Fingers of Suspicion
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Mafia 2 - Wishes of Hogwarts
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Tildey
Mafia Mom
I’m trying to get caught up after a rough end of week work wise. Last day phase ended in mid kills before I could vote. I don’t want to jump on a train when I’m behind on reading but I also don’t want to killed for missing two vote.
Vote: Future as a placeholder vote, not because I’m implying anything. Once I’m caught up, I expect to change votes.
Vote: Future as a placeholder vote, not because I’m implying anything. Once I’m caught up, I expect to change votes.
Satsu
Vigilante
I played 2 games with Psycho before. I think this is Psychos worst performance out out those. It is so different from what i would expect that i have scum leam on psycho.
However from mechanical standpoint I don't see real evidence on Psycho.
Homelyman is the opposite. I can see a fringe world where Catio was a cop with guilty on him. But otherwise I have a town lean by way of his posting.
I only played 2 games with him too and in both of them he died n1, I've heard he is good at the game so who knows.
Jarrod said he has some info about game setup. I thought how he could get it. I had an option to ask a question to a mod in another game so that was a possibilty, but I dindt find anything like that in writeup.
He was wrapped in webs anyway so my thought was it came from a wish and it was granted to blue and purple. He must be one of those so there is 50/50 on Jarrod as blue or Purple. Also why would town Jarrod only ask for red? More like 60/40 on jarrod as purple.
That is not based on evidence. Just a gamble with high odds and should be considered last.
I think Dreyski is town.
Listo95
Moderator
Claws
All-Knowing
i see what you mean about jarrod its a take we should most likely look at in the future
Randolph
Vanilla Townie
I believe so yes
Randolph
Vanilla Townie
Not totally annoying I meant
Satsu
Vigilante
Not totally anoying
Randolph
Vanilla Townie
But not totally annoying
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
Trying to think of examples.
Psych might be lynched less than anyone, and talked himself out of more than anyone but possibly JP.
I remember one time he was almost lynched because I was wrote the Michael Scott motivator as prison Mike.
That was funny.
Saw psych get killed as outed scum in a jarrod game, and then win a res price. That one was different.
One time we were scum together on mmoc. He was outted because of am innocent child. He used the opportunity to take heat off the team. He's probably the best at moving the momentum to someone else when there's early pressures He doesn't like.
He will bus his own team. Talked about that in chats in recent games.
I still think him and dreyski are not aligned.
But could look at other connections
Psych might be lynched less than anyone, and talked himself out of more than anyone but possibly JP.
I remember one time he was almost lynched because I was wrote the Michael Scott motivator as prison Mike.
That was funny.
Saw psych get killed as outed scum in a jarrod game, and then win a res price. That one was different.
One time we were scum together on mmoc. He was outted because of am innocent child. He used the opportunity to take heat off the team. He's probably the best at moving the momentum to someone else when there's early pressures He doesn't like.
He will bus his own team. Talked about that in chats in recent games.
I still think him and dreyski are not aligned.
But could look at other connections
Listo95
Moderator
Well we don’t know what happens when Harry wins since he’s lost every duel so far.
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
It's best to safe. I want to theorize more on modkills, but Vkumbridge doesn't allow.
MTR
Godfather
Yeah I don't know what is going on with this. I hoping Hagrid is just making some bad guesses but he has been more of a hinderence than help so far.
Listo95
Moderator
That would be my guess.
Claws
All-Knowing
a 3p listo is towns demise.
Lora for memes
mtr and future fighting for head of the house
MTR
Godfather
That makes sense if it involves taking the wand or something.
Pablo Diablo
Lunchable
Sorry Psycho didn’t see your quote notification. I’m still getting used to this new forum quirks since I unwatched the thread. I didn’t realize that would not send me an email about the quotes. I think that there’s a good chance that the actions of Caito were hinting at something. But it’s hard coming in late to a game to truly get the feel for the tenor of how things were going. Especially with as many posts as there are here.
I think I’m still on you for this vote. But you are a bit less pushing onto someone else than you often get when caught.
I think I’m still on you for this vote. But you are a bit less pushing onto someone else than you often get when caught.
