Mafia 21- American Assassin

[Claws]

What you guys feelimg

 

[GrumpyCat]

No real harm done since scum blocked and also killed him, but wtf lol, was I the only one who picked up that he was the cop?

I thought Mazer was a cop. Got his questioning of jarrod as gf and response to CWE that it looked like we are yeeing cop as hints.

VK copped you and you 2 talked some, I suppose he transfered some sublimal meggases to you.

 

[CWE]

What you guys feelimg

 

[GrumpyCat]

I admire your dedication to posting with emojis lol

I ran in through deepfake AI from the future and it says: I am yellow - i dont know whats going on - i try to get red out - but its like head against a wall - you suck - help me.

 

[GrumpyCat]

What you guys feelimg

I am thinking if Anna is a survivor or a jester. I imagined Robo as a jester hard lurking and going mad why he isnt yeeted yet ;>

I played scum games with Robo and he would generally come and post for the team, even if hes busy often.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Otherwise MTR/FH are my bet for red, yes. From that angle it would make sense why 3pups was switched and Morrison wasnt

 

[Claws]

Prehaps prehaps if we think robo is a survivor its not the end of the world for us to leave him up if hes magically donatella tho its gunna be trouble

 

[Claws]

Goin off vks sheet can any1 update it i lack the skills to do so at work

 

[CWE]

I ran in through deepfake AI from the future and it says: I am yellow - i dont know whats going on - i try to get red out - but its like head against a wall - you suck - help me.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Yes you hammered red, coldnt have done that without you.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I did a spreadsheet it was fun, but then realized there is an updated verion later :>

 

[CWE]

Vote: CWE

Vote: CWE

Vote: CWE

Non-alternating kills with a dead doctor is rough, but it also means that two kills were blocked over the past two nights. The missing scum kill likely came from BN, and then it's a matter of the missing neut kill...

Anyhoo, time to place a vote.

Vote: CWE

 

[FutureHold]

These comments are why

 

[GrumpyCat]

Do you try to figure out what that is or you just dont like the fact ?

 

[CWE]

These comments are why

Vote: ForgottenHold

 

[GrumpyCat]

Vote: FH

Since you are around please tell me why MTR or Matthieu or Claws are more likely scum then you. No need to rush there time.

 

[CWE]

 

[GrumpyCat]

What you guys feelimg

My feeling is

-red FH/MTR
-Anna CWE/Robo
-Donatella Claws/Matthieu
rest is town.

I understand you might not entirely agree to this but is just d3;3

 

[GrumpyCat]

wait no its d4 lol

 

[GrumpyCat]

On day 4 this has like 80% accuracy go for it.

 

[WindwardAway]

Depends how mod does cop checks.
Is it town-not town. or mafia-not mafia. But either way i think it is safe to assume you and Jarrod cant be red.

True, yeah, I was also wondering how the neuts are accounted for

 

[WindwardAway]

Welp im thinkin mtr/future unless you think they are the missed rbs?

I think Future is scum based on his handling of BN yesterday
My opinion might change if CWE is scum, but I'm guessing he's Donatella

 

[WindwardAway]

I thought Mazer was a cop. Got his questioning of jarrod as gf and response to CWE that it looked like we are yeeing cop as hints.

VK copped you and you 2 talked some, I suppose he transfered some sublimal meggases to you.

Actually I got zero hint he'd copped me, I did think he mightve hinted at copping Jarrod, and that was the only possible role soft I could read from him.

 

[WindwardAway]

I ran in through deepfake AI from the future and it says: I am yellow - i dont know whats going on - i try to get red out - but its like head against a wall - you suck - help me.

LOL

 

[WindwardAway]

I am thinking if Anna is a survivor or a jester. I imagined Robo as a jester hard lurking and going mad why he isnt yeeted yet ;>

I played scum games with Robo and he would generally come and post for the team, even if hes busy often.

I feel like Robo is definitely another slot that could likely be submitting actions even while lurking. That being said, though, I think some people are just randomly forgetting to submit because there's no real pattern to when certain names disappear off the writeup.

 

[WindwardAway]

Prehaps prehaps if we think robo is a survivor its not the end of the world for us to leave him up if hes magically donatella tho its gunna be trouble

I think if any of the lurkers is Donatella it will become blatantly obvious

 

[WindwardAway]

Goin off vks sheet can any1 update it i lack the skills to do so at work

Yep, I'm gonna do it shortly (or maybe after dinner, but it's on my to-do list)

 

[WindwardAway]

I did a spreadsheet it was fun, but then realized there is an updated verion later :>

Ah lol
Maybe I don't need to update it then, idk

 

[WindwardAway]

You're not making it easy to read you
Also, Matt coming in hot and voting you and leaving sure was convincing

 

[Matthieu]

My feeling is

-Donatella Claws/Matthieu

Nope.

 

[WindwardAway]

People went from sleeping to hopping on a wagon? Why, yes, that's how we flipped scum!

 

[WindwardAway]

My feeling is

-red FH/MTR
-Anna CWE/Robo
-Donatella Claws/Matthieu
rest is town.

