Christmas Mafia 4 (Mafia 30): The House of MTR 2-God Loves, MTR kills

[Insaner]

Shouldnt you be pushin diva to shoot mtr

No, that would be timeline 2372884792-A. We are currently in a timeline 2372884792-B.

 

[Insaner]

I dunno what numbers you're looking at, but unless MTR had an action that didn't show in the write up I don't see how he could be scum? There were 6 red actions and none of them targeted you.

Unless I'm misunderstanding why you think he's scum... I don't get it.

No, my info suggests that MTR targeted me (unlesss henanigans)

 

[SantaClaws]

You lost me time lord

 

[Blind Ninja]

I am trying to be helpful here, by seeking clarity and providing clarity to make it easier for people to be on the same page.

And you are saying it is your policy to Lynch me for this kind of gameplay?

Not sure I understand why you have this policy or why you think it's in your interest to implement it.

You say you want clarity and seek it.. But are spouting a large amount of proverbial shit to see what sticks to the wall.

"I believe MTR is scum"
"I believe MTR is town"
Vote MTR
"I think MTR is town"
"I think MTR has scum equity with Satsu"

Maybe, just maybe let the thoughts digest ever so slightly and come with 1 cohesive thought, instead of clogging the thread with so much BS

 

[Insaner]

That's not the part where I was seeking clarity.

I was seeking clarity when I voiced my speculation about what I thought Claws role was.

 

[Blind Ninja]

That's not the part where I was seeking clarity.

I was seeking clarity when I voiced my speculation about what I thought Claws role was.

It should be where you seek clarity, since you pile of shit to sift through goes back and forth so much it isnt clear to anyone.

It looks like you are setting yourself up to go "I wasnt 100% sure he was scum" if/when we flip him and he if turn green.

 

[Foxxi]

No, my info suggests that MTR targeted me (unlesss henanigans)

Then the only way he's scum is he is a 7th red and didn't show in the write up? I don't get why you think that's any more likely than him being town that targeted you?

 

[Insaner]

Then the only way he's scum is he is a 7th red and didn't show in the write up? I don't get why you think that's any more likely than him being town that targeted you?

Foxxi... if I wanted you to get it, I would have shared more.

 

[Foxxi]

Actually should prolly go check to see if any other red names have been in other write ups maybe - though it wouldn't be the first time Mazer included a red herring scum name.

 

[Blind Ninja]

@DivaSmurf can you shoot saner for the memes

@DivaSmurf shoot Satsu bro

Wasnt that 1x vig used to kill 3pups on N1? So they likely wont come back with any powers other then their voice/vote.

 

[Insaner]

My role is like

So amazing

In ways that aren't fully comprehensible even to me

 

[Foxxi]

Nope, only other red name is morri, but it's implied through the story that morri became a town character for this game, so it looks like all possible scum acted last night

 

[Insaner]

Nope, only other red name is morri, but it's implied through the story that morri became a town character for this game, so it looks like all possible scum acted last night

Red herrings are possible.

It is equally incomprehensible for MTR to be town as it is for him to be scum based on the information I have.

But I saw something that fits the scum theory. But I had to look for it to notice it.

I'm just waiting for it someone to maybe add something that might clarify the exact mechanics at play. Failing that, I will probably gladiate MTR here just on my info

 

[Insaner]

Unvote: MTR

 

[Insaner]

Vote: Satsu

 

[Foxxi]

Vote: Satsu

Baaaaa

 

[Insaner]

MTR is 100% town.

Final Word - Final Final

 

[Listo95]

MTR is 100% town.

Final Word - Final Final

But are you sure now?

 

[SantaClaws]

Wasnt that 1x vig used to kill 3pups on N1? So they likely wont come back with any powers other then their voice/vote.

There were brought back with a x1 vig

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

No idea what Insaner is doing today.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Vote: Insaner

 

[Foxxi]

I don't think Insaner knows what he's doing tbh - but I doubt it's scummy XD

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I've only skimmed so far and haven't read the write-up, but Insaner's back and forth with himself on MTR reads as legit and not so performative so that's something

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm not really confident on anyone as a target, but Satsu still deserves to be pressured and I think this day really needs a good strong train early on for people to decide and act around

Vote: Satsu

 

[PsychoSoldier]

A strong counter train to match would also be nice but I can't really help right now on a target

 

[Blind Ninja]

• You are strongly encouraged to make more than 5 posts a day and vote. Consideration is made if a day lasts less than 24 hours. If you need a replacement, please let me know

I know the bar is low... But id expect it being D3 that we'd have at least 1 modkill due to inactivity.

