit stronger of a play to push me.

    You could be biding your time, having hoped that you would have blocked or killed me, but it's not the first solution my brain jumps to.
  47. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    But then defaulting to Listo feels bad, and same for Kareemah

    It's all shrug at this point, so it's hard to really choose what the best path is.

    I also would feel bad if Val got subbed back in just to be chopped out.
  48. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Yeah, I don't know. Even if you're scum, the pile of people left to most likely be scum are all in a nullish/shrug pile that it's hard to differentiate who's scummier than the rest.

    And my hesitance on Val is I feel like the last couple times he was caught as scum, he just kind of memed and shrugged it off, where here he seems to care a bit and...I don't know, it just feels like maybe that's not the scum hit?
  49. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I don't feel as good about chopping Val now
  50. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Just looked Llettuce's ISO. I only see her replying to Kareemah twice. Doesn't seem notable.
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    She's also had multiple posts talking about Kareemah independently, and then Kareemah had some posts in response to/about her.
  51. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    No particular reason for lletuce at this time. I don't start getting a feel for people until latter in a game after having how people acted for several days.
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    We're on our 4th day and llettuce has had a decent chunk of posts. You don't get anything off her or Kareemah and their relationship, for example?
  52. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    That could explain why Cape came in the thread unaware of his position, but then again, Claws was hella active, so if he peeked in scumchat he would know
  53. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Unvote:

    Val, do you have any thoughts on anyone beyond the mechanics? Any reason why llettuce could be scummy?
  54. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Val the Moofia Boss said:
    Pegasus (town) did ???. I'm guessing he's a JOAT.
    Ditto (town) tracked someone)
    Aegislash (town) tracked Kareemah
    Zapdos (town) doc protected MTR
    Exodia (SK, Psycho) killed Clawsout
    Summoned Skull (town) cursed PsychoSoldier (Exodia the SK)
    Gaia the Fierce Knight (town) copped Xanjori
    Feral Imp/Haunter (town, Nightingale) visited Grumpycat (Gaia, town) and both died. Looking back at previous morning writeups, I'm not seeing who could have visited either to rig them to explode.
    Blue Eyes Toon Dragon (town) gave Crackleslap something.
    The Ur-Dragon (scum) might have been hit by Pegasus. He strongarm killed MTR (Aegislash, town cop).
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    Val the Moofia Boss said:
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    Vote: Llettuce
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    That's it. The picture, if it didn't show up for anyone else, was the list randomizer
  55. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer said:
    Psych, are you comfortable tying your fate into not missing a shot, or is that an unrealistic ask?
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    I mean, I basically have to go that way anyway. I can't really say much more than this due to contractual obligations, but I fully understand that my choices of possible mafia will play a heavy factor into how soon I die. It is what it is.
  56. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    If you wanna get me out of the way now, so be it, I'm not gonna fight it that hard. But keep in mind scum might only need 2-3 more kills to gain parity. Taking me out now will help facilitate that.
  57. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    1. Crackleslap
    2. CWE
    3. FutureHold
    4. Kareemah
    5. Listo95
    6. Llettuce
    7. Matthieu
    8. Mazer
    9. PsychoSoldier
    10. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0
    11. Xanjori

    Take away known towns and less likely to be scum through elimination:

    3. FutureHold
    4. Kareemah
    5. Listo95
    6. Llettuce
    7. Matthieu
    8. Mazer
    10. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0

    Unless Future is Godfather, I'll take him out. And I'll take out Matthieu for being pretty unpaired with Cape. Also counting Kareemah/llettuce as a difference check like Mazer has been saying:

    4. Kareemah/6. Llettuce
    5. Listo95
    8. Mazer
    10. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0

    If everything above is right, this list should have all the scum. With the chance that CWE/Xan could be one of the remaining roles, Future could be a godfather, and I could be reading Matthieu wrong. You could probably make a sort of difference check out of Listo/Matthieu for people Cape pushed at with less likelihood that they're both scum.

    There's also the chance Tildey was scum, too, which would make the bottom 4 slots less likely to be all scum.
  58. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I think we are looking for at least 4 scum left unless there are multiple roles that share 3+ characters or someone like Agumon was cut for the size/is a red herring.

