Mafia 17 - The Interim Throne

[MitchRapp]

We seem to be on to something here. I will give them each a chance to come in and then we can get a trial!

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Badger - 2 (3puppies #554, LDG #590)
Robozerim - 2 (Satsu #598, CWE #599
3puppies - 1 (Val #578)
Sleep - 1 (Badger #589)

Not Voting: FutureHold, MitchRapp, morrison, MTR, Robozerim, Xanjori, Matthieu #519

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end when a player is executed, two trials end in pardon, or 48 hours pass (May 31st 8:00pm ET). With 13 players alive, a majority nomination for treason requires 7 votes on a player.

 

[3puppies]

I will always trust CWE and our Prince.

For now, I will Unvote: Badger

and

Vote: Robozerim

 

[CWE]

I will always trust CWE and our Prince.

For now, I will Unvote: Badger

and

Vote: Robozerim

You're trusting me to trust someone else?

 

[MitchRapp]

Well that is 3 people from the clean pile on this vote. I was thinking it has to be one of the two possible bear/hunter guys.

I guess they will have a chance to defend themselves when the trial starts.

Vote: Robo

 

[Satsu]

I dont think hunter was the one who bleed CWE.

That would be like open wolfing.

 

[Badger]

Back from my bike ride and read back. Looks like Robo’s got some splaining to do sooo

Vote: Robo

 

[Badger]

EVWOP. In case Void wants us to Unicode first actually…

Unvote: Sleep

noow

Vote: Robo

 

[MitchRapp]

I dont think hunter was the one who bleed CWE.

That would be like open wolfing.

Im confused. Im saying I think the vote has to be for one of those two guys. I was hoping one of them would show and make a case.

 

[Satsu]

Observer is not unique it doesnt have to be. Its just that Badger think Robo is the hunter and he cant be at the same time as Matthieu.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Robozerim - 5 (Satsu #598, CWE #599, 3puppies #603, MitchRapp #605, Badger #608))
3puppies - 1 (Val #578)
Badger - 1 (LDG #590)

Not Voting: FutureHold, morrison, MTR, Robozerim, Xanjori, Matthieu #519

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end when a player is executed, two trials end in pardon, or 48 hours pass (May 31st 8:00pm ET). With 13 players alive, a majority nomination for treason requires 7 votes on a player.

 

[MTR]

Okay this ended up just not being a good week to try to play mafia. Especially since I will be out again most of today. We should at least get to a trial and go from there. I will try to check in as much as I can but doing some traveling today.

Vote: Robo

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Robozerim - 6 (Satsu #598, CWE #599, 3puppies #603, MitchRapp #605, Badger #608, MTR #612)
3puppies - 1 (Val #578)
Badger - 1 (LDG #590)

Not Voting: FutureHold, morrison, Robozerim, Xanjori, Matthieu #519

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end when a player is executed, two trials end in pardon, or 48 hours pass (May 31st 8:00pm ET). With 13 players alive, a majority nomination for treason requires 7 votes on a player.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Ok fine
Vote: Robozerim

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Robozerim - 7 (Satsu #598, CWE #599, 3puppies #603, MitchRapp #605, Badger #608, MTR #612, LDG #614)
3puppies - 1 (Val #578)

Not Voting: FutureHold, morrison, Robozerim, Xanjori, Matthieu #519

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With that, the group came to a majority and pushed Robozerim up in front of them to speak in his defense as the trial began.

Robozerim is now on Trial.

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It is now the Trial of Robo. The trial will end when a majority of players vote Execute or Pardon or 12 hours pass (12:00am ET on May 31st). With 12 eligible voting players, majority is 7 votes. If a player is pardoned, the day will continue until 8:00pm ET on May 31st. Another trial can be had. If the player is executed, the day will end. If majority is not reached by the end of trial, all non voters will automatically abstain and Execution/Pardon will be decided by a simple majority of voters. Ties will pardon.

