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  1. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    That was not my intention.

    I could be wrong, but in my view, you were underselling yourself and taking suss personally.

    You might feel you are not to that level. I feel like you have pulled enough big wins over the years, that people will be reserved. You did bring me up on failing to read you correctly. I felt I was telling you why. Game aside, it would have felt wrong not to ignore you talking about me.

    After he man, I complimented. I didn't complain that you compared yourself to md negatively. I felt bad there. And I've always been truthful. I did consider you might be the purple or mystery yellow, but for most of the game that didn't feel right, because of your emotion. When people asked why i read you, i answered honestly. I don't predict you doing the "mazer is this and that" again. And that was not a serial killer or whatever response. Even with that, there was a day where I started to tinfoil frustrated 3rd party. Because you could pull it off.

    If most other people are in a fight, I would have been ok with seeing them become ingrained against the other, or just gotten annoyed. I obviously should have just stayed out of it.

    Obviously, my intention was not something that conveyed well in a randomly assigned mafia game. I thought I could break character and it would be good. It was not.

    So one more big misread for mazer.
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    It may have not been your intention and know we’re all big boys and this is just an internet game but just so you realise the whole “I’m not gonna forgeeet” thing when already reminded about my shit felt manipulative when you should have had an idea I was really anxious.

    Look mate I won’t “Badger” you over this and miscommunication can happen but it felt (possibly not your intention) knowing the tone of my posts over that period of time especially over Xmas time if you know your history was bad timing.

    This is why I wonder sometimes if you can really read me.

    Anyway let’s not Coronation Street this lol. Well done scummy bastards!! 🍺🍺
  2. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    It won't happen again. Claws can have free reign.
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    I know I’m my own worst enemy and wouldn’t have even minded the Teela reference but surely you out of everyone even knowing me knowing how emotional was getting reminding me all of the madterstokes but the “I’m not gonna let you forget it if you flip scum” really irked me….

    But at the same time I know I’m not the smartest or eloquent bloke…but still feel a bit like I’m being singled out for masterstrokes when we’ve all done masterstrokes in our time. I know I do that shit, but just feels like A. You know that and B. Winding me up because your speech actually had me in tears til that “Am I lying Badger?” shit. And here you are fucking scum!

    So yes game is game but just felt you were getting a whole emotional rise out of me bringing all that up writing that up just to get a rise out of me.
  3. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    In fairness, me not wanting you and claws telling each other to fuck off and having matthieu's being a dick come up.... was not about this game.

    The personal insult stuff is getting a little too consistent for me.
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    Yeah I know and why was that my fault anyway? Claws said I was taking the piss out of Matthieu like I was a bully to him when Matthieu was using ME as his blustery take out leaving the site because I didn’t flip scum.

    @Mazer ….you know I’m an emotional bloke more than most…but you giving me that whole emotional speech about getting back into the game, even selling me on the fact that you would not let me forgetting it…but you know my anxiety so maybe you did or didn’t know but that whole speech when I was struggling not you letting me forget if I flipped scum….just felt like you taking the piss out of me ya dig? Point is…you knew/know I am struggling and you planting the seed in not letting me not forget me being scum knowing how emotional I was getting and reminding me about those “masterstokes”…then look what happens…Badger got gamed for believing you might be town and can’t focus on your play because…you fucking put the guilt-trip on me. Dirtyyy playyy!!!So here is an idea why I may not be entirely pleased…good day sir.
  4. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Caito has it on Easy Street from CWE compared to what is coming from you anytime, anyplace, anywhere…

    But congrats anyway I guess!!
  5. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    I thought you were good after day 1. I have long been on record on saying I don't like to see the frustrated, mad card on here.

    And as I said, it's not fair to get mad when people suss people early. I've had the last however many games as town and claws, 3pups, etc will ALWAYS vote me early. Me saying it can be frustrating is genuine. My comments to you day 1 were genuine.

