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[VoidKitten]

*Or she just chose to vote that person because of something in thread and didn't even check with team.

 

[Matthieu]

I usually don't have a plan either these days, to be fair.

 

[Matthieu]

Even the other day a close friend said he'd probably be really confused if he ever got a glimpse of how my mind works.

 

[VoidKitten]

Even the other day a close friend said he'd probably be really confused if he ever got a glimpse of how my mind works.

I'd watch this movie. 10/10

 

[VoidKitten]

I usually don't have a plan either these days, to be fair.

Except, you absolutely make plays to try and get reactions. Your entire playstyle is just one big giant reaction test half the time :D

LDG does not. She just does.

 

[VoidKitten]

@MTR Where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[VoidKitten]

Also, we should make a decision within the next 12ish or so hours. I would not be surprised if a re-rand happened again because we took too long or some shit.

 

[CWE]

Sorry I was logged out of Discord plus out last night so didn’t even notice I’d been resurrected.

I’ll read through and catch up later.

A likely story...

 

[WindwardAway]

Also, we should make a decision within the next 12ish or so hours. I would not be surprised if a re-rand happened again because we took too long or some shit.

Oh yeah I don't doubt that, that's why I'm trying to solve as fast as I can
Not like I really mind the rerand, it makes things interesting, but if it frustrates people the engagement levels might go down again, and i want to avoid that.

 

[CWE]

Also, we should make a decision within the next 12ish or so hours. I would not be surprised if a re-rand happened again because we took too long or some shit.

12 hours...I'll make my decision by 12 thank you very much.

 

[WindwardAway]

But yeah basically my thought was that LDG likely was a cop, but then why werent we told about it? So then I thought, maybe she was scum and decided to lie, but the last day of the previous rand never actually ended, so she had like no premise for claiming to suddenly have a result on MTR just to bus him. But for that matter, she also shouldn't have gotten a random cop result if the day didn't end, either...

 

[Badger]

Did yall know about a doctor? Because if a doctor was discussed, i find it unlikely that a cop was never discussed at all. ever.

There was discussion over a doctor but from when I was there, I can’t recall cop being brought up.

 

[WindwardAway]

But if LDG was a cop then someone else lied

Or maybe it was Val, I kinda forgot he was also there and never claimed

 

[WindwardAway]

But if LDG was a cop then someone else lied

Or maybe it was Val, I kinda forgot he was also there and never claimed

I'm ngl I derpcleared him off voting Badger and disappearing since badger was the nightkill

 

[VoidKitten]

But if LDG was a cop then someone else lied

Or maybe it was Val, I kinda forgot he was also there and never claimed

Val also said he was vanilla when asked.

LDG - Cop
Val - Vanilla
MTR - No claim, but probably scum by PoE unless both val and LDG are lying lol.

 

[WindwardAway]

Oh btw I ISO'd Satsu, I'm not fully convinced he's town but he also went for me like last time so honestly idk, he might just not know how to read me

I don't think he looks the scummiest today, though. Only thing I think might be a red flag is saying he'd vote me if you guys could get enough votes on me, because I can't be voted today, and neither can he so I'm pretty sure he's aware of that. But that's more like I think it mightve been a suggestion to waste votes and not so much that I think he's actually trying to get me voted out specifically today.

 

[WindwardAway]

Val also said he was vanilla when asked.

LDG - Cop
Val - Vanilla
MTR - No claim, but probably scum by PoE unless both val and LDG are lying lol.

Is there like, any chance Mitch would lie?
He'd have a reason to lie if he went scum > scum, if only because I pushed him on the premise that his baseless pushing on me was very similar. If he's town now I don't think he would've had a reason to lie either way.

 

[VoidKitten]

Is there like, any chance Mitch would lie?
He'd have a reason to lie if he went scum > scum, if only because I pushed him on the premise that his baseless pushing on me was very similar. If he's town now I don't think he would've had a reason to lie either way.

Satsu and Mitch corroborated they were neighbors.

So technically Mitch could be scum since its neighbors, but eh.

 

[VoidKitten]

I'd tend to think both of them were town.

