Christmas Mafia 4 (Mafia 30): The House of MTR 2-God Loves, MTR kills

[Listo95]

Void is L-1 right now.

Just to have a vote on record
Vote: Val

 

[MTR]

So my vote is void if we have deets. Is there any more conversation to be had or do we want to hammer and just get going to the next phase? At this point I wouldn't mind that so I can go through things and be prepared for the next day phase.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I would like a chance to properly read things and give maybe some new thoughts, but I'm not gonna fight over it since I probably can't get around to that tonight.

So in case the phase ends, the one thing I'll say is that Satsu's post where he voted Void is pretty awkward and I don't think Insaner died just because he was obvious town. Investigate that carefully, but he never got a proper resolution because I pushed to chop and inactive, which did us nothing but trim some fat.

 

[llettuce]

Not that my opinion matters much but I would also like a little more time this phase

 

[MTR]

I am not opposed to going some more. I should be able to be around off and on at this point

 

[Mazer]

Vote Count:
Void (6)- Psych (750), Matt (752), claws (754), drey (796), satsu (799), foxxi (800),
Foxxi (1)- val (795),
Val (1) - Listo (801)

 

[Blind Ninja]

Not that my opinion matters much but I would also like a little more time this phase

Its been 7hrs since this post (your 2nd) and nearly 2 weeks from your 1st post... Any thoughts or input? Or do we have to wait another 2 weeks?

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote: Void
Sorry

 

[Mazer]

Vote Count:
Void (6)- Psych (750), Matt (752), claws (754), drey (796), satsu (799), foxxi (800), LDG (806)
Foxxi (1)- val (795),
Val (1) - Listo (801)

Voidkitten has been eliminated

He was ???

Active players:
1 Apocaclaws
2 Matthieu
3 Val the Moofia Boss
4 Psycho666Soldier
5 MTR
6 Satsu
7 LemonDemonGirl
8 Listo95
9 Blind Ninja
10 lettuce
11 Nightingale
12 Dreyski


All Wrapped up in a bow:
CWE-???
3puppies-Lt. Uhura- Town Neighborizer
Future - Tildey - Town JOAT
Morrison-Alberta Haynes - TOWN ON Tracker
Diva Smurf - Maze-Town 1x Vig
Insaner-100 Fun Morrison- Town Role Changer
Mitch-Jackie Daytona-Town Hider Variant
Voidkitten-????


It is now Night 4

 

[Mazer]

With The Winter Knight eliminated, the Forces of Mab were finally dealt a blow. WIthout the spectre of MTR, several Christmas studios tenatively started to talk about distribution. And even Vanessa Hudgens thought it might be safe to rejoin Social Media.

If only the forces of Mab could be defeated so easily.


Jesse Spencer was the first person on the scene. He was used to taking on horrific sites, but nothing had quite prepared him for the reality of taking in statements from Blind Ninja and Listo.


Columbo staggered around and sat on a stoop. Nightingale was reading a newspaper and he decided to spend a while reading it with her.

Divasmurf was also worried. But his worries brought him to action. And that action brought him to satsu.

Lletty thought that maybe the best way to stop all this evil hacking was to go off the grid. She tried to meet with studio execs and see if they could go back to using paper files that couldn’t be hacked. She thought that psych could maybe help her make this presentation.

The harsh winter winds of Mab blew. And all who felt them were overwhelmed by air and darkness.

Not Suspicious Future stalked Listo He could see them hiding in a bush. Listo figured this was pretty normal and sauntered on.

Marcone was continually sewing discord and rewriting contracts. He had Netflix and Hallmark at each other’s throats, and neither could see that they were causing issues for the other creating Christmas movies.

Danhausen killed the Christmas spirit just by making the same joke over and over again. Some marks laughed, but they hate Christmas anyway.

Voidkitten decided it was time take his courtship to the next level. After all, if MTR wasn’t around to kill, what could win NSF’s favor more than VK taking up the family business….OF KILLLING. So, voidkitten hacked Blind Ninja’s accounts. He got into his GPS, and as Blind Ninja was trying to drive to Hallmark studios, his GPS told him to drive off a bridge.



It was a horrible sight.



Blind Ninja has been eliminated.

