Mafia 21- American Assassin

[VoidKitten]

Oh I guess one scum rber and one town rber kinda makes sense... Kinda

It's very common to have town RB and scum RB. And town jailer too all in one game :D

 

[VoidKitten]

Matthieu coming in minutes after I said he'd never vote/kill Val makes me

 

[Claws]

I will avenge you, Val.

This is exactly what Val said scum killed you and he was sk lol

 

[GrumpyCat]

Matthieu coming in minutes after I said he'd never vote/kill Val makes me

Yeah lol

He didnt kill val though. And if his scum buddies were like.

We are going to ninjakill your pal while you watch from the corner.

 

[WindwardAway]

Yeah lol

He didnt kill val though. And if his scum buddies were like.

We are going to ninjakill your pal while you watch from the corner.

Tbf, it was probably whoever had the ninja power who made that decision lol
I'm not entirely sure why a ninja was necessary, though? Maybe it was a precaution

 

[WindwardAway]

Is ninja usually a limited-use modifier here, or a role itself?

 

[Matthieu]

Matthieu coming in minutes after I said he'd never vote/kill Val makes me

If I were going to do it then it would be to avoid throwing a game and that'd only be applicable in the late game rather than early on. Even then, I'd seek to avoid doing so.

 

[Claws]

Is ninja usually a limited-use modifier here, or a role itself?

Limit usually like 1x ninja x1 cannibal 1x strongman we see that alot and then obv standard kill

 

[WindwardAway]

Limit usually like 1x ninja x1 cannibal 1x strongman we see that alot and then obv standard kill

What the heck is a cannibal?

 

[Listo95]

What the heck is a cannibal?

 

[MTR]

Who the fuck ninja kills Val?

Scum?

 

[MTR]

I think MTR is the most likely to have blocked Grumpy last night, because Grumpy was joke voting him yesterday. It's a stupid thought but I feel like if wolves wanted a block target and didn't really have any idea where to look, they'd just pick someone who had gotten their attention during the day, and the only player Grumpy voted was MTR.

That is a bit tinfoiling don't you think. Grumpy is not really a surprise person to be blocked. I am sure people realize he can be a threat. I was a bit surprised by the Val kill and ninja kill at that or at least that is what it seems.

 

[Claws]

What the heck is a cannibal?

Kill doesn't flip

 

[WindwardAway]

That is a bit tinfoiling don't you think. Grumpy is not really a surprise person to be blocked. I am sure people realize he can be a threat. I was a bit surprised by the Val kill and ninja kill at that or at least that is what it seems.

Idk, nobody said anything about Grumpy being a threat so I am following my own opinion.

 

[WindwardAway]

Kill doesn't flip

Oh, I'm used to that being called a janitor lol. Good to know.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I think it was called janitor on epic mafia.

Way it usually works here is that scum will have one person that gets some 1x killing tricks while others get normal kills.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Well I didnt want to be awake yesterday, and now I get to be up all day starting at 4am. Lets take a look at actions and respond to whats already been said.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Jane/Tom either Jailed or RB'd Claws. Wonder if this is 1 person or a mason.
Prince Omar Jailed/RB'd Winward
Thomas RB'd Grumpy
Paul checked Windward.
Ben tried to check someone (they were either jailed or Ben was blocked)
David watched Mazer

Then we get David being Killed by an unseen assailant.

Town having a Jail and RB seems normal
Scum having an RB is normal.
2 cop-ish checks from town. Paul seems like normal cop checking alignment/allegiance.
Watcher/Tracker for town.

Is this a ninja kill? or is it just the flavor, since these are all assassins?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Wait, Jane and Tom are masons who have a shared action?
Sorry I'm like super slow at putting the information together, but that's good because it means eventually someone might be conformable

That is a theory. Could potentially be 1 player and just 2 names associated with them based on the character(s) in the books Mitch is basing this off.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Out of curiosity, how is the writeup handled if a player is blocked but they still get their action through (like with a strongman or if the block gets cancelled out)?

If the action is blocked or person is jailed, you'd liekly not seen that persons action in the writeup

In writeup = it likely happened

 

[Blind Ninja]

Who usually interacts with Val, is he good at reading someone in particular on this playerlist?

I have like no idea about a lot of player relationships here, still, so I'll stick with my dumb theory that MTR targeted Grumpy.

Id say a lot of the interactions with Val, at least early game, are trying to get him to add to the thread. Typically one of the quieter players.

