Mafia 17 - The Interim Throne

[Badger]

Listorella found some Listorine and got their voice back lol.

 

[Robozerim]

That does seem to the colour for the Unseen. Good start if you're not on their team.

 

[ForgottenHold]

Prince can't execute N1. Knight can't attack directly last night, Hunter has Bear. Easily could've been a neutral killer. Which we have.

Right.

 

[ForgottenHold]

I’m unsure, would N1 have been a recruitment night for Unseen or a kill night?

 

[Listo95]

I’m unsure, would N1 have been a recruitment night for Unseen or a kill night?

Both. Mastermind recruits, Assassin kills.

 

[Satsu]

Someone tried to kill me last night but got healed lol.

 

[Satsu]

Not sure how important is the wording but i guess that wasnt a knight.

 

[Robozerim]

Someone tried to kill me last night but got healed lol.

One could say, they tried to shoot the dog. That's a real bitch. It's a real dog eat dog world here.

 

[Robozerim]

One more...
Attacking somebody who was healed? Sounds like they were barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Badger]

Someone tried to kill me last night but got healed lol.

Any guesses info on to what role/how you got healed? Any info you can share would be helpful.

 

[Robozerim]

It's probably safe to say that the attempted murderer didn't feel any puppy love towards him.

 

[Listo95]

Someone tried to kill me last night but got healed lol.

Makes the Unseen/Sorc chance even greater now imo.

 

[Robozerim]

Any guesses info on to what role/how you got healed? Any info you can share would be helpful.

Yeah, man, throw us all a bone. Don't make us use puppy dog eyes on you!

 

[Satsu]

Asuming bn tried to kill me he wasnt reaped. Should not flip yet.

I know i was healed didnt say protected if feedback is that specific so it would have to be physician or alchemist

 

[Badger]

Hmm…puppy has come up again. With a puppy-named player amongst our midst

 

[Badger]

@3puppies did you do anything last night?

 

[Matthieu]

A wonderful night!

 

[Badger]

A wonderful night!

Yeahhh whatevs

 

[Satsu]

Anyone got deets already? I dont know who to vote on.

 

[Badger]

Anyone got deets already? I dont know who to vote on.

Robo seems to be hinting puppy a lot.

 

[Robozerim]

Robo seems to be hinting puppy a lot.

I'm afraid I'm just bein' silly and felt like saying a bunch of dog related phrases and sayings because Satsu's avatar is a dog.

 

[Satsu]

I thought you got post restriction for dog stuff.

 

[Badger]

I'm afraid I'm just bein' silly and felt like saying a bunch of dog related phrases and sayings because Satsu's avatar is a dog.

Okay, still 3pups may choose to answer or not. Curious because weekend time is coupon time usually lol

 

[Badger]

I thought you got post restriction for dog stuff.

Oh?

 

[Matthieu]

Yeahhh whatevs

A wonderful night!

 

[Satsu]

Jester and scorned can do post restrictions but it is a day action and its early in a day.

 

[Badger]

Jester and scorned can do post restrictions but it is a day action and its early in a day.

Interesante!

Still will wait on 3pups to see if he has anything.

 

[Badger]

A wonderful night!

Yeah anything else? Especially since your biggest defender was scum

 

[Robozerim]

Jester and scorned can do post restrictions but it is a day action and its early in a day.

It would actually be kind of funny if I did suddenly get a post restriction where I need to post about dogs at this point.

 

[Matthieu]

Yeah anything else? Especially since your biggest defender was scum

Perhaps he defended me with the intention of hoping to cast doubt on me if he, himself, were to be eliminated. Or perhaps he recognised that there really wasn't any reason to go after me back on D1 and spoke up with the hope of earning some favour by defending me.

I did point out back on D1 that it was needlessly risky to avoid eliminating someone in a game with a confirmed cult.

 

[Matthieu]

We can also safely take his words at face value, actually - I believe he pointed out directly that it was my first game back after a break and that he didn't want to vote on me for that reason, something that goes beyond factional alignments. I am guaranteed to be fairly active, too, so that's another reason not to take me out early on if there is no real evidence to bring to bear against me.

 

[Badger]

Hmmm…

I know there is a “gentleman’s agreement” not to just rush in like say Foxxi getting killed over and over. It was also my first game back after a while yet I was getting grilled yet Matt seems to be getting off relatively Scot-free if you like.

Now Matt has responded and taking that into consideration. I guess what I’m trying to say is…I hope this defending isn’t mostly because he’s back among us.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

RIP. He had a redemption arc only to die.

 

[Satsu]

He didnt even bleed anyone.

 

[Badger]

Still want to hear from 3pups to confirm this “puppy stuff”

 

[CWE]

Interesting...

 

[Listo95]

He didnt even bleed anyone.