He was Harry Dresden. Town One Shot Vig/1 x Motivator.

Active players:
1 Apocaclaws
2 Matthieu
3 Val the Moofia Boss
4 Psycho666Soldier
5 MTR
6 Satsu
7 LemonDemonGirl
8 Listo95
9 lettuce
10Nightingale
11 Dreyski


All Wrapped up in a bow:
CWE-???
3puppies-Lt. Uhura- Town Neighborizer
Future - Tildey - Town JOAT
Morrison-Alberta Haynes - TOWN ON Tracker
Diva Smurf - Maze-Town 1x Vig
Insaner-100 Fun Morrison- Town Role Changer
Mitch-Jackie Daytona-Town Hider Variant
Voidkitten-MTR-Scum WInter Knight
Blind Ninja - Harry Dresden-Town One Shot Vig / 1x Motivator


With the wizard out of the picture, Mab knew it was time to elevate her game. While the loss of mtr hurt, the blind ambition of voidkitten was something she could exploit. His love for Future would keep the House divided....and thereby keep the world divided.

With 11 active players, Hammer is now 6.

Begin Day 5

 

[SantaClaws]

Thanks busdriver for wasting my ability you jackass

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

 

[Foxxi]

It looks like columbo roleblocked me... I thought he was a cop but my action didn't go through and being stuck on a bench reading sounds like being kept occupied.

The only people I feel really good about are Psych and listo. Claws maybe too... the fact I don't think he's sus makes me paranoid I'm being pocketed, but that's not tinfoil I want to dig into right now.

I'm less sure about mitch dying to hiding behind val since void flipped MTR, and he was responsible for both deaths that night it looks like. I still don't understand how a hider dies while hiding though.

I'm also starting to wonder if Insaner was right about MTR in hindsight - I'd assumed that MTR couldn't be any of the red names because none of them were targeting insaner... but looking back that's really the only night we even see all the targets... which is weird. And void was targeting himself which usually isn't even possible..... so there is absolutely some fuckery there. I wouldn't be surprised if the targets were all just random and one of them did try to kill Insaner and it showed morri as the target instead.

Vote: MTR

 

[PsychoSoldier]

So I'm guessing CWE was probably janitor killed and scum just have a delayed reveal

Also I'm getting kinda scummy vibes from LDG. They seem a bit more talkative than normal and very focused on "what did 3p do?" Which in my experience is more likely to bring about a scum LDG

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

It was a horrible sight.



Blind Ninja has been eliminated.

He was Harry Dresden. Town One Shot Vig/1 x Motivator.

God damn it I laughed

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Looking at VK's ISO doesn't give much since he was mostly active on D1, but I remember it was after his vote on Matthieu where I said the wagon feels shady. Matthieu was nowhere near danger but I think it does strengthen his likelihood of just being town.

He interacts with BN, Claws, and LDG a lot in a way that makes it feel like Claws and LDG could be town, but VK is usually good about interacting with and giving guff to his partners, so I'm kind of holding off on committing to that opinion.

There is this for what it matters:

Val i assure you i am not scum this round

Dislike that this was your reaction to a Val vote tho.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Eh, MTR's ISO feels a bit forced but not quite enough for me to immediately assume whatever Insaner was talking about is damning for him. But since it's the night with the most fuckery(probably), it's a great look for him.

I just think Satsu's ISO stinks. Some of his comments about VK are sussy, and his general behavior around wagons is wonky.

I was gonna be a bit more in-depth but I don't have time to type it all up right now. But here are posts I quoted that I was gonna comment on:

Bad news. Unless there is an inactivity vig Mazer wont do anything, hes bluffing.

Whitch is bad because I am starting to lean theres just scum in lurkers.

If hes a hider than his breadcrumbs got to be from Calws bakery, cause their garbage ;p

Well, looks like there are trains going full speed ahead. 0 sleep votes thats good news.

otherwise pretty much that.

One is by your bestie Val an Insaners top town Psycho and another is on VK i guess. hes boring as f. otherwise what happened to voting out lurkers?

I got a theory. in previous games the mtr house players were never all on same team. So this time Diva FH and MTR are town so theres got to be scum in Lettuce , Tildey now Foxxi no shit.

Foxxis new so i would give her a day to shine.

