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Mafia 29: The Killing Itch

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I do not. i work and then poe 2 and queen tonight

le sigh GIF
 

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Well where else am I supposed to vote?
No scum kills. So I can't guess at the culprit.
No Psycho. So that votes gone.
No :squint: . So I can't vote :squint:.

...

Missionary works for some people dammit!!!
I do love this response. And I take it as a great compliment that after all these years, I'm still keeping things sexy.

Honestly, I think I should be downgraded to number 3 (if you're still including psych) after the last year, but the process is the process.
 

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1 - Future: Pups(384)
3 - MTR: Void(363), CWE(391), Claws (398)
3 - Xanjori: Val(323), mtr (396), Handium (401)
1 - Mazer: Xan (409)
 

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Right now, between the two, I'd probably lean mtr. None of the votes on him are amazing, but neither are the votes on Xan.

There's something with the claim that I don't like. Might be nothing, but when investigating....details matter.

@MTR any reason for xan over you.
 

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I am town for one thing and people should be able to see that now.

I am not sure Xan is the way to go but I went with one of the other people that had votes. Maybe there is another way to go and I am happy to switch my vote around.
 

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I am town for one thing and people should be able to see that now.

I am not sure Xan is the way to go but I went with one of the other people that had votes. Maybe there is another way to go and I am happy to switch my vote around.
Tell me I'm your favorite.
 

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I am town for one thing and people should be able to see that now.

I am not sure Xan is the way to go but I went with one of the other people that had votes. Maybe there is another way to go and I am happy to switch my vote around.
Explain the first part to me like I'm virms
 

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I have a guess to what MTR’s role is, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a liar liar pants on fire, but I trust MTR (if he flips scum this will bite me in the ass)
 

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If you guys want to yeet me for info I can't stop you but you won't find a scum in me.
 

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I have a guess to what MTR’s role is, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a liar liar pants on fire, but I trust MTR (if he flips scum this will bite me in the ass)
From gameplay or because you know your old man?

Or because you recently received an RKO that caused you to see the world with a new clarity? And any truth to the rumor that you're avoiding Indy out of RKO fear?
 

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Just got home. About to head to practice. Not sure I'll be back on.

We need to at least create pressure. Mtr has been active, at least.

Because people also seem very content to sit this one out, and xan has also been less active since Just dropping a no explanation vote.

Vote: xan
 

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Also, there's not a single family voidkitten outranks me in.

Not even his own.
 

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5 - Xanjori: Val(323), MTR(396), Handium(401), Void(430), Mazer(432)
2 - MTR: CWE(391), Claws(398)
1 - Matt: Xan(223)
1 - Future: Pups(384)
1 - Mazer: Matthieu(409)


Not currently voting: Future

Lil less than an hour remains in Day Two
 

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Final Day Two Vote Count:

6 - Xanjori: Val(323), MTR(396), Handium(401), Void(430), Mazer(432), Pups(436)
2 - MTR: CWE(391), Claws(398)
1 - Matt: Xan(223)
1 - Mazer: Matthieu(409)


Not currently voting: Future

After the impromptu mid-day shooting, it was decided that the solution to one dead person was two dead people. The more the merrier in Itchy the violent city. There was some discourse over who for a while, until eventually someone tripped into a group and was shoved in front of an oncoming sub train. Oops.

Xanjori has been yeeted. He was Vanilla Town.

It is now Night Two. Night Two deadline 12/12 @7:30am est
 
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The dance scene in Itchy was lit. It was a favorite pastime of the inhabitants to get their groove on, and then get pissed at each other for doing it with the wrong people. So when yelling and accusations were heard over the too-loud music no one batted an eye.

Val has died. He was ???

Living players:

Apocaclaws
CWE
Future
Handium
Matthieu
Mazer
MTR
Pups
Void

It is now Day Three. Day Three Deadline is Friday 12/13 @ 7:30pm est. With 9 alive majority is 5
 

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These games are supposed to be fun. This is not.

Can we presume that Val was a threat to town, because the death appears in purple, while Xan and BN appeared in green?
 

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These games are supposed to be fun. This is not.

Can we presume that Val was a threat to town, because the death appears in purple, while Xan and BN appeared in green?
I doubt it. Purple is unknown. Assume the worst...
 

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These games are supposed to be fun. This is not.

Can we presume that Val was a threat to town, because the death appears in purple, while Xan and BN appeared in green?
I am going to assume that is the color she is using for someone that doesn't flip unless we can figure out otherwise.
 

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I hate that we got Xan wrong yesterday by the way. I need to start going back to do some reading to see if I can get some reads. We need to nail a scum today.
 