 

[WindwardAway]

Satsu and Mitch corroborated they were neighbors.

So technically Mitch could be scum since its neighbors, but eh.

Neighbors doesn't mean anything, the only thing I care about is whether Satsu thought Mitch was towny then and if he still thinks Mitch is towny now, since he probably has more to compare with.

And I have a mild suspicion on Satsu here but I don't think his play is wildly different from in the previous rand. I'm not more sus of Satsu now than I was in the previous rand, and he flipped town there so I don't really want to go the same route and potentially repeat the mistake.

 

[VoidKitten]

I think its Mitch, LDG, or MTR today.

MTR since he hasn't posted. I know he is sick, but gotta post to play.
LDG since this confusion, but risk losing a cop if she is actually currently a cop. But we won't get a ton of meaningful posts.
Mitch since his demeanor changed and at least 3 of us felt a certain way about it.

 

[VoidKitten]

Neighbors doesn't mean anything, the only thing I care about is whether Satsu thought Mitch was towny then and if he still thinks Mitch is towny now, since he probably has more to compare with.

And I have a mild suspicion on Satsu here but I don't think his play is wildly different from in the previous rand. I'm not more sus of Satsu now than I was in the previous rand, and he flipped town there so I don't really want to go the same route and potentially repeat the mistake.

I think the kill choice tonight will be interesting.

 

[Matthieu]

Except, you absolutely make plays to try and get reactions. Your entire playstyle is just one big giant reaction test half the time :D

Is the play in the room with us right now, though?

 

[Claws]

Is a tomato a fruit?

Yes

 

[WindwardAway]

Vote: MTR
Why did you suddenly start posting again? Did your Scum chat tell you to?

Last post pre re-rand. - Foxxi

Vote: MTR
Checked, he's sus.

I did last night

A Cop

Ok so check this out, LDG's last post on MTR before reranding was accusing him of being scum, and then immediately after the rerand she claims to have copped him. She specifically says she copped him the night before (if I'm reading this correctly) because there was no night phase between the rands. Meaning LDG would've known the whole day that MTR was scum, if she actually copped him.

 

[WindwardAway]

CWE is my main sus person at this point. Just doesn't seem interested in being helpful

Well you aren't posting much either so....

I wake up to three votes. What in the world.

Any particular reason for this vote? I get claws and I can see why Dreyski would go ahead and get on the train but curious why start with me

Just vote someone lmao

If we look even farther back:
MTR shades CWE, MTR gets voted by 3 people, engages specifically with Mitch about his vote, LDG just says to vote and then AFTER that she later votes MTR but never claims she has a cop result on him.

I think she's lying about being a cop in the previous rand, but I'm not sure why, other than that she doesn't want people to know she was scum previously.

Vote: LDG

 

[WindwardAway]

I see no reason to lie about your alignment in a previous rand unless you have something to hide in the current rand.

 

[WindwardAway]

Ftr I also still think the other two top wagons are fine, I'd move if we need it to flip a wagon. But this is where my suspicion is greatest right now.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

I give up. Arguing with your fucks is exhausting.
Vote: LDG

 

[VoidKitten]

Shes totally going to flip cop :D

 

[Badger]

Would a scum LDG self-vote like this?

 

[VoidKitten]

Would a scum LDG self-vote like this?

Yes

 

[VoidKitten]

I feel this is going to be a misyeet. I am half tempted to pursue it still.

 

[VoidKitten]

Eh fuck it.

Vote: LDG

 

[VoidKitten]

@Badger Why aren't you scum?

 

[VoidKitten]

Like, if LDG is scum here I will be surprised. I 100% expect her to flip cop :D

 

[VoidKitten]

But, as wise people once taught me, LAL

 

[VoidKitten]

I wonder if Foxxi will reveal people's original roles?

Probably not.

 

[CWE]

But, as wise people once taught me, LAL

What do the Los Angeles Lakers have to do with this?

 

[Claws]

Shes totally going to flip cop :D

mmoc tradition

 

[Claws]

Eh fuck it.

