listo (1) - vk
jarrod (6)- cwe, bn, psych, lletty, mitch, tildey
claws (5)- future, listo, jarrod, mtr, diva
Thats hammer. Please hold all posposting
People on the Claws vote that were also not on robo are on my suspect list.Robo (7)- Val, CWE. GC, jarrod, diva, mitchrapp, bn
Future (2)- claws, mtr
claws (1) - listo
mtr (2)- future, tildey
As the various members of the house journeyed towards Cleveland, one was more enthusiastic than all. Boimler had never been on adventure to Hell.
"I wonder if it's going to be like when Picard confronted Ardra and proved that she wasn't the devil! Maybe Robot Devil was never the devil and Listo is just in a prison of his own belief".
Eventually, everyone got annoyed and told him to sit this one out.
Meanwhile, Listo sat in his very real Hell Prison.
Robo has been eliminated
Robo was Boimler-EN Watcher
Begin Night 2
What do you think Tildey did to CWE and Claws then?Since I don’t believe there was a busdrive, and therefore don’t believe Claws was being targeted by scum team (even IF Claws was town, targeting Claws is such a bad idea anyways if you have a guy claiming he is scum, especially when CWE a much better target than fucking Claws of all people)
Therefore I stand by what I said.
This sounds so scummy. Wanting people to out if their target was switched. Seems like you are fishing for TPRUnless somebody can come out here and say that there was a bus drive or target switch. I’m curious as to why Claws/CWE are the targets of 98% of the actions in the write up
Let himself talk out of it... votes went dead at the end of the day and we barely got the 6 needed for hammerThat isn’t how a bus drive works. Unless people all decided to target CWE/Claws for some reason.
Idk why we can’t follow the info. I have deets, I have cold hard evidence that Claws is not town. And you let him talk himself out of it. I’m not going to let that happen.
it was a bus drive or some other action that switched players targets.Unless somebody can come out here and say that there was a bus drive or target switch. I’m curious as to why Claws/CWE are the targets of 98% of the actions in the write up
Might I remind you that when I voted claws the votes pointed to him. And the Jarrod train literally formed while I was asleep/working.That means Listo and Future...
YesLet himself talk out of it... votes went dead at the end of the day and we barely got the 6 needed for hammer
Not to mention the other target we ended up lynching was scum.
Do you think both leading trains yesterday were scum?
No I’m just confusedVote: future
this feels like them being purposefully obtuse.
Feels scummy to ignore the infoThis sounds so scummy. Wanting people to out if their target was switched. Seems like you are fishing for TPR
I dont think you have legitimate info...Feels scummy to ignore the info
If CWE and Claws WERE bus driven, does that change anything about your info?That isn’t how a bus drive works. Unless people all decided to target CWE/Claws for some reason.
Idk why we can’t follow the info. I have deets, I have cold hard evidence that Claws is not town. And you let him talk himself out of it. I’m not going to let that happen.
This is addressed @everyoneAlso, I'd love to hear thoughts on Void. No one has seemed to really make a read on them other than me.
So was that a second bus drive then? If so then CWE was driven around last night and you are claws were the scum target?Actually, I probably need to look at the writeup deeper because it looks like llettuce did some devilry in the writeup which might explain the weird double targets and the focus on CWE and Claws
But then why Waldo targeted CWE and me confuses the hell out of me
Why would I suddenly try new scum tactics like fake info? I felt like I made myself so obvious I thought I was gonna get modkilled last phaseI dont think you have legitimate info...
All you said last phase was you had deets and claim claws isnt town.Why would I suddenly try new scum tactics like fake info? I felt like I made myself so obvious I thought I was gonna get modkilled last phase
@ForgottenHoldIf CWE and Claws WERE bus driven, does that change anything about your info?
As Marcone rallied the house, LLettuce worked a particular bit of devilry. Regardless of whether hands were busy or idle, the devil's work would be done.
As the magic set in, the night now began.
Wouldn't all four names be shown right near each other? Like most time Mazer does the mass drives? Sure it could be obscured, but it looks like two bus drive esque actions (two names), thought I tend to agree that in itself is strange.Maybe lettuce had a mega bus drive and picked CWE/Claws as one pair and me and someone else as another pair and that's why Waldo targeted me and CWE.
That's the thing, I don't think we saw he actual bus drive action/targets. If you read Tildey and Waldo's actions and their previous actions, they seem to be doing some kind of investigation, not a bus drive. Meanwhile, it literally says lettuce is working "devilry". Mazer is an evolving beast. Town doesn't seem responsible for the bus drive.Wouldn't all four names be shown right near each other? Like most time Mazer does the mass drives? Sure it could be obscured, but it looks like two bus drive esque actions (two names), thought I tend to agree that in itself is strange.
Depends if there is another JOAT, but I tend to agree. I didn't remember what Tildey did but Waldo I agree. Especially with the confusion surrounding it because of assumptions here.That's the thing, I don't think we saw he actual bus drive action/targets. If you read Tildey and Waldo's actions and their previous actions, they seem to be doing some kind of investigation, not a bus drive. Meanwhile, it literally says lettuce is working "devilry". Mazer is an evolving beast. Town doesn't seem responsible for the bus drive.
