Mafia 25 - The Town of Warcraft

[Blind Ninja]

Unless we have a good lead/read on the remaining coven, might be a strong idea to just remove mitch. lose 1 town in the night, come back next day 3t-1c

 

[CWE]

Unless we have a good lead/read on the remaining coven, might be a strong idea to just remove mitch. lose 1 town in the night, come back next day 3t-1c

And crus in me so I get my evil vision. I'll use a confirmed townie so we get a 50/50 shot? That's what I was wondering.

 

[MitchRapp]

Same can be said if we vote BN out.

Down to 4 and it's 3v1.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm about to go to bed but I leave you w this.

Let's say I'm wrong and there is a traitor still left. That means there is a traitor, a coven and me. I'm not voting for anyone but you. 3 on 3. But CWE has the double vote so you will have to vote where he votes. And if he is the traitor it's a moot point.

If you vote you out and leave its down to 4 and I can once again assist the town.

Also all of this is assuming BN is not coven or traitor if those are left. If there is a greater than 0% chance he is traitor or Coven this is the move to make.

 

[MitchRapp]

And note there is a greater tha. 0% chance he is against you all.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Same can be said if we vote BN out.

Down to 4 and it's 3v1.

No its not...
I leave -1
you leave -2
your torment -3
coven kills -4

2 left to start the day. Could get lucky with 3 left if coven hits same target as you or kill blocked

 

[Blind Ninja]

And note there is a greater tha. 0% chance he is against you all.

Im 100% for town.

You are 100% for yourself.

And you still fail at numbers regarding your torment, and potential coven kill at night. This Day/Night phase starting with my lynch will result in 3 or 4 people leaving the game.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: Mitch

Money where mouth is. Mitch is in it for himself and a known evil. He has even stated he doesnt care about anything but his wincon.

This will get us to 3t-1c provided the traitor is in one of dead.

 

[CWE]

Vote: Mitch

Money where mouth is. Mitch is in it for himself and a known evil. He has even stated he doesnt care about anything but his wincon.

This will get us to 3t-1c provided the traitor is in one of dead.

Vote: MitchRapp

 

[Blind Ninja]

In case someone hammers...

Dont visit me.

 

[Sirius Black]

I protected CWE as I said I would.

I think we let BN and Dreyski cross.

No one else votes.

Mitch can hammer BN as he wants. Leaves the game. If somebody lied we'll know about it.

I protect CWE again so he can have another shot on the final day with more info and a double vote.

I think that's the play that covers the most bases?

 

[Sirius Black]

Just as I typed this I realized that this is still majority only.

God damn it.

 

[Sirius Black]

I mean we can ensure that CWE can win any 1v1 so as long as we are confident that CWE is town we should still be good yeah?

 

[Sirius Black]

Vote: Blind ninja

I think we can do this.

Would prefer the other wagon to be Dreyski rather than Mitch if we don't go for BN today.

 

[Sirius Black]

I guess traitor would have to be in LDG.

How else would Satsu's N1 action fail?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: Blind ninja

I think we can do this.

Would prefer the other wagon to be Dreyski rather than Mitch if we don't go for BN today.

So you are potentially willing to throw the game by voting me?

 

[Blind Ninja]

I could get on board a Drey vote, since theyve only claimed "town common" and not elaborated on that.

But I think the safer option is remove Mitch. Leaves more numbers going into tomorrow

 

[Sirius Black]

So you are potentially willing to throw the game by voting me?

I think I can walk the razor's edge of helping a neutral win while not throwing!

As I think about it more I'm realizing it's probably just Dreyski as the last coven with traitor already dead.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I think I can walk the razor's edge of helping a neutral win while not throwing!

As I think about it more I'm realizing it's probably just Dreyski as the last coven with traitor already dead.

Im willing to move to Drey.

If we give Mitch the win, he will have an unstoppable attack that will take someone out with him. potential 4 people gone this day/night cycle.

 

[Sirius Black]

I think Mitch has a believable neutral claim. I'm willing to trust it.

I think the decision is between letting Mitch win and voting BN and just ending it by voting Dreyski.

Voting Mitch removes an anti vote if people think BN is town. Is Mitch Coven with Dreyski as traitor possible?

 

[CWE]

Im willing to move to Drey.

If we give Mitch the win, he will have an unstoppable attack that will take someone out with him. potential 4 people gone this day/night cycle.

Attention town

THIS!!! IT IS TOO LATE FOR A NEUTRAL WIN THAT STILL GIVES TOWN A SHOT AT VICTORY WITHOUT LUCK BEING INVOLVED!

 

[Blind Ninja]

I think Mitch has a believable neutral claim. I'm willing to trust it.

I think the decision is between letting Mitch win and voting BN and just ending it by voting Dreyski.

Voting Mitch removes an anti vote if people think BN is town. Is Mitch Coven with Dreyski as traitor possible?

Youre willing to trust his neutral evil claim, but not willing to trust my town claim?

I honestly doubt Mitch is coven and feel he is in fact Executioner with me as a target. He has more or less admitted to this with his vote post on me. But with him getting the win will take remove at least 3 people between the lynch, him leaving the game and his UNSTOPPABLE kill on the way out.

