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Since the day doesnt end til majority is reached, and MTR seemed to be one of the primary targets d1... I wouldnt put it past scum to hammer.

No, this is not me calling you scum...
I know you’re not but just saying if you’ve been reading along beforehand.

I said I had my Discord turned off earlier and only by chance I turned it back on that I discovered I was in still inthis game. I said who I was and knowing how “filthy” I can be perceived and being questioned about the earlier MTR vote. Why would I knowingly hammer town at the risk of the spotlight yet again being put on me?
 

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You got Claws egg it on perhaps trying to come across as aggressive town, Mitch saying a happy compromise and Matthieu mostly joke posting and a quick vote this phase.
 

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I know you’re not but just saying if you’ve been reading along beforehand.

I said I had my Discord turned off earlier and only by chance I turned it back on that I discovered I was in still inthis game. I said who I was and knowing how “filthy” I can be perceived and being questioned about the earlier MTR vote. Why would I knowingly hammer town at the risk of the spotlight yet again being put on me?
When we played together as scum you kept telling me about how you would fool people by pulling the old reverse card on them acting overly scummy. Hammering feels like that.
 

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When we played together as scum you kept telling me about how you would fool people by pulling the old reverse card on them acting overly scummy. Hammering feels like that.
That wasn’t on D1 and last phase was for all intents and purposes a new D1.

Besides I was hesitant on panto-arguing with you to begin with when recruited then falseclaimed as the Observer in an attempt to look towny.
 

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No.

Jackfruit vanilla townie.

In previous rand, LDG was scum with MTR. I assume that MTR told her to claim cop since he is feeling like shit.
Thanks. Do you perhaps know when ldg was scum did she have a flavor (fruit) in her role? Would be helpful to know. He could have a situation here.
 

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Vote: Badger
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It is your sober period so I’ll forgive you I guess lol.

But yeah scum me would not be naive enough to draw to myself with a hammer like that.
 

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The more I process this the more I like Badger. It helps that CWE is there with his double vote because that is a town power 95% of the time.
 

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Unvote:

I want to get some thoughts on Matt’s lolcatting. I can’t decide if it’s town sarcasm or he’s hiding in plain sight somehow.
 

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I want to get some thoughts on Matt’s lolcatting. I can’t decide if it’s town sarcasm or he’s hiding in plain sight somehow.
Honestly I care less about the lolcatting and more about why he jumped on the Mitch wagon after you and I voted there. Cause we both had reasons and he just... voted. I was hoping to hear some kind of explanation.
 

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Thanks. Do you perhaps know when ldg was scum did she have a flavor (fruit) in her role? Would be helpful to know. He could have a situation here.
I like where your head is at. My concern is that could be a red herring and lead us down a wrong road. I do know. Its why Ive asked what everyone is.
 

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scum me wouldnt do this....

sounds scummy as fuck

How about town me at a 6-2 vote with really no chance of going anywhere hammered an (by illness mind you) inactive player after his first few posts OMGsussing Void when the day phase was stagnating?

It sucks that it didn’t work out but MTR wasn’t looking too towny? There’s other places in that train (minus Dreyski) where a scum could have slipped or outliers that were off the train altogether?
 

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EBWOP 6-3 (3 next closest vote not counting the other trains) Point is it didn’t look like changing.
 

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How about town me at a 6-2 vote with really no chance of going anywhere hammered an (by illness mind you) inactive player after his first few posts OMGsussing Void when the day phase was stagnating?

It sucks that it didn’t work out but MTR wasn’t looking too towny? There’s other places in that train (minus Dreyski) where a scum could have slipped or outliers that were off the train altogether?
Again... that hammer doesnt look bad and wouldnt paint a target on you.

Almost anyone could have hammered at that point.
 

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I’ve seen others meta their own play and turn out to be town.

I had a big thing with Rip in a Videoland game once where town me called him out on a similar statement…he turned out to be the town vig
 

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I’ve seen others meta their own play and turn out to be town.

I had a big thing with Rip in a Videoland game once where town me called him out on a similar statement…he turned out to be the town vig
Some people can meta their own play... others cannot. You fall into the later.
 