Val the Moofia Boss
Scum Hunter
Jarrod1983
Vigilante
Wrong again on me being purple. I can only do so much. Quit trying to paint me as scum. I am town.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
I wasn't clearing them as if I had info. Satsu had made a comment about you saying you're almost never red, and it seemed so specific that I thought it came from info. Matthieu said we shouldn't worry about you and Listo, particularly after I was poking at Listo, after a Weasley had targeted Listo. I thought it was maybe a claim, and then when I thought they could be masons, I figured that would explain a lot else. Which makes me have you as a hard clear and Listo as "not red"
Matthieu's flip pretty much confirmed my thoughts and I'm honestly surprised he wasn't killed sooner.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Mazer, it doesn't matter how narrowed down you are because the probably dead cop voted you after investigating. I may have let it slip by when it shouldn't have, but it doesn't change the fact that odds are there's hard evidence against you for the one red role you can be. Try to get your mislynch while you can, but people will listen when they see my flip and they'll get you.
Satsu
Vigilante
I could be wrong on you as a purple but well me that i am wrong. I think you can.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
I'm pretty sure I know who you are
Pablo Diablo
Lunchable
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
If you want final vote counts, you can click reader mode at the top of the thread page. The Discord server also generally has the final counts documented, though not always final vote accurate.
Otherwise you can find a Void post and click "ISO" and all the vote counts he posted will show up there
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Tildey
Mafia Mom
Not until an update is posted. I've tried Reader mode and I can follow the Threadmarks that are out there but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to see where the counts stand (without going back through posts and counting) until the mod posts an update.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
For possible red, I have:
The Homely Man
Dreyski
Pablo
Robo
MTR
Val
For possible Purple, I have:
Dreyski(longshot)
Pablo
Listo
Lora
Robo
MTR
Randolph
Val
Xan
Pablo, Robo, MTR, and Val are the most open. I don't really have any feels on Robo or Val, MTR as been okay I guess, and Pablo's entrance doesn't sit right but I'd give a "catching up" pass
Everyone but Homely Man is pretty much completely open for the red. It's all the people that haven't really shaken up the tree very much.
I think it's likely Randolph could just be town, though I'm pretty sure he's not red since Lucius was trying to rolecop him.
I could have been barking up the wrong tree about Dreyski. I still think his posts have a certain bite and manipulative tone to them that doesn't feel like town Dreyski. But if we're to look anywhere else other than The Homely Man, I'd look right into Pablo/Robo/MTR/Val. There's also Listo, but he's not red unless he's a godfather if I'm reading Matthieu's info right.
Peeves is also pretty wide open other than Claws, Jarrod, Satsu, and Tildey. I'm still thinking about the Lora!Peeves possibility but it could be just about anyone.
The Homely Man
Dreyski
Pablo
Robo
MTR
Val
For possible Purple, I have:
Dreyski(longshot)
Pablo
Listo
Lora
Robo
MTR
Randolph
Val
Xan
Pablo, Robo, MTR, and Val are the most open. I don't really have any feels on Robo or Val, MTR as been okay I guess, and Pablo's entrance doesn't sit right but I'd give a "catching up" pass
Everyone but Homely Man is pretty much completely open for the red. It's all the people that haven't really shaken up the tree very much.
I think it's likely Randolph could just be town, though I'm pretty sure he's not red since Lucius was trying to rolecop him.
I could have been barking up the wrong tree about Dreyski. I still think his posts have a certain bite and manipulative tone to them that doesn't feel like town Dreyski. But if we're to look anywhere else other than The Homely Man, I'd look right into Pablo/Robo/MTR/Val. There's also Listo, but he's not red unless he's a godfather if I'm reading Matthieu's info right.
Peeves is also pretty wide open other than Claws, Jarrod, Satsu, and Tildey. I'm still thinking about the Lora!Peeves possibility but it could be just about anyone.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Oh, yeah, if you want some kind of automated vote count for any point in the thread, we're still a ways off from that unfortunately.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Tildey
Mafia Mom
I figured as much. I like the threadmarking feature, though. And I could be wrong - but I thought that's what he was looking for (automated vote counting).
Dreyski
Scum Hunter
There’s the discord channel, but that hasn’t been updated since last day phase.
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
I'm very comfortable in seeing your flip. The last hail Mary didn't work.
Your fear tactic play doesn't scare either.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Future's open for both sides, too. He hasn't really been targeted by anything yet other than the out-of-phase post restriction
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
If the master of misdirection is seen through here, I'm guessing I'm a target tonight.
So fuck it. Let's dive deep.
This is the part where psych floods the thread, so when we do his post death scum analysis, he's got too many threads to focus.
The key will be to see his earlier behaviors and any suspicion he derailed before they became things. I pointed that out earlier, and now we got thus.
Once again psych bringing out the sheet, but not eliminating me from any roles. Also he told me earlier that it was weak that I brought that he:.
