Mafia 39 - Ghost Town

[CWE]

Ok, let's figure something out

If you're a Vanilla Townie, say so

I am

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I also need psycho to explain what accountabuility i am lacking ? i show up i engage hell i pimg a bunch of dingdongs before eod trying to get votes goin

I understand your explanation, but I feel like you are usually much more forthcoming with votes

Though, I'm curious about something specific when it comes to claims

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Suspicious, shifty eyes, panic

You've been curious about the roles and found it kind of suspicious that we haven't had any claims OR felt that the thread was being crazy for thinking as much?

Poke with a stick, cheeky contentment, popcorn, shades

You've been poking because you have nothing else to go on and just want to watch what happens/been getting a kick out of those solving as if we have night action roles?

Am I at all right in any of this?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

We know there is a traitor - which Foxxi says will always appear as town, so there has to be someone with investigative role.

This isn't what I got from that rule announcement at all. I assumed she was just talking about the flip. So I don't think there are investigatives

 

[MTR]

Ok, let's figure something out

If you're a Vanilla Townie, say so

I am

 

[MTR]

This isn't what I got from that rule announcement at all. I assumed she was just talking about the flip. So I don't think there are investigatives

I was thinking there may be an investigative role but what you say makes sense. I hadn't thought about it that way. But considering there has been no info shared I am guessing that yeah no investigative roles

 

[CWE]

Am I at all right in any of this?

 

[3puppies]

IF we wanna talk accountibuility where was every1 before eod whole thread to myself mazer mad a the bears game only one to show up

I am not available on weekends, due to my couponing. 'Twas a busy week. Occasionally I can make a late-night post.

This isn't what I got from that rule announcement at all. I assumed she was just talking about the flip. So I don't think there are investigatives

Interesting. First, I don't know if Foxxi would do this. I will concede that it is at least plausible. Second, you're basically asking for the Town Investigative role to identify and make themselves an easy target.

I still think, based on both Grumpy and Val voting for you, that our best chance

Vote: Psycho

 

[Mazer]

I can't figure this out without writeups or any info. We know there is a traitor - which Foxxi says will always appear as town, so there has to be someone with investigative role. But nobody shared D2 about info on N1 - which I guess I can understand because sharing will make them a target.

We lost two last night. Grumpy and Val. Grumpy was the leading train and he flipped town. Val is also gone, and he flipped green as well. I am thinking that one was a mafia kill while the other was Foxxi's mark of death. But I can't help but notice that Grumpy was warning us about Psycho, and Val also voted for Psycho. So I am thinking that maybe one of them had the investigator role and may have found scum, but didn't want to out their role. If so, we are probably screwed.

Grumpy's death does tell me that CWE is probably not the investigator, or at least he hadn't found a bad guy. I don't think CWE would post the shrugs emoji so much if he knew for sure. But at least when CWE is town, he understands we need information. I am getting mostly positive vibes from him.



This pings me that you have info you're not sharing. Isn't it possible that ANY of Matt, Val, or Grumpy could have been the traitor? Why are you focused on gc only? And why are you still alive? You voted for GC as well, but so did Psycho and Claws.

@MTR - where are you? You've been pretty quiet, and sitting in the background, not solving makes it hard to figure you out. On the one hand, if you were scum you easily could have voted to take Grumpy out, as only one more vote was needed and you didn't vote. But like Claws said, were you just content to wait for the mark of death?

I am not going to vote early, as even though I am leaning Psycho, if there is a scum killer and a traitor left, I don't want to give them the chance to pile on quickly if I am wrong.

Just catching up, but I fail to see how anyone wouldnt make the same gc assumption.

 

[Mazer]

Wondering what Grumpy's death was intended for. Was he on to someone enough or were they trying to frame me or Claws?

Also, were both kills scumsided or was town responsible for one? I could see where scum maybe killed Val to remain low-key while Grumpy was a vig or something

Val would have been the safest option. Honestly, that just seemed like a by the book play, and why we werent discussing vanilla too much.

There was a death marking. What are the odds that foxxi took out the leading vote getter?

 

[Mazer]

I'm guessing CWE is actually locked behind some kind of curse that forces him to speak on emoticons

When else does he do this?