    I never asked anyone to give me any read based on anything than gameplay. The post you quote is true. You played well that game, and made several self deprecating posts that genuinely made me not feel great about winning a vote. To the point of me posting hbk/flair gifs. I didn't understand that me mentioning that would trigger something. I did have to have real.explanation when people were asking me about you. And I responded to them in a true way. I did not intend for it to come across differently.

    Ive been pretty consistent in how I've discussed people playing the "real life" card to get votes. If frustration comes out happens, but making people feel down to win us not something I like.

    It's why I put down rock, even though he was town, two games ago.

    In playing I was saying things that were true, when asked or one time when things got heated. And that was an honest attempt at deescalation, as things had gotten personal between you and claws.

    I had no intent otherwise, and apologize if it was received differently .
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    That is all very good and I give you a hearty handshake…

    But as much as you said I might have been scum and the speech you gave me when I was pissed about being pre-judged…Badger will not forget this!
  6. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    I thought you were good after day 1. I have long been on record on saying I don't like to see the frustrated, mad card on here.

    And as I said, it's not fair to get mad when people suss people early. I've had the last however many games as town and claws, 3pups, etc will ALWAYS vote me early. Me saying it can be frustrating is genuine. My comments to you day 1 were genuine.

    I never asked anyone to give me any read based on anything than gameplay. The post you quote is true. You played well that game, and made several self deprecating posts that genuinely made me not feel great about winning a vote. To the point of me posting hbk/flair gifs. I didn't understand that me mentioning that would trigger something. I did have to have real.explanation when people were asking me about you. And I responded to them in a true way. I did not intend for it to come across differently.

    Ive been pretty consistent in how I've discussed people playing the "real life" card to get votes. If frustration comes out happens, but making people feel down to win us not something I like.

    It's why I put down rock, even though he was town, two games ago.

    In playing I was saying things that were true, when asked or one time when things got heated. And that was an honest attempt at deescalation, as things had gotten personal between you and claws.

    I had no intent otherwise, and apologize if it was received differently .
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    I was fine and am trying to pick up the pieces…but let it be known your time will come sir plus @CWE…you were right! Spider-Man this web to fuck lol
  7. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Thanks @Nightingale

    I’m sorry your game is going to be responsible for @Mazer post-game by tuberculosis and some raging fists but great game anyway dear xx
  8. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    Not an unfair point. I've known Badger a long time, and I strongly believe he is town. Frankly, I don't even like why I know, because I didn't like the day 1 interaction. Badger also knows if he pulls that ATE as a scum, like he did a much lesser version of 1 time, and for the next several games afterwards he will know no peace.

    Am I lying Badger?
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    Ohhh dangerous statement @Mazer My heart is damaged and yes you got the win knowing full well I was town and struggling with emotions. Just going to say well done sir but expect an RKO…
  9. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    But I shall serve him a dish iiiiiiucee coooold. Like the RKO….he will see it coming yet not see it coming!!!
  10. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Should’ve listened to me
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    Fuck off Future…you were acting scummy.

    My oldest friend pulled the ultimate heel act so please back off.
  11. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    We had essentially a trap.

    If a doc targeted someone, that person would die.
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    Not blaming you…my oldest friend (although quite magnificently)…knifed me like Rollins to Reigns, after that whole speech about keeping on eye for the next few games.

    Eeeeeeevillll I tells ya….eeeeevilllll!!!
  12. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I hope you’re happy…you broke Badger!!!
  13. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Mazer…after the ATE talk you gave me….my heart is currently crushed!
  14. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Fucking guuuuutteeedddd!!!!

    @Mazer is eeeeevillllllll, Badger is trying to remove this knife from my back. Somebody hug me!

    And had this what I what was a perfect theorem of Listo being blown up because the Antwerp who I thought was Dreyski cut him up….

    My world just does not make sense anymore at the moment….betrayed Maze betrayed
  15. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Teela was my role in a He-Man game. I was on the yellow scum team but I didn’t know my partners were but they knew me. They could do things like essentially control my votes, give commands and stuff. It was like a sickness. If the right person found me I’d be town completely otherwise stay yellow scum.

