Fingers of Suspicion

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Mafia 18 - Town of FoS

It looks like Robo killed drey... but this leaves some missing pieces. I think it's time for people to put info on the table so we can start trying to see the bigger picture.
I am town retributionst i used caito on mazer last night. I got claws listo mazer. Theres scum in there.
 
wait. We're just fucked aren't we? We have five dead town... majority is 6 -- unless the remaining neut and mazer - whatever he is - votes with us it is literally impossible to yeet a coven member even if we know who...?
 
wait. We're just fucked aren't we? We have five dead town... majority is 6 -- unless the remaining neut and mazer - whatever he is - votes with us it is literally impossible to yeet a coven member even if we know who...?
4 Coven. Yeah. We need the NE to vote with us. Fortunately, they need each other gone as well...
 
Id assume 3ps would join town since town dont tend to shoot at night depending on thier defences then again not sure how that would play out later on its like digging your inevidable grave either way
 
Known:
Mitch - Cleric, Town Support
MTR - Coroner, Town Invest
Caito - Psychic, Town Invest
Pups - Socalite, Town Support
Drey - Deputy, Town Killing

Claimed:
CWE - Spy, Town Invest
Foxxi - Veteran, Town Killing
Satsu - Retributionist, Town Support

We can have two support members from the common town category, so why can't satsu be retri?
 
Known:
Mitch - Cleric, Town protect
MTR - Coroner, Town Invest
Caito - Psychic, Town Invest
Pups - Socalite, Town Support
Drey - Deputy, Town Killing

Claimed:
CWE - Spy, Town Invest
Foxxi - Veteran, Town Killing
Satsu - Retributionist, Town Support

We can have two support members from the common town category, so why can't satsu be retri?
Ebwop
 
Known:
Mitch - Cleric, Town Support
MTR - Coroner, Town Invest
Caito - Psychic, Town Invest
Pups - Socalite, Town Support
Drey - Deputy, Town Killing

Claimed:
CWE - Spy, Town Invest
Foxxi - Veteran, Town Killing
Satsu - Retributionist, Town Support

We can have two support members from the common town category, so why can't satsu be retri?

Think -.-
 
Think -.-
1 Town Power -
1 Town Killing - Me
1 Town Protective - Mitch
2 Town Investigative - MTR, Caito
2 Random Town (any type) - Drey, You
2 Common Town (Support/Protective/Investigative) - CWE, pups

Okay. I am a visual person.

Satsu does indeed not fit for retri. Or you are lying.
 
retri would be a good one for a necro to try to pretend to be...and my info tells me we almost certainly have a necro... soooo yea
 
1 Town Power -
1 Town Killing - Me
1 Town Protective - Mitch
2 Town Investigative - MTR, Caito
2 Random Town (any type) - Drey, You
2 Common Town (Support/Protective/Investigative) - CWE, pups

Okay. I am a visual person.

Satsu does indeed not fit for retri. Or you are lying.
Good job. You get a reduced rate with Stripper Listo now.
 
if the last neut is something like arsonist, can we afford to spend the day chopping coven? Though I don't know if we can afford *not* to
 
I think town has to roll the dice and murder a coven if they want a chance and just pray its not arson

The jailor was speculation against pirate since we were pulling roles that could murder
 
3. CWE - Spy
4. Foxxi - Veteran
5. Listo - claims last town spot

6. Mazer - Schrodinger's role

One of yall is the Town Power and the rest of ya'll are scum of some flavor.

1. Blind Ninja
2. Claws
7. morrison
8. Satsu
9. Val the Moofia Boss
10. Xanjori
 
3. CWE - Spy
4. Foxxi - Veteran
5. Listo - claims last town spot

6. Mazer - Schrodinger's role

One of yall is the Town Power and the rest of ya'll are scum of some flavor.

1. Blind Ninja
2. Claws
7. morrison
8. Satsu
9. Val the Moofia Boss
10. Xanjori
Winner Winner Win GIF by GIPHY Studios 2021
 
3. CWE - Spy
4. Foxxi - Veteran
5. Listo - claims last town spot

6. Mazer - Schrodinger's role

One of yall is the Town Power and the rest of ya'll are scum of some flavor.

1. Blind Ninja
2. Claws
7. morrison
8. Satsu
9. Val the Moofia Boss
10. Xanjori
If that's the case the power needs to power one of the others in the last list...
 
If I'm reading Listo right, he's claiming Tavern Keeper?

So it's a fake poisoner claim vs a fake necro claim.
 
I dislike this wording.