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Some people can meta their own play... others cannot. You fall into the later.

Well that’s your opinion but hey-ho. I ain’t going to go round in circles with you as I’d rather be productive.

Where does Matt for example fall into this category? I’m surprised you haven’t commented on his odd play thus far. Plus the point Wind raised
 

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How about town me at a 6-2 vote with really no chance of going anywhere hammered an (by illness mind you) inactive player after his first few posts OMGsussing Void when the day phase was stagnating?

It sucks that it didn’t work out but MTR wasn’t looking too towny? There’s other places in that train (minus Dreyski) where a scum could have slipped or outliers that were off the train altogether?
Speaking of Void, where is he?
 

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Well that’s your opinion but hey-ho. I ain’t going to go round in circles with you as I’d rather be productive.

Where does Matt for example fall into this category? I’m surprised you haven’t commented on his odd play thus far. Plus the point Wind raised
You find this play from Matt odd... I see it as NAI.
 

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I’ve seen him go on tangents fair but not usually this blatantly.
Well, we had a jester in the previous game. Wouldn't surprise me if we have one here, too. Imo that lines up more with "unusual play" than scum.
 

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Well Badger has only been more scary since my last post. Nothing he has done has lead towards solving.

Vote: Badger
 

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You find this play from Matt odd... I see it as NAI.
Feels jestery to me but I almost think that its over the top like hes trying to hint at it so that he doesnt pick up votes. For now its working on me that I am not wanting to vote him at the moment.
 

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I don’t see many others doing better. I’ve been trying to solve Matt and even asked a question about Claws egging on MTR who’s flipped town (he’s been online but lurking. A possible jester in Matt, no sign of Void etc and now you’re flip-flopping.
 

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How am I flip flopping. I had not voted. Then I voted for you.

Void not being around is difficult. Hopefully they arrive soon and can add to the discussion.
 

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Feels jestery to me but I almost think that its over the top like hes trying to hint at it so that he doesnt pick up votes. For now its working on me that I am not wanting to vote him at the moment.
Yeah considering he said he doesn't care if he's voted, which I'm assuming is normally untrue (judging by his reaction to being D1 wagoned last rand), I would not be surprised
 

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How am I flip flopping. I had not voted. Then I voted for you.

Void not being around is difficult. Hopefully they arrive soon and can add to the discussion.
You didn’t vote but still flip-flopped on me. You accused me of possibly playing this scum, then you said you processed this the more you like me and now apparently I’m scary because I’m not solvy enough so you stick your flag on.
 

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I feel less sure that Mitch is scum than I was yesterday, partly because I find myself agreeing on some of his points, but I'm not fully convinced he's town. Would probably give him another day as nobody seems interested in him now, and reevaluate after that.
 

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You didn’t vote but still flip-flopped on me. You accused me of possibly playing this scum, then you said you processed this the more you like me and now apparently I’m scary because I’m not solvy enough so you stick your flag on.
He said he liked the idea of wagoning you, not that he thought you were town. I also misread it at first and then figured he must've missed a word, that's why I asked him for clarification.
 

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I feel less sure that Mitch is scum than I was yesterday, partly because I find myself agreeing on some of his points, but I'm not fully convinced he's town. Would probably give him another day as nobody seems interested in him now, and reevaluate after that.
I take back that last part, Badger is interested in Mitch lol
 

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He said he liked the idea of wagoning you, not that he thought you were town. I also misread it at first and then figured he must've missed a word, that's why I asked him for clarification.
Fair I only saw the original like you.
 

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Off-topic but since I was backreading to look for something, I realize I only made half the joke about cyanide

I'm cherry this rand as I said, but I was apple last rand lmao (I flipped there, it's public info)
 

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Off-topic but since I was backreading to look for something, I realize I only made half the joke about cyanide

I'm cherry this rand as I said, but I was apple last rand lmao (I flipped there, it's public info)
Interesting because I was cherry last rand. I missed half the phase as wasn’t aware I was even back in. So is this a game where it goes on a continuous loop where the roles are re-arranged unless we always yeet?
 