As LoNg As ThEy GoT a CoNvErT tHeY cAn. BlEeD iS nOt LiMiTeD tO fIrSt SiN. pLuS sIdE iS tHaT oNcE mM dIeS tHeY cAnNoT cOnVeRt.

ThE hEaL oN SaTsU iS nIcE. i TrUsT hIm DuE tO tHaT. eVeRyOnE eLsE iS lEsS. i Go SlEeP nOw.

 

[morrison]

Yeah anything else? Especially since your biggest defender was scum

in a game of two starting scum, it makes no sense to go hard on defending your scum buddy. BN is a player who would realize this.

 

[CWE]

A likely story...

 

[morrison]

Hmmm…

I know there is a “gentleman’s agreement” not to just rush in like say Foxxi getting killed over and over. It was also my first game back after a while yet I was getting grilled yet Matt seems to be getting off relatively Scot-free if you like.

Now Matt has responded and taking that into consideration. I guess what I’m trying to say is…I hope this defending isn’t mostly because he’s back among us.

it's almost as if you have 60 posts more than the next closest person in the game.

 

[Badger]

in a game of two starting scum, it makes no sense to go hard on defending your scum buddy. BN is a player who would realize this.

Will just say fair point.

Doesn’t change me up or down about Matt currently but will consider.

 

[Badger]

it's almost as if you have 60 posts more than the next closest person in the game.

Okay your last point was good. Now you’re just being “oh no badger pooosts lots”

Don’t push it please.

 

[Badger]

Just try and make a point without being arrogant/arsey for once.

 

[morrison]

Okay your last point was good. Now you’re just being “oh no badger pooosts lots”

Don’t push it please.

no, i'm saying it is no surprise that you would be getting attention when you have posted three times more than everybody else in the thread. ffs.

 

[morrison]

Just try and make a point without being arrogant/arsey for once.

fuck off. you are fucking insufferable.

 

[Badger]

no, i'm saying it is no surprise that you would be getting attention when you have posted three times more than everybody else in the thread. ffs.

But…you’re not making it any better by antagonising.

I’m not stupid. You just can’t be nice, aleaaays gotta be right.

 

[Badger]

fuck off. you are fucking insufferable.

Case in point.

 

[CWE]

Get a room you two...

 

[Badger]

I’m just trying to play but morri…

aye

 

[Robozerim]

As LoNg As ThEy GoT a CoNvErT tHeY cAn. BlEeD iS nOt LiMiTeD tO fIrSt SiN. pLuS sIdE iS tHaT oNcE mM dIeS tHeY cAnNoT cOnVeRt.

ThE hEaL oN SaTsU iS nIcE. i TrUsT hIm DuE tO tHaT. eVeRyOnE eLsE iS lEsS. i Go SlEeP nOw.

Jesus Christ, I think we found the person with a post restriction. Alternating between capital and lower case with each letter sounds like a nightmarish hell to be forced into and I'd be shocked if somebody would be willing to do it of their own accord.

 

[Robozerim]

Unless of course they were just trying to prove me wrong to spite me, I can of course see many people doing that.

 

[morrison]

Unless of course they were just trying to prove me wrong to spite me, I can of course see many people doing that.

they posted normally earlier, so i don't think it's a posting gimmick.

 

[Robozerim]

they posted normally earlier, so i don't think it's a posting gimmick.

It was pointed out that it's a day action, which would mean they may not have been at the mercy of the restriction earlier but are now.

Of course, he could just really be dedicated to making one post where he alternates between capital and lower case letters. iT mAkEs A sEnTeNcE lOoK kInDa MoCkInG aNd Oh GoD tHiS iS aWfUl.

 

[Badger]

don’t explain caps to morri lol

 

[Robozerim]

don’t explain caps to morri lolI

I don't feel like going into the intricacies of post nuclear apocalyptic economics anyway.

 

[Badger]

I don't feel like going into the intricacies of post nuclear apocalyptic economics anyway.

He’s like one of those exes that keep nagging..but yeah let’s not detract because whatever I say is too many posts for him.

Still interested in 3pups reaction. Reasonably ok on CWE, Satsu, Xan and you. Future leaning good too but the rest ehhh need more opinions.

 

[Matthieu]

Hmmm…

I know there is a “gentleman’s agreement” not to just rush in like say Foxxi getting killed over and over. It was also my first game back after a while yet I was getting grilled yet Matt seems to be getting off relatively Scot-free if you like.

Now Matt has responded and taking that into consideration. I guess what I’m trying to say is…I hope this defending isn’t mostly because he’s back among us.

I wasn't aware that you took a break as I wasn't keeping track of the games that I missed, so it has very little to do with me. I did participate in the previous game that was anonymous but fell prey fairly early on to the 'switch out' mechanic and so didn't really get the chance to work off the rust. Plus I was laying low as I was a protective role and did not want to put my head above the crowd for no reason.

