Mafia 38 - Trouble Brewing

[3puppies]

BN cannot nominate again today. I am thinking NQM should nominate Claws, as the proven liar. Votes or non-votes will prove useful.

Perhaps some of us dead town should vote as well, saving enough of us for the final.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Lets say there are 3 town 3 scum right now majority is 4. If those are tied votes we get no lynch, so we would need 5. That requires 2 dead player votes already. I would have to see how many votes it would leave us with for tommorow.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I am thinking NQM should nominate Claws, as the proven liar.

I still don't see Claws as a demon, I am not using my last vote on that one.

 

[3puppies]

I still don't see Claws as a demon, I am not using my last vote on that one.

Do you believe Claws is a minion? I am thinking Claws is the poisoner. I do not believe that Claw is the chef.

Secondly, once Listo publicly identified as the slayer, why wouldn't the demon try to take him out ASAP? Yet, they chose to take me out. The scum team knows who is on their team, so they knew I was not a threat.

This is making me feel that Listo is lying about being the slayer. I think it was a safe role. I'd be willing to risk my last vote on it, if it would preserve @Nightmare Queen Miko and her ability to nominate.

 

[Blind Ninja]

First, I was clearly wrong about your role, as I thought you were the virgin.

Second, this makes Claws evil for sure, and someone working with Claws.

@BN, did you mention to Claws that I shared with you that Grumpy was the empath, and had cleared me and Claws? If so, that would have let Claws know he would have to keep poisoning Grumpy until Grumpy's death.

NQM did not have private chats with anyone. She would not have known she needed to kill Grumpy to keep Claws alive.

I didnt share information that wasnt directly shared with me and OK'd to pass on... you did do that.

If we look at the possibilities alive with 1 pair, would be Matt/Listo, BN/Psycho.

Seeing as NQM doesnt generally lie and gets upset when people imply that she does... Put claws in my firing line. And I know im town, so matt/listo.

@Nightmare Queen Miko Im sorry I nominated you, but you also ignored several of my questions... some of which occurred after you entered the thread. If you want some vindication, Id suggest putting Claws up for nomination... or if you really dont trust me, put me up

 

[Blind Ninja]

I guess I did miss the other possibilities. I was working on the assumption of dead people were town.

We could also have @PsychoSoldier nominate if you feel he is more then likely town now

 

[3puppies]

I didnt share information that wasnt directly shared with me and OK'd to pass on... you did do that.

If we look at the possibilities alive with 1 pair, would be Matt/Listo, BN/Psycho.

Seeing as NQM doesnt generally lie and gets upset when people imply that she does... Put claws in my firing line. And I know im town, so matt/listo.

@Nightmare Queen Miko Im sorry I nominated you, but you also ignored several of my questions... some of which occurred after you entered the thread. If you want some vindication, Id suggest putting Claws up for nomination... or if you really dont trust me, put me up

But what I am asking of you, is that did you tell Claws that your role pointed to Claws and NQM as possible spots for the chef? Who mentioned chef first, in your conversation between you and claws? Because you had shared to me that because of your info, certain spots where you thought evil had to be hiding, it was clear to me that you had gotten info from Claws, which meant an answer to the pairs question, the only thing that the chef would know. So to me, that meant Claws must have claimed the chef role to you.

Claws only shared publicly his role once he had been nominated.

I shared info when asked, that I had, unless I was told not to, or told someone I would not share it. Sharing info is how we can catch evil pretenders in lies. But I understand now that this may not have been a good idea, as it made the possibilities clearer for who the demon should target.

Anyway, what do you, @Nightmare Queen Miko and @PsychoSoldier think about my thoughts about Listo and the role of the slayer? Wouldn't that be a smarter target for the demon instead of me?, The slayer is a threat while the librarian is not.

 

[Blind Ninja]

But what I am asking of you, is that did you tell Claws that your role pointed to Claws and NQM as possible spots for the chef? Who mentioned chef first, in your conversation between you and claws? Because you had shared to me that because of your info, certain spots where you thought evil had to be hiding, it was clear to me that you had gotten info from Claws, which meant an answer to the pairs question, the only thing that the chef would know. So to me, that meant Claws must have claimed the chef role to you.

Claws only shared publicly his role once he had been nominated.

I shared info when asked, that I had, unless I was told not to, or told someone I would not share it. Sharing info is how we can catch evil pretenders in lies. But I understand now that this may not have been a good idea, as it made the possibilities clearer for who the demon should target.

Anyway, what do you, @Nightmare Queen Miko and @PsychoSoldier think about my thoughts about Listo and the role of the slayer? Wouldn't that be a smarter target for the demon instead of me?, The slayer is a threat while the librarian is not.

Those D1 chats are closed and I dont recall exactly what was said. I remember him claiming chef and saying 0 pairs and asking me not to share that information. I dont think I said what role I knew to him, but i could be wrong. This is nearly 2 weeks ago at this point.

Claws did wait an extended period of time to out his information to the thread.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Honestly thinking the team is Matt, listo, Claws... once NQM was nominated, all 3 were somewhat quick to yes with nothing much added.

 

[Nightmare Queen Miko]

There's a demon in one of them.

 

[3puppies]

Hoping we get another nomination soon. I don't want an innocent kill followed by another kill tonight, then tomorrow the scum controls the nominations by posting early in the day, locking the nominations.

Considering I have a 1/7 chance of hitting the demon I’m more likely to have nothing happen when I shoot.

This was Listo publicly claiming.

 

[Blind Ninja]

There's a demon in one of them.

Are you willing to nominate someone, so we can vote them potentially beyond your 4. We could still keep you in the game if that happens

 

[Blind Ninja]

Hoping we get another nomination soon. I don't want an innocent kill followed by another kill tonight, then tomorrow the scum controls the nominations by posting early in the day, locking the nominations.