 

[Mazer]

I want to say that 3pups is just town this time, even if it kind of rubs me the wrong way that he's trying to use role conjecture as a reason to vote me, but I also think scum 3pups probably wouldn't hesitate with just voting right away

Mazer has been inquisitive but unimpactful. Which isn't particularly scummy for him. If anything I kind of expect him to have more leading questions and try to set up shade on more people, but it comes off a bit more like he's trying to gauge everyone.

CWE could be scum pretending to have a posting restriction, but not sure that's really his style. I'm more prone to believe he just had a misguided hunch on Grumpy and is kinda annoyed he can't talk more.

If I'm at all right in this, MTR and Claws become the two most concerning, though MTR is a coin flip and I'm still kind of mixed on whether Claws is posting in a towny way or trying to manipulate the thread while having little accountability himself

It's actually kind of weird Claws has been so reserved with votes now that I think about it

There's one thing that gives me hesitation in paragraph 1.

Paragraph 2 is fair. Trying to get back on flow with limited time and data. Want to get back in specific pattern, because details matter.

P3-has been a year, but he does do something as scum. And he is 100 percent unselfish scum when he draws it.

P4. You may have caught his one statement that concerned me last session.

 

[Mazer]

Ok, let's figure something out

If you're a Vanilla Townie, say so

I am

So

 

[Mazer]

Could marked for death been a double kill? Im not sure that makes sense. But am I being blinder guy?

 

[Mazer]

Could he have been marked for death or val it was a double kill i cant see foxxi giving the scum team a double kill with this many players

Well, thank you cwe.

Wait you ARE NOT CWE.

Although this does fall in with my dk thinking.

 

[Mazer]

I explained why i reserve with votes earlyier to not get a pile in and end early by accident

.....or do you?

 

[Mazer]

IF we wanna talk accountibuility where was every1 before eod whole thread to myself mazer mad a the bears game only one to show up

Fuck that game and fuck the Packers

 

[Mazer]

Suspicious, shifty eyes, panic

You've been curious about the roles and found it kind of suspicious that we haven't had any claims OR felt that the thread was being crazy for thinking as much?

Poke with a stick, cheeky contentment, popcorn, shades

You've been poking because you have nothing else to go on and just want to watch what happens/been getting a kick out of those solving as if we have night action roles?

Am I at all right in any of this?

 

[Claws]

Getting memed by mazer and cwe sure is fun

 

[Mazer]

I am not available on weekends, due to my couponing. 'Twas a busy week. Occasionally I can make a late-night post.



Interesting. First, I don't know if Foxxi would do this. I will concede that it is at least plausible. Second, you're basically asking for the Town Investigative role to identify and make themselves an easy target.

I still think, based on both Grumpy and Val voting for you, that our best chance

Vote: Psycho

This is a thoughtful post. My only caveat would be foxxi asked specifically if we wanted a vanilla game pre-game

 

[Mazer]

Getting memed by mazer and cwe sure is fun

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Ok, I'm pretty sure this is an all vanilla town game, and I kinda suspect those that were talking like they expected night info to exist might have been scum who didn't have a VT role card and therefore speculated heavier on what town might do at night

I dunno, this sounds kind of like flawed reasoning when I say it out loud but

It's the main thing that makes me hesitate on calling 3pups town

 

[Claws]

Ok, I'm pretty sure this is an all vanilla town game, and I kinda suspect those that were talking like they expected night info to exist might have been scum who didn't have a VT role card and therefore speculated heavier on what town might do at night

I dunno, this sounds kind of like flawed reasoning when I say it out loud but

It's the main thing that makes me hesitate on calling 3pups town

I still think it could be the memelords mazer and cwe

 

[Claws]

But idk mtr and 3pups convientpy not around on weekend i kniw pups coupons but eod was sunday late

 

[Mazer]

Ok, I'm pretty sure this is an all vanilla town game, and I kinda suspect those that were talking like they expected night info to exist might have been scum who didn't have a VT role card and therefore speculated heavier on what town might do at night

I dunno, this sounds kind of like flawed reasoning when I say it out loud but

It's the main thing that makes me hesitate on calling 3pups town

I can see both points around this as not being off base.

Let me be more direct on a couple things. You-or anyone else-shoot holes.