    CWE and Xan have the most red roles checked off, with only being able to be Agumon, Kaiba, maybe Ur-Dragon, or one of the N2 red roles if they aren't paired with Silver Queen, Impmon, and Blue Eyes.
  59. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Also, I tried to do some spreadsheeting, but it's a little hard still trying to figure out pairs, and when most people that acted last night died, it doesn't narrow anything down. Especially when half the people targeted otherwise we already know who they are.
  60. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    VoidKitten said:
    James smiled as the results finally all came in. He did another bow and thanked everyone for supporting Team Rocket. He looked around and snapped his fingers, letting the results be know. “Now once this is done, one public wish has a chance to be granted still and Jessie will be your woman then.”

    A shot rings out at Claws
    A shot rings out at Psycho
    A shot rings out at Listo
    A shot rings out at Cape
    A shot rings out at Tildey
    A shot rings out at Crackleslap.

    PsychoSoldier     was minding his own business when a shot rang out and the bullet flew through the air, striking him in the chest. He stumbled over and fell to his knees, as the blood pooled around him. However, strange time magics took over and Psycho was now watching the scene in reverse, as his blood pooled back into him. Before he knew it, it was moments before the shot. Psycho quickly ducked, avoiding the bullet a second time. He sighed and wiped his brow, knowing that couldn’t happen again or there’d be more consequences.

    Tildey was tending to her garden, even while the event was going on. She knew that there was no excuse for a poor display factor and there should be flowers even if there was a battle raging all around her. As she finished tending her last flower, a bullet connected with her, providing her own blood as glorious fertilizer. As Tildey bled out, others met the same fate.

    Tildey, playing as ???, the ??? has been killed.

    Before anyone could react, the ground around Tildey started to glow, changing Tildey into something more…green and naturey. As the glow faded, Tildey stretched and stood up. She looked different…almost as if she were made of wood.

    Tildey has returned. She is allowed to post in thread for the remainder of the game, but has no actions, does not count for parity, and cannot vote. For all intents and purposes she is dead.

    WindwardAway had her target in her sights and fired. Unfortunately, the gun malfunctioned and exploded. The gun had been loaded with unstable explosive rounds for maximum pain, but they also created maximum explosions if there were issues. WindwardAway was caught up in the explosion and ceased to exist. As Windward died, so did a couple others.

    WindwardAway, playing as Red Eyes Black Dragon/Charizard, the Bus Driving Bodyguard, has been killed.

    Living Players:

    1. 3puppies
    2. Cape90
    3. Claws
    4. Crackleslap
    5. CWE
    6. FutureHold
    7. GrumpyCat
    8. Kareemah
    9. Listo95
    10. Llettuce
    11. Matthieu
    12. Mazer
    13. MTR
    14. Nightingale
    15. PsychoSoldier
    16. Val the Moofia Boss 2.0
    17. Xanjori

    Day 3 Vote Count:

    Psycho - 6 (Crackleslap #1481, Listo #1701, Cape90 #1754, Val #1776, Claws #1778)
    Cape90 - 6 (CWE #1533, Psycho #1538, Xanjori #1486, 3puppies #1641, Kareemah #1688, Future #1708)
    Kareemah - 1 (Lettuce #1504)
    Claws - 1 (Matthieu #1714)

    Not Voting: Mazer, Nightingale, GrumpyCat #1680, MTR #1713

    Current Modified Majority: 8

    It is still Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on August 18th or when majority is reached. With 17 players alive, majority is 9 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, modified majority will come into play. If modified majority is not reached, there will be no elimination.
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    We should have done this before people died, but I think we should have everyone claim the shots they took.

    I shot Cape. I don't know if anyone else followed through.
  61. PsychoSoldier

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    Vote: Val

    Time to crack so eggs
  62. PsychoSoldier

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    Who do you have suspicions of other than me?
  63. PsychoSoldier

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    CWE said:
    For your sake, I hope Cape is town...
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    Cape90 said:
    and your push on me is flat out strange to me and I almost want to call it towny for how lazy it is
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    This was the interaction I was thinking of. Comes off like scum trying to discredit a correct push while also trying to appease CWE by townreading him.

    I guess it could have just been some softball distancing since CWE never got momentum on the Cape push, but I think Cape's response ultimately comes off like someone trying to find the right way to respond to the sus.
  64. PsychoSoldier

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    Actually, don't think that was one of Mazer's posts, never mind
  65. PsychoSoldier

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    Xanjori said:
    I think its mostly POE, maybe Im recalling incorrectly but didnt someone have something clearing for CWE? Also no, I dont feel good about Kareemah but others are already applying a bit of pressure there
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    I wouldn't 100% call it clearing, but CWE's treatment of me and Cape last phase seems less likely to be partnered with Cape.

