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Mafia 32- Traitors

Vote: Listo

This is just self pres btw its dead silent and getting unlucky with a lynch tie would not be a fun way to go, I'll get off before EoD most likely
 
Sorry y'all, it's been a busy weekend for me. Had to prepare for my partner's bday party and then was out of the house most of today

Doesn't look like much changed since I last posted
 
Final Vote Count:

Vote Count:

2- Handium (psycho, Listo)
2- Listo (FH, Handium)
1- FH (Val)

We will need another random. I have a bit to get done at work so I will get the results in a couple of hours and start the night phase then.
 
Listo lost the random. Listo was a faithful. 7 players remain as night falls over the castle.

1. VoidKitten
2. Val the Moofia Boss
3. FutureHold
4. CWE
5. PsychoSoldier
6. MTR
7. Handium
 
There was no murder last night. Instead the traitors have published a shot list for murder tomorrow night. Handium, Psycho, and Void have been placed up for murder. One of these three will be murdered tomorrow night. The short list could contain any number of faithful and traitors.

However today we have other tasks at hand. Players will be voting to banish as normal but they will also hold a second shield vote. Players will bold their selection and say shield to ___________. Players can pick any of the 3 people up for murder to gain the shield. Once a shield vote is placed it may not be moved. Please be sure to indicate your shield votes in the proper way so there is no confusion.

1. VoidKitten
2. Val the Moofia Boss
3. FutureHold
4. CWE
5. PsychoSoldier
6. MTR
7. Handium

I am going to allow a few extra hours on this one as I do not want time to end before I am awake. Lets call it 40 hours. 8:15 am central is aproximently when I start my break at work.
 
I was coming in today to tell all of you that today is lylo, but it actually isn't. UNLESS this is an extra kill (i assume so?)
 
Val looks awful for the vote at the end.

Psycho looks awful for checking in and then dipping out, making it seem like he was truly concerned about checking in and not about putting thoughts out with 40 min to go. He was also okay with the rand.

MTR/Future are interesting.

Handium is probs town

CWE....I cannot say anything about CWE one way or another. I legit forgot he was playing until I was like "wait, this is only 5 names + me"
 
VoidKitten said:
CWE....I cannot say anything about CWE one way or another. I legit forgot he was playing until I was like "wait, this is only 5 names + me"
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i was almost gonna mention they werent playing when i saw them in chat for the first time before realizing yes they are in this game lmfao
 
The elite scum move would be for the whole team to have included themselves in the shot list so as to push themselves to the back of the list of suspects. While one of them might be shot, the likelihood of one of them being lynched in the same time frame with this few players left is similar, so it would be a justifiable gambit.
 
Val the Moofia Boss said:
The elite scum move would be for the whole team to have included themselves in the shot list so as to push themselves to the back of the list of suspects. While one of them might be shot, the likelihood of one of them being lynched in the same time frame with this few players left is similar, so it would be a justifiable gambit.
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Working so well with the fact we are analyzing those choices :p
 
well the scum move might be having no traitor in the list cause that would be extremely obvious i think seeing it was basically the first thought that someone on the list is a traitor

or they went obvious idfk
 
Still got a lot of catching up to do and probably won't actually be here until late tonight, but I'm picking up where I left off yesterday

Vote: Handium
 
Hmm. Now that I'm thinking on it there's a small part of me that wonders if Void was maybe doing his thing where he goes hard at a partner and whoever gets dead first clears the other

But I didn't really feel like Matthieu was in on the argument so I don't really feel it as strongly
 
Oh so you two just think the scum team allowed one of their own to be in the rand and prayed it went their way instead of one of them being able to subtly move it with two people alive?

Riiiiiiiiight.
 
PsychoSoldier said:
Hmm. Now that I'm thinking on it there's a small part of me that wonders if Void was maybe doing his thing where he goes hard at a partner and whoever gets dead first clears the other

But I didn't really feel like Matthieu was in on the argument so I don't really feel it as strongly
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This is pretty much putting the idea out there just to see if it takes traction :D
 
ow all i said this day was that the scum may have not went the obvious route of having one of them in the list (ofc ik that isnt the reason)
 
@PsychoSoldier Who do you think the other starting traitor was then?

You have said MTR, Future, CWE, and me are town previously (when there was no missing kills). You also won't pick yourself. Which leaves Val and Handium. Handium who you have been on for voting you since early.
 
I'm feeling a Psycho/MTR or Psycho/Future currently.

I am tempted to ask CWE the question, but its so boring if he is actually scum that way.

Psycho also cleared Matthieu early on by saying his intro wasn't anything to be concerned about and that it "could be scum" but didn't think so. Or something to that effect.

