Mafia 38 - Trouble Brewing

[GrumpyCat]

No reason not to. I cant nominate and i wont vote here. But if you could get him to 5 votes or so it would be beneficial.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Voting window is short. Need to pile up fast.

Dont nominate him pups he could be a virgin.

 

[Listo95]

So is there any reason not to nominate Matthieu?

I see no reason not to.

 

[3puppies]

Voting window is short. Need to pile up fast.

Dont nominate him pups he could be a virgin.

Why not me? As the librarian, I have no additional that I will gain. Other town roles can continue to get info that could be more useful. For example, I don't want CWE to nominate him, because if CWE is not the drunk, he will get more info for us.

Or is it the simple fact that since I am known town, we can get voting info from other claimed town who will nominate?

 

[Xanjori]

I legit dont think I get how to play this game mode. I still have no info, if 3puppies can guess my role he knows why and that should confirm what I am to him.

 

[Xanjori]

CWE the Fortune teller.

We demon hunting boys!!!

N1... Claws and 3pups. Both inno...

N2...Psycho and Nightmare Queen Miko. Both inno.

N3...Matthieu and Listo. Both inno.

Remaining alive unchecked

Xanjori
Blind Ninja

Dead unchecked

MTR
Grumpy

All that's left...

...

Unless I'm the drunk...then

Can this be true? Like it feels too many clears but like I said, fuck knows what this game mode is

 

[GrumpyCat]

Why not me? As the librarian, I have no additional that I will gain. Other town roles can continue to get info that could be more useful. For example, I don't want CWE to nominate him, because if CWE is not the drunk, he will get more info for us.

Or is it the simple fact that since I am known town, we can get voting info from other claimed town who will nominate?

I cant get info from my neighbours anymore. I would rather have you alive longer.

 

[3puppies]

Xan, the fact that you still have no info helps confirm to me what I think your role is.

BN, you have claimed washerwoman, so you won't learn any new info. Do you have reason NOT to nominate Matthieu?

 

[3puppies]

I cant get info from my neighbours anymore. I would rather have you alive longer.

Do you have thoughts/reads based on the private message I sent to you/CWE/MTR (these are the people I trust)

 

[GrumpyCat]

I never talked to MTR but I got you and CWE as town here. It could be like Psycho/Listo/Xan or even BN/Claws/LDG. But in the end just need to kill demon/lady and thats it.

 

[3puppies]

Can this be true? Like it feels too many clears but like I said, fuck knows what this game mode is

CWE, if not the drunk, as the Fortune Teller will only clear folks from being the Demon. They could be minions, or CWE could be poisoned and would be getting false info (if the poisoner exists and picked CWE)

 

[GrumpyCat]

Well if Xan is scum then they know for sure that CWE is a drunk and can live so long to spread false info.

 

[Blind Ninja]

But if 3pups is drunk then CWE results are real?
Unless there is poisoner that is not LDG that got CWE come night?
But that makes you or Xan demon ;p

I doubt 3pups is the drunk, since they were told librarian and given 2 people... is it completely off the table, no, just a lot lower on the list of possibilities (to me)

 

[3puppies]

Well if Xan is scum then they know for sure that CWE is a drunk and can live so long to spread false info.

Xan would not know that for sure , because I might be the drunk instead of CWE.

Would Xan know if either I or CWE was poisoned? I think this might depend on who he may have chatted with, and I am pretty sure I was the only one who chatted with Xanjori. I don't see anyone sharing information with him.

 

[Blind Ninja]

I legit dont think I get how to play this game mode. I still have no info, if 3puppies can guess my role he knows why and that should confirm what I am to him.

Not hard to guess when he talked to several people and most roles were already claimed. limits what you can be. So a guess out of the remaining roles people didnt state.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Xan would not know that for sure , because I might be the drunk instead of CWE.

Would Xan know if either I or CWE was poisoned? I think this might depend on who he may have chatted with, and I am pretty sure I was the only one who chatted with Xanjori. I don't see anyone sharing information with him.