I understand you might not entirely agree to this but is just d3;3

I guess if we're gonna discuss the neuts I can tell you I'm like fairly sure Claws is Anna, CWE is Donatella, and Future is one of the remaining scum.

 

[Matthieu]

You're not making it easy to read you
Also, Matt coming in hot and voting you and leaving sure was convincing

Claiming is against the rules, or I would just claim like I usually do.

 

[Claws]

Nope.

Where do you fit in then because i know im not donnatella

 

[Claws]

I guess if we're gonna discuss the neuts I can tell you I'm like fairly sure Claws is Anna, CWE is Donatella, and Future is one of the remaining scum.

Im not anna either for once i randed town

 

[WindwardAway]

Im not anna either for once i randed town

Honestly I'm not interested in yeeting you because imo you've contributed in a pro-town way and at the very least I'm pretty sure you don't have TMI.

 

[WindwardAway]

Claiming is against the rules, or I would just claim like I usually do.

It's like pretty obvious to me what happened, the pile-uo votes after yours were a bit more questionable but I'm reasonably confident in my assessment.

 

[CWE]

I think Future is scum based on his handling of BN yesterday
My opinion might change if CWE is scum, but I'm guessing he's Donatella

 

[Claws]

If cwe were to flip town who would be your next donna?

 

[Claws]

Morri is also still out there idk

 

[WindwardAway]

If cwe were to flip town who would be your next donna?

If CWE flips town I'll eat my hat

 

[WindwardAway]

If CWE flips town I'll eat my hat

Cause my running theory fits so well with the Donatella kill on VK, since it means the serial killer viewed VK as a threat who likely clocked them as suspicious

 

[WindwardAway]

Morri is also still out there idk

All we know is that he exists and is submitting actions lol
I do have a theory on who he is, but I'll keep it to myself for a bit longer

 

[Claws]

Mmhmm i have 0 thoery on who he is he could be anna or donna or boring town or scum goon

 

[WindwardAway]

Mmhmm i have 0 thoery on who he is he could be anna or donna or boring town or scum goon

I think he's slightly less likely to be a goon
I also don't think he's Anna
Could be pretty much anything else, though

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm so sorry for the fucked up cell widths, Google docs won't let me fix it on mobile so I fought with it for like an hour and I'm giving up now.

This should be everything we currently know from the writeups, including the targeting now.

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm so sorry for the fucked up cell widths, Google docs won't let me fix it on mobile so I fought with it for like an hour and I'm giving up now.

This should be everything we currently know from the writeups, including the targeting now.

 

[WindwardAway]

Wtf, why did that double post

 

[Claws]

Cell lengths can suck it i prefer it minesweeper style

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm so sorry for the fucked up cell widths, Google docs won't let me fix it on mobile so I fought with it for like an hour and I'm giving up now.

This should be everything we currently know from the writeups, including the targeting now.

Anyway
Please keep this going if I die
We are still missing the N1 ninja kill but can reasonably assume it was either Mitch Rapp (BN) or Hayes performing it, with an edge case of coming from Donatella.

 

[WindwardAway]

And um, if the ninja kill came from the scum team, I think there is a nonzero chance whoever Donatella is could've maybe flaked on submitting their N1 kill or it doubled up on Val, but that seems unlikely.

 

[WindwardAway]

And um, if the ninja kill came from the scum team, I think there is a nonzero chance whoever Donatella is could've maybe flaked on submitting their N1 kill or it doubled up on Val, but that seems unlikely.

I could also just be completely wrong on Claws but I'm not quite convinced he's been playing like an SK

 

[Claws]

I enjoy sk and sad i did not rand it

 

[WindwardAway]

Oh shit
Actually, there's a small chance CWE could be town that I forgot to account for

 

[Claws]

Oh shit
Actually, there's a small chance CWE could be town that I forgot to account for

Dish you bish

 

[WindwardAway]

Oh shit
Actually, there's a small chance CWE could be town that I forgot to account for

I doubt it, though, because it has to do with mechanics and I don't believe that CWE ever thought VK was scum?

 

[WindwardAway]

I mean it's hard to tell what his reads were since he's just been emoji posting

 

[WindwardAway]

And CWE was voting on both Mazer and BN along with VK, so it doesn't look like CWE was scum reading VK

 

[Claws]

Or was he bussing his whole team

 

[Claws]

Who knows

 

[WindwardAway]

I think we're still maybe 2 or 3 votes away from hammer, and now that I'm finished my spreadsheeting I'm fine with voting again. But I'll put my vote back in the morning when I wake up, since I'll probably be active when most of you are asleep, and I don't want to cut discussion time short if people have things to say.

 

[WindwardAway]

Or was he bussing his whole team

Oh it's not about that, it's that there was a town roleblocker on VK last night so I can't really exclude the possibility that it was CWE, as much as I'd like to ignore that. My belief is that Prince Omar is a bit disconnected from the game and thread discussion since he blocked VK.