Also claimed OGI info on Claws that made him think he was scum. Ended up being wrong. Being wrong happens of course, but this is a lot of wrong.

The issue is, if Psycho was the starting traitor with Matthieu, it will be an absolute clusterfuck to guess the final traitor.
 
CWE voted on Psycho then unvoted saying Psycho should know why.

Then mostly CWE has been sus reacting to things Psycho says.

But all of this was before the recruit, so was it CWE/Matthieu starting w/ a recruit on Psycho?

I can 100% see CWE recruiting Psycho.

Hmmm. I hate ignoring MTR/Future tho.

I do like that Future is calling Handium town for some reason that i assume is not the reason I was based on how he was wording the post.

My head hurts.
 
VoidKitten said:
I'm feeling a Psycho/MTR or Psycho/Future currently.

I am tempted to ask CWE the question, but its so boring if he is actually scum that way.

Psycho also cleared Matthieu early on by saying his intro wasn't anything to be concerned about and that it "could be scum" but didn't think so. Or something to that effect.

Also claimed OGI info on Claws that made him think he was scum. Ended up being wrong. Being wrong happens of course, but this is a lot of wrong.

The issue is, if Psycho was the starting traitor with Matthieu, it will be an absolute clusterfuck to guess the final traitor.
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I initially cleared MTR but looking back on it he is sounding a lot like Converted MTR
 
VoidKitten said:
CWE voted on Psycho then unvoted saying Psycho should know why.

Then mostly CWE has been sus reacting to things Psycho says.

But all of this was before the recruit, so was it CWE/Matthieu starting w/ a recruit on Psycho?

I can 100% see CWE recruiting Psycho.

Hmmm. I hate ignoring MTR/Future tho.

I do like that Future is calling Handium town for some reason that i assume is not the reason I was based on how he was wording the post.

My head hurts.
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The question is, was the tie between 2 town or is the other a traitor?
 
Not gonna lie, now future is making me iffy and full of fucking contradictions.

Says MTR is converted, but just yesterday said MTR is clean.

Says Handium and Val are clean because "he cleared them"

Says he wants to unvote Listo but that would "be the scum thing to do"
 
VoidKitten said:
@PsychoSoldier Who do you think the other starting traitor was then?

You have said MTR, Future, CWE, and me are town previously (when there was no missing kills). You also won't pick yourself. Which leaves Val and Handium. Handium who you have been on for voting you since early.
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I literally have explained it's Handium. Have you actually read my posts or my reasoning for voting there?
 
Wait no. Said Handium and Val are scum. Then said his gut says Handium is clean so Val must be too.

You are either starting town or were recruited.

I think incorrect town at this point.

Extremely confused incorrect town.
 
PsychoSoldier said:
I literally have explained it's Handium. Have you actually read my posts or my reasoning for voting there?
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Please tell me in your last 3 votes of Handium where you said why Handium is scum?

You have literally just said "Lets start here." "Let's make it spicy" "Continuing where i left off"
 
VoidKitten said:
I'm feeling a Psycho/MTR or Psycho/Future currently.

I am tempted to ask CWE the question, but its so boring if he is actually scum that way.

Psycho also cleared Matthieu early on by saying his intro wasn't anything to be concerned about and that it "could be scum" but didn't think so. Or something to that effect.

Also claimed OGI info on Claws that made him think he was scum. Ended up being wrong. Being wrong happens of course, but this is a lot of wrong.

The issue is, if Psycho was the starting traitor with Matthieu, it will be an absolute clusterfuck to guess the fina
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Maybe read the posts literally right before it?
 
PsychoSoldier said:
Looking back at these, I get some iffy feelings. There's a lot of waffling on Matthieu and Void in the first post. When asked for feels on anyone, they opt to talk about whether Void/Matthieu is w/w, t/t or t/w but doesn't really talk about which they actually feel would be the wolf there. And if Matthieu IS a traitor, then Handium waffling on him in the second post and saying Void would be the scum in the pairing makes their approach to Void feel like it could have been an intentional defense from the start.
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PsychoSoldier said:
I have mixed opinions about this progression. I believe Handium actually meant to vote Future based on the timing of their vote on me and the content of their post. And I also think this chain is maybe town-motivated because I kinda think Handium might be a more careful scum from the vibes I'm getting.

But I don't think Void was one of the people in favor of voting off the shields, so that comes off a bit like someone who has a pre-determined read on Void that just found an excuse to bring them into.