1 of 3 people in the 0-1 post range have asked for a sub and gotten it. But the other 2 have made absolutely no effort to play the game they signed up for.

So until they start making some effort, im going their route and doing fuckall.

 

[Foxxi]

I know the bar is low... But id expect it being D3 that we'd have at least 1 modkill due to inactivity.

1 of 3 people in the 0-1 post range have asked for a sub and gotten it. But the other 2 have made absolutely no effort to play the game they signed up for.

So until they start making some effort, im going their route and doing fuckall.

I get the frustration at lack of participation - but the logic here is failing. A handful of people don't care enough to be active, so you're going to also do nothing until they make effort.... and you expect them to...care and suddenly be active? Doesn't strike me as something that will be either helpful or get you what you want.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Ok, so reading the write-up now, it's sounding more and more like Columbo is a cop, which means Mitch is probably clean, unless he's actually a shit detective.

The amount of actions from scum makes me wonder if there was something faked somewhere(especially as that's a calling card of Mazer's), but I'm not sure where to start on that thread.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I've barely skimmed, but it sounded like marcone tried to kill morri? Though no clue why morri would be a scum target, or why he'd not be dead so maybe concrete shoes isn't a kill attempt

It could maybe be a roleblock, but it does context-wise seem more like a kill attempt

Though if I'm right about any faked actions, I could see that one as faked

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Does anybody else feel like there is some fuckery with this night's post? Or is it just me?

I just looked at the red actions again and so many of them read as potentially fake to me. Like Danhausen's action on Claws with Claws saying nothing happened is really getting me

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Can any1 tell me 2
What happened with mtr

My guess is he was given a gift from SantaDiva

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I know the bar is low... But id expect it being D3 that we'd have at least 1 modkill due to inactivity.

1 of 3 people in the 0-1 post range have asked for a sub and gotten it. But the other 2 have made absolutely no effort to play the game they signed up for.

So until they start making some effort, im going their route and doing fuckall.

2 people out of 16 left. Doesn't really seem worth taking this stance over.

If you want to petition to vote them out, that's another thing

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I might try and ISO some people to see if I can get anything. All I know is that Insaner, Claws, and Mitch are probably my main trust pile right now.

 

[MTR]

Okay. Just getting a chance to check things out. Let me look at things and start responding because I know I have been tagged a few times

 

[MTR]

Insaner was very popular it seems during the night phase.

Interesting despite the red actions no kill last night.

Glad to see Diva back for this day phase.

I will try to look at write up more closely here in a bit. Want to get caught up first.

 

[MTR]

@MTR what happened to you

No idea. I didn't get anything from the game runner so no clue what that action was on me off the top of my head

 

[MTR]

Well in case I get shot before I can out

I was informed that somebody used a killing action on me

And I'm pretty sure this person is MTR

I will admit I targeted you but I was one of the green people that targeted you. I didn't try to kill you.

 

[MTR]

Can any1 tell me 2
What happened with mtr

Still reading through responses but why so worried about what happened to me?

 

[MTR]

Vote: MTR

The numbers don't lie.

Okay still reading through things but you are fucking hurting my head on this flip flopping on me

 

[MTR]

MTR is 100% town.

Final Word - Final Final

For real this time? Because yes I am town. :)

 

[Insaner]

I will admit I targeted you but I was one of the green people that targeted you. I didn't try to kill you.

Yeah, that seems to be the easiest explanation.

 

[Foxxi]

I'd suggest a counter train, but with this kind of apathy it'd prolly do more harm than good =\

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Honestly, valid

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@Listo95 Grace us with your insight

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@MitchRapp Who's a shady fuck?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@Dreyski Wheres your head at? You were pretty talkative last phase but less so now.

 

[Dreyski]

I put out a couple of conversation points earlier but no-one seems interested in engaging, we haven't had a vote count recently so I can't test my Lletty doublevote theory.

It's almost like half of today's posts have been Insaner flip-flopping on MTR,
BN taking his ball and going home is pretty much NAI as that's his game nowadays, join up and moan about inactives. I imagine he was a pretty good game solver in his heyday. Of course, as it stands there's just not enough info lying around for anyone to make a stand.

