Mafia 19 - Cult of the Fox

[VoidKitten]

Thats fair.

Honestly to deal with flips I think we need to solve the Claws problem

If he took any inkling from Foxxi's game, he has another name that needs votes.

 

[Foxxi]

Thats fair.

Honestly to deal with flips I think we need to solve the Claws problem

This seems probable. But given we can't vote him I dunno how. Could try shooting him maybe.

 

[VoidKitten]

Village Idiot healing Claws. Okaaaay.
Unrecruiter protecting VK from the cult. Neato. I may be going out on a limb, but I assume they act like a doctor, except they stop recruitment instead of kills.
Sk doin' SK things and murderin' up the town. Sinister.
Also seemingly vigilantes plural about, and given 3 apparent attempted kills, that's plausibly 3 vigilantes who could I assume be recruited by the cult and become cultish killers instead. Scary stuff. But maybe not that scary? Claws messing about with blanks? Hmmm..

I read this and immediately went

"This sounds like a SK perspective."

 

[VoidKitten]

Foxxi or Robo. Foxxi or Robo.

I got rid of Badger, my first furry nemisis. Now I must remove the others.

I will reign supreme as the one true furry.

Robo is furry for the purposes of this exercise.

 

[VoidKitten]

Also, just to check

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: Foxxi

 

[VoidKitten]

@Claws

Vote count plz.

 

[Foxxi]

I'm not gunna fight a yeet today any more than I did yesterday, so have at it.

 

[VoidKitten]

I'm not gunna fight a yeet today any more than I did yesterday, so have at it.

I didn't ask if you would :)

 

[Listo95]

@Claws

Vote count plz.

He is raiding please leave a message after the beep.

Beeeeeeeeeeeeep

 

[VoidKitten]

So 19 players.

1 SK, 1 Claws.

Badger was one of the cult and I doubt we started with 1. Cult likely started with 2 or 3 if we are going with how throne of lies goes. ToL has a CD and limit on recruitments.

15/2/1/1 or 14/3/1/1 was what the game started as, assuming no other neutrals.

 

[VoidKitten]

He is raiding please leave a message after the beep.

Beeeeeeeeeeeeep

Fucking give me a vote count....thank you. click

 

[Blind Ninja]

So 19 players.

1 SK, 1 Claws.

Badger was one of the cult and I doubt we started with 1. Cult likely started with 2 or 3 if we are going with how throne of lies goes. ToL has a CD and limit on recruitments.

15/2/1/1 or 14/3/1/1 was what the game started as, assuming no other neutrals.

Info or assumption?

 

[Blind Ninja]

If he took any inkling from Foxxi's game, he has another name that needs votes.

This seems probable. But given we can't vote him I dunno how. Could try shooting him maybe.

What if he is also the village idiot?

 

[Claws]

jots these down for next game

 

[Claws]

heheheh

 

[Claws]

Vote Count:
Foxxi - 1 (VK 606)

Not voting: Foxxi, MTR, Robozerim, CWE, Val the Moofia Boss, Listo95, Matthieu, LemonDemonGirl, Lettuce, 3puppies, Grumpycat, BN, MitchRapp, Jarrod1983, Mazer, Claws

with 17 alive Majority is 9

Day ends june 22 @ 7pm est

 

[Claws]

there your VC now crap it up your pie hole

 

[VoidKitten]

Info or assumption?

It’s purple in write up

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Unrecruiter is a funny name.

 

[Foxxi]

Vote: Village Idiot

Prolly not, but worth trying

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: God-King Claws

Gotta check.

Hmmm. Foxxi is voteable still. Interesting.

I’m very okay with yeeting Foxxi today

 

[Foxxi]

And duh. Void is right. Badger and Xan show ??? But their names are colored, badger purple, xan green.

Show how much I'm paying attention XD

 

[Blind Ninja]

It’s purple in write up

Then by that same thought process, wouldnt claws be the SK since they are both orange?

 

[Foxxi]

Then by that same thought process, wouldnt claws be the SK since they are both orange?

If so then the village idiot really is an idiot XD

 

[Robozerim]

Then by that same thought process, wouldnt claws be the SK since they are both orange?

If it is indicative, it could merely mean they are both third party.

 

[MitchRapp]

There may have been more that holstered too.... but I'd wager yes at least 3

This reads to me like Foxxi holstered.

 

[Robozerim]

Foxxi or Robo. Foxxi or Robo.

I got rid of Badger, my first furry nemisis. Now I must remove the others.

I will reign supreme as the one true furry.

Robo is furry for the purposes of this exercise.

Who knew a voidkitten was such a scaredy cat. Frightened by the presence of the fox and sheep. Tisk tisk.