 

[Robozerim]

No sorry i am slow what role you are? I just thought Robo was the observer.

Observer? Me? Not very observant of you, I'd say. I quite heavily hinted. Just a warning, folks, voting against me just might be dangerous.

 

[MitchRapp]

Are we able to vote now and change our vote later? I have a busy day ahead of me and am not sure how much availability I will have. I do think we need to lynch here and start gathering information.

 

[Robozerim]

Oh wow i thought someone else did and is a unique role.

Hold it? Somebody else claims hunter? I need to know who, so I can properly bleed the bugger with my day action. Nice to have a proper target!

 

[Robozerim]

One has to lie or is a terrible breadcrumber.

Unvote:
Vote: Robozerim

Sheep it. thats the scum I feellike.

So it's Matthieu is it? Hmm...

 

[VoidKitten]

Are we able to vote now and change our vote later? I have a busy day ahead of me and am not sure how much availability I will have. I do think we need to lynch here and start gathering information.

Votes are not locked. They can be changed up to deadline or majority is hit.

 

[Robozerim]

No hinting. I am Blue Dragon alignment, The Hunter. People seem to believe that Matthieu bread crumbed himself as hunter. Well, considering this is supposed to be a unique role, well, I think I'll be pitting my wolf against this other guy before I am fully lynched. Also, if you do lynch me, well, just try to have somebody you're okay with losing the guy doing the hammer.

Naturally, given the whole killing the hammer bit, it's a pretty good claim for scum to make, because it incentivizes people to not lynch you. I guess that's life. Also death, probably my own. And another person's.

 

[Robozerim]

I could not have been recruited the last two nights because I back to back bear companion, which kills those who try to kill me, makes me immune to death, and immune to recruitment. I could theoretically be responsible for either of our deaths at night, but only if they tried to kill me. I haven't been informed of whether or not my bear protected me or killed anybody.

I don't know how certain Satsu is that he survived N1 because he was healed, but if he's not certain, there is absolutely the possibility that the assassin BN tried to kill me, failed because I was immune, and was mauled to death by my bear. It's also possible that listo tried to kill me, but that would mean he lied about his targets and actions in the log book he left behind, but given his neutral status that isn't exactly unlikely.

 

[Matthieu]

Vote: Pardon

I wasn't claiming or hinting at being the hunter.

 

[MitchRapp]

What a mess.

 

[Robozerim]

Satsu surviving because of healing provides an explanation for why no town/neutral were killed. It doesn't explain why the scum killer died.
Blind Ninja attacking me explains both why there was no town/neutral death and why the scum killer died.

 

[Matthieu]

Given how abruptly it seemed to happen, is this an attempt to waste another day phase with no execution?

Nobody should vote to execute Robo, as he is almost certainly telling the truth about his role.

 

[Robozerim]

Vote: Pardon

I wasn't claiming or hinting at being the hunter.

Well, you would have to say that now, wouldn't you? If you weren't trying to claim it, obviously you would say so. If you were trying to hint at it, that's a bad claim to stand by when the real one comes out to say he's got a bleed with your name on it.

 

[Satsu]

Vote: Pardon

I wasn't claiming or hinting at being the hunter.

You obviosly were sorry you have to die now.

Vote: Pardon

Leave him to me.

 

[Robozerim]

I have a proposal. People should make suggestions for who I should bleed today. It'll likely be better than me trying to figure it out purely on my own, as my judgement is perhaps not the best.

 

[Matthieu]

You obviosly were sorry you have to die now.

Vote: Pardon

Leave him to me.

I genuinely wasn't. It's phrasing I use frequently in posts of mine...

 

[Matthieu]

Let me put it this way, Satsu, although I am third party I am willing to work with town to help find and eliminate scum. I cannot be recruited.

 

[Satsu]

Yeah sure i am a working dog we can works it out.

Did you try to kill Listo n1? Just want to check out another claim.