    I honestly did try to townside to begin with before the shenanigans of fooling Mazer and going down the scum path because wasn’t confident I was going to be found and made town.
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    @Xanjori
  16. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    I need peoples opinions on what a teela is, I dont understand it
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    I covered it earlier…two secs
  17. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    Why is Badger alive?
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    Maybe someone up there likes me?
  18. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Still the DRE(yski) has time to vote!
  19. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Me or? Tildey? I’m pretty damn confident with my POE right now
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    You
  20. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    So you think it’s more likely that as quick as his responses are coming that another scum team member is telling him what to post?
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    Well not blow by blow, word for word script but could be a rough plan by the team. You never know.
  21. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I said “could be”

    You’ve changed your mind so many times it’s hard to tell town frustration or even your own scum volition.
  22. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    Despite his weird ass post here I haven’t changed my reasons for leaning town on him. I don’t think he has yet developed the skill to play this level of a scum game.
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    I dunno though…he could be getting coached to play this way though.
  23. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    @Badger would you consider voting bn and why
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    As of this point I’d rather vote Future today. BN’s action being successful is a curious thing. There’s equity in both I guess but knowing my action failed, two town actions failing out of four visits hmmm dunno about that.

    He is engaging more as Tildey has mentioned but he’s been inconsistent in his arguments and reads. I don’t know if that should buy him another day though. We can always look at BN after.
  24. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    Vote: Blind Ninja

    Maybe
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    Up to you but we need 5. Currently 3 each and time is matching on. We can maybe look at BN

    Need a yeet, can’t let other scum split the trains. I think we find more out by yeeting Future and we’ll see what may.
  25. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    If I am to die I want to get my POEs out of the way

    I’ve already made my case on my first POE, BN. I won’t explain any more than I already have

    My second is Drey, I don’t appreciate the silence or lack of solving from Drey, I can presume I am not the only one who suspects Drey

    Now this third one may come to as a shock. But you shall listen to me carefully.

    What man who is aware of the House of MTR tactics simply falls for them? When he has not been victim to them before.

    What man takes control of the conversation? When he has not been cleared.

    That’s right, Mazer. This is a big bombshell for me to drop so I’ll leave those preliminary reads there.
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    So I see Future is choosing to be yeeted kicking and screaming style! Wouldn’t have it any other way! 😂😂
  26. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    All this time you probably thought Diamond Cutter. Even teased the punt but nah I’m not cruel. RKO every time. 👍
  27. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    That’s rude. I couldn’t even sell it right
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    Okay clearly more time needed in the Performance Centre for this chap!
  28. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    #2 RKO I must plan out carefully. Maybe if I ever make it to a PPV over the pond. 🤔🤔
  29. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Sorry Tildey he’ll be fine by the morning I’m sure.
  30. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Now he can nap!

    You saw it coming and it still works! XD
  31. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    seth rollins wrestling GIF by WWE
  32. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I was gonna insert Future as a triple threat into the MTR/Claws nap-off but he’s too awake now. 😉
  33. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    Oh man, what I would do for 7 consecutive hours of sleep. I can’t remember the last time I got that.
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    I must stress if I’m lucky because some nights I only get 4-5. Noisy city centre flat and pigeons/seagulls outside my bedroom window.
  34. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    Definitely not free either
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    Yeah JP University especially. Still paying off my student loans from my time there.
  35. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    12 hours is impressive though. I’m lucky if I get 7 a night to be honest.
  36. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    MTR vs Claws….Nap-off!!!

    Coming soon to a bedroom or couch (venue tbd) and on ESPN.
  37. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    I guess with MTR dead someone has to take over his his nap responsibilities. :lol:
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    Okay no matter Tildey’s alignment…THIS is a keeper!! 😂😂😂
  38. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer would also recommend the course.