    Let's also not forget CWE was pushing Cape on feels D2, and iirc Cape acted kind of awkward around it.

    Which I think one of the posts Mazer quoted above was part of that exchange.
  66. PsychoSoldier

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    Listo95 said:
    Can you find that for me? I’m at work and can’t see it. Based on who his characters were he didn’t seem to target you at all.
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    He responded to Cape saying Future is not red.

    If I had to guess, he was motivated to act twice as n N1, and to keep his role hidden, Void didn't reveal the second target in the writeup.
  67. PsychoSoldier

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    @Listo95 give us your wagon analysis
  68. PsychoSoldier

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    CWE was too eager to drop off my wagon and vote Cape. I dunno, maybe he knows how the "Scum against outed neutral" game goes because he's been a part of the many times scum!Rip tried to make those arguments, so maybe he was just getting ahead of the game. But he never faltered and overall I think that's probably town indicative.
  69. PsychoSoldier

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    The one time I played scum with Kareemah, she had a problem with saying things in thread that she shouldn't know. She doesn't even acknowledge me being caught and it's clear scum preferred me being chopped over Cape, so that just adds to the disconnected from thread vibe that probably spews Kareemah town.
  70. PsychoSoldier

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    Ehh, I'm not gonna quote any posts because they're all small things, but I'm not really feeling Kareemah anymore. I feel she's been posting as if completely isolated from the thread and I don't think it's faked, and even with a potentially inactive scum team(so far not the case), I can't imagine her being as uninformed as she is. It's kinda light maybe, but eh.
  71. PsychoSoldier

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    Xanjori said:
    I wish for Psychos win con to be changed, his NK will be replaced with a non-consecutive doctor ability (can self target) and his new win con requires him to successfully block two NKs.
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    This is probably a towny wish. Even though I don't like how he reacted to me saying Claws was scum, I think scum definitely don't want me to be officially added to town numbers with a protective ability. Especially from Xan who is great at making interesting wishes.
  72. PsychoSoldier

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    Matthieu said:
    It's likely that a third party role with the ability to kill has some form of protection, yes. As it happens, the flavour text suggests that Psycho only requires two more kills in order to secure victory. Presumably at that point he then departs the game in a manner similar to Blind Ninja.

    He's been caught out, though I don't think he's going to throw the game in a way that isn't to his favour. So I'd say to be on the safe side we try to yeet him today to remove his protection and then if he doesn't hit scum in the night, we take him out properly tomorrow. If he does hit scum tonight, we allow him to endure and achieve his win condition.

    I don't know how much Psycho can say but...my concern is if we don't strip him of his protection he'll just target someone at random then go 'lol' and be unyeetable during the following day phase and take someone else out at night. That's exactly what I'd do.
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    This is probably a towny position against my slot. Placeholder on Claws after this maybe a tiny bit too.
  73. PsychoSoldier

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    Crackle shouldn't be touched ever. My reads have llettuce as clean. Gut says to go after Kareemah. That's all I got for now.
  74. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Not really here today. Definitely want to sheet a bit. Y'all might just hang me and that's ok. But I'm gonna drag scum to hell with me.
  75. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Told ya
  76. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Gotta admit, Claws' tone is pure af sometimes :lol:
  77. PsychoSoldier

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    Mazer said:
    What am I specifically being inaccurate on?
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    More where you were insinuating that me evaluating how people handled me was meant to be misdirection. I don't really blame you for being wary of my words, of course. Nor do I think I'm like 100% right. Just don't want people to just overlook my reads just because of my alignment. You know I'm a scum hunter at heart.
  78. PsychoSoldier

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    Honestly, Cape voting Val in response to Xan voting Val is probably more a sign of TMI than anything
  79. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    For some reason the spoiler didn't work right and my text that I wrote AFTER the spoiler ended up inside it anyway. But basically, Xan could be partnered though it would be weird, GrumpyCat is probably clean.
  80. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    All these posts are in response to or about Xanjori:
    Cape90 said:
    well idk if ur familiar with me but i outed ur friend last game by existing
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    Cape90 said:
    1. Wow D:
    2. Me? No. I was in champs season 8 but not with Xanjori, im just familiar with him, along with some others here
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    Cape90 said:
    is this a joke?
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    Cape90 said:
    That read sounds like complete filler anyways.

    You could say that for any group of 6 people
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    Cape90 said:
    Listo arrived here like they have been here this whole time. It just seems like such a non opener
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    Cape90 said:
    Vote: GrumpyCat

    Down for this Claws, and Blind Ninja



    With Grumpy I found the wording of this message sus.

