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Unvote: Mitch

Fair enough. There's still the possibility that this is a ballsy play and both Mitch and Xan are on the same team but for now I'm not willing to pursue that theory and I think Mitch's reactions to being questioned are more in line with how he plays as town as opposed to scum.
 

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I would say there is likely some sort of bus driver in play that would have changed up my results.
 

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I would say there is likely some sort of bus driver in play that would have changed up my results.
Yes how dare they take me out of my house while I was sleeping. This is kidnapping!! We need to find this fiend and get them arrested!
 

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Yes how dare they take me out of my house while I was sleeping. This is kidnapping!! We need to find this fiend and get them arrested!
Is that a weed i see on your lawn the hoa comittee wont take dearly to thier leader not following protocall. rules for thee but not for me dont fly in this nieghborhood
 

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Is that a weed i see on your lawn the hoa comittee wont take dearly to thier leader not following protocall. rules for thee but not for me dont fly in this nieghborhood
No. That weed is .025cm off my property and on Xan’s.
 

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If Mitch is somehow a tracker that is also evil, this would be the third time in as many games I'm pretty sure. I get the logic of picking the same person twice in a row, especially when the first one failed. It being confirmed helps as well.

Xanjori I feel okay with currently. I had mild concerns initially, but they went away even though I was getting nervous towards the end of last day.

I want to say Future's defense feels pure. I had a mental image of him actually speaking the words and it feels like its how he'd say it.

One thing I have been pondering with the duplicate roles is if Mazer went part of the Foxxi route and gave scum roles that could also be town. He seems to be giving a fuck you to information this game, though, I can make some educated guesses on whose characters are associated with the players. Unfortunately, I can't give anything concrete as I can't rule anyone out myself or confirm it.

@Blind Ninja I see you have been asking a bunch of people for their thoughts. What are yours? Where do you want to go today?

For myself, I am leaning Claws still. It's lessened slightly by him not knowing how many posts im supposed to make. Though, it should have been really obvious but does Claws actually play dumb?

I could probably be convinced to do Jarrod or Listo. The former because of other's comments and feels, and the latter based on him not even answering the question I wanted him to answer when I asked it the other day about vote train analysis.

Day 2 is more of a wash because there was an early catch on Morri by Val, but Day 1 has information on the vote train I feel and I am curious to see what Listo makes of it.

Though writing this makes me wonder how many scum started this game.

16 player game. Typical Rajah format is scum heavy. I'd say between 4-6 scum, but leaning between 4-5. Maybe 6 if there is an evil third party as the 6th

We killed Morrison and let's say no evil because that fucks the numbers up even more.

10 Players Alive (1 scum dead and 5 town)

That would make it either 7/3 or 6/4. If there are three scum left, we have two misyeets, assuming the standard 1 kill per night going forward (i know we had two, but those are usually one shot. Or another killer type. If its another killer, all of this can be disregarded -.-). If there are 4 left, then today is mylo.
 

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Its snowing out :cry:
No snow here, though the ground is completely frozen with frost. I'm going to have to wear an extra layer when I go out tomorrow.

It did get to -6 last night, so snow shouldn't be far off if stays like this.
 

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No snow here, though the ground is completely frozen with frost. I'm going to have to wear an extra layer when I go out tomorrow.

It did get to -6 last night, so snow shouldn't be far off if stays like this.
We had snow but not hott enough to stay not til next tuesday i think it hits 0 and we will be full blown into winter
 

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If Mitch is somehow a tracker that is also evil, this would be the third time in as many games I'm pretty sure. I get the logic of picking the same person twice in a row, especially when the first one failed. It being confirmed helps as well.

Xanjori I feel okay with currently. I had mild concerns initially, but they went away even though I was getting nervous towards the end of last day.

I want to say Future's defense feels pure. I had a mental image of him actually speaking the words and it feels like its how he'd say it.

One thing I have been pondering with the duplicate roles is if Mazer went part of the Foxxi route and gave scum roles that could also be town. He seems to be giving a fuck you to information this game, though, I can make some educated guesses on whose characters are associated with the players. Unfortunately, I can't give anything concrete as I can't rule anyone out myself or confirm it.

@Blind Ninja I see you have been asking a bunch of people for their thoughts. What are yours? Where do you want to go today?

For myself, I am leaning Claws still. It's lessened slightly by him not knowing how many posts im supposed to make. Though, it should have been really obvious but does Claws actually play dumb?