 

[CWE]

Hmmm...so for vets of this style. What townies need to out their info?

Everytime we've played this style, I've had the IDGAF role.

 

[3puppies]

I was not able to act last night.

Had a really solid day couponing with close to 60 large boxes of tampons, and 60 sunblock, and probably a hundred toothpaste. Kind of a nice chance from all the shampoo/bodywash and deodorants from the past couple months.

I also scored a few hundred school supplies like 24 ct pencils, pens, notebooks, journals, scissors, folders, etc. And lots of tape.

Tomorrow (well, later today now) since its a holiday I will be doubling down on the stores I missed today. Sorry I won't be around for this day period.

 

[Satsu]

Still interested in 3pups reaction.

Did you like it?

I think thats a likely story ;>

 

[Badger]

Did you like it?

I think thats a likely story ;>

It seems honest.

So if Robo got hit with a restriction, puppy/dogs is an interesting choice.

 

[Badger]

I wasn't aware that you took a break as I wasn't keeping track of the games that I missed, so it has very little to do with me. I did participate in the previous game that was anonymous but fell prey fairly early on to the 'switch out' mechanic and so didn't really get the chance to work off the rust. Plus I was laying low as I was a protective role and did not want to put my head above the crowd for no reason.

Fair enough.

My general point (not just at you btw) is if someone takes a break after a long time, unless like Foxxi they’re getting targeted so yeah bit of breathing room but otherwise yeah treat everyone the same.

 

[Badger]

Hmmm...so for vets of this style. What townies need to out their info?

Everytime we've played this style, I've had the IDGAF role.

Town but got no info on my end.

 

[Matthieu]

Hmmm...so for vets of this style. What townies need to out their info?

Everytime we've played this style, I've had the IDGAF role.

Listo is arguably the player with the most knowledge when it comes to this style of game overall - potentially why he was hit with a restriction, now that I think on it. Or just an unfortunate coincidence.

As for outing information that reveals roles, I don't think that's wise unless there's something completely guaranteed to condemn an untrustworthy player. Even then, they'll just make themselves a prime target for a kill or worse yet recruitment.

Which brings me to my next point. Nobody should be above suspicion. Nobody. I see so many cult games devolve into a cult victory because too few people want to go after 'trusted town players' based on stuff they said or did earlier on in the game even though there's some excellent reasons to doubt their credibility in the mid to late game when they are not only still alive but very likely to have been turned to the dark side.

I may be preaching to the choir with that, though. Or at least I hope so.

 

[Badger]

Question for @Satsu as really just curious.

Any reason you didn’t vote last phase or were you just not around?

 

[Satsu]

I didnt want to yeet anyone. To low odds to get it right at random. No solid enough reads at that point.

 

[Badger]

I didnt want to yeet anyone. To low odds to get it right at random. No solid enough reads at that point.

Fair.

 

[Badger]

Listo is arguably the player with the most knowledge when it comes to this style of game overall - potentially why he was hit with a restriction, now that I think on it. Or just an unfortunate coincidence.

As for outing information that reveals roles, I don't think that's wise unless there's something completely guaranteed to condemn an untrustworthy player. Even then, they'll just make themselves a prime target for a kill or worse yet recruitment.

Which brings me to my next point. Nobody should be above suspicion. Nobody. I see so many cult games devolve into a cult victory because too few people want to go after 'trusted town players' based on stuff they said or did earlier on in the game even though there's some excellent reasons to doubt their credibility in the mid to late game when they are not only still alive but very likely to have been turned to the dark side.

I may be preaching to the choir with that, though. Or at least I hope so.

As for thiis.

Yeah some good points and a cult game which is different. However if they have anything with the protective roles out there too, they shouldn’t be afraid to at least speak up if they at least think they have something IMO.

 

[Badger]

Oh wait…this is Memorial Day itself innit? No wonder it’s so quiet just now…I think.

As a UKer, I probably just don’t grasp the mangnitude of how big it is over there.

Anyway enjoy your day.

 

[Satsu]

Dont be shy to vote ppl. It is only a vote for a trial. It is the advertised fun part.

Vote: MitchRapp

 

[Xanjori]

I have reason to believe Listo is a good guy

 

[Satsu]

Oh I thought he isn't BD. But you are like almost a champion, so what can i know :D

 

[Satsu]

I mean mafia world champion. WP

 

[Badger]

Dont be shy to vote ppl. It is only a vote for a trial. It is the advertised fun part.

Vote: MitchRapp

I can get behind this. Guy hasn’t said a word since he went on at me so who knows.
Vote: MitchRapp

 

[Satsu]

If someone wants to make a train on LDG because she is an sk that killed bn it would be kind of towny

 

[Satsu]

Or blue dragoney

 

[MTR]

I have reason to believe Listo is a good guy

Not exactly what he breadcrumbed/claimed already.