    JP University is another institution.
  39. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    Was something free of cost to you?
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    Yeah kangus got us free scholarships and scum lessons lol
  40. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    There was no order
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    Thanks Claws. 👍
  41. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I think it also kinda depends on how one interprets BN’s answer to my question. He did take some time and was the last of us to say whether our actions are successful? Is BN telling the truth? If his action is successful like he says it is, what do we think it might be? Did he have to say this because Future as well as myself claimed our actions weren’t successful so having three might sound odd. Is Future lying and been taking secret lessons at the kangus Scum Academy (it’s a good course, I recommend it) and pulling the wool over our eyes?
  42. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Yeah it’s a tricky one. There was a Zera character mentioned at some point that could throw things off. And yeah she is meticulous absolutely.
  43. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    It reads as tmi. We've played dozens of games now, and I've never seen someone read order of operations read into a watcher target.

    Future came in with "we all failed" and had a specific interpretation.

    I'm also a little thrown off that tildey seemed amenable to my read that mtr had an agenda, but is now explaining future's post readings for him and hard defense.

    I'm also not sold thar we have a total of 4 out of 15 as non town. Foxxi is obsessive with planning. And while I can't rule out the possibility that it's right, it would be in contrast to all the discussions on game building, particularly if the 3rd party has a kill action.

    Basically, I feel like we're being irresponsible loose. Like void in Ghostbusters refusing to take the highest shot until I had to beg him as a stump.


    If future is dirty, it's not a good look for tildey. If he's clean, maybe the ratio is lower, and blind ninja is likely next up.
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    I love the Ghostbusters reference!

    But yeah thanks. 👍
  44. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’ll have a think about it. Meanwhile I hand the microphone to @Mazer now that everyone has answered.
  45. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    I assume my action was successful as I didnt get told it failed. Ive given what I could and know at least 1 could act.
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    Okay.

    Will chew this over some more.
  46. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    That’s the one
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    Cheers.

    Yeah agreed. 👍
  47. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    4 scum would seem way too many.

    There is no doubt some trickery too though. Bastard mod and all that. That purple “Zara” character you pointed out for example. Still not sure what that’s about.
  48. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    @Badger and @Mazer while we’re waiting, thoughts on my earlier musings regarding how many bad guys we’re hunting?
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    Tildey said:
    Have we decided how many scum we think we’re hunting? We started with 15 people, right? So I’m thinking no more than 4 scum. But 4 scum plus a 3p/SK feels wrong (I am not an expert on game balance so someone tell me if I’m wrong). That makes me think we started with 3 scum, 1 3p, & 11 town. Which prolly means the purple character that showed up out of nowhere didn’t mean anything. If that’s correct, then with MTRs flip we are still looking for 2 scum and a 3p. Right?
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    This post here @Tildey?

    I also believe we are hunting for 2 scum and a 3p. 👍
  49. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I also agree that that likely was a continuation of his thought process but still we’ll see. Will wait for BN
  50. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    BN’s testimony is definitely crucial here. 👍
  51. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    I think when I was watcher I wasn’t given an order.

    But I know sometimes order of visits do matter when multiple people target
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    In a way yes order of actions is important when writing up the order as a mod for example. As far as I understand, Claws can only see all who visited making it trickier to determine the actions/make a guess but maybe he can clarify. 👍
  52. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    I'd love to get from blind ninja and tildey before I give mine.

    There's a trend between this and another point that I want to make sure isn't only in my head.

    The answer seems so obvious that I'm not sure if I'm getting blinders or seeing deflection.
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    Understandable that you want to wait on BN and Tildey. 👍
  53. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    @Badger, but I'm thinking we may be aligned. It's a gift we sometimes have.
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    Indeed. 👍
  54. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’ll also vouch in that I’ve never run a game where that kind of role where order of visits was important. Maybe there’s a modifier or something that Claws may or may not be able to clarify.
  55. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Dreyski @Xanjori

    What’s your guys take as well?
  56. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    @Badger

    How do you read this?

    Same question to blind ninja.