 

[Foxxi]

Who knew a voidkitten was such a scaredy cat. Frightened by the presence of the fox and sheep. Tisk tisk.

We should kill him tonight before he successfully eliminates all the furry friends

 

[Claws]

Vote Count:

Not voting: Foxxi, MTR, Robozerim, CWE, Val the Moofia Boss, Listo95, Matthieu, LemonDemonGirl, Lettuce, 3puppies, Grumpycat, BN, MitchRapp, Jarrod1983, Mazer, Claws, VK

with 17 alive Majority is 9

Day ends june 22 @ 7pm est

 

[Claws]

heheheh

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: Moderator

 

[VoidKitten]

We should kill him tonight before he successfully eliminates all the furry friends

I welcome your challenge and agree to fisticuffs right before dawn.

 

[VoidKitten]

Who knew a voidkitten was such a scaredy cat. Frightened by the presence of the fox and sheep. Tisk tisk.

I’d get rid of Claws first if I knew how. He is direct competition to my furry lordship

 

[VoidKitten]

Then by that same thought process, wouldnt claws be the SK since they are both orange?

I consider them both neutral. I get shit for it but I always color my neutrals the same color. Unless there is a specific reason to denote them separately.

 

[Claws]

idk if you want to do that "kill the claws" that is

 

[VoidKitten]

idk if you want to do that "kill the claws" that is

This oddly makes me want to kill you more.

 

[Claws]

This oddly makes me want to kill you more.

"How Rude"

 

[Claws]

 

[VoidKitten]

"How Rude"

Well that’s the first of two things I’m voting for.

If only I could get rid of you.

 

[VoidKitten]

I’m really not sure where to go. Because there’s no info other than alignments. No actions that hint at us knowing anything. It’s like D1 again (though it actually ended quite well)

We killed a cultin D1. There was no cult kill and we saw one doctor and three failed vigs. And a conversion block.

I assume that means cult attempted to convert (if it’s one or other like ToL) or they tried to kill Claws and were blocked which is unlikely.

I also assume the SK is someone in the MMO circle. And that Night 2 is likely to be bloody.

 

[Claws]

well you figure that out ima sleep on it if only one of my wounds wasnt healed :D still wounded tho Dying soon <3 you

 

[Foxxi]

So if we assume badger being purple means he was cult, then that would mean it's unlikely void is cult... unless he just decided to gun down a partner d1.... and I feel like badger would have more to say about that. And he appears to have been made un-recruitable last night, so likely still clear.

I would normally say it's unlikely BN was partnered with badger - and still is unlikely I think they began that way. I don't feel like that interaction was theatre. But. Cult. So fuck if that means anything now.

 

[VoidKitten]

So if we assume badger being purple means he was cult, then that would mean it's unlikely void is cult... unless he just decided to gun down a partner d1.... and I feel like badger would have more to say about that. And he appears to have been made un-recruitable last night, so likely still clear.

I would normally say it's unlikely BN was partnered with badger - and still is unlikely I think they began that way. I don't feel like that interaction was theatre. But. Cult. So fuck if that means anything now.

This is nice and all but I’d totally gun down a partner on D1.

 

[VoidKitten]

Anyway. Back to real vote.

Vote: Foxxi

 

[Foxxi]

This is nice and all but I’d totally gun down a partner on D1.

I know you would. I'm saying if that partner were badger I think he would have reacted differently to you doing that. I doubt he'd be amused by it and just let you do it without spitting vitrol at you

 

[VoidKitten]

I know you would. I'm saying if that partner were badger I think he would have reacted differently to you doing that. I doubt he'd be amused by it and just let you do it without spitting vitrol at you

Like you think I’d listen to anyone if I had my heart set on it. I’m the King busser.

 

[Matthieu]

Vote: Llettuce

 

[Robozerim]

We should kill him tonight before he successfully eliminates all the furry friends

Ugh, I already told you that I reject the name "furry friends" for our cult!

 

[Claws]

Vote Count:

Foxxi - 1 (vk 645)
Lettuce - 1 (matthieu 648)

Not voting: Foxxi, MTR, Robozerim, CWE, Val the Moofia Boss, Listo95, LemonDemonGirl, Lettuce, 3puppies, Grumpycat, BN, MitchRapp, Jarrod1983, Mazer, Claws

with 17 alive Majority is 9

Day ends june 22 @ 7pm est

 

[Claws]

Sleep time need dat 7 hr cat nap before work

 

[Foxxi]

Like you think I’d listen to anyone if I had my heart set on it. I’m the King busser.