1. Had been targeted by no scum. None.
2. Could be any of the scum.
Psych knows this is extremely relevant, but blocking out some things to drive the agenda is a psych tell.
And everyone is still supposed to buy that he had this all along, but let other pushes go through without even mentioning his suspicion,?
We both know if you weren't scum, you'd get a strong suspicion out. Both to avoid low probability lynched and to make sure you didn't die with it hidden. The way you're claiming to have had suspicion, and the way you've acted this game shows that you didn't really have it.
And you started the day with indicating that the scum Godfather triggered you, and went with the "let's start here". Magic I guess.
Some of this helped though. I'll look for out of character reactions to see if you left any clues previously.
Too fucking much here
So fuck it. Let's dive deep.
This is the part where psych floods the thread, so when we do his post death scum analysis, he's got too many threads to focus.
The key will be to see his earlier behaviors and any suspicion he derailed before they became things. I pointed that out earlier, and now we got thus.
Once again psych bringing out the sheet, but not eliminating me from any roles. Also he told me earlier that it was weak that I brought that he:.
1. Had been targeted by no scum. None.
2. Could be any of the scum.
Psych knows this is extremely relevant, but blocking out some things to drive the agenda is a psych tell.
And everyone is still supposed to buy that he had this all along, but let other pushes go through without even mentioning his suspicion,?
We both know if you weren't scum, you'd get a strong suspicion out. Both to avoid low probability lynched and to make sure you didn't die with it hidden. The way you're claiming to have had suspicion, and the way you've acted this game shows that you didn't really have it.
And you started the day with indicating that the scum Godfather triggered you, and went with the "let's start here". Magic I guess.
Some of this helped though. I'll look for out of character reactions to see if you left any clues previously.
Too fucking much here
Robozerim
Lost Wolf
Hi, people. I'd throw out my traditional random first vote, and would certainly be tempted to do so because I see whispers of the threat of mod deathery upon inactivity on the voting front (and posting front), but given timing I think I shall resist that temptation in case of accidental dangerous votes. I'll be reading the thread for at least this day for the next bit. Day 5 substitution leaves a lot to learn.
Xanjori
Vigilante
If you vote wrong we're lynching you tomorrow.
Robozerim
Lost Wolf
Well, it'll be a quick game for me, then.
ForgottenHold
Vigilante
Tildey
Mafia Mom
Are you able to offer more info on this? Jarrod has seemed frustrated that he isn't able to offer clearly info to support his town status. It sounds like you may be able to help him?
Claws
All-Knowing
jarrod has never done well in the spotlight in my opinion
Tildey
Mafia Mom
Which is a reason I would think a town person would help him if they could help clear him as town.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Without giving anything away, he's someone who's shown up in the writeup and as far as I can tell, his info is completely legit. There's a certain roles that lines up with the way he's been dispensing info and the people we've seen in the writeups
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
I've been defending Jarrod hard from the get to. Leave him alone. He's clean. And any info he presents will be legit.
Robozerim
Lost Wolf
Still reading, obviously, but hard not to notice that Psycho is a clear favourite for lynch based on both start of day and very recent posts. Something like never getting targeted and that's suspicious? Mister Homely seems to be a pusher (as of the posts I've reached) of him, though it was at least in part as a counter to being called out himself. Psycho pointed out that Homely hadn't been targeted by somebody I think except when a bus driver was in effect on him? Always a headache, and certainly suspicious. A lot of other people with less overt reasoning than Homely at around the same time. I hear multi ball or w/e the terminology is now is in effect (and the day's write up indicates it too), so I honestly could see them both being scum on opposing teams. Kill em both and things probably go well or at least not terrible. Of course, this is just the currently clueless guy putting in his 2 cents.
Questions...the first post seems to not be updated past day 3 for deaths and such, is there a good place to see a full list of the dead and their roles/alignments? It'd be nice to get an idea of how the game is going overall.
Secondly, is this Homely person somebody I've seen before with like a name change or something? I don't recognize the name at all, but he seems the persuasive sort that probably has experience.
Questions...the first post seems to not be updated past day 3 for deaths and such, is there a good place to see a full list of the dead and their roles/alignments? It'd be nice to get an idea of how the game is going overall.
Secondly, is this Homely person somebody I've seen before with like a name change or something? I don't recognize the name at all, but he seems the persuasive sort that probably has experience.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
You're probably all going to lynch me instead of looking at the info right in front of you. That's fine. Just listen to the info I've put in thread after I die. I'm certain I'm right about The Homely Man, and I'm certain on my townreads and who can be purple/red. It'll be on you to actually listen to it.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Homely Man is Mazer. I believe you played with him once or twice.