Whenever cwe is scum, he doesn't expect to live. He makes a sacrifice play willingly. If he was scum, he would not be against leading an early vote. He sometimes talks less. In that world, im skeptical of people wondering if he had dees. Particularly after his later emoji. Id honestly have to read through again. But that would be what id read for in that scenario.

I did not like claws saying he doesn't vote early. His explanation is sound, but its not the claws I know.....and fell in love with.

Nobody is trusted right now. Some im still watching to see if concerns are patterns.

 

[Mazer]

I still think it could be the memelords mazer and cwe

Could be anyone. What's your thoughts on the why.l?

 

[CWE]

I still think it could be the memelords mazer and cwe

 

[Claws]

"look here idiot, forget about it im an angel" - CWE

 

[PsychoSoldier]

So like...that puts me to at least

I can see both points around this as not being off base.

Let me be more direct on a couple things. You-or anyone else-shoot holes.

Whenever cwe is scum, he doesn't expect to live. He makes a sacrifice play willingly. If he was scum, he would not be against leading an early vote. He sometimes talks less. In that world, im skeptical of people wondering if he had dees. Particularly after his later emoji. Id honestly have to read through again. But that would be what id read for in that scenario.

I did not like claws saying he doesn't vote early. His explanation is sound, but its not the claws I know.....and fell in love with.

Nobody is trusted right now. Some im still watching to see if concerns are patterns.

Just to make sure I'm reading this right, you think CWE might be using emojis to make himself an easy target/blatantly scumside, while other scum might be taking advantage of that to come up with excuses about who to vote?

And I'm assuming this also isn't you saying CWE has to be scum for the theory to work, but that it also provides an avenue for him to be scum

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm kind of at like one in 3pups/Claws/MTR and then maybe CWE as the other if both aren't in those 3

Assuming there's only 2

Against my better judgment I think I vibe and trust Mazer the most right now, especially after those reads/explanations he just gave

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I don't think it's worth speculating too much on who could have been a traitor without seeing a scum flip first

 

[Claws]

I don't think it's worth speculating too much on who could have been a traitor without seeing a scum flip first

I agree here

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Unvote: Claws

Vote: 3pups

 

[MTR]

I don't think it's worth speculating too much on who could have been a traitor without seeing a scum flip first

I am onboard with this. Need to find the scum or at least one of them.

 

[Claws]

Unvote: Claws

Vote: 3pups

The only downside of voting mtr or 3pups is currently both feel lhf they def could be scum my issue is there presence has been pretty eh and would make an easy push but i feel like we need to get a lynch off maybe we wont be marked then

 

[Claws]

Your better at reading mazer and cwe then i am what sticks out towny for you i dont think cwe is forced to do emoticons he was doin those in the sign ups aswell and mazer has been here but im not seeing him actually contrbuite anything worthwhile alot to me is vague like do you see what i see ect that to me personally isnt helpful on the other hand youve had 3pups and mtr do bare min but also not contrbuite much likely the only person i feel decent about is psycho at the moment even tho you 360'd on me after the first day

 

[MTR]

We definitely need to get a yeet. I have been kind of waiting to vote since at this point it would be easy for scum to jump in and take someone out if we are not careful with only needing 4 votes

 

[MTR]

Not sure what to think of CWE at this point.

No one is sticking out to me right now. I mean we all like to try to solve and what not even as scum to throw people off and nothing just stands out right now.

 

[Mazer]

So like...that puts me to at least

Just to make sure I'm reading this right, you think CWE might be using emojis to make himself an easy target/blatantly scumside, while other scum might be taking advantage of that to come up with excuses about who to vote?

And I'm assuming this also isn't you saying CWE has to be scum for the theory to work, but that it also provides an avenue for him to be scum

Less to make it obvious, and more because cwe is inherently limited when he has to advance a scum play. He has to go to image or silence typically.

And because of the timing, its at least a viable consideration.

 

[Mazer]

Your better at reading mazer and cwe then i am what sticks out towny for you i dont think cwe is forced to do emoticons he was doin those in the sign ups aswell and mazer has been here but im not seeing him actually contrbuite anything worthwhile alot to me is vague like do you see what i see ect that to me personally isnt helpful on the other hand youve had 3pups and mtr do bare min but also not contrbuite much likely the only person i feel decent about is psycho at the moment even tho you 360'd on me after the first day

I don't feel like im middle of the pack in putting out reads or sus. Particularly with a year gap. I gave specific reasons

"Not doing enough" as a generic comment is pretty much always a safe way to throw shade without tangible statements to defend

 

[Mazer]

We definitely need to get a yeet. I have been kind of waiting to vote since at this point it would be easy for scum to jump in and take someone out if we are not careful with only needing 4 votes

If you were forced to choose between. 3pups and cwe?