 

[Dreyski]

Whither @CWE ?

 

[Dreyski]

Oh, he's dead. NVM

 

[Listo95]

@Listo95 Grace us with your insight

Listo still does not like Void

 

[Dreyski]

1 Apocaclaws - Town lean
2 morrison - ?
3 MitchRapp - town (subject to 'one more thing')
4 Matthieu - need to ISO
5 Val the Moofia Boss - NAI
6 Psycho666Soldier - Town lean
7 MTR - Town lean
8 Satsu -iffy
9 LemonDemonGirl - NAI
10 VoidKitten - Iffy
11 Listo95 -need to to ISO
12 Blind Ninja - NAI
13 lettuce - ?
14 Insaner - Town lean
15 Nightingale - Town lean

 

[Dreyski]

Something about his board makes my spelling and syntax all screwy

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Listo still does not like Void

Anyone else?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@Matthieu how are you feeling? Hopefully your symptoms haven't worsened

 

[Dreyski]

I've had a chance to ISO the remainder:
Matthieu - aside from an extended piece with 3pups early doors, has only been voting low participants. (Diva/Tildey/Morrison). Neutral/slightly iffy

Listo - aside from an extended piece with BN about Christmas working/participation, not much else of note. Neutral/slightly iffy

 

[PsychoSoldier]

1 Apocaclaws - Town lean
2 morrison - ?
3 MitchRapp - town (subject to 'one more thing')
4 Matthieu - need to ISO
5 Val the Moofia Boss - NAI
6 Psycho666Soldier - Town lean
7 MTR - Town lean
8 Satsu -iffy
9 LemonDemonGirl - NAI
10 VoidKitten - Iffy
11 Listo95 -need to to ISO
12 Blind Ninja - NAI
13 lettuce - ?
14 Insaner - Town lean
15 Nightingale - Town lean

Talk to me about Val. I think he's still probably just town, but something about the energy of his posts this phase is making me doubt.

I'm also curious about your town lean on MTR and your NAI vibe on Blind

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Whither @CWE ?

Oh, he's dead. NVM

This might have just spewed Dreyski as town

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Dreyski, how do you feel about my theory that most of the red actions are fake? Or even maybe most/all of the town actions?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@llettuce come play, tell us your feelings

 

[Dreyski]

Talk to me about Val. I think he's still probably just town, but something about the energy of his posts this phase is making me doubt.

I'm also curious about your town lean on MTR and your NAI vibe on Blind

Val gives so little, so it's noticable when he comes out with something of substance. His post urging to vote you caught my eye enough to follow it, until he tried to walk it.
I've a sneaking suspicion he's responsible for the Future daykill, he has previous, doesn't he?

Town lean on MTR is mainly on Insaner finally making up his mind, and NAI on BN with this being his playstyle no matter what alignment he is. He rands scum so often though, so law of averages...

 

[Matthieu]

@Matthieu how are you feeling? Hopefully your symptoms haven't worsened

I'm mostly fully recovered now. Still a bit of a lingering cough but the fever and headaches are gone.

Unfortunate that it happened right before and during Christmas but I was at least able to enjoy some nice food.

Matthieu - aside from an extended piece with 3pups early doors, has only been voting low participants. (Diva/Tildey/Morrison). Neutral/slightly iffy

I vowed to take an aggressive stance against lurkers after the game before last resulted in scum winning in no small part due to lurkers being given a free pass.

Admittedly I haven't been quite as aggressive as I would have liked due to feeling under the weather, but I am fairly certain that in a game with twenty participants at least one of the quieter players is likely to be dirty.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Vote: Morrison

Vote: saner

Policy lynch idc if hes town or scum

just trying to work out what Lletty did to me, whether it was Hide, Watch/Track or some kind of role modifier. I have received no info to suggest that, so just as an experiment...
Vote: Satsu

Vote: Satsu

Vote: Satsu

Baaaaa

Vote: Insaner

I'm not really confident on anyone as a target, but Satsu still deserves to be pressured and I think this day really needs a good strong train early on for people to decide and act around

Vote: Satsu

4 - Satsu (Dreyski, Insaner, Foxxi, Psycho)
2 - Insaner (Claws, Val)
1 - Morrison (Matthieu)

Should be right (Unless Dreyski has a doublevote)

And it reminded me it was specifically Val's vote on Insaner that seemed fake.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm mostly fully recovered now. Still a bit of a lingering cough but the fever and headaches are gone.