 

[Sirius Black]

I feel like if I keep suggesting to vote BN people might start thinking I'm a traitor myself.

 

[CWE]

I feel like if I keep suggesting to vote BN people might start thinking I'm a traitor myself.

Might start? I already have that thought...

 

[MitchRapp]

@CWE come over and hammer on Blind Ninja and I will finish the job. Give me the chance to finish this.

 

[MitchRapp]

@MTR @Dreyski please vote with me and get me my win. Then you all can sort it out tonight/tomorrow.

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 4 Vote Count:

MitchRapp - 3 (Blind Ninja #1108, CWE #1109)
Blind Ninja - 2 (MitchRapp #1087, Sirius Black #1114)

Not Voting: Dreyski, MTR

It is now Day 3. Day 4 will end on October 19th at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 6 players alive, majority is 4 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, there will be no elimination

 

[MTR]

@MTR @Dreyski please vote with me and get me my win. Then you all can sort it out tonight/tomorrow.

Why would I vote BN when I tried to knight him?

I don't feel like this is the way to go. I am going to hold off on my vote just a bit longer but not going BN.

 

[MitchRapp]

@MTR Voting me doesn't get you any closer to a win. If you want to propose another let me know but honestly you guys can help me hit my win or you have to be perfect the rest of the way.

 

[MitchRapp]

Why would I vote BN when I tried to knight him?

I don't feel like this is the way to go. I am going to hold off on my vote just a bit longer but not going BN.

Voting BN helps us all win.

 

[Sirius Black]

Why would I vote BN when I tried to knight him?

I don't feel like this is the way to go. I am going to hold off on my vote just a bit longer but not going BN.

Do you mean your action on BN failed last night?

 

[CWE]

@CWE come over and hammer on Blind Ninja and I will finish the job. Give me the chance to finish this.

 

[MitchRapp]

It would be fun. I am a man of action. Yall keep sitting on your hands.

 

[CWE]

It would be fun. I am a man of action. Yall keep sitting on your hands.

If rhe option is throw the game or sit on hands...hand sitting is a better option.

 

[Sirius Black]

Vote: Dreyski

Are we in a still living traitor world I'm so confused

 

[Sirius Black]

If I'm traitor with a blocking action I just block the kill N3 I think

What in the actual heck is going on here

 

[Blind Ninja]

If I'm traitor with a blocking action I just block the kill N3 I think

What in the actual heck is going on here

Grumpy died N3... So not sure how you blocked the kill

 

[Sirius Black]

Grumpy died N3... So not sure how you blocked the kill

I mean if I were a traitor with a blocking action

Clearly that doesn't apply to me since I am the Crusader regardless if I'm a traitor or not

 

[Sirius Black]

Saying it early in case there's a hammer and the game doesn't end

I'm gonna sit on CWE again

 

[Sirius Black]

By the way @CWE

Can you tell which people you targeted on each night? Along with retelling the results in a single post for convenience.

 

[Sirius Black]

Also I'm definitely not stating my protections out in the open like that if I was a traitor. I'd be smoking villagers with my actions. Like some people were mad at me for not being on CWE on N1 so it would be very excusable for me to just get a guaranteed kill on him there.

 

[Sirius Black]

I took an path to do no harm after all

 

[Sirius Black]

Oath*

 

[Sirius Black]

Why would you autocorrect oath you evil machine

 

[Sirius Black]

Fmpov the world's are

Just Dreyski
Dreyski BN
Dreyski Mitch

Don't think BN Mitch is a world

 

[Sirius Black]

I mean it's definitely not

So we should yeet Dreyski today as a common denominator for most worlds

 

[MTR]

Do you mean your action on BN failed last night?

Yes

 

[Sirius Black]

Yes

Wow, dude, that's, like, big news

It has to mean both the traitor and Coven are still alive right?

 

[Sirius Black]

It's totally possible LDG was actually a neutral

 

[Sirius Black]

Traitor couldn't block CWE due to me sitting in him

Wanted to kill Satsu so didn't go for a block on me + kill on CWE

Didn't want to risk it on BN

Not much of a reason to block MTR but that was the only legitimate target so they did anyway?

 

[Sirius Black]

So that would mean it's Drey traitor with Mitch as coven yeah?

 

[Sirius Black]

Either MTR is fucking with us or coven are giving us info for no reason

 

[Sirius Black]

Dreyski is the only potential blocker claim

Why was MTR blocked

 

[Sirius Black]

The only unproven claims are

CWE
Drey
Mitch

I'm proven due to nobody CCing

Traitor is either whoever blocked MTR it MTR himself

Coven is in Drey Mitch CWE

 

[Sirius Black]

Or*

 

[Sirius Black]

Effort tell says it's just Dreyski/Mitch

 

[Sirius Black]

I guess MTR didn't put in a whe lot of effort

Call it an "I want to be right" tell instead

 

[Sirius Black]

 

[Dreyski]

Vote:
Blind Ninja

 

[Dreyski]

Might as well get this over with

 

[Dreyski]

I believe my will is better

 

[Dreyski]

CWE is the lyingest liar who ever did lie
He couldn't tell the truth if his lfe depended on it

He could tell me the date and I'd have to check it.