Nobody, except the poisoner and mod, know who is selected on any given night (unless the poisoner tells the other minion and demon)

 

[Blind Ninja]

Without getting anything from Xan, since he hasnt claimed and isnt really driving towards solving... he is amongst those I trust the least.

Grumpy claimed empath, with Claws and 3pups not evil. I trust Grumpy. So I believe Claws and 3pups are town.
3pups claimed librarian with either CWE or Xan as Drunk.
CWE has been forthcoming with info and sharing what he "knows." Even if the drunk, has been helping and giving town vibes.
I know Im town.

This puts my PoE to Xan, listo, Matt, Psycho. I feel the Demon is in this cluster of 4.
NQM is unlikely to be demon, since not seen in thread or discord. Claimed PC issues to someone.

 

[3puppies]

Without getting anything from Xan, since he hasnt claimed and isnt really driving towards solving... he is amongst those I trust the least.

Grumpy claimed empath, with Claws and 3pups not evil. I trust Grumpy. So I believe Claws and 3pups are town.
3pups claimed librarian with either CWE or Xan as Drunk.
CWE has been forthcoming with info and sharing what he "knows." Even if the drunk, has been helping and giving town vibes.
I know Im town.

This puts my PoE to Xan, listo, Matt, Psycho. I feel the Demon is in this cluster of 4.
NQM is unlikely to be demon, since not seen in thread or discord. Claimed PC issues to someone.

We are pretty much on the same page, although I have gotten info privately claimed from Listo, and by POE and hints I have figured out Xanjori. Matt and Psycho are still TBD to me, and now that Psycho has started to try to solve - without sharing anything - I am thinking we want to press on Matt.

I asked you earlier if you would have a problem nominating Matthiew. Grumpy does not want me to do the nomination. I feel it should be someone who won't learn anything new based on our roles. So, would you nominate Matthieu?

 

[Claws]

I still wanna hang xan the bastard

 

[Claws]

But i can see a mattieu logic would be interesting to at least push

 

[Blind Ninja]

We are pretty much on the same page, although I have gotten info privately claimed from Listo, and by POE and hints I have figured out Xanjori. Matt and Psycho are still TBD to me, and now that Psycho has started to try to solve - without sharing anything - I am thinking we want to press on Matt.

I asked you earlier if you would have a problem nominating Matthiew. Grumpy does not want me to do the nomination. I feel it should be someone who won't learn anything new based on our roles. So, would you nominate Matthieu?

I see Matt as the least intersting of those to push. I also have a feeling of how he would respond. Not something I want to pursue at this moment.

Are you willing to share listo's role?
or point out the hints that allowed you to guess at Xans role?

Why Matt over Psycho? I do agree with someone that cant learn anything new should nominate people we know nothing about (in case of virgin)

I still wanna hang xan the bastard

But i can see a mattieu logic would be interesting to at least push

Aside from wanting to hang Xan, any other opinions? How do you feel about the PoE leading to Psycho, NQM, listo, Matt, Xan?

 

[Xanjori]

Nominate Matt

We've wasted literally every day phase, lets start doing something

 

[Foxxi]

The trial of Matthieu has begun
you have until 4:20am est to cast your votes​

 

[3puppies]

I see Matt as the least intersting of those to push. I also have a feeling of how he would respond. Not something I want to pursue at this moment.

Are you willing to share listo's role?
or point out the hints that allowed you to guess at Xans role?

Why Matt over Psycho? I do agree with someone that cant learn anything new should nominate people we know nothing about (in case of virgin)




Aside from wanting to hang Xan, any other opinions? How do you feel about the PoE leading to Psycho, NQM, listo, Matt, Xan?

If the POE leads to Psycho, NQM, Listo, Matt, and Xan, I have unsupported info in Listo and Xanjori. I think NQM is the virgin.

Listo can share his claimed role with you privately, if he trusts you. I am more inclined to trust you because of what you shared with me earlier, and the fact that you are trying to solve.