Like you could stop badger from posting and attacking you back in thread? *That* is the point I am making. If you decided to hard bus badger all day I feel *he* would have been unhappy about it and attacked you back in thread rather than picking fights with BN .... and it's in your favor so I've no freaking idea why you're debating it anyway XD

 

[Foxxi]

Ugh, I already told you that I reject the name "furry friends" for our cult!

Fine, fine. Wanton Woolies it is.

 

[Robozerim]

Fine, fine. Wanton Woolies it is.

That's better.

 

[llettuce]

Done reading the twilight saga so I'm a person again any thing cool happen yesterday

 

[llettuce]

/do we think claws could be shot

 

[Blind Ninja]

Done reading the twilight saga so I'm a person again any thing cool happen yesterday

Maybe read the game you signed up for :)

Plenty of discussion.

 

[CWE]

Okay then...

 

[llettuce]

Maybe read the game you signed up for :)

Plenty of discussion.

Dude I feel so fucking baited read all 700 posts in one go and the only cool ones were in d2

 

[llettuce]

/do we think claws could be shot

Taking this back re: d2 event

 

[Blind Ninja]

Dude I feel so fucking baited read all 700 posts in one go and the only cool ones were in d2

I mean, you could have kept up with the game, instead of reading a book and ignoring all of D1.

 

[llettuce]

Presuming no rez since we get alignment despite lack of flip

 

[llettuce]

I mean, you could have kept up with the game, instead of reading a book and ignoring all of D1.

I'm not sure you know how my brain works - it's actually kinda rough, finished most of the series in like 5 days and didn't sleep for 2 of those

 

[llettuce]

Forgot to eat dinner tonight for bree tanner :((((

 

[CWE]

I refuse to believe Claws told us alignment with color. He fucking with us.

 

[llettuce]

Just a red herring then? @CWE

 

[CWE]

Just a red herring then? @CWE

IDGAF what color the herring is...

 

[GrumpyCat]

And duh. Void is right. Badger and Xan show ??? But their names are colored, badger purple, xan green.

Show how much I'm paying attention XD

As dusk broke over the tranquil wilderness, Claws slipped away into the mist, leaving behind disoriented cultists and an infuriated fox

Why would the fox be infuriated if Claws hammered town?

Such a deep thought and much attention from me.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Why would the fox be infuriated if Claws hammered town?

Such a deep thought and much attention from me.

Cult of Fox needs people alive to recruit. Dead town is 1 less body for them to recruit.

At least a possibility, aside from Badger actually being cult at the start

 

[CWE]

Why would the fox be infuriated if Claws hammered town?

Such a deep thought and much attention from me.

To fuck with us? Easiest answer.

 

[CWE]

Cult of Fox needs people alive to recruit. Dead town is 1 less body for them to recruit.

At least a possibility, aside from Badger actually being cult at the start

Or this.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Yeah not really sure about Badger. He didnt seem like a cultist but looks like he could have been a cultist. 50/50

 

[CWE]

Badger made zero "Evil" Badger posts.

Definitive? No. Do I care? Also no.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Vote: Sleep

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: Sleep

Holy shit you are boring...

Vote: Val

 

[llettuce]

Sleep votes seem ill-advised in cult games, plus we gotta have better things to do on d2.

I'm inclined to see it as sus given how much benefit cultists get from us wasting time.

@Val the Moofia Boss you have any thoughts other than a vote

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I'll let you know when I think of one.

 

[llettuce]

I'll let you know when I think of one.

Hm don't like this

 

[Claws]

Vote Count:

Foxxi - 1 (vk 645)
Lettuce - 1 (matthieu 648)
Val - 1 (BN 675)
Sleep - 1 (Val 674)


Not voting: Foxxi, MTR, Robozerim, CWE, Listo95, LemonDemonGirl, Lettuce, 3puppies, Grumpycat, MitchRapp, Jarrod1983, Mazer, Claws

with 17 alive Majority is 9

Day ends june 22 @ 7pm est

 

[Mazer]

This is nice and all but I’d totally gun down a partner on D1.

That's true.

But Badger would have reacted differently to other people if it was a set-up.

Co-sign foxxi's theory

 

[Mazer]

Cult of Fox needs people alive to recruit. Dead town is 1 less body for them to recruit.

At least a possibility, aside from Badger actually being cult at the start

But they would have many other alive people to recruit, and the dead town bringd their parity number down. Could always be I'm missing something, but seems improbable.

Still not sure how much to read into the flavor here.

 

[Mazer]

Im about to driving all day and a lot of tomorrow. Will check in at gas stations, hotel tonight as I can.

 

[Jarrod1983]

To fuck with us? Easiest answer.

Agreed. Claws runs a game, no way he doesn't mess with everyone.