Unfortunate that it happened right before and during Christmas but I was at least able to enjoy some nice food.


I vowed to take an aggressive stance against lurkers after the game before last resulted in scum winning in no small part due to lurkers being given a free pass.

Admittedly I haven't been quite as aggressive as I would have liked due to feeling under the weather, but I am fairly certain that in a game with twenty participants at least one of the quieter players is likely to be dirty.

I honestly feel like MOST of the active people this phase are town. I'm betting majority of the scum are within those that haven't posted much this phase or at all. But even if talking about the all-game lurkers, odds are at least one of them are scum(which would technically include Foxxi's slot)

I'm kinda torn on Foxxi because she's been one of the only forces that have been pushing the game forward this phase, but it also is at a level currently that I think she could easily fake as scum

 

[PsychoSoldier]

@Matthieu How do you feel about Val? I feel like you're usually in favor of defending him early and similarly feel you have a more reliable word when it comes to getting iffy vibes from him.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Apocaclaws
Dreyski
Insaner

MitchRapp
Matthieu
MTR


Val the Moofia Boss
LemonDemonGirl
VoidKitten
Listo95
Blind Ninja
Nightingale


llettuce
morrison
Satsu


I think this is kind of where my head is at. Top two blocks are my townreads/leans.

The bottom block are the people I have no real reasons to defend.

The middle pile is the big ball of blah I don't know what to do with, but is likely to have a couple scum in it. Most of them I've vibed as town or found a post or something that read as town to me, but really doesn't have anything going for them to just call them town cleanly.

I also don't think my towns are clean either. I feel pretty strongly about Insaner and Dreyski, and Claws is close, but the rest could easily be someone I'm giving too much of a pass for either being active or having a WIFOM-y defense(like Mitch being a hider and/or being investigated by Columbo). But it feels the least poisoned out of all my blocks.

 

[Dreyski]

Dreyski, how do you feel about my theory that most of the red actions are fake? Or even maybe most/all of the town actions?

Mazer using tactics out of Jarrod's playbook? I could definitely see scum pulling some misdirection (Danhausen springs to mind) and the flavour actions not targetting anyone I'm treating purely as flavour.
Fake town actions though? I know our mod likes to discourage spreadsheeting but the information I have been given appears to be genuine. For sure there are some actions not being written up though.

 

[Dreyski]

I vowed to take an aggressive stance against lurkers after the game before last resulted in scum winning in no small part due to lurkers being given a free pass.

Admittedly I haven't been quite as aggressive as I would have liked due to feeling under the weather, but I am fairly certain that in a game with twenty participants at least one of the quieter players is likely to be dirty.

Would you join a train that had traction?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Mazer using tactics out of Jarrod's playbook? I could definitely see scum pulling some misdirection (Danhausen springs to mind) and the flavour actions not targetting anyone I'm treating purely as flavour.
Fake town actions though? I know our mod likes to discourage spreadsheeting but the information I have been given appears to be genuine. For sure there are some actions not being written up though.

That's kind of all I needed to hear. I think there's enough evidence that real actions are happening, especially with town. But I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought the Danhausen action seemed off.

I kind of wonder if scum either attempted to kill Insaner and the action was masked as a fake action on Morrison, or if we have a delayed death coming or something.

I guess it's also not impossible that one of the town actions was a roleblock that stopped scum from pulling off their kill

 

[MitchRapp]

I have been thinking Val looked shady. Others seem to have trust issues there as well.

Vote: Val

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Definitely not against that as a countertrain at this point

 

[MitchRapp]

 

[Listo95]

Anyone else?

Satsu is still meh to me. I like Insaner/Claws but that’s about it. Not being able to get a good vote analysis without an actual lynch going off yet.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Satsu is still meh to me. I like Insaner/Claws but that’s about it. Not being able to get a good vote analysis without an actual lynch going off yet.

How do you feel about Val?

 

[Listo95]

How do you feel about Val?