As for Xanjori's potential role, he made a comment about not having gotten information, so by looking at the other town roles and process of elimination based on what I had learned from discussions with others, there was only 1 that I thought he could still be.

As for why Matt over Psycho, we had already tried on Psycho and got nowhere. I would nominate him again but my concern is that we'd get nowhere again, and looking back, based on what he knew at the time he nominated me, I could actually see his logic - he just didn't know that both Grumpy and CWE had info that cleared me (and of course, he didn't know what I had learned from my private discussions with several others).

Matt has done nothing to help.

Vote: YES on Matthieu

 

[3puppies]

Note that Xanjori did not die by nominating Mattthieu, so Matt is not the virgin

 

[Blind Ninja]

Note that Xanjori did not die by nominating Mattthieu, so Matt is not the virgin

Or Xan is demon, minion or outsider...

 

[3puppies]

Note that Xanjori did not die by nominating Mattthieu, so Matt is not the virgin

EBWOP - I don't think Matt is the virgin, but if Matt was the Virgin, it would mean that Xan is an outsider (not possible), minion or demon. I think the evil would rather sit back, and delay the activity, instead of leading a nomination for our first execution.

 

[Blind Ninja]

EBWOP - I don't think Matt is the virgin, but if Matt was the Virgin, it would mean that Xan is an outsider (not possible), minion or demon. I think the evil would rather sit back, and delay the activity, instead of leading a nomination for our first execution.

By your own information, Xan has 50% chance of being an outsider (drunk)

 

[3puppies]

Derp. I guess I just don't think Matt is the virgin, because I strongly believe it is NQM. BN, would you message me with thoughts on who you think several roles you don't know might be? I am trying to conserve my messages - I have already sent one of my three to MTR/Grumpy/CWE, so maybe you can randomize it with a key code, so then I could reply here in your code, without having to use another message.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Derp. I guess I just don't think Matt is the virgin, because I strongly believe it is NQM. BN, would you message me with thoughts on who you think several roles you don't know might be? I am trying to conserve my messages - I have already sent one of my three to MTR/Grumpy/CWE, so maybe you can randomize it with a key code, so then I could reply here in your code, without having to use another message.

I havent talked to most the player base in private chats like you. I dont have a feel for whats out there, aside from what has been claimed or told to me in chats.

My only concern revolves around very large quantities of tinfoil.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm probably gonna be MIA tonight but I'll try to catch up when it's late before I go to sleep

Also, am I understanding right that we'll NEVER get a role reveal this game?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Also, I'd like to abstain from claiming for now if possible, but if people feel they need it/I think it's relevant I'll happily share.

I can say I don't get overnight info. I'm also happy to claim in private like I did Claws(provided I don't think you're a demon/minion)

 

[Blind Ninja]

@Matthieu Why should i vote no on you?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

CWE is probably the #1 person I trust to claim to at this point (also 3pups should basically be confirmed unless Grumpy is scum)

 

[Claws]

I see Matt as the least intersting of those to push. I also have a feeling of how he would respond. Not something I want to pursue at this moment.

Are you willing to share listo's role?
or point out the hints that allowed you to guess at Xans role?

Why Matt over Psycho? I do agree with someone that cant learn anything new should nominate people we know nothing about (in case of virgin)




Aside from wanting to hang Xan, any other opinions? How do you feel about the PoE leading to Psycho, NQM, listo, Matt, Xan?

Lazy fethwipes could toss all of them sept psycho i believe in him and if he is bad ill eat a sock

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Also just looking at the nomination, I low-key kinda thought Matthieu was scummy early on but didn't wanna push it day 1 because in my brain he's still "just returned" even though that's probably not true since I've skipped some games

Got no reason currently to trust him

 

[Claws]

Also just looking at the nomination, I low-key kinda thought Matthieu was scummy early on but didn't wanna push it day 1 because in my brain he's still "just returned" even though that's probably not true since I've skipped some games

Got no reason currently to trust him

we havent played games in what feels like 2 months

 

[Blind Ninja]

Also, I'd like to abstain from claiming for now if possible, but if people feel they need it/I think it's relevant I'll happily share.

