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[VoidKitten]

Again, Badger ABSOLUTELY could be scum. But he did not kill CWE. That's it.

 

[VoidKitten]

Wait, maybe I misread what you said
Who was targetable with non-kill abilities? I know I couldn't be killed on N1.

So in our games, immunity sometimes is to ALL abilities or just kills/votes, when given by a mod.

Since this one said kill, I clarified if I could use my action on one of you 4 immune people and I could have.

 

[Satsu]

Hes concistent on Badger i think if he was scum he would rather go with anyone else.

 

[WindwardAway]

I replaced the doctor, I assume. Roles are basically the same, but picking different targets.

Doublevoter and Motion Detector would be the other two claimed. Replaced the two neighbors?

I believe the neighbors still exist, but that seems like a lot of PRs.

 

[MitchRapp]

It's OMGUS. Plain and simple OMGUS.

I almost voted claws for the same thing.

Its that but it can also be I need to make sure I do not pick another scum member to target.

 

[VoidKitten]

I believe the neighbors still exist, but that seems like a lot of PRs.

At this point stop saying believe. If you know of neighbors existing, claim it.

 

[WindwardAway]

At this point stop saying believe. If you know of neighbors existing, claim it.

Fine, I'm a neighbor.

 

[VoidKitten]

Someone other than Windward, needs to claim to be your neighbor friend

 

[VoidKitten]

This just made this much more spicy.

 

[WindwardAway]

Someone other than Windward, needs to claim to be your neighbor friend

Correct
I will leave it to them whether they want to claim or not.
If they choose not to, you can flip me to prove that the neighborhood exists so that it can be verified.

 

[WindwardAway]

Correct
I will leave it to them whether they want to claim or not.
If they choose not to, you can flip me to prove that the neighborhood exists so that it can be verified.

And I'm leaving it to them because I don't know whether they want to claim or not, I didn't even ask before I claimed.

 

[VoidKitten]

Correct
I will leave it to them whether they want to claim or not.
If they choose not to, you can flip me to prove that the neighborhood exists so that it can be verified.

Just so I know, you are specifically neighbor correct? Not mason?

 

[WindwardAway]

Just so I know, you are specifically neighbor correct? Not mason?

Neighbor, unconfirmed alignments. We've been solving each other in the hood and I am currently townreading them.

 

[Satsu]

We are specifically a neighbourhood of 3

 

[VoidKitten]

Neighbor, unconfirmed alignments. We've been solving each other in the hood and I am currently townreading them.

I almost want to say one of you has to be scum for balance :D

 

[Satsu]

Hood is clean dont even think about it

 

[VoidKitten]

Hood is clean dont even think about it

I really doubt that seeing as the first group of neighbors were clean.

Too many TPRs otherwise for balance.

 

[WindwardAway]

I almost want to say one of you has to be scum for balance :D

You have no idea the number of times I've been randed into all-town hoods and we killed each other out of paranoia lmao

 

[VoidKitten]

You have no idea the number of times I've been randed into all-town hoods and we killed each other out of paranoia lmao

Oh I know it too. I'm literally going based on balance, is all.

 

[WindwardAway]

I really doubt that seeing as the first group of neighbors were clean.

Too many TPRs otherwise for balance.

I have reason to believe there are people lying about being PRs, outside of the neighborhood

 

[VoidKitten]

Foxxi is our most well known mod when it comes to game building and how to balance games. If every claimed TPR is legit, then it's too much unless scum has some power this game too.

 

[VoidKitten]

I have reason to believe there are people lying about being PRs, outside of the neighborhood

Oooooooo. I like this.

 

[WindwardAway]

I have reason to believe there are people lying about being PRs, outside of the neighborhood

Or at least lying about being town PR
maybe they're scum PR, I wouldn't be surprised

 

[VoidKitten]

Or at least lying about being town PR
maybe they're scum PR, I wouldn't be surprised

Also possible too. Foxxi did an entire game around this premise.

 

[VoidKitten]

Made every role able to be any alignment and randed it. So you had trackers/cops potentially on scum which were useless.

 

[WindwardAway]

Made every role able to be any alignment and randed it. So you had trackers/cops potentially on scum which were useless.

Oh yeah I've seen that before
It's always kinda interesting to see how that pans out
Scum trackers are still useful for PR hunting and in SK games
Scum cops are also mildly useful if there are 3ps, but otherwise they're an interesting distraction

 

[VoidKitten]

Okay time to see what people claimed (if anyone has fruits, let me know because im not about to scour the thread for it). And again, I missed like three people here so lets actually collate this list.