    Probably also tildey at this point
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    Oh and should also return the question to you and ask for your interpretation. 👍
  57. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Also not to mention what is Claws’s take right now which is also important. 👍
  58. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    EVWOP “would also be weird”
  59. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    @Badger

    How do you read this?

    Same question to blind ninja.


    Probably also tildey at this point
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    Hmmm “it would all be weird.”

    I can’t say I’m a huge fan of it. It’s almost like he’s trying to cover up why there may be more than one failed action but may be reading that wrong. Tildey seems high on him and interested to what BN has to say
  60. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Unless you want to be special guest refereeeeeee. 😉😉

    You get back to me. 👍
  61. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Mazer you’re in charge of planning how the match should go plus merchandise sales. 👍
  62. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Buuut at least he has moxie!
  63. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    If I’m wrong, I’m definitely willing to thunderdome with Badger the next day
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    If that match happens, then it will be streamed live on WWE Network/Peacock. Might not just be the RKO this time but maybe another weapon in Orton’s arsenal. ;)
  64. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m also a bit curious why BN didn’t give a straight answer to whether his action was successful or not. Curious on that response too.
  65. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Thank you. :yes:
  66. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    All of the above “thinking out loud” exercise is to say that I want to check some ISOs from the people on Claws’ list before I answer your question @Badger. But I also wanted to clarify my thought processes before starting that project.
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    That’s fine. 👍
  67. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    Is the question what do I think out of the people claws saw?
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    Yes.
  68. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Also quite keen on what more BN can say.
  69. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Also same question to @Mazer once he’s had a chance to catch up. :yes:
  70. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    But I digress.

    Anyway Tildey out of the Claws options, what are you thinking.
  71. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    And of course….the site owner was town , silenced and also armed and loaded.
  72. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    70% of my posts in that scum chat as soon as I figured out who kumquat was is “GET RID OF HER NOW!” 😂😂
  73. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    There’s also the fact if I was scum, I would want to obliterate Mazer just as much as I did our hostess here the last time I was scum and you’re still here Mazer. ;)
  74. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    Im in and out of it... have a question to Foxxi to see if what I want to say is too much or not
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    Okay doke.
  75. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    To be fair, I never said I didn't have a clue. I said I was on the fence. At that point in time he had not done anything to tip my scales one way or the other.
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    Okay I suppose that is fair. I’ve also read your MTR breakdown too and I will take your for it for now.

    So it seems it may turn into a choice between BN, Future and myself. We indeed can’t say what we did. All the more I’m going to say is suggest that people do ISOs and try and get a feel for our posts. Future pointed out vote placement already but see if you guys can get a glean.

    The only other defence I have at this point is if I flip scum, Mazer will never eveeeeeerrrrrr[/Jericho] let me forget it. I know I can be sometimes fluffy or manipulative as scum but D1 in particular was essentially me unpacking years of frustration about being pre-judged before Mazer put things in perspective for me. I wouldn’t be this frustrated as scum but you all can be the judge of that.
  76. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    We already know that, since Claws said they saw you visit listo.

    But I also know that nobody can really say what they were doing there.
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    That is true. However Future and I have said our actions are not successful.

    Assuming you are sleeping now but when you wake up, can you say if your action was successful or not?
  77. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Tildey I’ll take all that into consideration. Gonna sleep on this for now. 👍
  78. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    If we’re both telling the truth, then Listo as I theorised may have triggered his own death somehow. Or Tildey’s misreading the Antwerp flavour or something.

    It’s a headscratcher.
  79. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    And was your action successful? Or can you not say?
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    My action was not successful.
  80. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Between you and BN, I pick you. BN has the better town vibes than you right now. Other than your D1 approach. I would love to point out that your switch from MTR to Val seemed to be at an opportune point. You were one of the middle Val votes. Same thing for the Morrison vote, changing from me to Morrison and being in the middle.

    While my MTR vote wasn’t opportune, let’s not act like I’m the only one who was in the wrong trains the first 2 days.

    As for D3, BN also didn’t vote, so I’m not alone in that boat either.