I could probably be convinced to do Jarrod or Listo. The former because of other's comments and feels, and the latter based on him not even answering the question I wanted him to answer when I asked it the other day about vote train analysis.

Day 2 is more of a wash because there was an early catch on Morri by Val, but Day 1 has information on the vote train I feel and I am curious to see what Listo makes of it.

Though writing this makes me wonder how many scum started this game.

16 player game. Typical Rajah format is scum heavy. I'd say between 4-6 scum, but leaning between 4-5. Maybe 6 if there is an evil third party as the 6th

We killed Morrison and let's say no evil because that fucks the numbers up even more.

10 Players Alive (1 scum dead and 5 town)

That would make it either 7/3 or 6/4. If there are three scum left, we have two misyeets, assuming the standard 1 kill per night going forward (i know we had two, but those are usually one shot. Or another killer type. If its another killer, all of this can be disregarded -.-). If there are 4 left, then today is mylo.
I have disliked jarrods defense also is listo gunna karen this whole game doesnt add much its hilarious tho

Idk why you lean me i typically dont play dumb i dont feel like i am here either

its odd no1s taken a shot at you tho also im having a hard time believeing this post restriction crap why give you that for whole game seems silly O well
 

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I will have you all know I was very occupied last night and couldn’t do anything because someone decided to kidnap me!
 

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Honestly why cant every1 just give there actual thoughts and poes instead of being afk silent yall just like the work handed to you in a read up and thats not really mafia work your brains a little.

In jarrods case he knows i hate answers like "your wrong" or "im town your pushing the wrong person" ect

But i wanna know why you are town make me believe in the town you
 

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I'm willing to vote for Jarrod. His name is coming up fairly often, just like Morrison, who turned out to be the right call.

Vote: Jarrod
 

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Honestly why cant every1 just give there actual thoughts and poes instead of being afk silent yall just like the work handed to you in a read up and thats not really mafia work your brains a little.

In jarrods case he knows i hate answers like "your wrong" or "im town your pushing the wrong person" ect

But i wanna know why you are town make me believe in the town you
I just don't have any super helpful information. The write ups haven't been super helpful in my view but I get it, the finger was pointed already so let's get them.

I'd definitely look at the pool of people so eager to nix me. Surely one knows I'm town because they're in scum chat.
 

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I just don't have any super helpful information. The write ups haven't been super helpful in my view but I get it, the finger was pointed already so let's get them.

I'd definitely look at the pool of people so eager to nix me. Surely one knows I'm town because they're in scum chat.
Which one?
 

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I demand to speak to the manager if the universe btw. We had a possible paradox last night!!
 

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Which one?
I feel like Matthieu voting because he's seen my name fairly often felt like a scum statement built in excuse for when it fails.

Xan voting fairly early for me this phase could be scum hoping to remind who was talked about last phase and maybe get a target on a town early enough that's who gets lynched by day phase end.
 

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I feel like Matthieu voting because he's seen my name fairly often felt like a scum statement built in excuse for when it fails.
How? I don't even know what the hell I'm doing this game, so how could you possibly know my motives?
 

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@Blind Ninja I see you have been asking a bunch of people for their thoughts. What are yours? Where do you want to go today?
My initial thoughts go to Future. As much as you may like the tone of his responses today, still feels low effort. Feels in line with his scum game.



I also want to circle back to my thoughts of how many scum jumped early on the Morri train, since it was explicit deets.

morri (8)-val, matt, claws, jarrod, future, mitch, void, psych

We know Val is dead town cop/tracker. We know Psych is dead town hider.

Where would scum jump on this knowing the guy is cooked? Has me sitting Claws, Jarrod, Future
 

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I just don't have any super helpful information. The write ups haven't been super helpful in my view but I get it, the finger was pointed already so let's get them.

I'd definitely look at the pool of people so eager to nix me. Surely one knows I'm town because they're in scum chat.
You say you have no information, but you also arent giving your opinions on anything. And as Claws has said, "im town" and "im not scum" being your only defense, doesnt really resonate.

What are your reads? Who do you think is scum and why?
 

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Interested to hear about it, and any reads you have
I tried to use my action on Xan last night, because of what appears to be a drive in me and him I used my action on myself. By using it in myself I couldn’t actually use my action last night.
 

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I was going to vote Mitch but he slightly convinced me, but 2 trackers in a game is weird
Have you looked at the roles that flipped?

Cop/Doc
1shot killer
Hider
Watcher
Cop/Tracker

2 Cops but you dont think 2 trackers is possible? I wouldnt be surprised if someone flips Tracker/Doc.



Who do you think are scum and why?
 