 

[MTR]

If you were forced to choose between. 3pups and cwe?

Probably CWE at this point just because of just using emojis and it may be a way to get around no speaking too much as scum.

 

[3puppies]

This is a thoughtful post. My only caveat would be foxxi asked specifically if we wanted a vanilla game pre-game

I must have missed that. If I saw that, I would have said no thanks, as I have spent several games on the side or in dead chat and I can't read anyone. Except CWE.

Psycho, you got close to talking me out of voting for you.

I have been wrong many times, far more often than not. But more than once I have been talked out of voting for a scum when I have voted for them.

But I also recognize that I will latch on to a theory, and because I thought of it, I don't want to let go until it's proven wrong.

I can't shake the idea that both Val and Grumpy voted for you.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I must have missed that. If I saw that, I would have said no thanks, as I have spent several games on the side or in dead chat and I can't read anyone. Except CWE.

Psycho, you got close to talking me out of voting for you.

I have been wrong many times, far more often than not. But more than once I have been talked out of voting for a scum when I have voted for them.

But I also recognize that I will latch on to a theory, and because I thought of it, I don't want to let go until it's proven wrong.

I can't shake the idea that both Val and Grumpy voted for you.

I don't care if you vote me, but assuming Grumpy or Val had any info when the game is increasingly looking like all vanilla town and neither of them claimed as much...that's faulty logic at best, manipulative at worst

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Let's also consider that fact that Foxxi has only shown the alignment for flips, not any roles

 

[Foxxi]

1 - Psych: Pups (208),
1 - Pups: Psych (223),

Not currently voting:
MTR, Mazer, CWE, Claws
Day Three ends Wednesday @8pm eastern. With Six living, majority is four.

 

[Claws]

Let's also consider that fact that Foxxi has only shown the alignment for flips, not any roles

What a bastard eh

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Can we consolidate and actually get a lynch today? At this rate I don't even care if it's me

 

[MTR]

I was just coming in here to say we need to get a yeet off today.

 

[Mazer]

Agree.

Anybody could be voted for right now. There's rationale. Here's how i see the 2 main trains.

For cwe: I've laid out my theory where this could be a tactic similar to what I've seen before. But that's a speculation at best. He could also stop his train at any time.

For 3pups: He's a smart guy, and his stated rationale for psych being based on the votes is spotty.

Also:

Relative to
Psych: Ill also go ahead and say that I have rarely seen him act afraid of a vote when he's been scum. Hes pretty confident that you're going to have to come hard at him, and even then he can usually get off.

Get your mind out of the gutter.

But there is an argument that he could have been more covert in determining if this is a vanilla game. There could have been something there.


For claws:
I didn't love his vote early comment. Hes at least making effort. I need to reread, but my gut says if cwe would be dirty, look to the claw.

For mtr:
I dunno. I would like to see him place a marker down. Mildly scummy vibes. But im not confident. If it was a powers game, id be calling for vetting.

 

[Mazer]

Right. Also forgot that i needed to launch this train.

Vote: cwe

 

[MTR]

having votes on three people at this point not be productive though. guess it makes it harder for scum to jump in and take someone out quickly though.

I have been going back and forth on CWE more than others at this point. I would say I am leaning that direction but just trying to see what others are thinking, I don't want to vote there yet

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Unvote: 3pups

Vote: CWE

 

[MTR]

I am worried about getting back on here before EOD and I don't want to screw up and not vote again. So going to go with my gut on this one

Vote: CWE

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm not 100% sold CWE is the best shot myself, but Mazer's logic is sound and I'd rather have control over the kill instead of letting RNG choose with the death mark

 

[Mazer]

If cwe tells me its bad or uses right words to say he is clear, im prepared to immediately jump my vote

 

[Mazer]

Hes done that before. And Im going to be bad and try to watch while sitting in traffic. In that event, i am comfortable trying a jump to 3p

 

[Claws]

Vote: cwe

Sorry i was eating dinner

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Hes done that before. And Im going to be bad and try to watch while sitting in traffic. In that event, i am comfortable trying a jump to 3p

You think Claws is more likely to be paired with CWE, if I read you right? Or is there not a specific difference in partners for you?