 

[3puppies]

Vote: Pardon

 

[VoidKitten]

The Robo Trial Vote Count:

Pardon - 3 (Matthieu #623, Satsu #628, 3puppies #633)
Execute -

Not Voting: Badger, CWE, FutureHold, LemonDemonGirl, MitchRapp, morrison, MTR, Robozerim, Val the Moofia Boss, Xanjori

It is now the Trial of Robo. The trial will end when a majority of players vote Execute or Pardon or 12 hours pass (12:00am ET on May 31st). With 12 eligible voting players, majority is 7 votes. If a player is pardoned, the day will continue until 8:00pm ET on May 31st. Another trial can be had. If the player is executed, the day will end. If majority is not reached by the end of trial, all non voters will automatically abstain and Execution/Pardon will be decided by a simple majority of voters. Ties will pardon.

 

[morrison]

Vote: pardon

 

[ForgottenHold]

We can’t keep pardoning people.

 

[Satsu]

Its still time for second trail. Hopefully a bloody one.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Vote: Execute

Don't put people on trial if you're not going to lynch them.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Its still time for second trail. Hopefully a bloody one.

Stop stalling. You're just going to put another guy on trial and then end the day with a no-lynch.

 

[MitchRapp]

Sneaking a quick peak at lunch.

Is there any chance he was the hunter, used the Bear night 1, then got recruited night 2 when he used his other action?

 

[ForgottenHold]

Vote: Execute

I agree with Val here

 

[Satsu]

Is there any chance he was the hunter, used the Bear night 1, then got recruited night 2 when he used his other action?

If cult recruited on night 1 he couldnt be recruited on night 2.

And it looks like cult recruited n1 because someone had to make CWE bleed.

 

[Satsu]

They get to recruit on every other night.

 

[Satsu]

And he said he used bear trap twice. He would have to be lying

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote: Execute
Like it or not, someone HAS TO GO or we'll never find Scum

 

[VoidKitten]

The Robo Trial Vote Count:

Pardon - 4 (Matthieu #623, Satsu #628, 3puppies #633, morrison #635)
Execute - 3 - (Val #638, FutureHold #641, LDG #645)

Not Voting: Badger, CWE, MitchRapp, MTR, Xanjori

It is now the Trial of Robo. The trial will end when a majority of players vote Execute or Pardon or 12 hours pass (12:00am ET on May 31st). With 12 eligible voting players, majority is 7 votes. If a player is pardoned, the day will continue until 8:00pm ET on May 31st. Another trial can be had. If the player is executed, the day will end. If majority is not reached by the end of trial, all non voters will automatically abstain and Execution/Pardon will be decided by a simple majority of voters. Ties will pardon.

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote: Execute

I want to see how this plays out, and where the non voters so far put their vote.

 

[VoidKitten]

The Robo Trial Vote Count:

Pardon - 4 (Matthieu #623, Satsu #628, 3puppies #633, morrison #635)
Execute - 4 (Val #638, FutureHold #641, LDG #645, MitchRapp #647)

Not Voting: Badger, CWE, MTR, Xanjori

It is now the Trial of Robo. The trial will end when a majority of players vote Execute or Pardon or 12 hours pass (12:00am ET on May 31st). With 12 eligible voting players, majority is 7 votes. If a player is pardoned, the day will continue until 8:00pm ET on May 31st. Another trial can be had. If the player is executed, the day will end. If majority is not reached by the end of trial, all non voters will automatically abstain and Execution/Pardon will be decided by a simple majority of voters. Ties will pardon.

 

[Satsu]

If Robo is still the hunter last one on his execute train will die. isnt that scary? just sayin

 

[Robozerim]

Sneaking a quick peak at lunch.

Is there any chance he was the hunter, used the Bear night 1, then got recruited night 2 when he used his other action?

I have from the start 3 charges of Bear Companion, I could and did use it two nights in a row. I could be lying, of course.