    It’s also noteworthy that BN hopped on the Val train immediately after your vote and cemented that train in other words. Which would be a knock against BN tbh.

    But BN kickstarting the Morrison train D1 isn’t suspicious to me because BN going after inactives is so NAI, it doesn’t matter.
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    The Val vote does look bad and was wondering if that would be brought up. We were stuck for options.

    Voting you was a D1 feel. Switching to Morrison, he wasn’t contributing.

    They were both dead weight essentially. It wasn’t opportune.
  81. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay I had to check if I was allowed to say this. I cannot go into further detail but I can say I did visit Listo last night.
  82. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Vote: Badger

    Gonna badger Badger on this. I’ll keep talking but I want to know why we were all there
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    Any particular reason or is this just OMGUS again?
  83. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    I didn't play that game. What does this mean?
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    Teela was my role in a He-Man game. I was on the yellow scum team but I didn’t know my partners were but they knew me. They could do things like essentially control my votes, give commands and stuff. It was like a sickness. If the right person found me I’d be town completely otherwise stay yellow scum.

    I honestly did try to townside to begin with before the shenanigans of fooling Mazer and going down the scum path because wasn’t confident I was going to be found and made town.
  84. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I agree on the fact he would’ve said something in the result of a poison.

    Well if it’s not a Mafia kill (if they killed Insaner) nor an SK kill on Listo…then the only thing that might make sense if his death not being caused by someone targeting him…but maybe he picked the wrong target and they had something on them to trigger his death.
  85. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    How many was it that Claws saw again?
  86. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Then QT Marshall started using it…yeah.

    The moveth not maketh the man. The man (DDP) maketh the Diamond Cutter moveth famouth!!!!

    Sorry, that just sounds like Sylvester lol.
  87. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Although…there’s loads of different angles you can hit the Diamond Cutter from too. Almost from like anywhere.
  88. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    An RKO only works if I’m not expecting it
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    Damn…..foiled!

    How about a Diamond Cutter then?
  89. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Why counter someone whos done nothing id rather a spicy badger or bn over tildey however maybe the whole house is scummy
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    This one….

    I’ll just swat on the back of the head with a rolled up newspaper and maybe a bit late feeding him Felix cat food.
  90. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    I’ve been a little busy, but I don’t think Tildey and I are scum. I believe we are both town.

    If I was to pick someone as possibly scum, I would probably go for Badger because he keeps badgering me
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    Well D1 I did maybe, then tried to give you a chance. Now I’m gonna have to RKO you…again!

    Oh little bro…
  91. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    I say this is a mistake. I know things don’t look great for me. But MTR’s scum buddy I am not
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    Okay so…

    Who’s your reads then?
  92. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    L-2 so yeah let’s cool for the time being.
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    I stand corrected said the man in orthopaedic shoes.

    L-3. Yeah Dreyski you’re correct.
  93. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Tildey when you get round to it, would you consider voting for Future now?
  94. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    See? Quoted it twice for the two swimming pools!
  95. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    Just kidding, needed the money to fund my second swimming pool

    Unvote:
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    Xanjori said:
    Just kidding, needed the money to fund my second swimming pool

    Unvote:
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  96. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @ForgottenHold what say you?
  97. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    L-2 so yeah let’s cool for the time being.
  98. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    I'm reading this as you saying the drawback on future is that tildey (who you think is scum) thinks his town tells have gotten better?

    I would have been closer on this, but claws saw Future as one of the people who visited Listo last night. And we definitely know who mtr was.


    Admittedly, I read through all mtr's posts, and because of that I'm also reading heavy on his biggest pattern.
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    Okay. I understand better now. :yes:

    I’ll hitch onto this.

    Vote: Future

    But yeah let’s not rush this as we still need to hear from both.
  99. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    EBWOP to drawback post. Tildey could also be non-town telling the truth about a town Future. As I said at the outset of this phase though, I may change for when we converge to one train.
  100. Badger

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    We definitely need to hear more from both parties though.
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