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Interesting because I was cherry last rand. I missed half the phase as wasn’t aware I was even back in. So is this a game where it goes on a continuous loop where the roles are re-arranged unless we always yeet?
That's what I'm wondering, so I intend to push for us to consolidate on a wagon by the end of ~48 hours so that we don't endlessly rerand lol
 

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i am surprised at how quiet it is, maybe people got busy but you'd think they'd at least check in...

i'd propose going after someone quiet if the situation doesn't improve

we also need to avenge dreyski
 

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also weird theory that just struck me, since we're all different flavours of fruit and the game has randomised once already maybe we're stuck in a giant slot machine lol
 

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i got kicked out of a casino once on that note, i kept winning that game where you stick coins in and it falls down into a pile onto one of two metal shelves that push the coins off the side along with the occasional prize...

they claimed i was cheating??? i wasn't, i just watched carefully and deduced the most efficient timing
 

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i am surprised at how quiet it is, maybe people got busy but you'd think they'd at least check in...

i'd propose going after someone quiet if the situation doesn't improve

we also need to avenge dreyski
Oh right, maybe I should be looking at Drey's posts to see if there's any rhyme or reason to the kill
 

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Just going back and looking at the trains like the MTR train for a bit. Now if Matt may be a jester and Foxxi’s not that bastard to do a scummy double voter.

We’ve discussed my hammer so theoretically it could be me, but taking that away then if there’s a scum in that train, that would leave Mitch and Satsu. Mitch could’ve got on towards the middle to look “safe” and not be too late on. Satsu also jumped on quite late. I kinda trust Satsu more though in his play.

Void’s an outlier but he pushed hard against the MTR yeet so currently leaning town and figuring it might just be real life issues.

Wind is striking me as town like last time. Don’t see any difference in play there.

BN since coming in despite us disagreeing on some things, I don’t see anything currently really pinging me so far.

That leaves Val and Claws, outliers and possible lurkers.
 

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also weird theory that just struck me, since we're all different flavours of fruit and the game has randomised once already maybe we're stuck in a giant slot machine lol
Do your slot machines have pecans and tomatoes in them??
 

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i got kicked out of a casino once on that note, i kept winning that game where you stick coins in and it falls down into a pile onto one of two metal shelves that push the coins off the side along with the occasional prize...

they claimed i was cheating??? i wasn't, i just watched carefully and deduced the most efficient timing
When I was studying, I discovered that one of the vending machines on campus would actually dispense double the item if you knew how to manipulate it lol. It would get the item stuck first, and then if you smacked the side of it while it was trying to get unstuck, it would drop the item and then continue to vend a second one. XD it was great for a few months until they fixed it.
 

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Just going back and looking at the trains like the MTR train for a bit. Now if Matt may be a jester and Foxxi’s not that bastard to do a scummy double voter.

We’ve discussed my hammer so theoretically it could be me, but taking that away then if there’s a scum in that train, that would leave Mitch and Satsu. Mitch could’ve got on towards the middle to look “safe” and not be too late on. Satsu also jumped on quite late. I kinda trust Satsu more though in his play.

Void’s an outlier but he pushed hard against the MTR yeet so currently leaning town and figuring it might just be real life issues.

Wind is striking me as town like last time. Don’t see any difference in play there.

BN since coming in despite us disagreeing on some things, I don’t see anything currently really pinging me so far.

That leaves Val and Claws, outliers and possible lurkers.
"outliner" what the fuck is that
 

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Outlier not outliner. Essentially staying off the main train.
 

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Vote: Val

Concern over his voting record, not done much plus feel good about the people on his wagon
 

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On the slot machine topic I am off to Vegas in December. Cannot wait. Though I do not play slots. I am a fan of the dice.
 

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Yes, to clarify when I said I like you I was using it as in "I like him for scum."
Still though, don’t know if you were just misremembering or misrepresenting my scum play when we were a team because I wasn’t really pulling a “reversey” as you say.

We were coming up with claims to look good.
 

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Yes but in the scum chat you went on for days about all the "great moves" you had done over the years.
Honestly there was just shooting the breeze and trying to “bond” and get you familiar with me as we didn’t know each other. It wasn’t meant to be deliberately obnoxious. I can only say sorry if you found it that way.
 