VK - Banana Roleblocker (Snozzberries is a euphemism for penis, just like banana)
Windward - Neighbor
Satsu - Neighbor (again? but said its 3 neighbors and WA made it seem like its two?)
Badger - Pineapple Vanilla
Matthieu - Motion Detector
Claws -
Mitch -
Blind Ninja

 

[WindwardAway]

Okay time to see what people claimed (if anyone has fruits, let me know because im not about to scour the thread for it). And again, I missed like three people here so lets actually collate this list.

VK - Banana Roleblocker (Snozzberries is a euphemism for penis, just like banana)
Windward - Neighbor
Satsu - Neighbor (again? but said its 3 neighbors and WA made it seem like its two?)
Badger - Pineapple Vanilla
Matthieu - Motion Detector
Claws -
Mitch -
Blind Ninja

I claimed my flavor already too, it's cherry (I was apple last rand)

 

[VoidKitten]

I figured you did. I just couldn't remember what it was.

Okay time to see what people claimed (if anyone has fruits, let me know because im not about to scour the thread for it). And again, I missed like three people here so lets actually collate this list.

VK - Banana Roleblocker (Snozzberries is a euphemism for penis, just like banana)
Windward - Cherry Neighbor
Satsu - Neighbor (again? but said its 3 neighbors and WA made it seem like its two?)
Badger - Pineapple Vanilla
Matthieu - Motion Detector
Claws -
Mitch -
Blind Ninja

 

[WindwardAway]

Oh and I verify it's 2 neighbors, that's why I said "they" and also why I said "too many PR claims", it was a hint

 

[WindwardAway]

Oh and I verify it's 2 neighbors, that's why I said "they" and also why I said "too many PR claims", it was a hint

3* fucking typo

 

[WindwardAway]

It's Satsu + me + someone else

 

[MitchRapp]

I have claimed more useful alive than dead to the town. I also told everyone I was apple a while back when BN was asking.

 

[VoidKitten]

It's Satsu + me + someone else

I really doubt all three of you are town :D

That would be fucking amusing if you were.

5 neighbors and none of them randed scum?

 

[WindwardAway]

I've also considered it's possible that it's a power heavy game, if neighbors are still considered somewhat of a power, but Val flipped goon, right?

 

[VoidKitten]

I've also considered it's possible that it's a power heavy game, if neighbors are still considered somewhat of a power, but Val flipped goon, right?

Yep. Which now makes me wonder. If scum has their own roleblocker, I really can't clear anyone. I assumed it was lower power since thats what the first game was.

I don't know if Foxxi would tell me if my action was blocked since it technically doesn't give results.

 

[WindwardAway]

I really doubt all three of you are town :D

That would be fucking amusing if you were.

5 neighbors and none of them randed scum?

I was in a neighborhood with 7 town and 0 scum once
Tbf that's cause I was recruiting, but everyone was paranoid except for me lmao

 

[WindwardAway]

Yep. Which now makes me wonder. If scum has their own roleblocker, I really can't clear anyone. I assumed it was lower power since thats what the first game was.

I don't know if Foxxi would tell me if my action was blocked since it technically doesn't give results.

Scum roleblocker is definitely possible if there are a few vanillas scattered in, plus the neighborhood since we don't have actions either. It kind of balances itself out.

 

[Blind Ninja]

You were being pedantic, trying to show how smart you were and drag your feet until the last second. You had 48 hours to pull the trigger and wanted to wait until the final moments. Spare me the drama, I had no interest in you allowing this to go to a rerand again. Tough decisions had to be made and I made them because you wouldn't.

Rerand happened after 80hrs someone said, not 48... you didnt like it not being in your hands so you took it

Then you only analyzed the counter wagon...

 

[WindwardAway]

I have claimed more useful alive than dead to the town. I also told everyone I was apple a while back when BN was asking.

Yeah, but is that a PR claim or are you just stating that you want to be alive?

 

[VoidKitten]

So Mitch isn't in the neighborhood :D

 

[WindwardAway]

So Mitch isn't in the neighborhood :D

No he is not

 

[VoidKitten]

Is it Claws? If it Claws its gonna make me want to vote on him more lmao.

 

[VoidKitten]

Man, I hate neighborhoods when I'm not in them.

People get to have more fun than others in the game and it sucks :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Or when I do get them, literally no one talks.

 

[MitchRapp]

Satsu was relatively quiet last time around but the things he did say made me really think he was trying to help.

 

[Satsu]

Satsu - Neighbor (again? but said its 3 neighbors and WA made it seem like its two?)

kiwi town neighbor with ww and 1 else.

 

[WindwardAway]

I will let the third neighbor decide for themselves if they want to claim who they are

 

[VoidKitten]

VK - Banana Roleblocker
Windward - Cherry Neighbor (Satsu and 1 of BN or Claws)
Satsu - Kiwi Neighbor (WA and 1 of BN or Claws
Badger - Pineapple Vanilla
Matthieu - Motion Detector
Claws -
Mitch -
Blind Ninja

 

[WindwardAway]

Or when I do get them, literally no one talks.

