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How did asking Foxxi for cookie work anyway? Could you really pick an alignment?

rock meets hard place said:

If only someone had told you that BN was scum.

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You found him boss and got nightkilled. You fulfilled your duty and went to VT heaven while I had to suffer.

I mean good claim and saved Claws d1 so not that useless overall :>

So if town didnt have a kill and SK were strongman, mafia doctor was basically useless?

Thanks for game. What was Tildeys role actually? Gf?

Every sk would kill val at some point

Come on everyone you can sleep at final 4 ft it comes to it. Plz vote less than 3 hours remain.

maybe one day we will find out ;D

What you can take from it is why 3 protection roles are alright but 2 vts it ourageous

VoidKitten said:

Yes

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I believe you if was sk my path to victory would have been the same as what i am doing right now

Btw if i was scum you wouldnt find me
Gl hf

Sorry tried to tone myself down after i baited cop check on n1 the other game.

I just cant take d1 and d2 seripusly for some reason qnd go with a mindset that those games dont really start till d3

Ok lets break 3rd wall here. Do you think i am scum here VK? Juat tsll me yes or no. Dont tell me maybe or if. Thanks you dontnred to answer

VoidKitten said:

How long ago was this? It was before my time and I actually kinda like it.

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It happoened and it worked great. Day time woyld go down as game progessed.

It was like that when i joined around 2014.

Really luked the idea

Just yeet somweione today. If vou dont odss at getting scum today are 0 peercent. Otherwiset it ia more tan zero. Ez math. Gl

Why noone believes me wgen i say who scum is. I am good at finfind scum really

Sorry Listo I believe it ends like this. No matter what your alignmnet us you dud great.

Anyone remember that?

Rolecop is more of a mafia role because they already know who scum are and they are fishing for tpr.

Btw there was a cool feature back on mmoc. Day phases would get shorter as time goes by. Until day 4 those woyld be 48h but around day 4 it would go down to 36h and around day 6 it would be 24 h days.

Cop might have innocent on sk but i dont remember if rolecop was ever a town role.

Listo95 said:

Still not da Madame.

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Yeah it is Mazer. he killed mathhieu because mathhieu would ask if SK has other actions than kill. And he would be told that mazer can give cookies with one hand and take lives on other player with the other one.

*Broke - I cant take it out of my mind

I think it is Listo however Vals edited claim you are an SK brothe this games evaluation for me sorry.

And dont worry Val nothing against you. I would probally try to get any info out whenever possible. you did great.

If Listo is town and this is one of you tean town loses. BN said he won;t vote you and you said maybe it is BNI guess. Whatever.

So be it

Unvote:
Vote: Listo

If scum wins this well played keeping rajah players.

What do you think Mazer? Would you rather vote me or with me?

Blind Ninja said:

been hard to think about the game, but have been trying to be here and do things.

Going to lay down for a nap, but I might not wake up before deadline. This cold has been kicking my ass.

im between Satsu and listo. Feel listo is a lot less likely then satsu

Vote: Satsu

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Tell me how I am Sk this game without saying rolecop would get vanilla town on SK.

VoidKitten said:

If I am killed, that doesn't clear BN as you are saying there could be one between us.

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It doesn't but I voted BN yesterday so I can still blame town that didnt follow me. too bad.

Why does my vote count for 2 on discord any way? Did mu delionious cookie gove me superpowers?

Ok then clock is ticking. Plz pick you side. I am willing to bote VK BN or Listo. I am not going to seld vote.

I will twll you something. I played like 40+ of those forum mafia games and I never ever rolled an SK. i have no idea how i would play as an SK. But not like this

I dont think you are a SK duo. I think there could be a scum betwwen you. i already posted my odds for sk.

I like how you know it is mechanically best play but you wont have it

I am going to vote listo tommorow if bn is the sk than he can have it. I did what i coyld.

If listo is sk he already lost unless he has a collar

Listo95 said:

Dere be only 6 alive. Da SK being in VK/BN means not lynching one o dem today be a town loss.

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true

Its OK. If you yeet me today you still have about 65% for win tommorow if you vote Listo. 15/15% on BN/VK vote. And maybe 5% on that is left from MTR / Mazer.

And if BN and VK are SK duo that die together and count as 1 threat then you have a Foxxi game ;p

Let me help you a bit.

Best mechanical play to do today is to yeet VK. BN said yesterday and today that he will not vote VK.

If VK is the SK then BN will lose it in final 3.
If Listo is the SK he is yeeted tommorow.
If BN is an SK than this game would be won yesterday. Sadly some players would rather ... sleep??

What do you think is the way to go?

You think I am an SK right?

Val was confirmed town, got a rolecop on VK on night that Rock died, confirmed by VK.
Matthieu kill kill was unreasonable.

VoidKitten said:

Why are there three protection roles in this game if there has only really been one kill a night?

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Mafia had a doc to protect them from Crackle and you. Town has rolestoper and JK to protect from mafia and make the game less power heavy.

