Mafia 25 - The Town of Warcraft

[Mazer]

Well looks who is not Mr. Forgetty Forgetterson when it comes to pop culture references.

 

[MTR]

 

[GrumpyCat]

I know forgotten that got gotten and poped

 

[GrumpyCat]

You can take a nap your magesty with your knight you cant die to scum like that.

Just vote mazer first. He could be power kill coven. You never know with those

 

[MTR]

Yeah I will drop my vote soon. Figured we are probably about done talking and close to hammering one way or the other.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Dont think we can get ldg to claim.

 

[MitchRapp]

I will claim for @LemonDemonGirl

LDG is traitor

 

[GrumpyCat]

If we end it early there might not be a low post count modkill.

 

[MitchRapp]

The low post modkill is partially why I keep prodding LDG to play instead of name call.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I will claim for @LemonDemonGirl

LDG is traitor

What role did she have? because if it is common town, dreyski lied.

 

[Mazer]

You can take a nap your magesty with your knight you cant die to scum like that.

Just vote mazer first. He could be power kill coven. You never know with those

I'm not coven. And I think you know that.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Who are 2 coven?

 

[Mazer]

Who are 2 coven?

Is that cat for my suspect list?

 

[MitchRapp]

Who are 2 coven?

I think Blind Ninja is one.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Ok you cant be be survivor or jester those cant visit anyone.

hope you are a duputy duplicate and get ldg.

Otherewise you are not the only one that didnt like me targeting you ;p

 

[GrumpyCat]

I think Blind Ninja is one.

It is LDG and mazer and mtr is a traitor. putting it here in case i dont make wills anymore.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Jesus Christ you people are insufferable.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Please dont get youself monkilled i want to see your flip

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Maybe I fucking want to at this point.

 

[MTR]

It is LDG and mazer and mtr is a traitor. putting it here in case i dont make wills anymore.

Not the traitor. I wouldn't have knighted CWE if I was the traitor

 

[Mazer]

Ok you cant be be survivor or jester those cant visit anyone.

hope you are a duputy duplicate and get ldg.

Otherewise you are not the only one that didnt like me targeting you ;p

The strategy makes no sense. But still fuck voidkitten for getting his jokes in. I guess a good laugh in the modchat is more important than game balance.

 

[MTR]

Jesus Christ you people are insufferable.

They are just trying to get you to engage and participate and play the game so we can solve things.

 

[MitchRapp]

Jesus Christ you people are insufferable.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Cry me a river.

 

[GrumpyCat]

 

[Sirius Black]

From my memory I think LDG tends to get mad and omgus people when she is town

Here she is simply mad

So LDG must be scum here based on meta

 

[Sirius Black]

There was too little pizza and too much cake

My day is ruined

 

[Sirius Black]

@LDG could you rank the remaining people in this game from most annoying to least for me

 

[Sirius Black]

 

[Mazer]

There was too little pizza and too much cake

My day is ruined

I've seen this before. Classic ratio mistake. Would not be surprised if this group is also snookered into ordering 25% of the pizzas as Veggie Lovers.

 

[Mazer]

The best move is to go for CWE's list or LDG. There's a lot of effects here, but CWE is the only sure narrative thing. Even in the tag orgy, he played it straight. Because somehow even AI knows his MO. And LDG could shake all this off with a claim. Other than that we're hoping for investigative with no voidfuckery.

The odds of those two things are unlikely to change.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

From my memory I think LDG tends to get mad and omgus people when she is town

Here she is simply mad

So LDG must be scum here based on meta

And have you thought of WHY I'm mad?

 

[MitchRapp]

And have you thought of WHY I'm mad?

Because you are the traitor and you were outed?

 

[Sirius Black]

And have you thought of WHY I'm mad?

I haven't seen anything that seemed out of line to me so I assumed it was something insignificant that most people wouldn't get mad at. Close enough?

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Because you are the traitor and you were outed?

How the fuck am I the Traitor? Use your brain-oh wait.

 

[Mazer]

Any one of you could be the traitor! TALK! WHO ARE YOU WORKING WITH?!

Except for CWE. He said he wasn't.

 

[MitchRapp]

Because at night you have been having a conclave with the coven?

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Are you trying to get me Modkilled?