One time I got an all-town publicly visible hood of 3, both my neighbors died and I was left alone so I just talked to myself for the entire length of the game and kept all my solving there
I got PoE'd because people thought I was scum putting on a show, but we managed to yeet the last scum in LyLo correctly

 

[Satsu]

I will let the third neighbor decide for themselves if they want to claim who they are

 

[VoidKitten]

One time I got an all-town publicly visible hood of 3, both my neighbors died and I was left alone so I just talked to myself for the entire length of the game and kept all my solving there
I got PoE'd because people thought I was scum putting on a show, but we managed to yeet the last scum in LyLo correctly

I like having the side chat. Its a game within a game. Even scum chat is fun too because it is more interactions.

Especially on discord since people are more willing to quickly shoot a message from their phone than make a forum post/QT (RIP)

 

[VoidKitten]

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Are you claiming Claws as the neighbor :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Why are you guys town reading the other neighbor, whoever they are (be vague if you wanna keep the secret, I guess, tho its literally between two people)

Actually BN may have claimed. So it has to be claws.

 

[WindwardAway]

Why are you guys town reading the other neighbor, whoever they are (be vague if you wanna keep the secret, I guess, tho its literally between two people)

Actually BN may have claimed. So it has to be claws.

A lot of solving going on in the hood

 

[Satsu]

Why are you guys town reading the other neighbo

it just cant be faked

 

[WindwardAway]

And I don't mean like, "writes words, must be town" but I think both Satsu and Claws have given some really good input throughout the game so far

 

[VoidKitten]

Can you give me an example? I want to believe you, but like I don't :D

 

[Satsu]

You need to make us believe we have 3 votes ;p

 

[VoidKitten]

VK - Banana Roleblocker
Windward - Cherry Neighbor (Satsu and Claws)
Satsu - Kiwi Neighbor (WA and Claws)
Badger - Pineapple Vanilla
Matthieu - Motion Detector
Claws - Neighbor (Satsu and WA)
Mitch -
Blind Ninja - Jackfruit Vanilla

 

[VoidKitten]

You need to make us believe we have 3 votes ;p

I don't give a shit. Vote me then lmao.

 

[VoidKitten]

I have to play fiction fight anyway or Mazer will kill me.

 

[WindwardAway]

Can you give me an example? I want to believe you, but like I don't :D

Example of what, specifically Claws solving in the hood?

 

[Satsu]

I don't give a shit. Vote me then lmao.

Why now? its not lylo and you just started with rerand

 

[VoidKitten]

Example of what, specifically Claws solving in the hood?

Yep. I can see reasons why Satsu isn't scum unless it was some grand bussing plan on Val. Which is possible, but less likely.

 

[Satsu]

I go with my scum read from top to bottom. Like water.

 

[VoidKitten]

Why now? its not lylo and you just started with rerand

It's day 3. It's fair game now, ofc.

 

[VoidKitten]

@MitchRapp Fruit and role plz

 

[WindwardAway]

Yep. I can see reasons why Satsu isn't scum unless it was some grand bussing plan on Val. Which is possible, but less likely.

Cause he's been doing stuff like keeping track of flavor claims with us, discussing association reads, etc.
We talked about our flavor claims before Val claimed in the thread, so on the topic of Val claiming Satsu's flavor for whatever stupid reason, Satsu actually claimed his first to us. If Claws were scum, he could've relayed that info and Val probably wouldn't have claimed kiwi.

 

[VoidKitten]

Cause he's been doing stuff like keeping track of flavor claims with us, discussing association reads, etc.
We talked about our flavor claims before Val claimed in the thread, so on the topic of Val claiming Satsu's flavor for whatever stupid reason, Satsu actually claimed his first to us. If Claws were scum, he could've relayed that info and Val probably wouldn't have claimed kiwi.

Bold of you to assume he wouldn't do that. We have a term "Val Things" (tm) for a reason :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Cause he's been doing stuff like keeping track of flavor claims with us, discussing association reads, etc.
We talked about our flavor claims before Val claimed in the thread, so on the topic of Val claiming Satsu's flavor for whatever stupid reason, Satsu actually claimed his first to us. If Claws were scum, he could've relayed that info and Val probably wouldn't have claimed kiwi.

Is he bringing them up or commenting on things you have talked about and extrapolating?

 

[WindwardAway]

Bold of you to assume he wouldn't do that. We have a term "Val Things" (tm) for a reason :D

Oh lol, but why?

 

[WindwardAway]

Is he bringing them up or commenting on things you have talked about and extrapolating?