I don't think there is really a point in guessing why was the setup made like this. Maybe it was designed to not make sense on purpose ^^

MTR said:

Not going to lie. I am leaning Satsu as well with the theory he had a GF type protection from investigation.

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So rolecop would get vt on gf and sk. Doc and medical examiner on mafia. It is like how can they get scum then. Why are they in game for?

Listo95 said:

It is literally NOT Madame Listo.

Vote: BN

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Ok I think the spirit made his mind on who is the SK. But maybe you would like to switch to VK today.

Fucker jumped me last game and broke my 7 games without geting yeeted streak. And this game he tries to CFD me d1. the audacity.
I am going to have my revenge in this game or the next so why wait.

Vote: VK

You can concede after that. There is no way for you to win it even with a day kill.

Mazer said:

The Claws stands out some since he was probably going to be a target. Not as likely as xan. Who would have wanted claws dead?

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If SK can kill through blocks and protects then Claws is an odd kill. Would make more sense to just keep him to distract scum team with a doc.

Might be someone who can read Claws well and got a solid scum read on him. Doc would make a difficult yeet so they had to die.

He was afraid to eat if if i remember.

VoidKitten said:

So, probably was good for me and I ate the cookie. I was then told it was dry and the flavor was unidentifiable. I then cursed you out.

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I just ate mine. Was delicious. Good ppl get good cookies.

I think from last day progression it makes sense what vk bn did. It is more likely to be Listo.

However mechanically it would still be a better play to go vk or bn first. If listo flips town they can prevent a majority together tommorow. Listo cant do anything on his own.

This should be auto anyway. Do you want to drag this out Listo?

VoidKitten said:

I have so many questions about Matthieu. Why was he killed? Why can he come up with amazing stories but had to ask the most indirect questions ever.

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Strange kill. He was in poe. What kind of question could he ask that would make him more a threat than mtr and mazer confirmed town that cant do anything really.

Seriously if you sleep here I hope I die like everyone that came in contact with a cookie ><

I dont think you are town so no.

No it isn't. Better to yeet. There are 3 chances now and there would be 2 is this ends in sleep.

Sorry BN I can find a reason on everyone else they might not be an SK. but can't find one on you.

Vote: Blind Ninja

Blind Ninja said:

Not really sure where to go myself. We are in a good spot and can likely vote sleep to give better numbers going into tomorrow.

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How is less town better numbers? I was thinking about voting VK first because Val could have a result on you that might be different from what he had on VK.

Two mason neighbour teams made entirely out of town seem weird.

Matthieu said:

In a specific number total, how many roles are present in the game that are hostile to town aligned players?

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I am saying you didnt ask how many VTs are in game. I know you asked how many hostiles there are. Thats my point.

Mazer said:

Who do we think has the most believable story right now between matt and listo?

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I didnt like when Matthieu outed his question about VTs. He forgot to ask how many there are when he could ask how many threats there are.

So he went with "there are vts in game". Could be a way to say something but not too much.

However with everyone claimed that wouldnt work anyway because it was ment there are vts in game. Plural. This would still confirm me so he made another version. "vt is a role that is in game" or something. This felt super slimy. maybe I am biased because it was so so easy to do.

No wait there is enough time for SK to kill all 3. So the kill order is what would make a difference.

Mazer said:

What do you think of the theory that void and blind ninja could be flipping status.

That is also a good question? Would Matt kill val?

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If we could call Val Mazer MTR confirmed town then he would have to go with one to final 3. Not enough time no nk all.

My guess would be that he would maybe want to go with Val. Hard to tell.

Mazer shouldnt be an SK because he vistited Claws on night Rock died and me last night when Val died.
MTR shouldnt be an SK because he visited Mazer on night Claws died, confirmed by Mazer.
VK is less likely to be an SK because he was jailed on night Rock died. There is a chance he could strongman from jail or use some amplify. Can't be rulled out completely.

Matthieu said:

Sorry, I didn't get the opportunity to ask a question since someone tried to break into my apartment. >_>

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Night lasted whole duration and killing Val right now seems like something matthieu wouldnt normally do. Could still be a play though.

Vote: Tildey

I think you did well.
Your pushes on me were kind of cute. 4 stars.

Val Mazer MTR - not sk
VK - unlikely sk
Listo - doesnt seem like Sk, but could be
Matt BN - SK PoE

MTR is confirmed by Mazer as not sk because he didnt get his own cookie right?

Mazer said:

Yeah....thinking about it again.

Here's the order:

Scum:
Tildey

Serial Killer:
People who have unverified abilities (if you're rolestopping, you're probably not able to kill)
Deep cut theories

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If Tildey is mafia and there is an SK for me it would be

Val Mazer - not sk
Listo VK - unlikely sk
MTR Matt BN - SK in there.

Tildey said:

I absolutely do not have any actions available to me for tonight

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You shound not have any actions available on any night. But yeah I think most players will know what you mean.

If there are 2 scum and 1 night kill we have 2 misyeets to lylo?

So I understand that from options like

Tildey
One of BN/VK
Matthieu

You would rather do option 1?

Mazer said:

Will satsu ever get a cookie?