Vote: LDG

For shame

 

[VoidKitten]

What do the Los Angeles Lakers have to do with this?

Lynch All Liars

 

[VoidKitten]

For shame

It feels so dirty dude. I keep wanting to swap back to Mitch

 

[VoidKitten]

It would be really funny if LDG got Jester and did all of this to get yeeted.

I'd be so proud.

 

[VoidKitten]

Especially if shes a vengeful Jester. That would be the icing on the cake of awesomeness.

 

[WindwardAway]

Shes totally going to flip cop :D

Why doesn't she just clarify which game she's a cop in??

 

[WindwardAway]

Vote: MTR

 

[Badger]

@Badger Why aren't you scum

Well I only just got made aware that there was a re-rand so yeah kinda switched off a bit after being killed early and some dead chat discourse wasn’t expecting a second chance as there seemed to be a legit dead chat going on.
The closest I can remember is being placed in “limbo”. Hell I’ve run games like that so this came as a bit of a surprise.

If you know my scum play, I’d still be active trying to misdirect.

Also the small matter of being pineapple town too.

From reading through, I’m liking CWE’s play a bit better, seems more towny. I would agree that Mitch does seem a bit different too.

 

[WindwardAway]

Maybe it's better to vote the cop check? I still have my doubts LDG ever is or was a cop?? But wtf

 

[WindwardAway]

Ngl I could also ignore this whole thing and vote mitch but LDG/MTR has to contain at least one scum even if LDG isn't cop

 

[VoidKitten]

Maybe it's better to vote the cop check? I still have my doubts LDG ever is or was a cop?? But wtf

I expect her to actually be the cop. But again, I also am not that concerned if we lose the Cop.

It sounds scummy, but it is what it is. Cops are crutches.

 

[VoidKitten]

Ngl I could also ignore this whole thing and vote mitch but LDG/MTR has to contain at least one scum even if LDG isn't cop

I dunno. If they were both scum last rand, then this rand i doubt both are scum. Maybe 1.

Assuming it wasn't like Val and MTR last time.

 

[Claws]

It would be really funny if LDG got Jester and did all of this to get yeeted.

I'd be so proud.

That would be funny

 

[VoidKitten]

I'm still hung up on two mitch posts lol

 

[Claws]

I expect her to actually be the cop. But again, I also am not that concerned if we lose the Cop.

It sounds scummy, but it is what it is. Cops are crutches.

I think the question is did all roles change or only some

 

[VoidKitten]

I think the question is did all roles change or only some

I would assume there will be some similar and changes. That's my best feeling.

 

[Claws]

I feel the ldg push is to save mitch

 

[Claws]

And if she flips town ill be goin mitch tomorrow anyways

 

[VoidKitten]

I feel the ldg push is to save mitch

Mitch claimed to be a TPR just like LDG has. He just wasn't specific.

 

[Claws]

So potencially lose the cop or lynch mitch or mtr hmm

 

[VoidKitten]

LDG - Claimed Cop
Mitch - Claimed TPR (I am more valuable alive - was hinting at actions it seemed like)

 

[Claws]

@LemonDemonGirl dg did you look at your role after rerand? Check your discord

 

[Badger]

@LemonDemonGirl dg did you look at your role after rerand? Check your discord

Yeah this is what I’m wondering too.

 

[Claws]

LDG - Claimed Cop
Mitch - Claimed TPR (I am more valuable alive - was hinting at actions it seemed like)

I mean that claim is what jarrod does tho im important dont lynch me any1 else but not me

 

[Claws]

I doubt there are trps tho we obv had very little last game judging from the flios

 

[Claws]

Apparently i was wishmaster fruit vendor since i got mod to brong yall back in

 

[Claws]

 

[Claws]

I Cant wrap my head around yall tryung to yeet the cop tho

 

[Satsu]

He was Satsu's neighbor pre-rand and I assume they're not neighbors again, though. That's why I poked Mitch to give a read on Satsu if he had one. Maybe I should also poke @Satsu to ask whether he thinks Mitch is playing different to the first rand.