Both

 

[VoidKitten]

If the neighborhood is clean (x for doubt), I'd almost have to toss Mitch in there because he's clean for basically the same reasons as Satsu by association/vote. Again, assuming its not Satsu/Mitch/Badger.

 

[VoidKitten]

Which makes the two scum in the following 3 players (not including me if yall really wanna tinfoil)

Matthieu, BN, and Badger.

 

[VoidKitten]

Claimed Power Roles:

3 Neighbors
Roleblocker (Town, but not confirmed to yall)
Doublevoter (Town)
Motion Detector

If anyone is lying, it is Matthieu or one of the neighbors. I get why you guys want to think people are lying, but I know I'm not which is why I am wary of the neighbors and to an extent Matthieu being a scum motion detector.

 

[Satsu]

Looks like badger is in both worlds? Are we doing badger or do you want a rerand?

 

[VoidKitten]

Since Matthieu is clearly a motion detector or some type of invest, but alignment isn't confirmed.

 

[VoidKitten]

Looks like badger is in both worlds? Are we doing badger or do you want a rerand?

It's been like less than 24 hours :D

 

[Satsu]

Ok sure its like we cant get to 80 or something

 

[VoidKitten]

Ok sure its like we cant get to 80 or something

I think we are probably safe under 48. 60 would be where I would stop, if we reeeeeeealy wanted to push it.

 

[MitchRapp]

@MitchRapp Fruit and role plz

I am apple.

I have claimed more useful alive than dead to the town. I also told everyone I was apple a while back when BN was asking.

For the 3rd time. I am apple.

 

[VoidKitten]

For the 3rd time. I am apple.

That is 50% of the question

 

[MitchRapp]

More useful alive than dead to the town.

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: Mitch

On principle. I don't give a fuck if it causes us to lose

 

[Satsu]

Come on tell us your exact role or it could be an introduction on a typicall mooc game.

 

[VoidKitten]

Come on tell us your exact role or it could be an introduction on a typicall mooc game.

Too late. I went there, lmao

 

[Matthieu]

Matthieu frowned. He wasn't lying. He contemplated the situation in silence. Three inhabitants of the neighbourhood insisting that they were totally trustworthy because they happened to have a group together on WhatsApp didn't sit right with him. Even two would be a bit of a stretch, but three? It'd be the perfect place for a murderer to hide as far as he was concerned.

 

[WindwardAway]

Claimed Power Roles:

3 Neighbors
Roleblocker (Town, but not confirmed to yall)
Doublevoter (Town)
Motion Detector

If anyone is lying, it is Matthieu or one of the neighbors. I get why you guys want to think people are lying, but I know I'm not which is why I am wary of the neighbors and to an extent Matthieu being a scum motion detector.

I'm trying to think what use a scum motion detector would even have, though

 

[Claws]

It's OMGUS. Plain and simple OMGUS.

I almost voted claws for the same thing.

Yawn

 

[VoidKitten]

I'm trying to think what use a scum motion detector would even have, though

TPR hunting.

 

[VoidKitten]

Plus, its just a good, verifiable action claim.

Less useful in what data it gives, but the ability to be confirmed and confirm things is big.

 

[WindwardAway]

Matthieu frowned. He wasn't lying. He contemplated the situation in silence. Three inhabitants of the neighbourhood insisting that they were totally trustworthy because they happened to have a group together on WhatsApp didn't sit right with him. Even two would be a bit of a stretch, but three? It'd be the perfect place for a murderer to hide as far as he was concerned.

See this is EXACTLY why a hood with 3 town makes sense, because town are gonna get distracted by it and start hunting as if there HAS TO be scum in Satsu/Claws/me, scum will happily oblige, and then by the time all 3 of us flip town, the game is over and scum win.

Nope, not buying it.

 

[WindwardAway]

TPR hunting.

It doesn't even tell them if their target visits or is visited, so it's like a blind watcher/tracker.

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote: Mitch

On principle. I don't give a fuck if it causes us to lose

I hate hard claiming. With a passion.

Shouldn't be hard to figure out. I haven't claimed any power role of the sort.

 

[WindwardAway]

Plus, its just a good, verifiable action claim.

Less useful in what data it gives, but the ability to be confirmed and confirm things is big.

Mmm
Similar to a scum cop lol

 

[Claws]

Is it Claws? If it Claws its gonna make me want to vote on him more lmao.

Come at me

 

[Satsu]

Three inhabitants of the neighbourhood insisting that they were totally trustworthy because they happened to have a group together

Its entirely unbleble

 

[Claws]

I hate hard claiming. With a passion.

Shouldn't be hard to figure out. I haven't claimed any power role of the sort.

You did claim tpr eariler did you lie and your vanilla

 

[WindwardAway]

Its entirely unbleble

Lmao