Vote: Lettuce

Better than me. I am Town and at least have time to post/vote. Shes dead weight and Mazers not modkilling.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Vote: Satsu

Between my read and Insaner's death, this feels like a good place to start

 

[Listo95]

Vote: Satsu

Between my read and Insaner's death, this feels like a good place to start

I'm good with going for this also.

Vote: Satsu


Would really like Llettuce to do some stuff also...

 

[Satsu]

Vote: Satsu

Between my read and Insaner's death, this feels like a good place to start

Are you really going to jump me based on reads and feels? What did i ever do to you?

I told you theres got to be scum in house members. At least I apply science.

Vote: MTR

 

[SantaClaws]

Are you really going to jump me based on reads and feels? What did i ever do to you?

I told you theres got to be scum in house members. At least I apply science.

Vote: MTR

What have you done zzz

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Are you really going to jump me based on reads and feels? What did i ever do to you?

I told you theres got to be scum in house members. At least I apply science.

Vote: MTR

You're basing on an assumption of how Mazer would run it rather than actually trying to solve who has been helping and hurting town. Let's look at your record:

Bad news. Unless there is an inactivity vig Mazer wont do anything, hes bluffing.

Whitch is bad because I am starting to lean theres just scum in lurkers.

Encouraging us to not trust Mazer to modkill inactives when talking about leaving Morrison alone, who ended up being town.

If hes a hider than his breadcrumbs got to be from Calws bakery, cause their garbage ;p

This is part of a string of posts where he's trying to discredit Mitch's claim of being hider. It turned out to be true.

Well, looks like there are trains going full speed ahead. 0 sleep votes thats good news.

otherwise pretty much that.

One is by your bestie Val an Insaners top town Psycho and another is on VK i guess. hes boring as f. otherwise what happened to voting out lurkers?

The first post here just looks like wolfy filler, but notable though that he falls VK boring and tries to hint at going for one of the other lurkers instead.

I got a theory. in previous games the mtr house players were never all on same team. So this time Diva FH and MTR are town so theres got to be scum in Lettuce , Tildey now Foxxi no shit.

Foxxis new so i would give her a day to shine.

Vote: Lettuce

Better than me. I am Town and at least have time to post/vote. Shes dead weight and Mazers not modkilling.

Trying to argue that he's worth saving because "he's around" and is just relying on inactives. Notable that he did NOT join the Morrison train, which makes me wonder if he was avoiding a wagon that had momentum on its own and ended up flipping town.

What if VK is jennifer, it works too ;p

Trying to paint VK as a neutral instead of potentially scummy

Welp VK, if you were some neutral Jennifer survivor thinking you can win by not doing anything i could let it pass. But you are not going to afk at day and take a casual strolls during the night.

Vote: VK

And this awkward ass post that reads like a wolf who needs to make a vote on an outed partner look good.



I'm just not seeing a lot of town motivation in most of Satsu's posts.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Right, 8pm my time and almost time for milk and cookies, so this may be my last post for the night, unless you want to address me personally:

Take 3pups out, cos he dead, and me for obvious reasons. I don't feel the chances of all the remaining house being scum are high enough to risk voting for one of them. I'll let Mazer worry about Morri.
You know what? I'm going to align with Claws this day.
Vote: Voidkitten

Going through Claws' ISO at the moment and happened to come across this post. Probably not a bad look for Dreyski

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Ya you could shoot vk and likely hit scum this time

nothing i could yeet them but i prefer a house member 3pups is his usual weekends arent good and vk i wouldnt touch with a 10 and a half foot pole so they are both decent yeets

and then theres vk in the shadows doing nothin like a dead fish

These posts come off maybe a bit like a partner who knows VK is scum and is playing on there usual rivalry. A surface level good look, but probably not outside of Claws' scumrange

i actually like mitch enough to not d1 him he is usually a man of action and im willing to give him the day he also could be a jester

I like this post because I think Claws would take any opportunity to vote Mitch if scum. This feels more like a genuine read

Lets just yeet vk

Lets be the best ppl we can

Vote: vk

Heres your present kitten

These were on d2, and it's where Claws' push on VK starts feeling more real. Unfortunately, he pretty much drops it until I put Void, but eh...I still think this is a better look than not, especially since the vote here comes after Dreyski reasoned out why VK could be scum and voted first.