Which would also make Claws not cleared
You caught all four of us in one post. Damn you Psycho.Lol, what if Mitch/Void/Claws/Blind are all scum trying to convince us that town did the bus drive and therefore Claws is clear and half of them trying to push Future as scum for it?
Maybe not Mitch. Arguably not bn because he DID try to switch to and hammer Claws so could be early distancing gone wrong maaaaybe if Claws is town.listo (1) - vk
jarrod (6)- cwe, bn, psych, lletty, mitch, tildey
claws (5)- future, listo, jarrod, mtr, diva
Thats hammer. Please hold all posting.
Could probably swap out Mitch or Blind for morrisonYou caught all four of us in one post. Damn you Psycho.
Mitch is probably fine if we read the feelings behind the post.Maybe not Mitch. Arguably not bn because he DID try to switch to and hammer Claws so could be early distancing gone wrong maaaaybe if Claws is town.
Lettuce is probably ok off this, and I think Tildey hammering is a great look. Means a little less is Claws is also scum, but I expect a lot of scum would prefer to take out the dude with info against him than the one voted on a whim. Though I could get into WIFOM arguments about that, but I won't worry about it until we eventually see Claws' flip.
What's two separate actions? You're saying the two people Tildey/Waldo targeted are two separate actions?I look at it at two separate actions. Both could be scum, just like I do proxy in my games though mostly thats for kills. From a game design perspective, games with roles like this could have two of the same role alternating, but both acting on the same night, from the same alignment, is interesting.
I have mixed feelings on this for reasonsMitch is probably fine if we read the feelings behind the post.
What feelings do you have on me reading feelings on Mitch :DI have mixed feelings on this for reasons
That is what I am wondering. Normally mass drives are showing all 4 names so you don't know who was driven to who. In this case, you can assume the people driven were driven to each other, though if it is two bus drives, they seemingly hit one another since both targeted CWE. If they did, how does that even resolve (I do conflicting redirections fail) so if Mazer does that then its a good idea that these weren't bus drives. And two bus drives, from town, on the same night? Maybe JOAT?What's two separate actions? You're saying the two people Tildey/Waldo targeted are two separate actions?
No, I have mixed feelings on your theory because I know what you're reading into, but for reasons I think it could be real emotion while still coming from scum that knows the truth.What feelings do you have on me reading feelings on Mitch :D
Expected, tbh. I haven't done shit this game.No, I have mixed feelings on your theory because I know what you're reading into, but for reasons I think it could be real emotion while still coming from scum that knows the truth.
I think you're scum.
Waldo should be a legit action. Should be obvious if you read between the lines of the last couple phases. So Tildey's action would have to be the one that's a fake scum action while something weird happened with Waldo.That is what I am wondering. Normally mass drives are showing all 4 names so you don't know who was driven to who. In this case, you can assume the people driven were driven to each other, though if it is two bus drives, they seemingly hit one another since both targeted CWE. If they did, how does that even resolve (I do conflicting redirections fail) so if Mazer does that then its a good idea that these weren't bus drives. And two bus drives, from town, on the same night? Maybe JOAT?
I just want it to be a scum action that is a mass drive hidden as two separate drives. I kinda like it from a gamerunner perspective.
I think you may have completely missed the part where I know what you're getting at and think this can be true while also being scum.Expected, tbh. I haven't done shit this game.
I just think its clear why Mitch is being adamant and why he was pissed off at the actions. And it explains a target I don't understand. And makes me think there is a bus drive.
I laughed at this post for a couple reasons, but the main one is you assuming I have fully kept up this game.Waldo should be a legit action. Should be obvious if you read between the lines of the last couple phases.
Nope. Pretty sure I'm not missing that at all.I think you may have completely missed the part where I know what you're getting at and think this can be true while also being scum.
Yet you sure are keen what's going on with Mitch...I laughed at this post for a couple reasons, but the main one is you assuming I have fully kept up this game.
Was Mitch being subtle? Did I miss him being subtle at all?Yet you sure are keen what's going on with Mitch...
7/5 or 8/4? Assuming Violina isn't a character ofcMissing the point.
Ho hum
Listo, MTR, you/clawsWho ya got for suspects, Void?
Now that's spicy. We me and Claws, and is that a dichotomy thing?Listo, MTR, you/claws
I don't see you both being scum. I have part future info, for Claws, and part you coming at me. Call it OMGUS, but today feels gross with you twisting my words. I like back and forth but you twisting things I say to seem scummy is irritating.Now that's spicy. We me and Claws, and is that a dichotomy thing?
I'm defending him because he made a comment that makes me give him a character. We have to get this yeet right today or block a kill during the night if its 5. We have a little breathing room if its 4.The closest I've come to twisting your words is implying that you are paying more attention to actions then your posts indicate when I made the Mitch comment, but it genuinely read like you were arguing stuff that I said I already understood and missed my point that I think that could be true anyway if he's scum.
Especially when I'm not even directly pushing him right now. It feels like you're trying to defend him from the lightest bit of suspicion that I'm not even acting on.