FYPOV isnt Satsu literally outed based on claims so far? Like there has to be a scum between Listo and Satsu no?
This is technically true. But I KNOW we have a necromancer from my own role info -- and satsu's claim is a very good and safe fake claim to attempt as a necro. And I trust the way listo has handled this more than satsu.

You must be coven too I guess since I think whoever the neut killer is would rather just accept a chop on one of those people vs trying to create uncertainty between listo/satsu
 
If I'm reading Listo right, he's claiming Tavern Keeper?

So it's a fake poisoner claim vs a fake necro claim.
No. He's claiming another town killing role I believe. He has to fit in the 2 any - and if he were some kind of power he'd have done something by now
 
This is technically true. But I KNOW we have a necromancer from my own role info -- and satsu's claim is a very good and safe fake claim to attempt as a necro. And I trust the way listo has handled this more than satsu.

You must be coven too I guess since I think whoever the neut killer is would rather just accept a chop on one of those people vs trying to create uncertainty between listo/satsu
Thats a terrible attempt at logic. Why would I be Coven because Im telling you you're literally not even reading facts that are in front of you if you're town.

Assuming CWE is the Spy we've got 3 RT claims right now. If you are actually one of those RT claims you KNOW that one of the others is lying, you literally do not need to guess that one of those people is not town.
 
Thats a terrible attempt at logic. Why would I be Coven because Im telling you you're literally not even reading facts that are in front of you if you're town.

Assuming CWE is the Spy we've got 3 RT claims right now. If you are actually one of those RT claims you KNOW that one of the others is lying, you literally do not need to guess that one of those people is not town.
XD

The funny thing here is it *literally* doesn't matter which of listo or satsu is lying to claim the last town slot -- unless YOU are the town power in that list - You cannot be town no matter which one of those two is lying.
 
Which is also why I dislike this level of posting. You literally KNOW I had to be Power or not town, so why reveal this to the thread?
 
it's not revealing anything until someone claims it. It is deduction logic that the town power had to exist in that group of players. And from the coven PoV they're gunna know it's one of 2 people anyway.
 
it's not revealing anything until someone claims it. It is deduction logic that the town power had to exist in that group of players. And from the coven PoV they're gunna know it's one of 2 people anyway.
Never assume what the Coven will deduce, youve got no idea how well they understand the setup
 
Day 3 Vote Count:

Listo - 1 (Satsu #678)

Not Voting: 3puppies, Blind Ninja, Claws, CWE, Foxxi, Listo, Mazer, morrison, Val the Moofia Boss, Xanjori

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on June 13th or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.
 
Day 3 Vote Count:

Listo - 1 (Satsu #678)
Satsu - 1 (Listo #680)

Not Voting: Blind Ninja, Claws, CWE, Foxxi, Mazer, morrison, Val the Moofia Boss, Xanjori

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at 8:00pm ET on June 13th or when majority is reached. With 10 players alive, majority is 6 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.
 
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I feel between the two listo has been townier posting on ISO. I'm still inclined to vote satsu - but I agree. Day only just began. If Xan is lying someone will be able to prove it more than likely and there is no reason to rush a yeet and not give that chance.
 
Though I do want to make sure everyone is aware - Void DID shorten the day.

We have until 8pm EST tomorrow, so like, 30ish hours
 
About what? her role? I have a list with evil and she isnt on it. I didnt really think she was lying right now.
Its like a such a simple case here i have no words.
 
Satsu why dont you believe Foxxi is lying?
This... is actually a really good point. If he really is a retri it only means one of those three is absolutely scum.

In a world where I've lied, both listo and satsu could be town. And neither of them are acting like it. Though listo already said yesterday he thought I was behaving like town me...while satsu made a point of saying the only people who should be considered town were pups and CWE.
 
About what? her role? I have a list with evil and she isnt on it. I didnt really think she was lying right now.
Its like a such a simple case here i have no words.
His point is that if my claim were fake - then listo's could be true -- which would put you back at having no real idea which of those names are scum and which aren't.
 
The thing is... listo had already stated he leaned me trust yesterday, which could explain why he didn't assume that I'd be lying. Satsu treated me like he trusted me... even going so far as to say to look in my sus pile for who should be counter trained, but then shortly after said only pups and CWE should be considered town.
 
Besides ppl should be questioning why Satsu apparently used Caito on Mazer. The person the psychic goes to 100% appears in the vision. Why not go for someone trusted on the night for evil names?
 
Becauae he is the biggest unknown and i was curious who would i get to him.

I dont think odds are much better if i pick confirmed town
 
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