The best bet for a dead list is to click reader mode at the top of the thread and it'll show all the writeup posts. That'll at least have all the flips, even if they're not in one neat and tiny list.
Tildey
Mafia Mom
If you click "Reader Mode" at the bottom or top of the page you can go through all of the Threadmarks to read the write ups and final vote counts. The only one not threadmarked is Day 3 end.
Claws
All-Knowing
i agree the problem is just saying im town im town isnt a way to make others feel your town you gotta solve you gotta be part of the decussion
Claws
All-Knowing
why is he clean?
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
You may remember me as mazer,from games I've died early while day 1 role-playing characters such as distinguished English gentlemen who always referred to psych as his proper name-psychological.
You played the game on the previous FOS site right?
I had to change my name for a month when I lost in a contest.
Claws
All-Knowing
he was brought back over badger
Robozerim
Lost Wolf
I am currently content with lynching both of Psycho and ex-Mazer and letting the mod god sort it out. Looking at the dead, purple is in pain unless I'm missing stuff, so if both are rival scum, I'd guess the more popular to lynch candidate is purple while the less popular is red. Big "if", perhaps. Not sure how close we are to a lynch, but I'd guess not far from it, so I'll hold off on throwing my vote just yet.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
If he wants me to out him, I can. But I literally just explained as best I could in response to Tildey. It's really obvious if you pay attention to the write-ups and Jarrod's posts.
Jarrod1983
Vigilante
Not frustrated. I actually think I was as clear as I could be without crossing the line.
I will say that I feel like I run games better than play them.
Also I feel like since my split I have really been quite horrible. I don't scrutinize as much as I used to and my problem solving has been lackluster. Depression can take the speed off your fast ball I guess.
I have been trying this game though and bringing legit information that I can gather to everyone. I even pretty much said you can put things together on me character-wise, that's no lie.
You've seen the last couple scum games I've played. My play feels different when scum. I have definitely been part of the discussion even if you say I'm not.
Also since I started playing these games if I say I'm town I'm generally town.
Listo95
Moderator
I'm honestly wondering if they are both scum but different factions.
Jarrod1983
Vigilante
If you want to throw your guesses out for the class by all means, I don't mind.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
Claws
All-Knowing
Severus Snape stayed in his Potions classroom all night. He spent time mixing up a secret formula. This potion should allow Snape to commune with the hidden voices and entities that have been shaking things up at Hogwarts. Hopefully, they can provide some answers.
where are these answers then?
where are these answers then?
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
And that's a whole other thing
My money's on Filch at this point based on how Protego has gone down, plus it would make sense theme/flavor wise.
Draco's probably too obvious. And if it's a surprise turn, my money is on maybe Ron or Harry. Don't think it's Snape based on the kind of info he can receive.
Claws
All-Knowing
badger is an animal hes always mad its nature
Listo95
Moderator
But honey badger shouldn't care.
Mazer
Spirit Breaker
I might be phoebe
VoidKitten
Cuddly, but Saavy
Day 5 Vote Count:
7 - Psycho (Claws #1541, THM #1566, Pablo Diablo #1567, Randolph #1573, Jarrod #1575, Xanjori #1656, Future #1661)
1 - THM (Psycho #1521)
1 - Listo (Satsu #1601)
1 - Dreyski (Lora #1602)
1 - Future (Tildey #1603)
1 - Lora (MTR #1604)
1 - Claws (Listo #1606)
1 - Xanjori (Val #1635)
Not Voting: Dreyski, Robozerim
With 16 players alive, majority is 9 votes on a single player.
7 - Psycho (Claws #1541, THM #1566, Pablo Diablo #1567, Randolph #1573, Jarrod #1575, Xanjori #1656, Future #1661)
1 - THM (Psycho #1521)
1 - Listo (Satsu #1601)
1 - Dreyski (Lora #1602)
1 - Future (Tildey #1603)
1 - Lora (MTR #1604)
1 - Claws (Listo #1606)
1 - Xanjori (Val #1635)
Not Voting: Dreyski, Robozerim
With 16 players alive, majority is 9 votes on a single player.
PsychoSoldier
Administrator
I don't think it'll be that obvious, and the oracle ability doesn't feel like a scumsided one. They already have more info than the rest. We're the ones who need that info.