 

[Blind Ninja]

The action on Windward seems more likely to be a roleblock.
The one on Claws seems more likely to be a jail/commute
The one on Grumpy (scum) also seems like a roleblock.
Paul copped Windward (allegiances)
Ben was probably a tracker/watcher based on there being a cop check today. Could be rolecop too I guess.
David doctored Mazer

Scum Ninja killed Val

I dont really see this as a commute. Between top 2 town actions, 1 is likely a RB the other a Jail.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Matthieu coming in minutes after I said he'd never vote/kill Val makes me

Not really surprised by it or his reaction to the kill.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Is ninja usually a limited-use modifier here, or a role itself?

Think that all depends on the game setup.

In a previous game, on MMO-C many moons ago.... Scum had 3-4 players that all had a signature kill, but they couldnt do it consecutive nights or had to use all before going back through the list.

For this, maybe its the role itself. Game is based on assassins. Or could be limited use (1x)

 

[GrumpyCat]

Val was doctor david so its more like protect than watch.

And windward was more likely rb than jailed. If it was jail then copcheck would fail and not show in writeup i guess.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Val was doctor david so its more like protect than watch.

I can see this. Down side of reading and responding shortly after waking up.

And windward was more likely rb than jailed. If it was jail then copcheck would fail and not show in writeup i guess.

While this may be the norm and likely scenario, we also dont know exactly how Mitch mods games, since this is his 1st here.

 

[WindwardAway]

Val was doctor david so its more like protect than watch.

And windward was more likely rb than jailed. If it was jail then copcheck would fail and not show in writeup i guess.

Oh right, I didn't even consider that the cop would fail lol
I had this question recently in a game on another forum and people were like "why would you assume that jail blocks incoming actions?"
Because I swear I see jailing processed differently on every forum I play on lol

 

[GrumpyCat]

There was a discussion here too.
Some say jail prevent someone from acting and stops all actions on them. Other version says it stops player from acting and protects them from death but other actions still work.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Oh right, I didn't even consider that the cop would fail lol
I had this question recently in a game on another forum and people were like "why would you assume that jail blocks incoming actions?"
Because I swear I see jailing processed differently on every forum I play on lol

There was a discussion here too.
Some say jail prevent someone from acting and stops all actions on them. Other version says it stops player from acting and protects them from death but other actions still work.

Different mods do different things with Jail. Think the most common for Jailor is protects like doc, but blocks their actions. Some completely block others from acting upon the jailed target

 

[WindwardAway]

Yeah, I guess we'll find out eventually if there was a jail lol

 

[GrumpyCat]

Yeah and if cop got anything on you i suppose they would try to hint it by now.

 

[Claws]

Maybe could also have invest immune I won't clear him this early

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote Count:

MTR- 1 (Windward #168)
Morrison- 1 (matthieu #198)

Just under 24 hours to go.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I know its not an auto clear, but its good enough for me atm.

And I think Windwards a girl, no?

 

[WindwardAway]

I know its not an auto clear, but its good enough for me atm.

And I think Windwards a girl, no?

It's ok, I'm not that picky about pronouns

 

[WindwardAway]

I wouldn't clear myself this early either cause there's like nothing in the writeup that indicates I'm town
I got cop checked and blocked but like, I could have a strongman action, I could be a godfather, I could be anything (saying this from the perspective of if I saw those actions on someone else)

 

[WindwardAway]

Cause you guys are basically saying if I have a strongman I couldve still acted and it would mean my flavor is somewhere in the character names, and if I were a godfather there would just be no indication of it whatsoever, right?

 

[WindwardAway]

Or how are godfathers handled, do their flavors show up as green too?

 

[WindwardAway]

Maybe I should just stop asking stupid questions

 

[WindwardAway]

Cause you guys are basically saying if I have a strongman I couldve still acted and it would mean my flavor is somewhere in the character names, and if I were a godfather there would just be no indication of it whatsoever, right?

Oops, this was supposed to say "my flavor is somewhere in the character names in the writeup"

 

[WindwardAway]

Vote Count:

MTR- 1 (Windward #168)
Morrison- 1 (matthieu #198)

Just under 24 hours to go.

Um, second time asking this, but has Morisson posted at all? Or has that slot been completely silent? I pinged them yesterday at eod to try to get them in the thread to check in, but it was probably too close to deadline. Now, hasn't it been like a day and a half with no word from them?