 

[Claws]

I wont be back i think thats lynch i have xmas stuff to do

 

[Claws]

You think Claws is more likely to be paired with CWE, if I read you right? Or is there not a specific difference in partners for you?

Im not any1 partner

 

[Mazer]

You think Claws is more likely to be paired with CWE, if I read you right? Or is there not a specific difference in partners for you?

Correct. But again. Reread would be on who advanced dees theory. In case there's others im not remembering

 

[Mazer]

You think Claws is more likely to be paired with CWE, if I read you right? Or is there not a specific difference in partners for you?

To be clear, my earlier claws concern on post re votes is independent of cwe.

As is my read on 3p.

But I thought it was claws who was more into cwe for gc. So Id want to double check, but if I remember correctly claws percentages would then go up.

He could still play that route if cwe is clean, and hes scum. But the correlation is weaker

 

[Foxxi]

It is now night. CWE has been yeeted, and the blood gods have been appeased today. A boon has been granted. CWE was a town motion detector.

4 - CWE: Mazer (251), Psych (253), MTR (254), Claws (258)
1 - Psych: Pups (208),

Not currently voting:
CWE

Ghosts may haunt the thread
@Matthieu
@GrumpyCat
@Val the Moofia Boss
@CWE

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

GHHOOOOSSSSSTTTT

 

[CWE]

 

[CWE]

 

[CWE]

4 - CWE: Mazer (251), Psych (253), MTR (254), Claws (258)

@Mazer

@PsychoSoldier

@MTR

@Claws

 

[Matthieu]

Avenge us!

 

[CWE]

 

[GrumpyCat]

 

[GrumpyCat]

GHHOOOOSSSSSTTTT

Did you try to do something to me night 1 that pinged motion detector ?

Yo CWE, you got some motion on me right? You wouldn't try to misyeet me for shit and giggles.

 

[CWE]

 

[GrumpyCat]

Yeah you did the right thing, you should out investigative things and see what happens.
So the scum are Psycho MTR and Claws is a traitor? but not sure why this game is still going numberwise. Otherwise it is 1 scum and 2 traitors but it turns info - find the demon - again.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Avenge us!

Whats up? i thought you wanted to play a fun game with Val but when opportunity comes up you seem very lurky.

Any ideas about the game. I am kind of sus here so nobody cares clealy but you seem like confirmed town so it matters.

 

[Matthieu]

Whats up? i thought you wanted to play a fun game with Val but when opportunity comes up you seem very lurky.

Huh? I didn't get much of a chance to post since I got eliminated on N1...

Any ideas about the game. I am kind of sus here so nobody cares clealy but you seem like confirmed town so it matters.

There's definitely scum who voted for CWE.

The question, then, is where would they reside? At the start, middle or end?

I reckon they'd either sit snugly in the middle to get some plausible deniability - which would be Psych and MTR.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I had no powers Grumpy.

 

[Foxxi]

The sun rises, birds sing, a gentle wind rustles the trees. It's a beautiful day.

Ghosts retreat to the shadows once more.
Day four deadline Saturday 12/13 @8pm eastern. With five living, majority is three.

It is MyLo.

 

[Claws]

damn does any other town feel like these ghosts are worthless shits fuck me what a long night to do nothing but read bs

 

[Claws]

like who did cwe motion detect woudl of been great info

 

[MTR]

Interesting. No death so is there a protection role out there?

 

[MTR]

yeah some info would have been nice

 

[Claws]

i assume they cant kill unless they have a marked death or its every other night idk

 

[Claws]

maybe they magically forgot

 

[Claws]

scum will likely just sit and wait til one of the town votes imo and then pile on so be weary of that

 

[Mazer]

Im assuming mylo means that we haven't got the traitor yet.

Fucking fuck fuck.

Right now, psych could be fooling me but I dont think hes the most probable.

Lets nobody make a rush vote on this.

Claws, do you have a read on mtr?