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Fuck it. I'm not going to post anymore so it happens. I will not give anyone the satisfaction of seeing what Role I am.

 

[Dreyski]

Shouldnt be hard to determine what you are based on the OPs breakdown... fact that you are unsure, means you arent paying attention to whats already been claimed and flipped, or you are just making shit up

I'm town support, which puts me in the 0-2 common town group (now 1-2). Alternatively, maybe I drew random town and got my role, (because random). Anyway, I'm town; somewhat annoyingly, you're town; so by process of elimination that leaves Mitch.
Vote: Mitchrapp

Sirius, I see your post, I'll be with you in a little while.

 

[Mazer]

I think everyone should give their best reason why they are not the traitor. So as not to be a hypocrite, I will start:

Because Voidkitten had already issued at the start, and voidkitten did not fuck me over in that way. It's more of a breakfast burrito role anyway. Sandwiches are the ultimate lunchtime food.

You can go in any order you want, but you can also choose to follow some decorum in a more admirable way:

CWE

MTR

Blind Ninja
Dreyski
GrumpyCat
Sirius Black
MitchRapp
Mitchrapp

 

[Mazer]

Fuck it. I'm not going to post anymore so it happens. I will not give anyone the satisfaction of seeing what Role I am.

Well then.

 

[MitchRapp]

Fuck it. I'm not going to post anymore so it happens. I will not give anyone the satisfaction of seeing what Role I am.

Not an issue anymore. I have provided you into enough posts to not get mod killed. You are welcome.

 

[Mazer]

I think everyone should give their best reason why they are not the traitor. So as not to be a hypocrite, I will start:

Because Voidkitten had already issued at the start, and voidkitten did not fuck me over in that way. It's more of a breakfast burrito role anyway. Sandwiches are the ultimate lunchtime food.

You can go in any order you want, but you can also choose to follow some decorum in a more admirable way:

CWE

MTR

Blind Ninja
Dreyski
GrumpyCat
Sirius Black
Lemon Demon Girl
Mitchrapp

There we go

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 3 Vote Count:

Dreyski - 3 (Blind Ninja #765, CWE #839)
Mazer - 3 (Sirius Black #786, GrumpyCat #864, MitchRapp #866)
MitchRapp - 1 (Dreyski #940)

Not Voting: CWE, LDG, Mazer, MTR

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end on October 16th at 8:00pm ET or when majority is reached. With 9 players alive, majority is 5 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, there will be no elimination

 

[Dreyski]

Myself
BN
CWE
Satsu
MTR

Are 5 claimed town

Mazer
LDG
Mitch

Pretty much guaranteed to not be town in my view

@Dreyski if you're town and we are in a 2 coven world then I suggest making a case on why someone in the first 5 names isn't town

You - claimed Crusader
BN - Veteran
CWE - Psychic
Satsu - claimed Tracker
MTR - Monarch

Well there's been no counterclaims to any of these, and a number of roles are verified, so the only case is that you're lying (you were claiming pirate yesterday, so who knows?) and LDG is the crusader (if only because Mazer and Mitch would nail you to the wall). Or maybe Mazer rolls town and then you have to look at GC, especially as they were blocked N1 and coven weren't seen to do much.

 

[MTR]

Fuck it. I'm not going to post anymore so it happens. I will not give anyone the satisfaction of seeing what Role I am.

Going to be honest. I am totally lost on why you are mad.

 

[MitchRapp]

Going to be honest. I am totally lost on why you are mad.

Because in a game about being suspicious of each other someone is suspicious of LDG.

 

[MitchRapp]

I will be honest. Now I am tempted to vote for LDG just so she is not mod killed next cycle. I want to see the role out of spite now.

 

[Dreyski]

Unvote: Mazer

Feels like this game is basically over. But the traitor needs to be located. Could be Blind Ninja? Maybe we should lynch him and find out?

Is it possible that Matthieu was TT and we only have to find the remaining Coven?

 

[Sirius Black]

@CWE I think there is a very high likelihood that Mitch is the exe in your vision. BN says he was attacked by someone else on on N1. I protected Mitch on N1. Who else could have visited BN on N1 and survived? And what other reason would Mitch have to visit BN? It just makes sense, and it also lines up with his play.