 

[Robozerim]

I will say it. I targeted CWE for the bleed. I did not see anything in their posts to convince me not to, but I clearly missed other peoples' seemingly obvious hints, so that means very little. It was not a scum bleed that went to them, though perhaps a scum role blocked them.

Anyway, my complete missing of seemingly obvious stuff is part of why I was suggesting we discuss who I bleed today, but that doesn't seem to be going on too much.

 

[Robozerim]

Plus, I believed there was still going to be somebody out there to heal them if it turned out less than ideal a choice. I did not anticipate one of the healers dying at night, even if he was a neutral party.

 

[Robozerim]

Keep in mind, even if you consider that some kind of scum tell, the person who hammers will die if what I said is true. Best to have somebody expendable do it.

 

[Robozerim]

I come forth with the info now because assuming that scum recruited somebody to bleed someone is incorrect and could lead to bad assumptions down the line.

 

[Robozerim]

If Robo is still the hunter last one on his execute train will die. isnt that scary? just sayin

Eh, they're not the ones who are hammering me, so it hardly scares them.

 

[Matthieu]

Yeah sure i am a working dog we can works it out.

Did you try to kill Listo n1? Just want to check out another claim.

I'm the Jester, so I didn't kill anyone.

I targeted Listo with Troll Box, as well as you - which you can obviously confirm, I believe.

I'd rather not be killed for obvious reasons and I am willing to play ball by scum hunting. I'll even avoid using my day action, if you so wish.

 

[Robozerim]

I'm the Jester, so I didn't kill anyone.

I targeted Listo with Troll Box, as well as you - which you can obviously confirm, I believe.

I'd rather not be killed for obvious reasons and I am willing to play ball by scum hunting. I'll even avoid using my day action, if you so wish.

You're a monster for making somebody post in alternating capital and lower case, and even more for making other people read it. You should be executed for that alone. Monster! Evil beast! Satan incarnate!

 

[MitchRapp]

If Robo is still the hunter last one on his execute train will die. isnt that scary? just sayin

For sure.

If there is only one member of the cult because they used their recruit night 1 and it failed and they had to charge up again then we have a little wiggle room, though no one is going to want to be the person who falls on their sword if wrong.

 

[Satsu]

Robo said he caused CWE to bleed.

Scum recruited n1 theory is out of the window

 

[Satsu]

I mean they still could have but no longer a must.

 

[3puppies]

Vote: Execute

I agree with Val here

You seem bloodthirsty, when the claim in front of us is that Robo is the Hunter, which again is something that has not been disputed by anyone else.

@Satsu ,I thought there were either cult or unseen, and because we saw the Assassin flip, that makes this an unseen game. So I am confused by your references to cult.

 

[Robozerim]

You seem bloodthirsty, when the claim in front of us is that Robo is the Hunter, which again is something that has not been disputed by anyone else.

@Satsu ,I thought there were either cult or unseen, and because we saw the Assassin flip, that makes this an unseen game. So I am confused by your references to cult.

I assume he meant cult in the generic sense of a group that recruits people, not in the proper noun sense of Cult here.

 

[Robozerim]

Since the Unseen are also a cult, they just have some different roles.

 

[MitchRapp]

I assume he meant cult in the generic sense of a group that recruits people, not in the proper noun sense of Cult here.

I've been guilty of the same in this game.

 

[Satsu]

Since the Unseen are also a cult, they just have some different roles.

Yeah its the Unseen cult for sure this time.

The Cult cult is not in this game

 

[3puppies]

I'm the Jester, so I didn't kill anyone.

I targeted Listo with Troll Box, as well as you - which you can obviously confirm, I believe.

I'd rather not be killed for obvious reasons and I am willing to play ball by scum hunting. I'll even avoid using my day action, if you so wish.

If you are the jester - which seems to be written as the Fool in the role descriptions, then your wincon is to get yourself executed. But if that happens, we all lose one of our 1x charges.