He doesnt seem different to me and i had a town lean on him last game. His push on you last game could look unnatural because he asked me if i had thoughts about the game and i said i have scum read on you. And he was like ok lets do windward.

 

[Satsu]

I Cant wrap my head around yall tryung to yeet the cop tho

Can she get replaced though. I think shes done, not coming back. Until next game that is.

 

[Claws]

Can she get replaced though. I think shes done, not coming back. Until next game that is.

No idea why not just let scum take her out if shes the cop its a prime target

 

[Claws]

If they dont posdibuility that she cops them and plays

 

[Claws]

She doesnt make plays as scum like ever

 

[VoidKitten]

I Cant wrap my head around yall tryung to yeet the cop tho

Because she hasn't specifically claimed she is currently the cop, as far as I can tell.

That is just us inferring because we don't think there was a cop last game.

But why not just be clear and not lie?

 

[Satsu]

Ok so assuming ldg is a cop, is mtr a legit check ;p

 

[Claws]

As for being replaced absolutly if thats an option but why do that if shes on the yeet block

 

[Claws]

Because she hasn't specifically claimed she is currently the cop, as far as I can tell.

That is just us inferring because we don't think there was a cop last game.

But why not just be clear and not lie?

When has she ever lied?

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: Satsu

I don't care that I can't.

 

[VoidKitten]

When has she ever lied?

So is Val the other scum then and he is lying too about being vanilla?

Why would anyone lie about what they were in the prior rand.

 

[Claws]

I Think 2 best options are mtr or mitch has mtr even come back since he was near speed yeeted

 

[VoidKitten]

SOMEONE is lying about not being scum previously.

Val or LDG. Everyone else was confirmed by someone else.

 

[VoidKitten]

Unvote:

We can give her the day. Scum will either shoot her or we will have her "cop check" and see who she picks and what she gets.

 

[VoidKitten]

Would Foxxi let scum be closeish to a victory, re-rand the game, and make the same person have to be scum again and start over?

That's just evil if so :D

 

[CWE]

Would Foxxi let scum be closeish to a victory, re-rand the game, and make the same person have to be scum again and start over?

That's just evil if so :D

Almost dastardly level evil?

 

[Satsu]

Is votecount in discord correct? Is there a double voter on ldg?

 

[CWE]

Vote: MTR

 

[CWE]

Almost dastardly level evil?

Bastard level.

And now my phone knows bastard. Why would a phone change basrard to dastardly? Fuck you Samsung.

 

[CWE]

Would Foxxi let scum be closeish to a victory, re-rand the game, and make the same person have to be scum again and start over?

That's just evil if so :D

Which would also explain why no one is owning up to being pre round 2.

 

[CWE]

I'm seriously talking myself into this...

 

[MitchRapp]

LDG - Claimed Cop
Mitch - Claimed TPR (I am more valuable alive - was hinting at actions it seemed like)

I am more valuable to town alive and if you lynch me you are no closer to victory.

Vote: MTR

Voting MTR would be a way to check LDG and not potentially lose the cop. However, I do hate the "I am taking my ball and going home attitude."

 

[MitchRapp]

I am heading into a meeting. I wont be around for a bit so I am moving my vote as it seems like a solid way to check and not possibly lose the cop.

Vote: MTR

 

[Badger]

Vote: MTR

Let’s check the info.

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: MTR

Let’s check the info.

Ew.

 

[VoidKitten]

Guys. How the fuck do you think LDG has info on MTR?

Jesus.

 

[VoidKitten]

Vote: MitchRapp

 

[CWE]

Ew.

Yup. Disgusting scummy Badger vote.
Regardless of flip.

 

[CWE]

Guys. How the fuck do you think LDG has info on MTR?

Jesus.

I don't.

 

[VoidKitten]

Like im not saying her whole train is for that reason

But unless Foxxi put in a Day Cop, there is no chance she has info on MTR for this re-rand.

 

[Badger]

Checking to see if info is legit is scummy?

 

[VoidKitten]

Checking to see if info is legit is scummy?

When its been stated there is no chance she has info, yup.

I've called like two people out on it already :D