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If I dont get a cookie there will be consequences next game. Beware

Val the Moofia Boss said:

Satsu is vanilla town.

Thanks for the cookie.

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See its that easy.

Btw does Foxxi keep reminding you that you have it?

Or is it only Claws that needs a little help to figure out such complicated things as getting a cookie?

VoidKitten said:

Matthieu - Oracle
N1: Hostile to town - 4
N2: Do VTs exist - Yes
N3: Makeup of hostiles - at least 1 of them is a 3p
N4: Any roles that affect actions - None

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He said at least one of 3 hostiles is not aligned with mafia. I know it was 4 hostiles previously but whatever. So it could be 11/2/2 setup?

Xan said Rock was killed by an SK but he flipped scum so could say whatever.

Also did Crackle claim compulsive killer and not compulsive serial killer? Could Rock be Crackle kill? Any thoughts Madam Listo?

Blind Ninja said:

If Void was jailed N1, could he be the SK? That should more or less clear him of that.

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No not likely an Sk.

Xan said Rock was killed by SK. He could have lied ofc, but why lie as mafia to clear someone from being SK.

Also it looks good for Listo as not SK if he clears others from being an SK. He could have burried VK here.

Ok keep caln carry on
Unvote:

I am limited with my tolerance to bs.
Vote: matthieu

VoidKitten said:

Why? Dear god why?

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Yeah the question was so dumb that mod replied with one word and didnt even bother to use capital letter.

Why didnt i get a cookie then. Do you hate me mazer?

Youv rolestoped me right? I wanted that cookie.

Listo95 said:

Da spirits be sayin' dere no way to confirm da action you be takin eitha.

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He is confirmed to have shared thread with BN. What they did isn't.

VoidKitten said:

There are only two people without confirmable roles who can be the SK, assuming Xan and Tildey are partnered with Claws.

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Matthieu and Listo? What do you mean by confirmable?

Listo95 said:

While Madame Listo's action be impossible ta confirm. Da spirit of Crackle tell me dat Badger be jailin' Mazer N2.

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It is more like your roles are to similar to both be town.
When town has a backup in case anyway.

Sure N2 on Mazer was clear as day.
N1 wasn't.

Matthieu said:

For what it's worth, Xanjori, if you do flip town then I agree that looking more closely at Void is a necessity and I urge people to do as much if that's the case.

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Wouldnt look that great for listo as well.

We ll find out soon enough.

Do you think scum roles are fake or they actually have those roles but can use factional kill instead?

I wanted one. Dont be selfish gimme a cookie

Noted.
Unvote:
Vote: xanjori

Make your required posts and a vote. If someone ninja hammers i dont mind.

Ok Xan if you flip town who would you like me to vote on tommorow?

I tking xan is a hit.

What would it be otherwise? Val mtr claws and a sk in bn vk listo mazer?

Like at 4 votes

Thats a required vote. I think xan is like at already.

Vote: Tildey

Xan great choice too. I would rather let mafia deal with SK. Killed Clawsie, dont you want to punish?

Xanjori said:

Has Val role copped you and confirmed this?

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He didnt but he could. Better pick than to see if doctor is a doctor as doctor isnt alignment indicative but vt is.

And Listo could ask Badger who he jailed n1. I ISOd badger and I am not 100% convinced it was VK. Could anso ask him how his role works.

Matthieu could ask if there are masons in game. Doesn't even need to ask how many :>

Xanjori said:

I have never played a game in which actions go through on a jailed target. Even ToS works that way

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I also thought that jailkeeper blocks targets action and all actions on target. Wiki says that would be non standard. Got to trust wiki then.

Xanjori said:

Why arent you examining people like Satsu and Tildey who have the least confirmable claims?

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I have a super confirmable claim unless you think there is a mafia role called vanilla town. Like there was a town role called serial killer like crackle said

Wait val got rolecop result on him in jail?

He cant be he was jailed by badger n1 right?

Did you random thing him vk or did he eat the cookie?

Tildey said:

Where is Matthieu? I feel like we haven’t heard from him since day began. And did we ever get Satsu’s D3 read on him?

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Matthieu obviously scum with you and xan.

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Vote: badger

Yeah if it is an sk game then vk bn mazer would fit the best if it is a 4 player mafia team vk wouldnt be my first pick to be in it.

Lets hope it gets easier when first scum puzzle piece falls.

btw Mazer, since Claws is such a scaredy cat could you give me a cookie tonight? I will eat it!

Xanjori said:

Sorry super busy Saturday, will be more active tomorrow.

But Im confused how VK can even pretend theres something wrong with my claim? In a game with no reveals on flips a Medical Examiner is a perfectly common role. At this point you're reaching so hard its becoming pretty outting

Vote: VoidKitten

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I dont a reason to doubt that it is your role. but the role itself works well both as town and scum role.

Who do you think VK is? mafia? Would he be with BN then or he is just playing him? VK doesnt fit as mafia for me right now. :<

Dont get me wrong i still think this is a fine set up and i got a cookie without asking because vt is my favourite role.