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I did say I breadcrumbed later on and said voting for me would be silly at this point.
 

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Mild implica𝜏ions, decօding bold and itаlics and codes i enjoy

For example, I’ve hidden Unicode lookalikes to letters that have my role name in the quoted text
 

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I'm looking at the players who had a vote on Xanjori:

Xanjori: Val(323), MTR(396), Handium(401), Void(430), Mazer(432), Pups(436)

Of those, who do we think is likely to be scum?

Void is basically confirmed as town due to Blind Ninja's shenanigans and MTR has given me reason to trust him. Val is dead but unless someone comes forward claiming to have a town aligned kill that they used on him, it's a safe bet that he was taken out by scum.

So that leaves Handium, Mazer and 3pups. Handium is new to our community so obviously I can't rely on past games for help in reading them. Though based on the exchange between 3pups and Handium early on, I don't think they're both scum. Only one of them could be. Mazer was fairly quiet but to his credit he began posting more towards the end of the day phase and his posts felt 'solvey' to me.

So I guess that's a long winded way of saying I am most interested in Handium and 3pups this day phase.

Val will be avenged.
 

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I think Handium is town at the moment going off what I am seeing so far.

I am going back and forth on 3pups and Mazer.
 

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I'm looking at the players who had a vote on Xanjori:

Xanjori: Val(323), MTR(396), Handium(401), Void(430), Mazer(432), Pups(436)

Of those, who do we think is likely to be scum?

Void is basically confirmed as town due to Blind Ninja's shenanigans and MTR has given me reason to trust him. Val is dead but unless someone comes forward claiming to have a town aligned kill that they used on him, it's a safe bet that he was taken out by scum.

So that leaves Handium, Mazer and 3pups. Handium is new to our community so obviously I can't rely on past games for help in reading them. Though based on the exchange between 3pups and Handium early on, I don't think they're both scum. Only one of them could be. Mazer was fairly quiet but to his credit he began posting more towards the end of the day phase and his posts felt 'solvey' to me.

So I guess that's a long winded way of saying I am most interested in Handium and 3pups this day phase.

Val will be avenged.


This appears well thought out. I am interested in Handium as well, but I realize that my being the hammer on Xan certainly doesn't look good for me.

I agree with Void being mostly cleared due to Blind Ninja's action.

I was proud if myself that I understood the breadcrumb from MTR (I am thinking commuter?), but I was also a little bit skeptical about it, because lying is part of the game. Handy "confirming" this makes me feel better, unless of course Handy flips scum and was protecting scum partner MTR. I don't think that's the case, but its a possibility.

Mazer is skilled enough to look like he's trying to solve when he's deflecting attention away from himself or even a teammate. Still, I tend to distrust Mazer pretty much every game.

I have openly claimed my vanilla town role, and did so well before anyone else confirmed there are VT's here. From the lack of write ups, we really don't know what other roles are out there.

Handy, can you describe what you wanted to accomplish with your action on MTR? You've already made yourself a target to scum by claiming you have an action.
 

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Handy, can you describe what you wanted to accomplish with your action on MTR? You've already made yourself a target to scum by claiming you have an action.
Wanted to check the other wagon target, it was a waste on my action especially since I can’t do it again

Being a scum target is a big problem because i gotta guess when they wanna kill me
 

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You've got rhythm. You've got music, Who could ask for anything more?





The answer is me. I ask for more.

I'm ok with the interest list. Because gotta start somewhere. However, if someone tries to carry that over too much, let's be safe out there. Its possible that scum had people spread out, and didn't want to move late. So, nobody should just rule others out completely. It's possible they could have been ok with either result, or not wanted to overcommit. Until we can determine a playstyle, its speculative.

I'd also at least keep future in the POE. No vote can't be a way to get out of the POE, or you're inviting sitting.
 

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So heres the question.

Is it 2 scum and a cannibal serial killer alternating?

Or is it 3 scum and they have special kills to use.
 

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I need to finish ISOing people at some point. I have questions and things I am pondering now.

Now, if everyone wants to tell me two people they want to yeet and why today, I'd <3 you forever.
 

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I need to finish ISOing people at some point. I have questions and things I am pondering now.

Now, if everyone wants to tell me two people they want to yeet and why today, I'd <3 you forever.
claws because he will probably try to kill me first

3pups because just got an itch that he may be scum
 

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probably after isoing id yeet 3pups or mazer those are the 2 im pretty interested in out of the rest
 

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I won't hold the hammer against 3pups given how close to the end of the day phase it was and he wasn't wrong about the need for information.