Now what is the case for Dreyski exactly? And why are you voting him over Mazer who is basically outed as Listo's killer?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Well, felt like complete shit and slept for nearly 24hrs... getting up twice to go to the bathroom

Imagine that, LDG blowing up for people trying to get her to talk or thinking she is scummy. NAI for her IMO.

Mitch back to wanting to lynch me... shouldnt happen. Did you visit me N1?



Lets look back at things, I was attack presumably by Future on N1 which I retaliated against. If I was TT, I would have told coven I was going to alert that night. If someone else is responsible for that N1 kill, then we have 2 people that didnt get the hints to stay away from me. Then we have 3pups trying to counterclaim Vet to get me killed. If I was TT, why would coven counter me like that.

And since im below count, maybe I should post additional thoughts in other posts

 

[Blind Ninja]

I'm town support, which puts me in the 0-2 common town group (now 1-2). Alternatively, maybe I drew random town and got my role, (because random). Anyway, I'm town; somewhat annoyingly, you're town; so by process of elimination that leaves Mitch.
Vote: Mitchrapp

Sirius, I see your post, I'll be with you in a little while.

You cannot be the random town. There was 1 town killing and we have 2 town killing roles in the game with deputy and vet. So random town is taken by either Vet or Dep.

Which town support are you and what have you done this game. (this will help me with my decision)

 

[Blind Ninja]

Is it possible that Matthieu was TT and we only have to find the remaining Coven?

Based on names we have seen, there were 4 purple names associated with coven and only 2 have died. With this, I assume we still have 2 coven left.

It is possible we have 1 coven and 1 TT and Matt was coven. This could also potentially lead into why LDG is mad. Her teammates are dead and she is alone?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Are you trying to get me Modkilled?

People were trying to get you involved in the discussion. This is a game about talking and interacting, not sitting back and forgetting you signed up to play. People find you sus. Who cares. Give people something to work with.

 

[CWE]

@CWE I think there is a very high likelihood that Mitch is the exe in your vision. BN says he was attacked by someone else on on N1. I protected Mitch on N1. Who else could have visited BN on N1 and survived? And what other reason would Mitch have to visit BN? It just makes sense, and it also lines up with his play.

Now what is the case for Dreyski exactly? And why are you voting him over Mazer who is basically outed as Listo's killer?

Unvote: Dreyski
Vote: MitchRapp

 

[CWE]

@CWE I think there is a very high likelihood that Mitch is the exe in your vision. BN says he was attacked by someone else on on N1. I protected Mitch on N1. Who else could have visited BN on N1 and survived? And what other reason would Mitch have to visit BN? It just makes sense, and it also lines up with his play.

Now what is the case for Dreyski exactly? And why are you voting him over Mazer who is basically outed as Listo's killer?

Why did you protect Mitch N1? You had 2 TI claims you could have been on. And instead you were on a random non claimer?

 

[Sirius Black]

Why did you protect Mitch N1? You had 2 TI claims you could have been on. And instead you were on a random non claimer?

TI claims are high priority targets so I figured our protectives would have sorted that out and didn't want to kill them trying to protect you. And would you look at that, two townies visited you on N1 and you weren't killed. Had I protected you then, I would have killed a townie.

I had intended to protect you on N2 after Claws death and no additional protective claims but Listo prevented me from doing that.

I thought Mitch was towny on D1. After 3pups flip I really don't think Mitch is coven because 3pups shading of Mitch on D1 seemed like an opportunistic scum trying to shade a townie who is wrongly pushing another townie. That was a major ping on 3pups for me and I think they are unaligned. And I also think Mitch read on me on D1 was genuine. But after D2 I realized that he was probably the executioner and that is why he was uninformed despite not being town.

I think Dreyski is the most likely traitor based on his soft defense of 3pups in previous days, his preference to vote Mitch over Mazer today as well as lack of a solve for the actual traitor.

I think the play is to vote out a coven member which is why I'm voting Mazer who is likely to be coven based on Satsu's information as well as 3pups interactions with him.

 

[CWE]

That's a well thought out response.



...

...

Also known as...

A likely story...

 

[Sirius Black]

Saying this in case there's a hammer

@Blind Ninja if we vote out a coven member today, I will protect you tonight so please don't go on alert. I assume that a single coven member can't block me and kill you on the same night.