I find it interesting that you claim this now, when you posted earlier -

• Post #325

I can't remember the exact punishment for taking out a jester in these games but if I'm not mixing up rule-sets I do recall it being something nasty that applied to everybody in the game, hence my concern.

Listo can probably provide the details on that, though.

If this is your role, you would have read your role card thoroughly and known what the punishment to the rest of us would be.

 

[MitchRapp]

What about the Cult of Personality?

 

[Matthieu]

You're a monster for making somebody post in alternating capital and lower case, and even more for making other people read it. You should be executed for that alone. Monster! Evil beast! Satan incarnate!

It was either that or something with gifs, I decided to spare everyone the horror of being forced to communicate through gifs.

More seriously, obviously I want to fulfill my win condition but as I cannot actually active harm anyone with my abilities I would very much appreciate being left alone - I do want to be executed so I can win but I'm willing to play nice so it can be done at a 'convenient' time.

If this is your role, you would have read your role card thoroughly and known what the punishment to the rest of us would be.

Satsu can confirm that I placed a restriction on him this day phase.

 

[Badger]

Vote: Pardon

What it boils down to is Robo gave a believable story that makes him look innocent. Also with CWE bleeding we don’t want to lose another townie potentially.

 

[3puppies]

I don't like the execute votes out there at the present time.

Satsu and I know my own BD role, and we have 5 other claims (CWE as Sheriff, Mathieu as either Fool but may be Scorned, Robo as Hunter, Satsu as Prince, and Forgotten as King).

Badger says he has hinted at a role (though I don't see it), as has Xanjori (by trying to clear Listo), so I tentatively lean town for them.

Mitch seems to be trying to solve so I will lean town for the moment as well

That would leave LDG, morrison, MTR and Val as the best options for Robo to target.

LDG is always a difficult read. morrison's lurking is NAI. MTR is usually more solvy as town than this. I am feeling, though, that Val may be our best bet as potential 3rd party killer.

 

[Robozerim]

What about the Cult of Personality?

Not relevant, but one cult game I was in years ago was a cult vs cult game. It was Cult of Personality vs Blue Oyster Cult. Pretty sure Cult of Personality won.

 

[VoidKitten]

The Robo Trial Vote Count:

Pardon - 5 (Matthieu #623, Satsu #628, 3puppies #633, morrison #635, Badger #669)
Execute - 4 (Val #638, FutureHold #641, LDG #645, MitchRapp #647)

Not Voting: CWE, MTR, Xanjori

It is now the Trial of Robo. The trial will end when a majority of players vote Execute or Pardon or 12 hours pass (12:00am ET on May 31st). With 12 eligible voting players, majority is 7 votes. If a player is pardoned, the day will continue until 8:00pm ET on May 31st. Another trial can be had. If the player is executed, the day will end. If majority is not reached by the end of trial, all non voters will automatically abstain and Execution/Pardon will be decided by a simple majority of voters. Ties will pardon.

 

[VoidKitten]

About 7 hours remain for the trial.

 

[morrison]

I don't like the execute votes out there at the present time.

Satsu and I know my own BD role, and we have 5 other claims (CWE as Sheriff, Mathieu as either Fool but may be Scorned, Robo as Hunter, Satsu as Prince, and Forgotten as King).

Badger says he has hinted at a role (though I don't see it), as has Xanjori (by trying to clear Listo), so I tentatively lean town for them.

Mitch seems to be trying to solve so I will lean town for the moment as well

That would leave LDG, morrison, MTR and Val as the best options for Robo to target.

LDG is always a difficult read. morrison's lurking is NAI. MTR is usually more solvy as town than this. I am feeling, though, that Val may be our best bet as potential 3rd party killer.

there was a reason i pointed out people who can save/delay cwe from death.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Less than an hour left folks.

 

[CWE]

I targeted CWE for the bleed.