That's doubly the case with the night kill not giving any information.

So heres the question.

Is it 2 scum and a cannibal serial killer alternating?

Or is it 3 scum and they have special kills to use.
If it's the former then unless something was blocked during N1 then that does make me a little concerned about Handi admitting to not submitting an action...

If it's the latter, I'm not sure that's better than the frustration that comes with not getting information from night kills since the only other special kills I can think of are things like poison and bleeding for a delayed kill and a strongman to negate any protection. I know our lovely moderator has used all those roles in past games.
 

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I need to finish ISOing people at some point. I have questions and things I am pondering now.

Now, if everyone wants to tell me two people they want to yeet and why today, I'd <3 you forever.
Mazer is #1. I'm not letting "under the radar" scum Mazer go under the radar AGAIN.

3pup and Claws are probably tied at #2.

I had you st 2 but I forgot the desperado thing day 2.
 

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So heres the question.

Is it 2 scum and a cannibal serial killer alternating?

Or is it 3 scum and they have special kills to use.

The other possibility I considered is that it was 3 scum, and one of them won a prize for posting a GIF in their first post. Foxxi might have given them a cannibal kill. I seem to recall she's a fan of letting a winner choose something, but not too powerful that it would completely disrupt balance.
 

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Vote Count

Not currently Voting: everyone

Roughly 12 hours remain in day 3
 

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For me, now, it comes down to how I think Foxxi set up this game.

Handy has claimed an investigative role, and that THEY tried to use it on MTR. Nobody else has given any indication that they have a town investigative role.

I know I am vanilla, and we have a confirmed dead vanilla Val. Xan flipped unknown. BN flipped with an action role in desperado.

Handy's claimed THEY forgot to submit an action N1, and that N2 THEY tried to check out MTR, but couldn't find them. This aligns with MTR's claim / breadcrumbing of what appears to be a commuter role.

I don't completely trust this, but I trust it more than I distrust it. Mostly for the fact that NOBODY ELSE has given any indication that could have or that they've even tried to act.

I don't think Foxxi would set up a game, knowing she will not be including information in write ups, where the only town ability to get information is from a dead desperado.

I am not convinced that Foxxi would include a commuter in a game with no write ups and very little town power roles, but she may have done so, and that would explain no kill on N1, if scum targeted MTR.

It seems that Future has kind of hinted at being a Body Guard. I could see Foxxi giving us a BG to protect our only TI role.

If Handy is our only TI role, I don't want to lynch them.

For me, based on the POE on the Xan train, I am inclined to

Vote: Mazer

I am basing this more on the fact that I trust Void (due to the BN action), and that I want to trust Handy and MTR for reasons above.

Mazer's post felt like he was trying to keep attention on yours truly, Handy and then Future, instead of actually solving.

CWE has given no reason to distrust him.

Other than Mazer, I'd want to look at Claws and then maybe Matthieu. Matthieu has been defending me, but if he's scum he would know that I am not, so is he looking to appear helpful / solvy?
 

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If Handy is our only TI role, I don't want to lynch them.
I’m not sure what the usual for our host is but I doubt I’m the only one that can investigate, since that’s giving town only one chance to see someone’s alignment and I just wasted it

I’ll just full claim here, I have limited shots for a cop check, watcher, roleblock, and a role I won’t say cause it’ll make me a target
I wasted the cop check so I just have three actions left, and once those are done, I’m plain vanilla
 

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I’m not sure what the usual for our host is but I doubt I’m the only one that can investigate, since that’s giving town only one chance to see someone’s alignment and I just wasted it

I’ll just full claim here, I have limited shots for a cop check, watcher, roleblock, and a role I won’t say cause it’ll make me a target
I wasted the cop check so I just have three actions left, and once those are done, I’m plain vanilla
So a JOAT. Cool

The watcher action is a good investigative action as well.
 

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So who are yeeting? Do we go with Pups and vote Mazer or do we take out Pups or is there another option?
 

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probably after isoing id yeet 3pups or mazer those are the 2 im pretty interested in out of the rest
Yes, I
For me, now, it comes down to how I think Foxxi set up this game.

Handy has claimed an investigative role, and that THEY tried to use it on MTR. Nobody else has given any indication that they have a town investigative role.

I know I am vanilla, and we have a confirmed dead vanilla Val. Xan flipped unknown. BN flipped with an action role in desperado.

Handy's claimed THEY forgot to submit an action N1, and that N2 THEY tried to check out MTR, but couldn't find them. This aligns with MTR's claim / breadcrumbing of what appears to be a commuter role.