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I just think perhaps you and a couple of others at the very least may be overanalysing my earlier comment a tad but anyway to get back to business we do need to consolidate on a wagon soon.
 

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i got kicked out of a casino once on that note, i kept winning that game where you stick coins in and it falls down into a pile onto one of two metal shelves that push the coins off the side along with the occasional prize...

they claimed i was cheating??? i wasn't, i just watched carefully and deduced the most efficient timing
Coin pushers are easy if you have half a brain
 

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IDK that I have seen a coin pusher at a casino. That said Minnesota casinos are pretty tame. They have slots and table games. No live craps or roulette.
 

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Honestly there was just shooting the breeze and trying to “bond” and get you familiar with me as we didn’t know each other. It wasn’t meant to be deliberately obnoxious. I can only say sorry if you found it that way.
It wasnt you shooting the breeze, it was you trying to tell mitch how to play and you making reference to what youve done in the past.

Talk about misrepresenting things man...
 

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I just think perhaps you and a couple of others at the very least may be overanalysing my earlier comment a tad but anyway to get back to business we do need to consolidate on a wagon soon.
Isnt that we are supposed to do to solve the game... analyze what and how people say things. Its almost like thats part of the game
 

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IDK that I have seen a coin pusher at a casino. That said Minnesota casinos are pretty tame. They have slots and table games. No live craps or roulette.
Slots are a ripoff. Heavily favored for the house.

Skill games are where people have a shot. Card counting isnt illegal as long as you arent using a device to assist with it.
 

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Badger, you keep talking about consolidating votes... they look pretty consolidated to me

3 - Badger: CWE(1109), Mitch(1143)
3 - Val: Satsu(1040), Wind(1116), Badger(1172)
2 - Wind: Val(1059), Matthieu(1108)
1 - Void: Claws(1063)

Not currently voting: BN, Void,
Current as of 1172
 

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I wasn’t the only one to say (Wind did) and I said consolidate on a wagon (ie choose a majority yeet.
 

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Looking at the vote count, id say the wagons are consolidated...2 at 3, 1 at 2 and 1 at 1.

Not sure how I feel about VK being MIA for this day so far. Usually active if able. So tell me its likely a RL issue. However, the last time this happened, the quiet MIA vk... i think he was scum.

Doubt CWE would be so brazen if the DV was scum. Making it known that its him, gives me strong town.

I think badger is dirty... could just be bias... but can see it from gameplay as well.

Matt feels NAI with his actions, could see jester that doesnt care.

Could see a vote if people can convince me, other then low activity.
 

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Slots are a ripoff. Heavily favored for the house.

Skill games are where people have a shot. Card counting isnt illegal as long as you arent using a device to assist with it.
I used to play some Black Jack. I prefer the social aspect of Craps and have a few strategies that I enjoy playing. I like when Craps is wining generally everyone is winning. At Black Jack it sucks when you have a 20 and win and the two guys next to you have a 18 and a bust and the deal flipps 19,. I feel like I cant cheer my $10 win when they are losing $50 and $100 on theirs. At craps my $7 win is as fun for me as their $28 win etc.
 

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Looking at the vote count, id say the wagons are consolidated...2 at 3, 1 at 2 and 1 at 1.

Not sure how I feel about VK being MIA for this day so far. Usually active if able. So tell me its likely a RL issue. However, the last time this happened, the quiet MIA vk... i think he was scum.

Doubt CWE would be so brazen if the DV was scum. Making it known that its him, gives me strong town.

I think badger is dirty... could just be bias... but can see it from gameplay as well.

Matt feels NAI with his actions, could see jester that doesnt care.

Could see a vote if people can convince me, other then low activity.
Is it possible that someone has a role that silence VK for the day?
 

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Is it possible that someone has a role that silence VK for the day?
This feels like a very vanilla game, so I doubt scum have more then a NK.

I know a lot have claimed VT essentially with a few claiming to have something. We likely have 1/2 TPR and the scum kill. 3p could have shifted from jester to survivor as well. bastard mob and all could have shifted the breakdown and roles in game.
 

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Well I just hope that Val’s convenient tipping point vote putting me at 4 gets analysed if I go down and you see me green.
 
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