I also just can't help but look at the interaction with Insaner about his MTR read as genuine and not from a scum perspective.

I dunno, I guess it's not impossible Claws could be scum here, but the evidence at least leans in favor of him. Maybe if MTR is scum than the reaction to Insaner hits different and I change my mind.

 

[Listo95]

Watch the scum from the house be Llettuce/Tildey (now Foxxi).

 

[Listo95]

You're basing on an assumption of how Mazer would run it rather than actually trying to solve who has been helping and hurting town. Let's look at your record:

I will say I was sus of Void because it's a Mazer game. I've noticed since this entire Listoverse kinda started me and him are almost always opposed.

 

[Satsu]

Dont say that or theorycraft hater psych will look at your record and only pull up things that his faulty imagination sees as bad.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Dont say that or theorycraft hater psych will look at your record and only pull up things that his faulty imagination sees as bad.

If there was something I saw as good, I would have brought those up.

The best I got for you is if MTR and/or lettuce is scum, some of your pushing has been in the right direction.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Satsu, do you have

I will say I was sus of Void because it's a Mazer game. I've noticed since this entire Listoverse kinda started me and him are almost always opposed.

I'd actually argue that has even less actual basis in the theory, but I mean you were right, so what do I know.

And to be clear, I do think there's a decent chance one of the House members is scum, but that alone isn't enough for me to jump to chopping one of them.

Do you have thoughts on anyone else other than House members?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Satsu, do you have

I'd actually argue that has even less actual basis in the theory, but I mean you were right, so what do I know.

And to be clear, I do think there's a decent chance one of the House members is scum, but that alone isn't enough for me to jump to chopping one of them.

Do you have thoughts on anyone else other than House members?

The last sentence was directed at Satsu, not Listo

 

[Matthieu]

I'm going to take another look through the thread. I won't lie, I was sort of hoping to be night killed rather than make it to this point in the game since I'm not great at solving things but I will try my best.

 

[Satsu]

I have thoughts on everyone. What do you want to learn?

 

[Dreyski]

I wish there was more I could add to this conversation, but last night was not a productive one for me, and I am under certain restrictions regarding my vote. Basically, I'm asking you to trust my actions (but not necessarily follow them) and hopefully things will resolve themselves before the end of game.

1 Apocaclaws
2 Matthieu
3 Val the Moofia Boss
4 Psycho666Soldier
5 MTR
6 Satsu
7 LemonDemonGirl
8 Listo95
9 lettuce
10 Nightingale

Basically I'm townreading Psycho and Claws and Matthieu to a lesser extent. The rest of you are neutral at best.

 

[Dreyski]

EBWOP misssed out a comma;
'Psycho and Claws, and Matthieu to a lesser extent'

 

[Dreyski]

While I wouldn't be averse to voting Satsu, I am unable to as mentioned above.

MTR has a mini-train on him, and I wouldn't want to spread our votes too thinly, so
Vote: MTR

 

[llettuce]

Vote: mtr

 

[Listo95]

Vote: mtr

You wanna say anything with that vote?

 

[SantaClaws]

sorry ive been so busy today with the wow anni stuff its goin away soon and im finishing up

 

[SantaClaws]

I have thoughts on everyone. What do you want to learn?

LOC ? lynch other cats is gunna go full force soon

 

[SantaClaws]

give me your thoughts

 

[SantaClaws]

 

[SantaClaws]

Watch the scum from the house be Llettuce/Tildey (now Foxxi).

wouldnt surprise me 90% of the time sum1 is subbed is because mking a afk scum might fuck the team over

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote: MTR

 

[Matthieu]

Vote: MTR

 

[SantaClaws]

out come the wolves? ssame time

 

[SantaClaws]

where we at on votes anyways

 

[Listo95]

where we at on votes anyways

They just lynched MTR.

 

[SantaClaws]

those fuckers

 

[SantaClaws]

@Mazer these dicks lynched mtr

 

[Mazer]

Mtr - night (813), satsu (820), dreyski (835), letty (836), LDG (843), Matt(844)
Satsu - psych (818), listo (819),

MTR has been eliminated

He was ????

Begin Night 5