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You say you have no information, but you also arent giving your opinions on anything. And as Claws has said, "im town" and "im not scum" being your only defense, doesnt really resonate.

What are your reads? Who do you think is scum and why?
I gave those opinions above in post 527 on things I felt were off.

This is just how I play, sorry it offends or irritates so many people. I'm definitely not the one to scrutinize every little post and I've made that clear before. You just aren't ever going to get a major break down of things from me but if I notice something I feel is off or have pertinent info I will post it and dig in on it.
 

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Have you looked at the roles that flipped?

Cop/Doc
1shot killer
Hider
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Cop/Tracker

2 Cops but you dont think 2 trackers is possible? I wouldnt be surprised if someone flips Tracker/Doc.
There could be a couple JOATs running around too if he's mixing things like a cop/tracker or cop/doc.
 

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I personally do not like how Listo has been replying back to things. The only points in his favor are the fact he dropped the gimmick to actually answer a question directly. He is giving a bunch of comments but no substance to it.

The fact he is iffy on Xan when I am less concerned doesn't sit well. That being said, apparently I feel like the only one with some thoughts.

I think, just based on responses here, that Jarrod or Listo have a high likelihood to be a hit. Possibly both.

Of Listo, Jarrod, and Claws I am trying to figure out if any seem more or less aligned with Morrison since he is really the focal point that we have.

Claws has one post that I've said looks bad and it irks me. Otherwise his posting seems more or less himself, but this post will drive me nuts and im trying not to read into it like i usually do.

Listo didn't vote for Morri or LDG on Day 1 and ended up not voting during Day 2. No real association with Morrison that I could see.

Jarrod voted for LDG on Day 1 and Morrison on D2, after the info came out. Future did too actually. I wasn't ISOing him, but saw it right after Jarrod posted too. Jarrod's posts where he calls people pal always feels NAI, but i am wondering if he does it more as town than scum. I just haven't played with him as much and may be being colored by other's suspicions.

My gut is leaning Listo right now and where I plan to go. Unless it changes while I continue to read.
 

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I feel like Matthieu voting because he's seen my name fairly often felt like a scum statement built in excuse for when it fails.

Xan voting fairly early for me this phase could be scum hoping to remind who was talked about last phase and maybe get a target on a town early enough that's who gets lynched by day phase end.
So into Day 3... your only reads are OMGUS. What substance.
 

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I’m just like go ahead and vote me. I get to go be a Karen ghost. Something in my favor is obviously me not reaching the post/vote requirement last phase. I genuinely went to sleep the night before thinking we had another 24hrs left. If I had a team they would have gotten hold of me to get my posts in.
 

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We get it, but this is now the 2nd time ive pinged him and youve responded. Why dont you let him talk about the situation.
Hey I'm sure he will. I wouldn't have even commented if it didn't involve my name but it does so excuse me if I don't have something to say about it.
 

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It's not omgus. I have reasons behind why I think that but whatever you want to say pal.
your reasoning for the 2 people in 527 are because they voted or are considering voting you... how is that not OMGUS. What other reasoning do you have for those people that wasnt in 527
 

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your reasoning for the 2 people in 527 are because they voted or are considering voting you... how is that not OMGUS. What other reasoning do you have for those people that wasnt in 527
It's the context on how I see it. You're dumbing it down. I'm saying if I was omgusing I could have went after CWE or Psycho previously but i felt like they were town trying to figure things out. I feel like Matt is using others opinions to vote for me and was using that as a excuse in his vote post knowing im town and its a bad vote. I felt like Xan was trying to capitalize on the day phase beforehand target on me to push me. I don't consider that they voted for me so I'm voting them. I feel like its two separate examples and in my view it's not omgus.

Just vote me off if you have such a issue with how I play or how little I contribute or how I view things.
 

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It's the context on how I see it. You're dumbing it down. I'm saying if I was omgusing I could have went after CWE or Psycho previously but i felt like they were town trying to figure things out. I feel like Matt is using others opinions to vote for me and was using that as a excuse in his vote post knowing im town and its a bad vote. I felt like Xan was trying to capitalize on the day phase beforehand target on me to push me. I don't consider that they voted for me so I'm voting them. I feel like its two separate examples and in my view it's not omgus.

Just vote me off if you have such a issue with how I play or how little I contribute or how I view things.
Now if you explained it to this degree the 1st time, I wouldnt have seen it as MOGUS. But with the brief comment about either, with them voting or willing to vote you, can you blame me for it appearing that way?