If we don't vote out a coven member then I will protect somebody else and you can mindgame whether you want to go in alert tonight or not.

MTR can choose his action accordingly. I'm assuming he won't die to my attack due to having protection from his knight CWE but maybe run this by Void first to make sure.

I will proceed as stated in this post unless there are objections to this plan. If If I change my mind, I will state this as well.

 

[CWE]

Saying this in case there's a hammer

@Blind Ninja if we vote out a coven member today, I will protect you tonight so please don't go on alert. I assume that a single coven member can't block me and kill you on the same night.

If we don't vote out a coven member then I will protect somebody else and you can mindgame whether you want to go in alert tonight or not.

MTR can choose his action accordingly. I'm assuming he won't die to my attack due to having protection from his knight CWE but maybe run this by Void first to make sure.

I will proceed as stated in this post unless there are objections to this plan. If If I change my mind, I will state this as well.

If coven's tt is a tav...

Tav could block you then kill the vet...

(Never announce your protections beforehand)

 

[CWE]

Monarch gets basic defense. He'd die to you.

 

[Sirius Black]

If coven's tt is a tav...

Tav could block you then kill the vet...

(Never announce your protections beforehand)

If that happens, we'll know that Dreyski is the traitor and will lunch him.

Monarch gets basic defense. He'd die to you.

I have basic attack so shouldn't basic defense stop it=

 

[CWE]

If that happens, we'll know that Dreyski is the traitor and will lunch him.


I have basic attack so shouldn't basic defense stop it=

Yeah. I'm a dumb dumb and got vet attack and crus Def crossed.

 

[Sirius Black]

I'm starting to wonder if Dreyski is the one who blocked Satsu on N1.

Make sure that block on Satsu is accounted for once the remaining coven rolea are known.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm starting to wonder if Dreyski is the one who blocked Satsu on N1.

Make sure that block on Satsu is accounted for once the remaining coven rolea are known.

Yes indeed. Who blocked Satsu? Who shot JR? The great mysteries of our time.

 

[Mazer]

TI claims are high priority targets so I figured our protectives would have sorted that out and didn't want to kill them trying to protect you. And would you look at that, two townies visited you on N1 and you weren't killed. Had I protected you then, I would have killed a townie.

I had intended to protect you on N2 after Claws death and no additional protective claims but Listo prevented me from doing that.

I thought Mitch was towny on D1. After 3pups flip I really don't think Mitch is coven because 3pups shading of Mitch on D1 seemed like an opportunistic scum trying to shade a townie who is wrongly pushing another townie. That was a major ping on 3pups for me and I think they are unaligned. And I also think Mitch read on me on D1 was genuine. But after D2 I realized that he was probably the executioner and that is why he was uninformed despite not being town.

I think Dreyski is the most likely traitor based on his soft defense of 3pups in previous days, his preference to vote Mitch over Mazer today as well as lack of a solve for the actual traitor.

I think the play is to vote out a coven member which is why I'm voting Mazer who is likely to be coven based on Satsu's information as well as 3pups interactions with him.

If I go down at some point, and it looks dicey, people should not forget the last part of his rationale.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Yes indeed. Who blocked Satsu?

Would have to be poisoner or tavern keeper. Both still fit the setup. Also as i said my action failed, rb part is my reasoning. Dont know how it would otherwise.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm bored. Can we kill someone already?

 

[GrumpyCat]

Did everyone make a post requirement? i think so.

 

[MTR]

I think we are all good just at a glance.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Are you satisfied with train options mlord? Because only player i could switch to is ldg.

 

[Mazer]

Lot of people seem afraid to make their argument on why they're not coven or the traitor.

 

[Sirius Black]

Forgot about your post

I'm neither coven nor the traitor because I pushed 3pups over yesterday

Also nobody CCed my Crusader claim

Ez

 

[MTR]

I already said why I am not the traitor. If I am the traitor there is no way I knight CWE

 

[Sirius Black]

By the way, if I was traitor I would definitely protect CWE on N1 to try and snipe another town protective.

 

[Mazer]

I already said why I am not the traitor. If I am the traitor there is no way I knight CWE

Why not?

