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  1. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Im actually gonna move Listo to towncore, I have to agree with him that he is most likely town here.

    Listo do you have thoughts around who you think is definitely town?
    Claws/Badger would be my top 2 right now more than likely. Drey/Future/Insaner are prolly my top scum suspects.
  2. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Also pretty much anyone can tell you, I can't fucking push people. I can't explain shit. I gave my reasoning you said it wasn't good enough.
  3. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I actually asked you to try and sell me on your MTR push, remember that? I'm curious why you didn't try to push him without claiming first.
    I literally gave my reasoning last day phase. and I OPENED the day with a vote on him. Put 2+2 together.
  4. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Like if you genuinely think I would bus in this matter do you even know me.
  5. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    So you're either mafia or town to played suboptimally
    And yet half the fucking game was not wanting to vote him without good reason.
  6. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I understand. I think it's fine if people want to town read Listo for other reasons, though I really don't think that what I'm saying about burying already dead wolves not being clearing should be controversial.

    Well, if Listo is indeed mafia like I'm suspecting then he certainly made the right move for the right audience. I guess that's all that can be said about that.
    lol.
  7. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Listo has been sitting on the MTR vote since he showed up D2... so he likely had deets from N1, but hadnt stated deets til today. At least looking at votes, is my assumption.
    Nope. Got last night. Yesterday was purely for vote location.
  8. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I don't get why you'd jump to immediately town reading Listo for claiming deets on an already dying wolf (assuming MTR is indeed a wolf)
    Yet so many people haven't wanted to vote him :D
  9. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I pretty much already said what my deets were.
  10. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Not what I was waiting for :D
  11. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    That's interesting. I would need to ISO to validate but I have felt a bit like you've been bouncing around between House members since D1 (with varying levels of reasoning). To me, its almost seemed like you were trying to take temperatures to see where you may be able to lay seeds for a mislynch.
    Bored Hurry Up GIF by Pudgy Penguins
  12. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Look at ANYONE who has been defending MTR this phase. Assuming he is mafia and not the 3p.
  13. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Oh fuck this. I have deets on MTR.
  14. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Right, you're going to have to convince me to vote MTR because I don't see anything scummy in his posts today. I'll admit to emphathising a bit because as a dad, I too know the pull of a horizontal surface large enough to lie on.
    *Listo will remember this*
  15. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m also genuinely undecided if it’s a possibility all the House are town. Still getting a bit of paranoia there’s one but will wait and see how things go.
    I'm pretty sure the entire house is not all town. Would not be shocked if 2 of them are scum.
  16. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    God where are Foxxi/Void to see what I'm talking about -.-
  17. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I mean that is exactly what your D2 looks like. Not pushing him hard but constantly mentioning him in a negative way.
    No I mean I wouldn't have even mentioned him as having a bad vote.
  18. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Just had a scan though Listo's ISO for mentions of MTR.

    No mention at all on D1.

    Mentioned him 3 times by repeating the same thing about how his/Claws votes on Morrison train were the worst. I think that pairing him with another person makes it very plausible for it to be a distancing maneuver, so I wouldn't clear... realistically either of them upon each other's red flip tbh.
    If I was scum I would've tampered with the record to make MTR look better lol
  19. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Because it's either the team is exactly Listo/BN/MTR with Listo bussing MTR

    Or I have miscleared someone
    I like bussing but not that much lol.
  20. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Okay fair enough.
    Still want Insaner/Future/Xan looked at even more. Especially if MTR flips red.
  21. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Listo seems pretty confident.

    Vote: MTR
    I'm just continuing what I said yesterday from his D1 vote spot.
  22. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I for one am super skeptical of Listo saying "we need to yeet Future in order to clear BN upon his green flip" yesterday.

    Reaction GIF
  23. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’ve never heard of janitor kill? What is that?
    Same as a cannibal more or less. Hides the bodies info.
  24. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    You know what, let's just start it now.

    Vote: MTR
  25. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well @Listo95 you were right about Val. Would you consider voting Insaner now or leave him be for now?
    *looks above*

    Also 100% okay voting MTR.
  26. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Guess we don't need to yeet me to solve CWE now.
    Still want to though after yesterday.
  27. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    You just said you would be willing to vote Val a couple of hours ago.

    I highly advise shooting Listo regardless of Val's flip here.
    Just because I said that doesn’t mean I won’t vote him lol.
  28. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tbf if Val flips V (if we go that route) I almost feel Listo+BN have to be wolves together.
    *looks at role card* nope still says town.
  29. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Whenever town is scum they go after Val. 90% of the time he’s town in that scenario.
    Town is stuck*
  30. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    @Listo95 you probably know Val more than most. What’s your take?
    Whenever town is scum they go after Val. 90% of the time he’s town in that scenario.
  31. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    A point in BNs favor all depends on Future’s flip. If future is scum I can see BN pushing Morrison to save him. If he’s town a scum BN would find no need to give another alternative target.
  32. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Of those 3 Val would be the one I’d be willing to the most. I ain’t voting me. BN/Mazer I don’t have full reads in either direction yet.
  33. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well I did make that point but Saner disagrees.