Ive voted off others for not contributing, so it wouldnt be past me to add a vote to you for the same reason.

What is preventing you from posting your opinions on people? or having more fleshed out reads on more people?
 

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im so over this fight fuck queen >;C

We would fucking love to just get past P1 at this point with no fucking deaths.
Clean P1 is important, so the grps can learn whats needed on the platforms.... then that phase is important to be clean so you have max number of people for final phase.

Takes a little bit, especially if you have people who are not capable of playing clean
 

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Have you looked at the roles that flipped?

Cop/Doc
1shot killer
Hider
Watcher
Cop/Tracker

2 Cops but you dont think 2 trackers is possible? I wouldnt be surprised if someone flips Tracker/Doc.



Who do you think are scum and why?
Okay. I also noticed how wrongly I worded my message when EN and ON trackers exist (which is not the case this game)

Jarrod has been not doing a great job, pretty low effort and slacking. I’m gonna lean off Mitch for right now.

Probably Claws is a gut feeling, he would be the kind of person to kill MTR and blame it on me
 

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Okay. I also noticed how wrongly I worded my message when EN and ON trackers exist (which is not the case this game)

Jarrod has been not doing a great job, pretty low effort and slacking. I’m gonna lean off Mitch for right now.

Probably Claws is a gut feeling, he would be the kind of person to kill MTR and blame it on me
i havent accused you but cool story BRO
 

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Did I vote? I cant remember. Sorry about quieter day snow here has caused me to have fun work times and Im knackered.

BNs felt kinda towny on this page tbh.

I do think CWE+Void are both town.
 

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*shrug*
I have a bunch of meh 1shot abilities: Hide, Commute, RB, BG, day kill/lynch protection.
 

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His response was weak as always
Weak is harsh. Jarrod is "weak" as scum not trying to rock the boat.

As town, he's...what's the best way to say it...reserved maybe?

You could argue it's the same thing, but I'm not feeling the Jarrod vote in my liver right now.
 

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We would fucking love to just get past P1 at this point with no fucking deaths.
It all comes down to efficient movement and that's going to play heavily into P2 and P3 as well. There's a lot of need for situational awareness - P2 summons orbs around players for example that burst outwards and need to be avoided, so a lot of stuff comes down to not only looking for mechanics affecting you but everyone around you as well.

Is your team standing behind the queen or to her side during P1? The poison pools and webs start dealing damage almost as soon as they begin spawning so it's important to keep them out of the path people are running through as otherwise that's a lot of extra damage going around.

*shrug*
I have a bunch of meh 1shot abilities: Hide, Commute, RB, BG, day kill/lynch protection.
So you're third party? A survivor?
 

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I think this is the current vote count. 6 is majority

Jarrod - 2 (Xanjori #491, Matthieu #520)
Listo - 2 (MitchRapp #543, CWE #568)
FutureHold - 1 (Jarrod #575)

Listo dropped the gimmick completely and claimed to be a town JOAT. Jarrod didn't claim, but I am wondering if he softed a claim at some point, but I don't want to say it just to give him an idea if I am reading too far into it. Of note however, Jarrod did not vote Listo who is the save myself choice and decided to with FutureHold. Listo, on the other hand, still did not vote today and has cast one vote all game, if I am correct.

Claws and Jarrod seemingly dislike Future the most, whereas I felt his defense this day was more towny than not.
 

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I would be willing to move to FH. Jarrod I am up in the air about. Nothing is jumping off the page at me right now which means I am probably being hoodwinked by BlindNinja again.
 

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Weak is harsh. Jarrod is "weak" as scum not trying to rock the boat.

As town, he's...what's the best way to say it...reserved maybe?

You could argue it's the same thing, but I'm not feeling the Jarrod vote in my liver right now.
Reserved is good that aside tho he still needs to put more work into why hes town vs im just town
 

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Jarrod (2) - Xan, matt
listo (2)- mitch, cwe
Future (1) - jarrod


Not voting: People who are church choir groups that perform "Like a Prayer"
 

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So Excited Reaction GIF by Originals
 

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Won’t vote myself cause I’d never vote myself as town. Actions suck anyways so woo!
 

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Jarrod (2) - Xan, matt
listo (3)- mitch, cwe, jarrod


Little less than 2.5 hours left


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I am willing to switch if we want. Feels like we need to get something going in a hurry.
 
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