 

[VoidKitten]

Badger made zero "Evil" Badger posts.

Definitive? No. Do I care? Also no.

"I don't believe Badger was scum so I'll assume the mod is lying" :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Writeup:

1. Badger is Purple
2. Calls Badger a lieutenant of the Fox
3. Says he denied town their kill so he could do himself (hammered)

Game:

"Badger probably wasn't scum"

 

[VoidKitten]

Cult of Fox needs people alive to recruit. Dead town is 1 less body for them to recruit.

This is the best view of this game I've seen. Recruitable town just add to the cult pile, depending if they are restricted or not.

 

[VoidKitten]

The only way to win a cult game is to kill the player recruiting people. If that can swap, we are fucked.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote: VoidKitten

 

[MTR]

I don't like that there have not been any flips yet.

Of course multiple people have guns in this game. I bet more than just 3 and people just didn't all shoot. Of course didn't matter since they were blanks.

This is going to be a frustrating game for sure.

 

[3puppies]

Following Claws' house raids where he replaced everyone's bullets with blanks, the village vigilantes, thinking they were acting in defense, shot BN,Listo,Lettuce with a blank. Doing nothing but dumbfounding them in the process.




The town was in an uproar and many Reloaded their bullets that were replaced with blanks.

I am wondering how many vigilantes are out and about, and how many kill attempts each may have? Replacing bullets with blanks kind of felt like a roleblock, but allowing reloading of the bullets makes me think a shot wasn't used, or at least they still have another shot?

I am guessing there are a LOT of vigilantes, perhaps even a majority of the players?

I read Badger as scum and was convinced he was even when there was no flip. He seems to get a LOT angrier when he's falsely accused. And I don't mean this to be disrespectful of the work he's done in his real-life to deal with what he's been going through. While I got on board early on his train, and even as others followed, I didn't sense Badger's reaction as a terribly angry falsely accused town.

What is interesting to me are the players who avoided the Badger train.

Foxxi - 5 (Grumpy 155, LDG 389, Badger 425, matthieu428,(Val 531)
LDG - 1 (MitchRapp 44)
Jarrod - 1 (CWE 441)

Not voting: Lettuce, Mazer

Grumpy, Mitch, and LDG I can give a pass, as those votes were cast well before Badger's train was seriously taking off. Matthieu and Val, on the other hand, could have been seen as trying to protect a teammate. Same with llettuce and Mazer.

Vote: matthieu

Going with POE to someone I see as more likely than some of the others

 

[MTR]

If he took any inkling from Foxxi's game, he has another name that needs votes.

Didn't you do that as well? Yeah that is definitely a good thought.

 

[MTR]

Vote: Sleep

 

[Foxxi]

That's true.

But Badger would have reacted differently to other people if it was a set-up.

Co-sign foxxi's theory

Thank you. At least someone got my point.

Void, despite his rather amusing hard-on for yeeting me is the only one I trust to not be cult right now. As for partners badger may have had, there were a few people who did try to say badger seemed town which would normally be suspect... but in a cult game eh. Cults usually start small and it's difficult to protect a member when you've only got like one or two other people to even attempt it. Add in the fact they may not want to make themselves obvious for trying to defend him, and that they can just try to replace him anyway because: cult.... and I think it may be more likely people who gave no opinion would be where to look. Not try to help, but not make it worse.

 

[llettuce]

I'm hoping almost everyone has a gun would be so claws

I don't like that there have not been any flips yet.

Of course multiple people have guns in this game. I bet more than just 3 and people just didn't all shoot. Of course didn't matter since they were blanks.

This is going to be a frustrating game for sure.

 

[Claws]

Vote Count:

Foxxi - 1 (vk 645)
Lettuce - 1 (matthieu 648)
Val - 1 (BN 675)
Vk - 1 (Ldg 688)
Matthieu - 1 (3pup 690)
Sleep - 1 (Val 674)


Not voting: Foxxi, MTR, Robozerim, CWE, Listo95, Lettuce, Grumpycat, MitchRapp, Jarrod1983, Mazer, Claws

with 17 alive Majority is 9

Day ends june 22 @ 7pm est

 

[3puppies]

I'm hoping almost everyone has a gun would be so claws

And then not allowing anyone to actually use a gun would be even more so claws

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: VoidKitten

Sigh

 

[VoidKitten]

I don't like that there have not been any flips yet.

Of course multiple people have guns in this game. I bet more than just 3 and people just didn't all shoot. Of course didn't matter since they were blanks.

This is going to be a frustrating game for sure.

No role flips. There are clear alignment flips.

 

[Foxxi]

XD

 

[Foxxi]

It feels good to take the backseat on trying to talk logic into people for a change XD