Val is a player… that’s about it

 

[Satsu]

1 Apocaclaws - Town lean
2 morrison - ?
3 MitchRapp - town (subject to 'one more thing')
4 Matthieu - need to ISO
5 Val the Moofia Boss - NAI
6 Psycho666Soldier - Town lean
7 MTR - Town lean
8 Satsu -iffy
9 LemonDemonGirl - NAI
10 VoidKitten - Iffy
11 Listo95 -need to to ISO
12 Blind Ninja - NAI
13 lettuce - ?
14 Insaner - Town lean
15 Nightingale - Town lean

Checks out mostly. I have you and Insaner as town based on gameplay and Psych and Mitch because i think i have their chars right.
MTR seems good by me and Insaner is smart and pays attention so whatever he says.
Not sure on townlean on claws and foxxi. foxxi just got here and claws can play scum like this but more on town side of claws.

 

[Satsu]

hi Diva any info from the other side? Did CWE tell you his char/role?

 

[Satsu]

Definitely not against that as a countertrain at this point

I got a theory. in previous games the mtr house players were never all on same team. So this time Diva FH and MTR are town so theres got to be scum in Lettuce , Tildey now Foxxi no shit.

Foxxis new so i would give her a day to shine.

Vote: Lettuce

Better than me. I am Town and at least have time to post/vote. Shes dead weight and Mazers not modkilling.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

it was specifically Val's vote on Insaner that seemed fake.

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

What is that supposed to mean?

As in it felt like some kind of weird piling on to the attention he brought on himself rather than you actually thinking Insaner was acting weird in a way worthy of voting.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I got a theory. in previous games the mtr house players were never all on same team. So this time Diva FH and MTR are town so theres got to be scum in Lettuce , Tildey now Foxxi no shit.

Foxxis new so i would give her a day to shine.

Vote: Lettuce

Better than me. I am Town and at least have time to post/vote. Shes dead weight and Mazers not modkilling.

I could be tempted, but she's not my priority yet. Nor am I banking on MTR being town yet.

How do you feel about Val?

 

[Satsu]

Didnt see a single town val dumbtell yet so not great. Tend to him him in time will tell zome. Not my top priority

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Didnt see a single town val dumbtell yet so not great. Tend to him him in time will tell zome. Not my top priority

You find llettuce more likely than Val, I take it?

 

[Satsu]

Vals not house. that little microcosmos you know ;>

If it transfers to "likely". not as i think val is outtowned by someone with 1 post ;p

 

[Blind Ninja]

Apocaclaws
Dreyski
Insaner

MitchRapp
Matthieu
MTR


Val the Moofia Boss
LemonDemonGirl
VoidKitten
Listo95
Blind Ninja
Nightingale


llettuce
morrison
Satsu


I think this is kind of where my head is at. Top two blocks are my townreads/leans.

The bottom block are the people I have no real reasons to defend.

The middle pile is the big ball of blah I don't know what to do with, but is likely to have a couple scum in it. Most of them I've vibed as town or found a post or something that read as town to me, but really doesn't have anything going for them to just call them town cleanly.

I also don't think my towns are clean either. I feel pretty strongly about Insaner and Dreyski, and Claws is close, but the rest could easily be someone I'm giving too much of a pass for either being active or having a WIFOM-y defense(like Mitch being a hider and/or being investigated by Columbo). But it feels the least poisoned out of all my blocks.

I can see most of this.

I would, however, move Insaner and mitch both down 1 grouping.
-Insaner for his ramblings that were a challenge to follow. He could share his info in thread and get other peoples interpretation on it, but he hasnt done so. Either way, that back on forth on MTR seems more from a town side, but not enough for me to toss in the more lock town grouping.
-Mitch for his unwillingness to add to the game. He is more or less letting us run with a theory. I understand he cant claim, but not adding value to the game makes me feel like he is more sitting in scum chat no doing shit then the not knowing how to play his role side of the game.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Where does Mazer sit on his modkilling of inactives?

He did post the 5 posts a day, adjusted for days <24hrs... but we have morrison with no game activity and llettuce with 1 post on day 1.

@Satsu Why llettuce over Morrison? Sinec you seem to be going after LHF

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I can see most of this.

I would, however, move Insaner and mitch both down 1 grouping.
-Insaner for his ramblings that were a challenge to follow. He could share his info in thread and get other peoples interpretation on it, but he hasnt done so. Either way, that back on forth on MTR seems more from a town side, but not enough for me to toss in the more lock town grouping.
-Mitch for his unwillingness to add to the game. He is more or less letting us run with a theory. I understand he cant claim, but not adding value to the game makes me feel like he is more sitting in scum chat no doing shit then the not knowing how to play his role side of the game.

This is fair, though for Mitch I don't think it's impossible he has a role be think is valuable enough to lay more low while also probably being a bit busy for the holidays.