I can say I don't get overnight info. I'm also happy to claim in private like I did Claws(provided I don't think you're a demon/minion)

Feel free to send me that claim if you trust me to be town. I may have some questions or want to converse about it in thread after. Obviously without revealing what you tell me

 

[Blind Ninja]

Lazy fethwipes could toss all of them sept psycho i believe in him and if he is bad ill eat a sock

Care to share what you know? Id say its impossible with what you told me.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Also just looking at the nomination, I low-key kinda thought Matthieu was scummy early on but didn't wanna push it day 1 because in my brain he's still "just returned" even though that's probably not true since I've skipped some games

Got no reason currently to trust him

we havent played games in what feels like 2 months

Its been several months. The pasta game ended early july. Some of us have been out longer. I know i didnt play the pasta game

 

[Blind Ninja]

So Matt got put on trial around 9pm his time. its now 11ish... something tells me we likely wont hear from him til his morning and the voting time will be done.

 

[3puppies]

I'm probably gonna be MIA tonight but I'll try to catch up when it's late before I go to sleep

Also, am I understanding right that we'll NEVER get a role reveal this game?

There is potentially a role out there that can provide information about a player who has been executed. Although, I don't know if the poisoner affects them.

We can get a reveal on the virgin, but only if a town person nominates them.

Other than that, a claim and a verify are about as close to what we will get.

I have a decent idea as to what role you might claim. If you are going to send a PM to confirm it for me, send it at the same time you send it to CWE as you think he's clean, too. Private Messages are not like chat earlier - we only get three total messages we can send.

 

[Claws]

Care to share what you know? Id say its impossible with what you told me.

I shared all i know minus psychos role which ive been sworn to the highest of secercy

 

[Blind Ninja]

I shared all i know minus psychos role which ive been sworn to the highest of secercy

I havent seen you share your role in thread or that info. I could share it for you, but you asked me not to

 

[Matthieu]

Look elsewhere, please.

I'm the Soldier.

I admit I do not have any meaningful information to bring to the table, so if you really want to get rid of me...well, I'm not going to waste too much time putting up a heavy resistance.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Look elsewhere, please.

I'm the Soldier.

I admit I do not have any meaningful information to bring to the table, so if you really want to get rid of me...well, I'm not going to waste too much time putting up a heavy resistance.

Hard to look elsewhere, when you are sitting back and doing nothing. No attempts to solve. This feels like "let me claim something nobody else has so far"

 

[Matthieu]

Hard to look elsewhere, when you are sitting back and doing nothing. No attempts to solve. This feels like "let me claim something nobody else has so far"

Yeah, I haven't brought much to the table because I haven't played in months and this is a pretty complex game. My role is also passive, so I have leaned into that.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Yeah, I haven't brought much to the table because I haven't played in months and this is a pretty complex game. My role is also passive, so I have leaned into that.

I havent played in months either... has your goal just been "survival" and not engagement?

 

[Matthieu]

I havent played in months either... has your goal just been "survival" and not engagement?

My goal was to serve as bait, which is also why I didn't want to take part in a mass claim as it would gut my role's effectiveness considerably.

 

[3puppies]

Matthieu, you've played with many of the gang here. Do you have an inkling as to who may be lying?

 

[Claws]

I havent seen you share your role in thread or that info. I could share it for you, but you asked me not to

why is sharing it in thread relevant it just opens up others as better targets you dummy

 

[Listo95]

Vote: Aye

As of now we only have about 5hrs until voting ends. I know it is not me. And as Xan said we need to start actually lynching people.

 

[Xanjori]

Imma go to bed. Its obviously possible Matts tellnig the truth but his role is also one of the best fake claims if Im understanding it correctly

Vote: Aye

 

[Blind Ninja]

2 people I distrust voting yes...

 

[Listo95]

2 people I distrust voting yes...

*shrug* We kinda need to start lynching people cause otherwise the demon could run away with the game.