 

[Dreyski]

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 4 Vote Count:

MitchRapp - 3 (Blind Ninja #1108, CWE #1109)
Blind Ninja - 2 (MitchRapp #1087, Dreyski #1159)
Dreyski - 1 (Sirius Black #1135)

Not Voting: MTR

It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end on October 19th at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 6 players alive, majority is 4 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, there will be no elimination

 

[Blind Ninja]

@MitchRapp @Dreyski How would you 2 vote today if I wasnt an option?

 

[Blind Ninja]

CWE is the lyingest liar who ever did lie
He couldn't tell the truth if his lfe depended on it

He could tell me the date and I'd have to check it.

Since you havent actually claimed a role...

What role are you and what did you do each night?

 

[Dreyski]

What do you suspect I am?

 

[Blind Ninja]

What do you suspect I am?

Why not just come out with it?

If i wasnt an option, who would you vote for?

 

[MTR]

Traitor couldn't block CWE due to me sitting in him

Wanted to kill Satsu so didn't go for a block on me + kill on CWE

Didn't want to risk it on BN

Not much of a reason to block MTR but that was the only legitimate target so they did anyway?

I mean blocking me keeps another person from have a vote count as two.

 

[MTR]

So if I hammer Mitch then the play is to go after Dreyski. Correct?

 

[MitchRapp]

Why not just come out with it?

If i wasnt an option, who would you vote for?

Probably vote for Siris if I had my druthers.

 

[Dreyski]

Prolly Sirius because
a) Only unconfirmed town
b) OMGUS

pick your poison.

 

[Blind Ninja]

So if I hammer Mitch then the play is to go after Dreyski. Correct?

I think

 

[Blind Ninja]

Prolly Sirius because
a) Only unconfirmed town
b) OMGUS

pick your poison.

You arent a confirmed townie. Why Should anyone vote Sirius over you? (in that situation)

 

[Blind Ninja]

Probably vote for Siris if I had my druthers.

Why Sirius over Drey?

 

[Dreyski]

So if I hammer Mitch then the play is to go after Dreyski. Correct?

If you hammer Mitch the correct play is for BN to go on alert again

 

[Dreyski]

Not sure who's trolling who at this point

 

[Blind Ninja]

If you hammer Mitch the correct play is for BN to go on alert again

It'd be N4, can I go on alert? Have I used all the charges?

 

[MitchRapp]

Why Sirius over Drey?

Because I would have chosen him as my target if you were gone.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Because I would have chosen him as my target if you were gone.

Look at it from a perspective that isnt the executioner wincon...

Why is Drey or Sirius coven over the other?

 

[MitchRapp]

Look at it from a perspective of the executioner. Why would I care?

I think they are both bad, Drey is coven, Sirius the traitor.

 

[Sirius Black]

Look at it from a perspective of the executioner. Why would I care?

I think they are both bad, Drey is coven, Sirius the traitor.

No you don't lol

 

[Sirius Black]

If the flip is traitor I'm just not protecting anyone.

 

[Sirius Black]

Saying it early in case there's a hammer and the game doesn't end

I'm gonna sit on CWE again

Meant to quote this.

 

[Sirius Black]

If the flip is traitor I'm just not protecting anyone.

Correction - if the flip is traitor I'm protecting BN so please don't go on alert @Blind Ninja and MTR can try to knight him again.

 

[Sirius Black]

CWE is technically unconfirmed so they can kill him if they want.

 

[CWE]

CWE is technically unconfirmed so they can kill him if they want.

Only 1 town is "confirmed" as not the traitor...

Assuming normal TOS2 rules.

 

[CWE]

And so town knows why I want Mitch gone today...
I get an evil vision tonight. I don't want Mitch to show up in said evil vision. Removing then removes that possibility.

 

[Sirius Black]

I mean you aren't confirmed as your role.

 

[CWE]

Lol

 

[MitchRapp]

And so town knows why I want Mitch gone today...
I get an evil vision tonight. I don't want Mitch to show up in said evil vision. Removing then removes that possibility.

If you vote BN then I leave the game immediately and will not show up in your vision. Removing BN removes that possibility.

 

[CWE]

If you vote BN then I leave the game immediately and will not show up in your vision. Removing BN removes that possibility.

I've already done those numbers. We lose then...

 

[MitchRapp]

Not if I use my power kill on who you want.

 

[MitchRapp]

This game has drug on long enough. Apathy has set in. @CWE you vote for BN and I will kill whoever you choose with the power kill.

 

[CWE]

I'm not wearing my town voting pants today.

Sorry/not sorry.

 

[MitchRapp]

Your town voting pants?

 

[CWE]

Exactly.

 

[MitchRapp]

Likely story

 

[CWE]

Very.

 

[Sirius Black]

Vote: Mitch rapp

Protecting BN on a traitor flip otherwise I'm not saying