 

[Mazer]

By the way, if I was traitor I would definitely protect CWE on N1 to try and snipe another town protective.

I don't hate this logic.

 

[Sirius Black]

Also I would not have sent Future to catch other visitors on a softed veteran.

I guess there is always a chance I go "if you really feel that way I'm not stopping ya" as scum. I have a tendency to do that. But I at least would've objected to doing that.

If I'm traitor me and Future go on CWE and Satsu on N1.

 

[MTR]

Why not?

He claimed and he doesn't lie.

 

[Mazer]

I see the point on 3pups. And it's very legitimate.

And this may or may not apply directly to you, but is definitely something that should be kept in mind. Scum bussing a teammate early has been pretty common early on has been pretty common here. Trading one death for a clear, particularly if the clear is a potential thread leader, has been a play that has been used effectively.

Do I think it's the most probably thing here? No. But given the set-up, you can't rule out that somebody would do it.

 

[Sirius Black]

So I guess what I'm really saying is that if I was coven then coven would have already won by now haha

 

[Mazer]

He claimed and he doesn't lie.

Which also means you would have him as a safe early and potential kill target before endgame.

 

[Mazer]

Also I would not have sent Future to catch other visitors on a softed veteran.

I guess there is always a chance I go "if you really feel that way I'm not stopping ya" as scum. I have a tendency to do that. But I at least would've objected to doing that.

If I'm traitor me and Future go on CWE and Satsu on N1.

Softed veteran sounds like they were really worn out after that Tag game.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I'm neither coven nor the traitor because I pushed 3pups over yesterday

I also pushed on 3pups and no point for scum to rb me. And there is no counterclaim on my spot on the list. And Mazer didnt deny my result. I have to be tracker or that coven counterpart.

 

[MitchRapp]

Are you satisfied with train options mlord? Because only player i could switch to is ldg.

I have already stated I would lynch @LemonDemonGirl out of spite so we see the role.

 

[Sirius Black]

I see the point on 3pups. And it's very legitimate.

And this may or may not apply directly to you, but is definitely something that should be kept in mind. Scum bussing a teammate early has been pretty common early on has been pretty common here. Trading one death for a clear, particularly if the clear is a potential thread leader, has been a play that has been used effectively.

Do I think it's the most probably thing here? No. But given the set-up, you can't rule out that somebody would do it.

My issue here is that the people who do not have a good track record in this game also don't seem to be contributing much to solving the game and proving their innocence. It all feels like a smokescreen. Like if someone was confidently wrong in a genuine way then I could see myself town reading that. But I'm not getting that vibe here.

I think that so far mafia associations have proven accurate since a big reason why I suspected 3pups was his interactions with Future. So I don't see a reason not to think that the game is actually this easy when it has been easy up until this point.

 

[VoidKitten]

LDG, playing as ???, the ???, has been modkilled.

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on Oct 16th or when majority is reached. With 8 players alive, majority is 5 votes on a single player.

 

[VoidKitten]

About 8 hours remaining in Day 3.

 

[MTR]

So much for that flip

 

[GrumpyCat]

So much for that flip

Dont think she was last coven. Almost sure vk would announce something like that

 

[MTR]

Yeah I don't think she was either

 

[Sirius Black]

Ah come on

 

[MitchRapp]

LDG, playing as ???, the ???, has been modkilled.

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on Oct 16th or when majority is reached. With 8 players alive, majority is 5 votes on a single player.

Seriously can we have a conversation about not letting LDG play anymore? This is asinine and it happens every single game.

 

[MitchRapp]

Dont think she was last coven. Almost sure vk would announce something like that

We know there were 2 coven left. So even if LDG was coven there would still be one left.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Seriously can we have a conversation about not letting LDG play anymore? This is asinine and it happens every single game.

Should be on mods discretion who they allow to play their games.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I dont think there is a need for a site wide ban or something ;p

 

[GrumpyCat]

If a mod wants to let someone play just to modkill them late, let it be their enjoyment ;/

 

[GrumpyCat]

We know there were 2 coven left. So even if LDG was coven there would still be one left.

Sry yeah, got distracted. There were squigs and zovall

 

[Blind Ninja]

So where are we?

CWE seems to trust Mazer, even though he was tracked to a kill?