 

[MTR]

scum will likely just sit and wait til one of the town votes imo and then pile on so be weary of that

yeah we need to be careful to avoid that

 

[MTR]

i assume they cant kill unless they have a marked death or its every other night idk

first night without a death so maybe it was blocked

 

[MTR]

maybe they magically forgot

wouldn't be the first time a scum forgot to do actions lol

 

[Claws]

Im assuming mylo means that we haven't got the traitor yet.

Fucking fuck fuck.

Right now, psych could be fooling me but I dont think hes the most probable.

Lets nobody make a rush vote on this.

Claws, do you have a read on mtr?

Im confused is there even a traitor i didnt read where there would be one

 

[Claws]

wouldn't be the first time a scum forgot to do actions lol

Tends to only happen with lemons

 

[Claws]

Im assuming mylo means that we haven't got the traitor yet.

Fucking fuck fuck.

Right now, psych could be fooling me but I dont think hes the most probable.

Lets nobody make a rush vote on this.

Claws, do you have a read on mtr?

No i dont have a read on mtr at the moment

 

[3puppies]

I would have posted right away but my wife has been having complications from her surgery last week. Rough day yesterday and last night for her, right now things are looking up. Good thoughts are appreciated, My daughter is bringing her to the 1 week follow up with her doctor.


I had to look up MyLo, which is Misyeet and Lose. With 5 of us left, that has to mean two of you are evil. We lose if we choose the wrong person.

I don't really trust any of you. But I am going to have to trust two of you, and we will have to agree.

I voted for Claws twice, and have been getting bad vibes from the beginning. I could be overly suspicious. But Claws is right that the ghosts have done us no favors, and right that we need to be careful about scum piling on for a quick hammer if we nominate a townie.

Psycho seemed too convinced that this was an all vanilla game, and switched to the CWE train to get a yeet. I recall how proud he seemed in a prior game that he talked his way out of a lynch when I started the train. While I do like his solving. I really didn't like his dismissal of my theory that there had to be an investigative role if there was a traitor, but moreso his attempt to get everyone to reveal their role. Very scummy vibe to me. Then again, his suggestion yesterday that we must yeet someone, even if it was him, felt genuine. Could my distrust be mostly because I was voting for him?

MTR feels like he's been sitting back, and solving very little. Same mild sus vibe I have with Claws. I have noticed that MTR pushes more on members of the house, but he has no family members playing in this game. He was the only non-voter early on the day Grumpy's train was short one vote of a lynch, and since Grumpy flipped green, it could have been an easy misyeet if he was evil. Someone - I think it was Claws - pointed out that scum may be content sitting back waiting for the mark of death.

And Mazer. I am always sus of him, and it gets stronger whenever he survives a few nights. He is a very smart player and becomes a target because of his solving ability when he is town. He has thrown shade on everyone. He pointed out something that pinged him about Claws. The fact that he seems to be soft protecting Psycho at the moment pings me. He's also made comments about the traitor mechanic that made me wonder and look things up. The traitor usually knows the scum identity, but the scum doesn't know the traitor. In bigger games where there are multiple scum, the traitor might know only one of them. Could Mazer have been sending signals that he was the traitor? Mazer not joining me on the Psycho train, nor joining Psycho on the Claws train, but instead starting the CWE train, does baffle me though.

I have to decide which of you two are working together.

I am guessing it comes down to maybe Claws/MTR, or Psycho/Mazer? ????

I do agree with Mazer when he said

"Fucking fuck fuck"

I have something else to add, but I want to see everyone's reaction to this first.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Yeah, I don't know

We could maybe see if we can No Lynch and force scum to do a kill and narrow down our pool some more.

I feel like I should reread the whole thread, but I'm not sure that will yield much

Im still thinking at least one in MTR/3pups/Claws, but which one? Beats me

 

[Claws]

Who decided to swap us all off of 3pups to cwe? Just curious that may have been to save a partner

 

[Claws]

I would have posted right away but my wife has been having complications from her surgery last week. Rough day yesterday and last night for her, right now things are looking up. Good thoughts are appreciated, My daughter is bringing her to the 1 week follow up with her doctor.


I had to look up MyLo, which is Misyeet and Lose. With 5 of us left, that has to mean two of you are evil. We lose if we choose the wrong person.

I don't really trust any of you. But I am going to have to trust two of you, and we will have to agree.