If I am reading what I think I'm reading, Mitch is probably cool too.
I really really don't think it was two bus drives, and if you do, I think you should read Day 3 again and look at the N2 writeup and see where Waldo shouldn't be bus driving thereI'm defending him because he made a comment that makes me give him a character. We have to get this yeet right today or block a kill during the night if its 5. We have a little breathing room if its 4.
I wasn't actually arguing anything. I was giving you my thoughts on it. I wasn't like saying things could or could not happen.
The night as a whole is a fucking mess of possibilities. Stuff we can delve into for hours because of the theory behind the game building. Like I said earlier, can both of them even be bus drives? How would TWO bus drives interact if they target the same person? Each mod does it differently but that could definitely say they are not BOTH bus drives if they would normally fail.
No, I understand that. It's why I was leaning proxy action, writeup addition, JOAT. I guess without further confirmation we can't be sure exactly what happened.I really really don't think it was two bus drives, and if you do, I think you should read Day 3 again and look at the N2 writeup and see where Waldo shouldn't be bus driving there
Yes, it could be some night action proxy/tomfoolery, but without disagreement from a certain someone, it should be legit, even if targeting two people doesn't make sense for them.
No, I understand that. It's why I was leaning proxy action, writeup addition, JOAT. I guess without further confirmation we can't be sure exactly what happened.
That is why I am confused you are saying Waldo is a real action and Tildey is fake. Unless you mean overall like Waldo is green and Tildey is fake green?
If Tildey is fake green, we have too many red names then or theres some shenangians around that.
Multiple characters on one player. Just like your game.If Tildey is fake green, we have too many red names then or theres some shenangians around that.
All acting on the same night though?Multiple characters on one player. Just like your game.
Not impossible. Also possible one of the scum actions is a fake action. Mazer loves thoseAll acting on the same night though?
Of course. I am just trying to consider the possibilities here. I just think all of those together don't add up to what the fuck happened last night.Not impossible. Also possible one of the scum actions is a fake action. Mazer loves those
Who do you hate?Yesterday being start of day
You mean other then mtr future lettuce tildey you know the usuals your not lookin too good yourself and listo is where?Who do you hate?
Why Mitch? And why is BN good?You mean other then mtr future lettuce tildey you know the usuals your not lookin too good yourself and listo is where?
Im a lil weary on mitch new player giving benifit of the doubt for town
Bn seems like good shit tho
I am neutral on void at the moment and neutral on most people at the moment. However red did target him last night but we have seen scum target themselves to try to give town cred to people.Also, I'd love to hear thoughts on Void. No one has seemed to really make a read on them other than me.
We have seen more than one JOAT in games so looking back at actions I think that is the case.Depends if there is another JOAT, but I tend to agree. I didn't remember what Tildey did but Waldo I agree. Especially with the confusion surrounding it because of assumptions here.
Do you think its more likely it was two bus drives still but one scum done? Or that it was a mass drive just split into two separate drives to obscure?
For the record, I am absolutely stealing the latter now.
At this point I might as well fake info if people think I got the drive to do it. I just want my info checked out. And I’m sticking to my gunsI'm not sure if scum Future claims fake info. It might be wrong, but I don't think its inherently scummy to want your own info checked out.
With others being confused about actions, I'd probably ponder how legit my results are since there were clearly some shenanigans at play. I'm ruined from when Foxxi gave me the paranoid cop. Single worst role in the game.
So you don't think that there is anyway for there to be two town bus drives if we still have a JOAT or more than one JOAT out there. I think you are tinfoiling too hard here. I know we should watch out for weird stuff but also I worry that if we go out of our way looking for a traitor or fake actions or whatever we will just miss the obvious.Waldo should be a legit action. Should be obvious if you read between the lines of the last couple phases. So Tildey's action would have to be the one that's a fake scum action while something weird happened with Waldo.
Hilariously enough, I already have been tinfoiling that Tildey could actually be scum masquerading as town for what they seemingly did to me N2, but we'll touch on that another time.
Future, I want to trust your infoLet’s say, scum framed Claws and hid that action n2 or n1
And my info is wrong
Why would scum target Claws when they got a tpr to out themself? Why not target me?
What do you think Tildey did to you on N2?Let's just say Tildey did something to me N2 that could make sense from probably one person playing this game, but would have most people familiar with me thinking wtf from a town perspective
Sure, I hope you don’t kill me because I said yes.Future, I want to trust your info
Does the writeup make sense to you based on what you know about what you did last night?
Did you get any weird results?
Please, this is vital, not just for Claws' sake
You were the other train and people may or may not be believing the info that Future has and CWE helped nail a scum so I can see where people are trying to figure you out and trying to protect CWE in the various ways they have available to them.Trying to follow but im busy fixng a trailer today yesterday was really confusing why was everything tossed at me and cwe mega bus is what comes to my mind but odd why the 2 of us were chosen
My last post was in reply to thisSure, I hope you don’t kill me because I said yes.
I got weird results that shocked meYes everything makes sense and you didn't get any weird results?