 

[WindwardAway]

Wtf why did autocorrect change the spelling of Morrison

 

[WindwardAway]

I'll try to shut up for the rest of the day because I think it's going to be super annoying for you guys to ISO me otherwise

 

[WindwardAway]

Btw I'm not familiar with the flavor of this game at all, but I have a sneaky suspicion that there are probably flavor names in the OP that might just never show up in the writeup

 

[GrumpyCat]

Or how are godfathers handled, do their flavors show up as green too?

They show as red but cop will get town.

And strongman was a topic too. If they just bypass doc heal or they are unstopable.

Vote: Morisson

For encouragement.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Btw I'm not familiar with the flavor of this game at all, but I have a sneaky suspicion that there are probably flavor names in the OP that might just never show up in the writeup

Yeah sure, this game was designed for 20 players.

But start of day writeups usually dont have fake names.

Depends on the mod you never know for sure.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I'll try to shut up for the rest of the day because I think it's going to be super annoying for you guys to ISO me otherwise

Lol there are maybe 3 ppl in this game that would ever ISO someone ;D

 

[Blind Ninja]

Cause you guys are basically saying if I have a strongman I couldve still acted and it would mean my flavor is somewhere in the character names, and if I were a godfather there would just be no indication of it whatsoever, right?

Dont think anyone is saying you are a strongman. People are saying how things could happen.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Maybe I should just stop asking stupid questions

I'll try to shut up for the rest of the day because I think it's going to be super annoying for you guys to ISO me otherwise

Question, stupid to you or not, still add to the game. More then some. Id rather have someone constantly asking questions then sitting back and doing nothing.

And with this being Mitch's 1st game modding for us... we dont really know how he is handling things. We can assume itll be similar to how others doing it, with some tweeks for their style.

Keep the game engaged by being active.

 

[Blind Ninja]

@VoidKitten Who do you want to focus on today now that the initial confusion of the writeup has passed for you.

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote Count:

MTR- 1 (Windward #168)
Morrison- 2 (matthieu #198, GrumpyCat #245)

22 Hours to go.

 

[WindwardAway]

Yeah sure, this game was designed for 20 players.

But start of day writeups usually dont have fake names.

Depends on the mod you never know for sure.

Nah, other than the dead guy in the OP I believe all the names in the writeup are likely in the game.
I have other reasons for thinking some might not show up in the nightly writeups.

 

[WindwardAway]

Dont think anyone is saying you are a strongman. People are saying how things could happen.

Nah I didn't think that, I was just trying to account for all possibilities in terms of how to read the writeup

 

[WindwardAway]

Question, stupid to you or not, still add to the game. More then some. Id rather have someone constantly asking questions then sitting back and doing nothing.

And with this being Mitch's 1st game modding for us... we dont really know how he is handling things. We can assume itll be similar to how others doing it, with some tweeks for their style.

Keep the game engaged by being active.

Yeah, I just... Don't want to flood the thread and then make people angry because I talk too much.

 

[WindwardAway]

I'm at a concert now, though, so you'll get a break from me for at least a little while

 

[Claws]

Cause you guys are basically saying if I have a strongman I couldve still acted and it would mean my flavor is somewhere in the character names, and if I were a godfather there would just be no indication of it whatsoever, right?

Strongman can be roleblocked just it goes through typical protects like bpv or Dr ect it's a basic kill you use when you want som1 dead for sure but at no risk of getting blocked

 

[MitchRapp]

*** UPDATE ***

3 Puppies has requested a sub.

Future has joined and will be taking his place.

 

[Claws]

Vote: future

 

[MTR]

Or how are godfathers handled, do their flavors show up as green too?

Typically no. Their actions are red. But just green to a cop check.

 

[MTR]

Vote: future

 

[Claws]

Looks like mtr is off the hook for failing to get future in

 

[ForgottenHold]

Vote: future

What is this? Day 1 shenanigans?

 

[Claws]

What is this? Day 1 shenanigans?

Only for you

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote Count:

MTR- 1 (Windward #168)
Morrison- 2 (matthieu #198, GrumpyCat #245)
Future-1 (claws #258)

 

[Blind Ninja]

Vote: future

Had a feeling this vote would come from you immediately. lmao

 

[Blind Ninja]

If we have nothing else to go on or after... I can see hitting one of the lurkers. Keep the active people around til we have something one way or the other.