 

[WindwardAway]

Wait actually, I think I fucked up the kills on the spread sheet? Donatella killed VK and not Mazer, I mightve reversed those. Too lazy to check again.

But my point was, if CWE was spotted visiting VK it could mean one of 2 things. If he was spotted on Mazer he's just scum.

 

[WindwardAway]

Also, the town jailer disappeared from the writeup too?

 

[WindwardAway]

Wait actually, I think I fucked up the kills on the spread sheet? Donatella killed VK and not Mazer, I mightve reversed those. Too lazy to check again.

But my point was, if CWE was spotted visiting VK it could mean one of 2 things. If he was spotted on Mazer he's just scum.

I did write it correctly on the spreadsheet, phew.

 

[WindwardAway]

Anyway I'll be back to vote.

 

[Claws]

Yeah i noticed that too i am gunna have issues due to list too but who doesnt like a challenge

 

[Claws]

@MTR any thoughts or should i train you next

 

[CWE]

CWE was spotted visiting

 

[FutureHold]

I think Future is scum based on his handling of BN yesterday
My opinion might change if CWE is scum, but I'm guessing he's Donatella

My handling of BN? Because I can’t read him correctly? Gee sorry

CWE has given imo absolutely nothing of value, why do we keep him around?

 

[FutureHold]

Vote: FH

Since you are around please tell me why MTR or Matthieu or Claws are more likely scum then you. No need to rush there time.

Why those 3 specifically?

 

[WindwardAway]

My handling of BN? Because I can’t read him correctly? Gee sorry

CWE has given imo absolutely nothing of value, why do we keep him around?

Hey, I gotta start somewhere. The problem is not just that you made an incorrect read, it happens. Heck, Mazer even bodyguarded BN. But there's nothing you've done in this game that actually sticks in my memory, so that's basically all that's left an impression.

We're killing CWE today, though.

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm awake now, so time to vote.

Vote: CWE

 

[CWE]

We're killing CWE today, though.

 

[WindwardAway]

I am interpreting this as "I'm blue, da ba dee, da ba dai" because it makes it that much funnier

 

[Jarrod1983]

Scum CWE has promised something will happen if he's lynched before so it shouldn't be taken too serious. It's not impossible but I'm not surprised he tried hinting at something.

 

[CWE]

Scum CWE has promised something will happen if he's lynched before so it shouldn't be taken too serious. It's not impossible but I'm not surprised he tried hinting at something.

 

[Jarrod1983]

 

[CWE]

 

[MTR]

Hey sorry I was busy at work and then had a migraine. I will play catch up shortly here.

 

[WindwardAway]

Isn't the deadline soon? Like in 7 minutes?

 

[WindwardAway]

Scum CWE has promised something will happen if he's lynched before so it shouldn't be taken too serious. It's not impossible but I'm not surprised he tried hinting at something.

If he's town vengeful then he can nuke whoever he wants tbh
Press X to doubt

 

[CWE]

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm so sorry for the fucked up cell widths, Google docs won't let me fix it on mobile so I fought with it for like an hour and I'm giving up now.

This should be everything we currently know from the writeups, including the targeting now.

Signal boosting this

 

[WindwardAway]

If you guys no-Elim you will face my wrath in deadchat

 

[GrumpyCat]

I think we still have around 7 hours

 

[WindwardAway]

I think we still have around 7 hours

Oh was the eod moved because of the late start? I guess that makes sense

 

[GrumpyCat]

EOD time moves depending on when day starts.
Its around 2am my time now. But thats a typical out here so i am used to it.

 

[WindwardAway]

EOD time moves depending on when day starts.
Its around 2am my time now. But thats a typical out here so i am used to it.

Yep, the last several games I played all had eod times at like 4 am for me

 

[WindwardAway]

I gave some thought to how VK's cop results mightve been worded and I'm guessing it was town/not-town because of the way he worded his reads on Jarrod and me. It was essentially, unless I strongmanned through a roleblock, I was likely town. Not that I was probably not scum. Cause VK seemed to have ruled out that I could be Donatella. And similarly with Jarrod, he said unless some condemning evidence arose, he wouldnt be too worried about Jarrod. And knowing already that we had a serial killer, I interpreted that to mean that VK also didn't think Jarrod was Donatella.

 

[MTR]

What is the vote count?

 

[MTR]

Welp im thinkin mtr/future unless you think they are the missed rbs?

Why are you thinking me and Future?

 

[GrumpyCat]

What is the vote count?

CWE 4
FH 2

Majority 6

Around 6h left

 

[GrumpyCat]

6.30 pm central. maybe you could tell me when that is ;P

 

[Claws]

Hola did i miss it im so lost on time today

 

[Claws]

Why are you thinking me and Future?

Cuz your not doing anything its like pokeing a dead carcass

 

[Claws]

WHat is it 6 to elim or 5

 

[GrumpyCat]

10 remain. 6 to lynch. 48 hours from 6:30pm Central.

 

[Jarrod1983]

People who haven't voted should probably get theirs in now.

 

[Claws]

@CWE you a threat