I also think Insaner is maybe just being careful with what exactly he can share since he's not as used to the style as most of us.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Where does Mazer sit on his modkilling of inactives?

He did post the 5 posts a day, adjusted for days <24hrs... but we have morrison with no game activity and llettuce with 1 post on day 1.

@Satsu Why llettuce over Morrison? Sinec you seem to be going after LHF

I don't really think discussing who Mazer would modkill is the most productive route. If you want to push for voting an inactive, sure. I don't think he'd hesitate to modkill them if they were scum if that's what you mean.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

My only hesitance on just killing the lurkers is so far we haven't had the best of luck killing any scum while town(and apparently 3p?) have been dropping pretty strongly. But also if we WERE to kill a lurker, it would be better to do it today or next phase before we're against the wire

 

[Blind Ninja]

I don't really think discussing who Mazer would modkill is the most productive route. If you want to push for voting an inactive, sure. I don't think he'd hesitate to modkill them if they were scum if that's what you mean.

Its more along the lines of following the rules. Said if you crumbed, hinted or outright said role he would modkill you faster then blah... but the posts rule (activity) he seems fine to let linger. Seems inconsistent.

I also dont understand why people sign up, and active avoid playing. It just fucks the entire group into solving a dead slot or letting them live for doing nothing. Doesnt bring anything of value to the game. Hell, discussing them distracts from solving the rest of the game as well.

And dont even get me started if any of them are scum, but active in the scum thread and actively avoiding the game thread. Thats an even bigger issue.

 

[Blind Ninja]

My only hesitance on just killing the lurkers is so far we haven't had the best of luck killing any scum while town(and apparently 3p?) have been dropping pretty strongly. But also if we WERE to kill a lurker, it would be better to do it today or next phase before we're against the wire

I can see giving people a d1... but by d2 if we dont have something concrete or even somewhat reliable to go on, we should be removing dead weight from the game.

 

[Listo95]

I got a theory. in previous games the mtr house players were never all on same team. So this time Diva FH and MTR are town so theres got to be scum in Lettuce , Tildey now Foxxi no shit.

Foxxis new so i would give her a day to shine.

Vote: Lettuce

Better than me. I am Town and at least have time to post/vote. Shes dead weight and Mazers not modkilling.

This is kind of a reason I’m sus of void. Pretty much every one of these me and him have been on opposing teams and I know I’m town.

 

[Satsu]

@Satsu Why llettuce over Morrison? Sinec you seem to be going after LHF

Not part of the house again. Doesnt fit the theory. i could do Morrison, someone has to in the end I guess.

 

[Foxxi]

I kinda think Val's vote on insaner is #justvalthings - it hardly has scum agenda considering I don't think insaner is even remotely likely to be chopped today. I suppose if satsu is town it could be just a whatever vote to keep his hands clean - but eh

 

[Satsu]

This is kind of a reason I’m sus of void. Pretty much every one of these me and him have been on opposing teams and I know I’m town.

What if VK is jennifer, it works too ;p

 

[Satsu]

I kinda think Val's vote on insaner is #justvalthings - it hardly has scum agenda considering I don't think insaner is even remotely likely to be chopped today. I suppose if satsu is town it could be just a whatever vote to keep his hands clean - but eh

Even if val is mafia then insaner is still town. Scum val doesnt vote scumbuddies no?

 

[Foxxi]

If we were to have a counter wagon I'd be inclined to say it should be lettuce or morri. I subbed into a town slot, which makes me kinda sus of the other inactive slots... there's generally scum in them somewhere. Problem is figuring out which are just slacking town... because those always exist too >.>

 

[Foxxi]

Even if val is mafia then insaner is still town. Scum val doesnt vote scumbuddies no?

Not sure what your point is here? I'm operating under the idea insaner is town regardless. His alignment isn't what I am questioning

 

[Satsu]

just trying to lock him as town. Hes almost there, but yeah dont think I need to flip val for that.

 

[Satsu]

If we were to have a counter wagon I'd be inclined to say it should be lettuce or morri. I subbed into a town slot, which makes me kinda sus of the other inactive slots... there's generally scum in them somewhere. Problem is figuring out which are just slacking town... because those always exist too >.>

There are 3 of my town reads on me. if match checks theres no need for counterwagon just watch mine, dont think its to late yet but seriously?

 

[DivaSmurf]