    Did you see my towncore? Do you agree/disagree with any of it? Like I just need some reads and action here
    I’m okay with Badger and CWE, Tildey and claws I’m still unsure of.
  34. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ------ Count 19 ------
    **4 - Future:** MTR(53), pups(68), Badger(190), Val(268)
    **4 - Morri:** BN(346), listo(347), Insaner(349), Tildey(351)
    **1 - Sleep:** future(259),
    **1 - Listo:** Drey(316)
    **1 - Tildey:** Claws(85)
    **1 - Xanjori:** CWE(205)
    Current as of post: 354

    This is the vote count from D1 when Morrison/future were made even. If future is scum or believed to be scum I will gladly accept the scum reads of me.
  35. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m the towniest town to ever town ofc
  36. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    this an admission to your guilt i good with any scum today
    God no lol
  37. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    also the reason i think listo is town is because hes making such an effort while at work
    Just ignore that it’s a scum tell for me :p
  38. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    And now we must purge that wagon until we find the wolves on it.

    I say we start with you/BN
    Lol.
    Not like it matters that claws/MTR have the worst votes on it.
  39. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well so far and as far as I know, you've only helped yeet other tiwn.
    And yet so did: BN, you, Tildey, Badger, claws, MTR, future
    :D
  40. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    And after all I’ve done for this town to make it flourish this is how I’m treated!?
  41. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Well duh. We are all town here

    But someone needs to get yote regardless
    And again the answer to that is another person in your PoE.
  42. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I'm not a monster though. I've been hangover once and it really sucked
    And I’m town so also a mistake to yeet into oblivion :D

    Who knows what might happen if I die!
  43. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Not gonna yeet BN because he is hangover

    Vote: Listo

    Is that what I'm supposed to do here? Lol
    Nope.
  44. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    BN mostly because he seemed reasonable and talking things over, but I guess there is some LAMIST potential in there.

    Listo Im completely fine with pushing especially as his most recent presence didnt inspire much confidence
    Oh whatever will I do? Oh I know.

    black and white sleep GIF
  45. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Fair enough.
    Yeah my gut isn’t giving any alarm bells for anyone yet. Who knows maybe I’ve noticed something but my brain just hasn’t put it together yet. When I get time off I might try to get a better read assuming I’m alive ofc.
  46. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Although there has been info highlighted on D2 to be fair

    Although slightly disagree on the D2 analysis as info has already been clearly highlighted.

    You must have other thoughts. Like Xan/Insaner. Where do you stand on that issue fellow grocery industry grunt?
    I won’t say I’m amazing at reading posts very well. What I get from them is that they aren’t in a chat together. I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. I’m very much an information person.
  47. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Fellow grocery boy Listo…looks like Madame is no longer with us.

    @Listo95 does love his vote analyses though so I invite him to share these thoughts with us.
    Like I mentioned earlier a quick look and only info being Morrison’s/3pup info makes me feel like Claws/MTR have the worst votes.
    D2 analysis is never very good due to how little info is around.
  48. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Whats a good POE Listo?
    So far nothing has really stood out to me from posts. Vote wise claws/MTR are the votes I like the least.
  49. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Any world with a Listo in PoE is a bad world :D
  50. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Off I go to google…
    A technical medical examiner finds the cause of death. I’m thinking maybe this could get the actions? Who knows tbh.
  51. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Does Amelia maybe have the ability to talk to the dead? That could help us out later on.
    I read it as more of a like medical examiner type role.
  52. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    It looks like he was trying to invite you to a party, too. Sorry Claws. :crying:
    Who do you not want to vote today?
  53. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    This writeup makes no sense to me.
  54. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I’m fine with a Morrison vote. I was leaning him or Listo anyway due to inactivity (decided to wait a bit longer when Listo showed up after Insaner’s vote).

    If you’re not participating and completing quests then you’re not earning gold. If you’re not earning gold then you (presumably)* can’t act. If you’re town and not acting then you’re not helping.

    * I say presumably because as 3pups has pointed out a few times we don’t know how the scum mechanic works and we don’t know if they need gold to do their kill.

    Vote: Morrison
    I would presume 1 of 2 things for the kill. Either no gold cost. Or it does but all scum gold is combined in a pot so to speak. No cost is more likely imo.
  55. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I agree that you arent much better... But here and have at least posted.
    I will never not be posting unless I am literally dying of illness or working!
  56. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Vote: Morrison

    If you sign up... play.

    Day would be over had the site not gone down and this man is still at 0 posts
    I'm not much better, but I can agree with this sentiment.

    Vote: Morrison
  57. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Imma be real here

    I'm too tired rn to process Badger's gimmick posting

    I wanna say that the indignation of "I made a post and Insaner still hasn't unvoted me yet?!" reads as townie entitlement to me that wolves might not think to fake

    So yeah whatever I'm fine leaving him until I can read his posts with a clearer head and with more information as well as in thread developments to base my reads off of
    Nope pure coincidence :D

    It's kind of a thing where I get mentioned and I'll manage to check the thread normally within a short timeframe unless I'm asleep.
  58. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Like I know its D1 and all but I don't like these votes on Future. He died D2 last game. Also not a fan of the Insaner votes cause 1st game back in a while.
  59. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Cause Claws is such a wonderful person that he wanted to spread his loveliness to others. You should know this since you also are very lovely. Tildey needs the kindness cause she is not nice whatsoever.
  60. Listo95

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Never played a game with a quest for gold before - how does that work?
    I assume it works as we just need to do the objective, at end of day Foxxi will see which ones we completed and give us the gold we deserve.
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