 

[Xanjori]

Vote: Pardon

 

[VoidKitten]

The group came together and had a discussion throughout the course of the trial, but ultimately came to the conclusion that they would not execute him for treason. The King nodded and excused Robozerim from stand.

Robozerim has been pardoned.

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It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end when a player is executed, two trials end in pardon, or 48 hours pass (May 31st 8:00pm ET). With 13 players alive, a majority nomination for treason requires 7 votes on a player.

 

[Satsu]

Vote: MTR

I am flexible for some other options.

 

[Satsu]

Vote: MTR

I am flexible for some other options.

 

[VoidKitten]

About 13 hours remaining in Day 3.

 

[Badger]

So nice it had to be said twice Satsu lol.

MTR is definitely an option as has been in and out.

How you feeling about Matthieu now?

 

[Satsu]

Dont lynch him.

Knight can take him out if they have nothing better to do ><

He aint mastermind assassin or SK and cant be recruited. Not worth my time.

 

[Satsu]

Or Robo can explain to him how hunter works.

 

[Badger]

Dont lynch him.

Knight can take him out if they have nothing better to do ><

He aint mastermind assassin or SK and cant be recruited. Not worth my time.

Fair enuffski.

I don’t mind going for the MTR option just now as he has dropped in and out unless anyone’s got anything better.

Vote: MTR

 

[Satsu]

Just to say there are only 13h or so in this day, and we need majority to sart a trial I guess.

And then go for a fair bloody trial after than in all that time.

 

[CWE]

Vote: bing lazy (again)

Meh...

 

[MitchRapp]

Is this typical of MTR to no show for stretches?

 

[CWE]

Sorta is the best answer.

@MTR

 

[Satsu]

He is suspiciously inacvtive. Come on everybody i think thats it. I feel it in my tail.

 

[3puppies]

Vote: MTR

@MTR, come tell us your roll

 

[MitchRapp]

Having a trial can't hurt. Its not like we ever act on them anyway.

Vote: MTR

 

[3puppies]

Having a trial can't hurt. Its not like we ever act on them anyway.

Vote: MTR

Don't dismiss the significant useful information we get from the process.

 

[MitchRapp]

That's what I am saying, it can't hurt because we keep getting info and are not losing anyone because we do not act.

 

[MitchRapp]

The Robo Trial Vote Count:

Pardon - 5 (Matthieu #623, Satsu #628, 3puppies #633, morrison #635, Badger #669)
Execute - 4 (Val #638, FutureHold #641, LDG #645, MitchRapp #647)

Not Voting: CWE, MTR, Xanjori

I know Xanjori came in late and voted but there was little participation and just a pop in and vote and gone. I think there is a scum in the 3 non voters and I don't think its CWE.

 

[3puppies]

I know Xanjori came in late and voted but there was little participation and just a pop in and vote and gone. I think there is a scum in the 3 non voters and I don't think its CWE.

CWE never lies. There's no way that he's anything other than our bleeding Sheriff.

Xanjori came in and shared info that Listo was a good guy. But at that point, Listo had already claimed - well at least strongly hinted - about his role. So it wasn't something super helpful.

MTR may be legitimately tied up with real life stuff, but I'd like to hear from him.

 

[MitchRapp]

All fair assessments. But once I put it at 4-4 there are tough decisions to be made. No one wanted to add to the execute in fear of dying themselves. Also because we believe Robo. Not voting there was quite convenient for those who didn't. Thats why MTR and Xanjori have my radar up. Also Xanjori seems to only pop up at the last moment every time. Like hes been watching and then jumps in. IDK, maybe this whole thing just has my head spinning.

 

[CWE]

For what it's worth, I got a clean reading on Xanjori 2 nights ago. So pending a recruit last night, look elsewhere...

 

[MitchRapp]

 

[ForgottenHold]

Vote: MTR

I know he’s been busy doing things, but yeah this is suspicious behavior for him