I voted for Claws twice, and have been getting bad vibes from the beginning. I could be overly suspicious. But Claws is right that the ghosts have done us no favors, and right that we need to be careful about scum piling on for a quick hammer if we nominate a townie.

Psycho seemed too convinced that this was an all vanilla game, and switched to the CWE train to get a yeet. I recall how proud he seemed in a prior game that he talked his way out of a lynch when I started the train. While I do like his solving. I really didn't like his dismissal of my theory that there had to be an investigative role if there was a traitor, but moreso his attempt to get everyone to reveal their role. Very scummy vibe to me. Then again, his suggestion yesterday that we must yeet someone, even if it was him, felt genuine. Could my distrust be mostly because I was voting for him?

MTR feels like he's been sitting back, and solving very little. Same mild sus vibe I have with Claws. I have noticed that MTR pushes more on members of the house, but he has no family members playing in this game. He was the only non-voter early on the day Grumpy's train was short one vote of a lynch, and since Grumpy flipped green, it could have been an easy misyeet if he was evil. Someone - I think it was Claws - pointed out that scum may be content sitting back waiting for the mark of death.

And Mazer. I am always sus of him, and it gets stronger whenever he survives a few nights. He is a very smart player and becomes a target because of his solving ability when he is town. He has thrown shade on everyone. He pointed out something that pinged him about Claws. The fact that he seems to be soft protecting Psycho at the moment pings me. He's also made comments about the traitor mechanic that made me wonder and look things up. The traitor usually knows the scum identity, but the scum doesn't know the traitor. In bigger games where there are multiple scum, the traitor might know only one of them. Could Mazer have been sending signals that he was the traitor? Mazer not joining me on the Psycho train, nor joining Psycho on the Claws train, but instead starting the CWE train, does baffle me though.

I have to decide which of you two are working together.

I am guessing it comes down to maybe Claws/MTR, or Psycho/Mazer? ????

I do agree with Mazer when he said

"Fucking fuck fuck"

I have something else to add, but I want to see everyone's reaction to this first.

I like this post suprisingly i also trust no1 this games been rough and the ghosts are useless memes at best

 

[MTR]

I was leaning CWE but was waiting to vote and then voted because I was not going to be around the rest of the phase and I think Psycho switched and forgot who hammered.

 

[Claws]

I hammered i had xmas stuff to do

 

[3puppies]

Yeah, I don't know

We could maybe see if we can No Lynch and force scum to do a kill and narrow down our pool some more.

I feel like I should reread the whole thread, but I'm not sure that will yield much

Im still thinking at least one in MTR/3pups/Claws, but which one? Beats me

A few things about this -

First, this reads to me as a soft defense of your partner Mazer. That may be my paranoia.

Second, I am trying to understand your thinking. We are at 3-1-1 town/scum/traitor, but MyLo. A No Lynch and a scum kill at night makes it 2-1-1, which is parity game over, scum victory, or it makes it 3-1-0 if scum kills the traitor, and the game continues. We'd be looking at a 1 in 4 chance of the game even continuing with no lynch. If we MisYeet, we lose.

You have reminded me, though, that I don't have to decide who both scum are just yet. I just have to find one first. So in reality, we are at a 2 in 4 chance of losing right now by mis-yeeting.

I used to be a lot better at statistics, but I've been working on very little sleep for a few days now.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

A few things about this -

First, this reads to me as a soft defense of your partner Mazer. That may be my paranoia.

Second, I am trying to understand your thinking. We are at 3-1-1 town/scum/traitor, but MyLo. A No Lynch and a scum kill at night makes it 2-1-1, which is parity game over, scum victory, or it makes it 3-1-0 if scum kills the traitor, and the game continues. We'd be looking at a 1 in 4 chance of the game even continuing with no lynch. If we MisYeet, we lose.

You have reminded me, though, that I don't have to decide who both scum are just yet. I just have to find one first. So in reality, we are at a 2 in 4 chance of losing right now by mis-yeeting.

I used to be a lot better at statistics, but I've been working on very little sleep for a few days now.

MyLo means we won't lose if we don't yeet. LyLo is the one where it means we HAVE to lynch and have to lynch correctly or else we lose

I don't know what the numbers are exactly, but I don't think Foxxi would specifically say we are at MyLo if it meant a No Lynch will lead to game over