 

[MTR]

Sorry for not being around last night. Stupid head was bothering me so hard to focus. I don't have any major plans today beyond stuff around the house like I have this whole week. No storms today unlike yesterday so may try out my new hammock and hammock stand later with my mead. :)

 

[MTR]

Any reason for voting to put Mitch on trial?

 

[Badger]

Any reason for voting to put Mitch on trial?

Satsu makes a point about using a vote for a trial.

From my end, guy hasn’t said a word in ages so how can we get a read on him if he isn’t doing anything.

 

[Satsu]

Any reason for voting to put Mitch on trial?

I made an on the knee analysis of the game and sorted out good guys and not likely with BN ppl. So it left a group of scum potentials. Mitch is in there with some others.

I said in signups those are fun games and I am worried he isn't having fun.

 

[Satsu]

Did everyone make a post today? It is still possible there was a reap.

 

[Satsu]

I dont see Mitch and LDG

 

[MTR]

Yeah I was just about to say at a quick glance that is who I see missing

 

[Badger]

There’s also the fact

Did everyone make a post today? It is still possible there was a reap.

A reap?

What does that do? Silence them?

 

[Satsu]

They look as alive in game for one day. But they are already dead, cant talk cant vote ect.

But to me it looks like the only way there is a reaper is if BN would use 2 night kills ability and targeted me and I was healed and fell into bear trap.

 

[Satsu]

So i would bet on sorceror magic mistle or it can be a possessor.

I dont think posesor ever apeared in those games. its the most complicated one.

 

[Badger]

Hmm…

If that’s what it does or even indeed happened…seems a couple of weird choices. One fairly new and well..LDG (no offense) but typically she’s not an early target.

 

[Satsu]

if BN would use 2 night kills ability and targeted me and I was healed and fell into bear trap.

Could also be circle of death.

I dont think it matters as much what the exact SK type there is.

Dont get distracted.

 

[Satsu]

Could also be circle of death.

Cant be really. His 2nd target would still die ;<

 

[Satsu]

Just read the rules. We can have even 2 trials in one day? If we do it quickly.

Come on everyone put someone on trial. Thats the way.

 

[Satsu]

Oh wait…this is Memorial Day itself innit?

In loving memory of BN.

If he only rolled a better Mastermind.

 

[Satsu]

Just read the posesor for first time really and i am worried it could be it.

 

[Badger]

I just hope tomorrow’s a bit better activity wise. Understandable given today but yeah.

 

[Satsu]

I did point out back on D1 that it was needlessly risky to avoid eliminating someone in a game with a confirmed cult.

It is a confirmed unseen right?

Anything to add?

 

[Badger]

Also cool with two trains/trials if anyone wants to set up something on say LDG for example.

 

[Satsu]

Hey LDG tell us what your role is and you wont be put on trial.

BN is dead. he didnt kill you last time but he could have. Better safe than sorry. You already won.

 

[Listo95]

It is a confirmed unseen right?

Anything to add?

Just read the posesor for first time really and i am worried it could be it.

I aSsUmE tHiS iS jUsT sEmAnTiCs. CuLt AnD uNsEeN aRe BoTh EsSeNtIaLlY cUlTs JuSt OnE iS aCtUaLlY nAmEd CuLt ThE oThEr IsN'T. i'M nOt SuRe AbOuT iF iT iS a PoSsEsSoR oR nOt. If We HaVe A pHyS tHeY sHoUlD dEf ChEcK.

aDvEnTuRiNg KnIgHt LaIoS tOuDeN lEaDs A sMaLl PaRtY tHrOuGh A sEeMiNgLy EnDlEsS dUnGeOn, A sUbTeRrAnEaN mAzE fUlL oF dAnGeRoUs MoNsTeRs AnD pReCaRiOuS tRaPs. ThRoUgH tHe UsE oF aDvAnCeD mAgIc, An ExPlOrEr CaN sOmEtImEs Be ReSuRrEcTeD, aLlOwInG tHeM tO lEaRn FrOm PaSt MiStAkEs AnD gIvE tRaVeRsInG tHe DuNgEoN aNoThEr Go. HoWeVeR, wHeN a PoWeRfUl DrAgOn EaTs FaLiN, lAiOs SpElLcAsTiNg SiStEr, ShE sEnDs HeR bRoThEr AnD hIs CoMpAnIoNs BaCk To ThE bEgInNiNg To SaVe ThEm FrOm PeRmAnEnT eNdS.

 

[MitchRapp]

Hello everyone. We had some nightmarish travel Saturday evening that spilled into Sunday. Back home now and getting caught up. Getting Blind Ninja on the first night seems like a big get all things considered.

Satsu looks to be in the clear.

I cannot imagine having to type like Listo is. If its just a bit then good on him for the commitment to it.

 

[Satsu]

Satsu looks to be in the clear.