This was Listo publicly claiming.

That could also have been one of the safe claims the demon had.

I didnt look into who all talked with who... we had 7 town and 11 town roles. Its possible scum coordinated early enough to all have safe claims

 

[3puppies]

@Listo95 - If you are the slayer as you claimed to be, I think the only possibility for NQM's info to be true is for MTR and Matthieu to be the evils. So I see no reason for you not to use your role and take out Matthieu. Otherwise, you're clearly going to be targeted this evening.

@Nightmare Queen Miko, you should nominate either one of Matthieu or Listo. From your perspective, I believe this would give town the best chance to win.

 

[GrumpyCat]

You know that if listo is a slayer then he knows that evil (Matt) cant be next to them ;p

 

[GrumpyCat]

Otherwise, you're clearly going to be targeted this evening.

There was no healer last night too, and he would rather risk getting killed then try ;> And for reasons scum would rather take you out than him.

 

[GrumpyCat]

You know that if listo is a slayer then he knows that evil (Matt) cant be next to them ;p

OK yeah, it could have been MTR/Matt. Not impossible at all.

 

[Matthieu]

I'm increasingly confident that NQM is the correct target and this convenient second guessing is a hail mary attempt to try and save her.

 

[Nightmare Queen Miko]

Jesus Christ.

 

[Claws]

Vote: i nominate psycho

 

[Foxxi]

The trial of psycho has begun
Trial ends at 6:20am est​

 

[3puppies]

Vote: i nominate psycho

Why? Only to prevent another nomination that would save NQM? Since scum wont vote you ran out the clock?

 

[Claws]

Why? Only to prevent another nomination that would save NQM? Since scum wont vote you ran out the clock?

if you think i dont know how to play please refer to the rules on page one i know what im doing and for bloody sake get a lil backbone and quit whining

 

[Claws]

i trust bn way more then i trust psycho who pops in and out

 

[Claws]

your welcome to vote psycho and save nqm if you like

 

[Nightmare Queen Miko]

Vote: Psycho
Where is he

 

[Blind Ninja]

Why? Only to prevent another nomination that would save NQM? Since scum wont vote you ran out the clock?

It should be obvious that he is scum trying to ensure a town elimination with this action...

 

[3puppies]

It should be obvious that he is scum trying to ensure a town elimination with this action...

Yes, it was completely obvious to me that Claws is scum with this action. I think Matt is the demon.

Claws' nomination of Psycho is contradictory to the information the NQM shared, that is, there is a pair of evil sitting next to one another.

 

[3puppies]

I'm increasingly confident that NQM is the correct target and this convenient second guessing is a hail mary attempt to try and save her.

This reads terribly scummy. The second guessing is coming from people that have all been killed.

 

[Matthieu]

This reads terribly scummy. The second guessing is coming from people that have all been killed.

Blind Ninja isn't dead...

 

[Xanjori]

Blind Ninja isn't dead...

Ok but there are another 3 or so of us that strongly disagreed with NMQ and we cant all be evils (I think)

 

[Nightmare Queen Miko]

Just vote him already

 

[PsychoSoldier]

We'll get them tomorrow

 

[Foxxi]

The day ends. NQM is eliminated. Night Six deadline Wednesday 15th @8am est

Claws sent a message to Listo
Claws sent a message to NQM
Claws sent a message to Matthieu
Pups sent a message to Psycho
Psycho sent a message to Pups

 

[Foxxi]

There's only so many ways one can say it's morning. The moon goes to sleep I guess? Anyhoo, psych's dead.

Day Six deadline: Friday 17th 8am est

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Nominate Claws

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Oh, I don't think I can nominate as dead? Lol

 

[Blind Ninja]

Nominate: Claws

 

[Xanjori]

Honestly town deserve this loss for doing nothing all game and then letting god awful executions go off at the end.

 

[Xanjori]

Vote: Yes

 

[Blind Ninja]

@Listo95 If you truly are the slayer, Target Matt

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: Yes

 

[Foxxi]

The Trial of Claws has begun
With four living players, three votes are required to eliminate. Voting phase ends at 8:10pm est​

 

[Claws]

Oh, I don't think I can nominate as dead? Lol

 

[Claws]

Its def bn get him boyz

 

[Claws]

You need 5 better git gud

 

[GrumpyCat]

How is he dead. Can poisoned mayor be killed or what?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Vote: yes

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: Yes

 

[Xanjori]

Vote: Yes

 

[Foxxi]

That is three votes. Claws will be eliminated at the end of the day. Voting remains open until 8:10pm est

 

[Foxxi]

Actually, I'm just going to call it here since anything past this point won't effect the outcome. There are no other living townsfolk left to nominate the Demon.

Congratulations to the Demon and it's Minions:
Listo, Claws, Matthieu!!!
​

Listo playing as: The Imp
Claws playing as: The Spy
Matthieu playing as: The Poisoner

Our Townsfolk-
Psycho playing as The Mayor
MTR playing as The Monk
Xanjori playing as The Undertaker
NQM playing as The Chef
3Pups playing as The Librarian
Grumpy playing as The Empath
And..
CWE as our outsider The Drunk who thought he was the Fortune Teller

 

[Xanjori]

I honestly dunno how we fucked that up.

We all agreed on me/BN/Listo/Matt as a good POE and then we executed me and NQM even once Claws was caught in a lie. Like its actually impressive

 

[Claws]

I honestly dunno how we fucked that up.

We all agreed on me/BN/Listo/Matt as a good POE and then we executed me and NQM even once Claws was caught in a lie. Like its actually impressive

You had it right you guys werent willing to take risks basically you just demon hunt and ignore minions im surpised i was nominated today as grumpy was pretty spot on that i was the spy