A bit conflicted on it
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PsychoSoldier said:
Finishing Handium's ISO, it doesn't help that they just kind of lazily pop on Claws and shade Grumpy when those were becoming the popular names.
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Maybe that’s why I haven’t been converted yet.

In all seriousness. I have a strong lean on Val being town. Handium flip flops.

I gave MTR benefit of the doubt yesterday but went through his posts again today. And I really didn’t want to seal anyone’s fate by unvoting yesterday.

Or do I need an excuse for everything?
 
ForgottenHold said:
Maybe that’s why I haven’t been converted yet.

In all seriousness. I have a strong lean on Val being town. Handium flip flops.

I gave MTR benefit of the doubt yesterday but went through his posts again today. And I really didn’t want to seal anyone’s fate by unvoting yesterday.

Or do I need an excuse for everything?
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You should have reasons for things, yes.
 
ForgottenHold said:
Maybe that’s why I haven’t been converted yet.

In all seriousness. I have a strong lean on Val being town. Handium flip flops.

I gave MTR benefit of the doubt yesterday but went through his posts again today. And I really didn’t want to seal anyone’s fate by unvoting yesterday.

Or do I need an excuse for everything?
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I just want you to know. If I get voted out today and you are a part of it and town, I promise you I will remind you about this moment for the rest of your life.

You will quit this forum, move on with your life out of the House of MTR main fortress, and I will get your new address from MTR or Tildey and send you postcards to remind you of this moment.

If you have children, I will ensure they know about this moment in their father's storied mafia history.
 
Handium said:
PsychoSoldier said:
With his flip, it definitely increases my theory that Handium could be a partner.

And yeah, decent chance there was a recruit, but that also depends on what they felt took priority.

Who got the shield for last phase?
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i noted that matt didnt seem too scummy but i wasnt going to brush them off yet

PsychoSoldier said:
I have mixed opinions about this progression. I believe Handium actually meant to vote Future based on the timing of their vote on me and the content of their post. And I also think this chain is maybe town-motivated because I kinda think Handium might be a more careful scum from the vibes I'm getting.

But I don't think Void was one of the people in favor of voting off the shields, so that comes off a bit like someone who has a pre-determined read on Void that just found an excuse to bring them into.

A bit conflicted on it

I meant to vote forgottenhold and when I fixed my vote, it was on hold not void, also, looking at my ISO, i never voted void?

The mention of void's reasoning was from before- how i said they felt scummy to me due to saying 'i hate this post' 'i like this post' without explaining why


The shade on grumpy was more of a "that doesnt seem towny with that mention of win con and how would having no shields help said win con unless they can kill?" i was admittedly looking way too much into a comment that was likely more 'shields remove people that could be choosen, and as such, increase my chance of death' or something like that
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PsychoSoldier said:
Finishing Handium's ISO, it doesn't help that they just kind of lazily pop on Claws and shade Grumpy when those were becoming the popular names.
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the claws vote was suspicious of me, im looking back on it and yeah why did i do that cause even tho i was confused on claws was going on about, it was a dumbass vote
i was up for like 14 hours straight then so get sleep everyone
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lemme quickly quote and repost thissss
 
VoidKitten said:
You should have reasons for things, yes.
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I just find it suspicious that you
VoidKitten said:
I just want you to know. If I get voted out today and you are a part of it and town, I promise you I will remind you about this moment for the rest of your life.

You will quit this forum, move on with your life out of the House of MTR main fortress, and I will get your new address from MTR or Tildey and send you postcards to remind you of this moment.

If you have children, I will ensure they know about this moment in their father's storied mafia history.
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We’ll see

Unvote: Unvote

I shouldn’t make rash voting decisions
 
VoidKitten said:
CWE voted on Psycho then unvoted saying Psycho should know why.

Then mostly CWE has been sus reacting to things Psycho says.

But all of this was before the recruit, so was it CWE/Matthieu starting w/ a recruit on Psycho?

I can 100% see CWE recruiting Psycho.

Hmmm. I hate ignoring MTR/Future tho.

I do like that Future is calling Handium town for some reason that i assume is not the reason I was based on how he was wording the post.

My head hurts.
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Have a shot.
It might help.
Good morning.
 
VoidKitten said:
CWE voted on Psycho then unvoted saying Psycho should know why.

Then mostly CWE has been sus reacting to things Psycho says.

But all of this was before the recruit, so was it CWE/Matthieu starting w/ a recruit on Psycho?

I can 100% see CWE recruiting Psycho.

Hmmm. I hate ignoring MTR/Future tho.

I do like that Future is calling Handium town for some reason that i assume is not the reason I was based on how he was wording the post.

My head hurts.
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My heads hurts reading your stuff. lol
 
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