    With Claws they posted a lot of NAI things and then did some whatever mech talk that felt meh.

    With Blind Ninja, they feel strange. I didnt like that one comment they had to where they said they are an easy target



    I kinda townread the last line here. Like they feel really "on edge" right now and that could go either way, like I have seen a lot of scummy town do that, but at the same time I do find it scummy.

    I think rock and a hard place and Xanjori have been the towniest people so far in the game.
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    Cape90 said:
    I mean, Psycho wasn't near my first choice but,
    1. slight paranoia, like it is easy to just slap a townread there for putting in some decent stuff.
    2. I checked back at his conversation with me about rock because i thought he was being inconsistent there, but nah.

    And as of now I am getting more sketch vibes off of Psycho's treatment of GrumpyCat. Like he voted GrumpyCat in agreement with me and is now saying they are "too easy" and are now saying in their recent posts that GrumpyCat's posts were perhaps too open wolfy early on and they wouldn't be so wolfy if they were wolf.

    The problem I have with this take is I don't get the vibe that GrumpyCat was posting scummy on purpose.
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    Cape90 said:
    i totally forgot about them

    Vote: Val the Moofia Boss

    They haven't left an impression on me so im fine swapping here
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    Cape90 said:
    it would just prove i cant read
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    Cape90 said:
    Crackleslap still feels really towny, Xanjori does to, but the ladder means Xanjori is wolfing. (I don't believe this read)

    Psycho has felt very towny recently

    and finally WWA is trending a bit down for me, could see them being deepwolf, the way they handled me gave me the heeby jeebies, stuff after that felt ~fine but a bit coasty ig
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    Cape90 said:
    So overall this is where I am at

    MTR (revived)
    Cracklestep

    3puppies
    Xanjori

    GrumpyCat
    PyschoSoldier
    Claws

    CWE
    Blind Ninja

    Matthieu
    Mazer
    WindwardAway

    llettuce
    Kareemah
    Val
    FutureHold
    Listo
    Tidley
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    Cape90 said:
    cool so like, why aren't we just killing them then? I am town
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    [\spoiler]

    Kinda torn here. It's a lot of interaction if they're partners, but also a lot of it feels pretty softballed. Don't get the feeling from Cape's side they're truly evaluating each other, but I'd have to look at Xan's side to confirm that. Worth looking into, not sure it nets anything.

    Also a couple of these posts might clear Grumpy. I remember Grumpy was Cape's primary push on d1, and the fact he tried to shade me for joining that wagon reads like scum who knows I'm targeting town so has the room to make that flip.
  81. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Cape90 said:
    llettuce hasn't made major reads since Sunday. That feels coasty

    But then we have Kareemah who only had one scum read who just died in rock and was saying silly things like rock was only posting to hit postmin, like if they were doing that why would they top post? Also their non filler moved the game forward

    Tidley felt wolfy in that they "read" everything once, but hasn't provided an actual read off that, and then proceeded to talk about how they are usually better then this
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    Not sure if this is just shading for the sake of shading or if there's a partner mixed in here. It feels a bit like one of these are partnered, but I'm not too sure how much I want to read into that since he never seriously pushed any of them
  82. PsychoSoldier

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    Cape90 said:
    This opening gave me whiplash
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    Cape90 said:
    Listo arrived here like they have been here this whole time. It just seems like such a non opener
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    Cape90 said:
    listo is kinda the same story, they also feel verbally stally.

    i have my eye on blind ninja since rock died, but I am still kinda leaning town there due to threadstate of a million coasters LOL
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    Cape90 said:
    So overall this is where I am at

    MTR (revived)
    Cracklestep

    3puppies
    Xanjori

    GrumpyCat
    PyschoSoldier
    Claws

    CWE
    Blind Ninja

    Matthieu
    Mazer
    WindwardAway

    llettuce
    Kareemah
    Val
    FutureHold
    Listo
    Tidley
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    This actually might be a good look for Listo
  83. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Tildey said:
    My read of the event rules was that the bpv was only good during the event (not until the end of phase). Meaning that if you chose the BPV then you couldn’t get shot by someone that chose gun. @VoidKitten can you clarify?
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    Oh, reading it again, you're probably right. So Cape can probably still die today unless he already had a BPV
  84. PsychoSoldier

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    Claws said:
    He said he was gunna gun cape which looks helpful but who does it help other then himself we are gunna lynch cape anyways if you chose a gun i implor you to shoot psycho if he chose bpv he lied to us and how can we trust him anyways
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    This reaction, I should specify, look like he's desperately trying to draw shots to me. Town wants me dead but town knows I'm fucked and mostly can't do shit. So scum clearly wants people to shoot me instead of Cape, who probably grabbed a bpv, so that if we chop him today, he lives. The potential kill threat against them is gone and Cape gets one more night to act.