I don't completely trust this, but I trust it more than I distrust it. Mostly for the fact that NOBODY ELSE has given any indication that could have or that they've even tried to act.

I don't think Foxxi would set up a game, knowing she will not be including information in write ups, where the only town ability to get information is from a dead desperado.

I am not convinced that Foxxi would include a commuter in a game with no write ups and very little town power roles, but she may have done so, and that would explain no kill on N1, if scum targeted MTR.

It seems that Future has kind of hinted at being a Body Guard. I could see Foxxi giving us a BG to protect our only TI role.

If Handy is our only TI role, I don't want to lynch them.

For me, based on the POE on the Xan train, I am inclined to

Vote: Mazer

I am basing this more on the fact that I trust Void (due to the BN action), and that I want to trust Handy and MTR for reasons above.

Mazer's post felt like he was trying to keep attention on yours truly, Handy and then Future, instead of actually solving.

CWE has given no reason to distrust him.

Other than Mazer, I'd want to look at Claws and then maybe Matthieu. Matthieu has been defending me, but if he's scum he would know that I am not, so is he looking to appear helpful / solvy?
How did it feel like I wanted to keep attention on you? Please be specific
 

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Void I'm ok with, mostly based on the blind ninja shot unless there was real tomfoolery. That feels like too many hoops to jump through.

Mtr has some back-up not being there. Now, does that rule him out? No. Scum have had hiding powers in other games. It's less common, but doesn't seem the highest probability.

Matt is a little less probable based on scum kills. He could have just abstained a vote, and is willing to use it to his advantage.

Future I could go either way on. Even if he's a bodyguard, that's one of the easiest claims to fake. You just keep "missing" your protection on who scum targets. Him missing a vote when he was active earlier doesn't sit as well with me, as I think he's sometimes showing different levels of behaviors on different roles. But, in all honesty, I'm not strong.

Handium -the claim is more interesting, and I'd expect it something we could validate at some point. I think its wrong if we underestimate them, as they've played before, and false claims are a skill someone might have. But not currently in my highest priorities.

Claws...tough time getting a read. claws on mtr is the opposite of shocking. They're not my main priority right now. My only concern is they usually play hard for a lynch, and it's a little off base with me that they just sat on mtr. But that's not something I'm ready to go to war on.

CWE I don't have a read on right now. Day 1 was true to form. I'd like them to do some reads that reassures me at some point.

3puppies-I was leaning town, because I was wondering the same thing they were when we thought mtr was claiming a different role. It made me see an equivalency there. I did say at that point that I didn't like one thing, as there are some tells that are not always AI, but sometimes can be. I could be OMGSUSing, but them coming in, after several people narrowed down the list already, and specifically calling me out for only focusing on them was not something I loved.


I'm trying to narrow down. Feel free to shoot holes in any logic I've missed on.
 

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Void I'm ok with, mostly based on the blind ninja shot unless there was real tomfoolery. That feels like too many hoops to jump through.

Mtr has some back-up not being there. Now, does that rule him out? No. Scum have had hiding powers in other games. It's less common, but doesn't seem the highest probability.

Matt is a little less probable based on scum kills. He could have just abstained a vote, and is willing to use it to his advantage.

Future I could go either way on. Even if he's a bodyguard, that's one of the easiest claims to fake. You just keep "missing" your protection on who scum targets. Him missing a vote when he was active earlier doesn't sit as well with me, as I think he's sometimes showing different levels of behaviors on different roles. But, in all honesty, I'm not strong.

Handium -the claim is more interesting, and I'd expect it something we could validate at some point. I think its wrong if we underestimate them, as they've played before, and false claims are a skill someone might have. But not currently in my highest priorities.

Claws...tough time getting a read. claws on mtr is the opposite of shocking. They're not my main priority right now. My only concern is they usually play hard for a lynch, and it's a little off base with me that they just sat on mtr. But that's not something I'm ready to go to war on.

CWE I don't have a read on right now. Day 1 was true to form. I'd like them to do some reads that reassures me at some point.

3puppies-I was leaning town, because I was wondering the same thing they were when we thought mtr was claiming a different role. It made me see an equivalency there. I did say at that point that I didn't like one thing, as there are some tells that are not always AI, but sometimes can be. I could be OMGSUSing, but them coming in, after several people narrowed down the list already, and specifically calling me out for only focusing on them was not something I loved.


I'm trying to narrow down. Feel free to shoot holes in any logic I've missed on.
The bodyguard claim is a little out there because I never claimed body guard
 

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I’m not going to act like I’m a body guard when I’m not one. That just makes me look suspicious. I was going in to vote then 3pups hammered.
 
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