    I don't think just pushing me or saying I need to die is scummy automatically. I think emphatically pleading for people to shoot me instead of Cape is just as scum motivated as pushing to chop me instead of Cape.
  85. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Mazer's being a bit thick about it, but it's ok. I literally have nothing to gain by trying to lie about my solve. I'll die eventually and maybe you can learn to accept my help from.the grave.
  86. PsychoSoldier

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    Some of you know me and get it. You know it's true and if you don't at least vet Claws overnight, you're setting yourself up
  87. PsychoSoldier

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    Xanjori said:
    Also I dont like this, I dont think anything Claws is saying is scummy here. He is having natural thoughts for a towny and you wanting to dismiss it makes me think you are just trying to con us.
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    I mean I'm gonna die anyway and I literally said you can kill me before Claws.

    It's a regular thing that scum will go all out to kill an outed 3p, especially in the face of other scum dying. Claws visceral reaction to suddenly go for me first screams of scum trying to keep their numbers alive as long as possible. I don't really care if I die now because I'm not gonna live long anyway. But if you don't actually look at what Claws is doing when I do, you're a fool.
  88. PsychoSoldier

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    Anyway, Kill Cape, kill me whenever, and kill Claws and town stonks go way up
  89. PsychoSoldier

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    Cape lived but Wind died. That's a travesty
  90. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    I probably die soon, so just keep the above in mind
  91. PsychoSoldier

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    Claws said:
    He said he was gunna gun cape which looks helpful but who does it help other then himself we are gunna lynch cape anyways if you chose a gun i implor you to shoot psycho if he chose bpv he lied to us and how can we trust him anyways
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    Claws outing very hard I see
  92. PsychoSoldier

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    I shot Cape
  93. PsychoSoldier

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    Props to Foxxi for linking to Crackle next. Basically confirmed town and someone who could be enlightened to the vote shenanigans
  94. PsychoSoldier

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    I already said this like 2 times before by the way
  95. PsychoSoldier

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    Claws said:
    Or maybe foxxis vote goes with who she chats like a link
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    ^^^
  96. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Regardless of what you do with me, think about the people that were at least open to my offer. Scum don't want an extra kp specifically targeting them so they are almost always going to push to kill me now. Especially with Cape caught at the same time. That doesn't mean everyone who wants to kill me is scum, but I guarantee you most scum will have not seriously considered my offer at this point.

    In that sense, Wind is very likely town.
  97. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    GrumpyCat said:
    Outing targets in advance is a terrible idea if scum has bus drives or redirects and i suppose they do.
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    I can also take a pool of targets and choose from there. I was just trying to find an option that would keep me on a tighter leash so you can't say I'm picking the most scum-sided kills if I end up killing town.

    It would also be a good way to vet other people to see who they push for me to kill.
  98. PsychoSoldier

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    3puppies said:
    This is why, for the good of town, you should post your whole role card. It would assuredly get you modkilled and save us the hassle.

    All of us town could wish that you get included as an honorable mention in the winning team writeup for supporting town
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    There's no point in doing that for me, though. I want to actually play. So either we strike a deal where I use my powers for good(or keep the scum roleblocker busy/make them waste kills), I hang around nerfed but can help solve, or I just GTFO because just purposely getting myself modkilled does literally nothing for me.

    I want to either get to do something cool and unique by being an honorary town member, or force everyone to deal with taking me out. The only reason I'm even giving so much info is because I want to work with you. I don't blame anyone for not trusting me, but I'm not just gonna fall on my sword if I haven't already.
  99. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    llettuce said:
    But like you only need 2 more kills right? And you implied it will take more than 1 lynch to kill you
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    Everyone is misunderstanding my wincon, and that's probably all I can say. I still don't even know if I'll be allowed to say what I've said already
  100. PsychoSoldier

    Mafia 6 - Heart of the Cards

    Also, even if you guys decide to kill me/rb me or whatever, it's just strategically better to chop Cape today first. You know I won't die today. Cape might and will actively reduce scum numbers, especially considering we don't know if he has any dangerous powers up his sleeve.

    So even if you don't trust me, it is always more optimal to chop Cape today.
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