Vote: Morrison

 

[MTR]

Looks like mtr is off the hook for failing to get future in

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote Count:

MTR- 1 (Windward #168)
Morrison- 3 (matthieu #198, GrumpyCat #245, BN #266)
Future-1 (claws #258)

 

[ForgottenHold]

Vote: MTR

I just need to get it out of my system

 

[GrumpyCat]

If we have nothing else to go on or after... I can see hitting one of the lurkers. Keep the active people around til we have something one way or the other.

Vote: Morrison

Now I am paranoid that if Morrison was scum he would be replaced and not 3pups ;<

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote Count:

MTR- 2 (Windward #168, Future #269)
Morrison- 3 (matthieu #198, GrumpyCat #245, BN #266)
Future-1 (claws #258)

 

[Claws]

Now I am paranoid that if Morrison was scum he would be replaced and not 3pups ;<

3pup asked morri likely would also he's a usually quiet player that still uses his actions

 

[Claws]

Would not

 

[Claws]

If I had a nickle everytime I pushed a quiet morri who was town I'd likely have 25 cents =D

 

[3puppies]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I requested to be replaced. Some personal issues have come up and I don't expect to be able to give this the amount of time it needs.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Vote: MTR

I just need to get it out of my system

Once you read the thread could you tell me your thoughts on CWE? I think theres something off here. Like not enough squints idk

 

[CWE]

Once you read the thread could you tell me your thoughts on CWE? I think theres something off here. Like not enough squints idk

 

[ForgottenHold]

Once you read the thread could you tell me your thoughts on CWE? I think theres something off here. Like not enough squints idk

He has been awfully quiet and quite, unhelpful

 

[CWE]

He has been awfully quiet and quite, unhelpful

 

[GrumpyCat]

 

[Claws]

Hmm cwe meme'ing

 

[Claws]

That's a new one

 

[Blind Ninja]

Hmm cwe meme'ing

how does it make you feel?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Game feels slow... Little more then halfway through D2

Morrison - 0 posts
listo - 2 posts
Jarrod - 2 posts
Future - 3 posts (subbed in today)
Mazer - 4 posts
Robo - 5 posts
CWE - 8 Posts (0 with any words)
MTR - 9 posts
Matt - 11 posts

 

[Matthieu]

Yeah, it's very quiet. I'd like more people to cast a vote. We don't want a repeat of D1.

 

[Mazer]

Can we even count the 10 minutes I was voting on you as a push? :D

Sometimes the most gentle pushes are the most memorable.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Yeah, it's very quiet. I'd like more people to cast a vote. We don't want a repeat of D1.

Hard for people to vote, when they dont even post...

 

[Blind Ninja]

@morrison
@Listo95
@Jarrod1983

Why should we keep any of you in the game?

I would have also pinged future for post count, but he subbed in and has more posts then all 3 of those above.
Mazer also just posted, but hasnt really added much

 

[Mazer]

Matthieu and Val are bffs. They only vote/kill each other as a last resort. But they won't argue against a kill if the team overruled or gave a good reason. Or well, they may argue, but not like stomp their feet :D

If there was a cop check, they'd vote/kill each other. But not before anything concrete.

Absolutely. Makes it less probably. But I don't think Matt loses his mind if he's outvoted. But you go into it, with a slight minus on probability.

 

[Mazer]

Oh I guess one scum rber and one town rber kinda makes sense... Kinda

It's pretty standard on Rajah games

 

[Mazer]

What the heck is a cannibal?

I met a college student once who was a cannibal. But they were very honorable. They only did it with consent.

They were a Fine Young Cannibal.

 

[Mazer]

Or how are godfathers handled, do their flavors show up as green too?

Not typically.

But don't distract me with derp questions

 

[Mazer]

Maybe I should just stop asking stupid questions

Yeah, that's what I said.

 

[Mazer]

*** UPDATE ***

3 Puppies has requested a sub.

Future has joined and will be taking his place.

3puppies obviously has scum fatigue.

 

[Mazer]

Vote: MTR

I just need to get it out of my system

Future, are you scum?

@morrison, same question.

 

[Mazer]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I requested to be replaced. Some personal issues have come up and I don't expect to be able to give this the amount of time it needs.

Best wishes in what you are going through, and I hope you get the best possible resolution in whatever you are currently experiencing.

 

[Mazer]

Current mild town reads:
Claws
Blind Ninja

 

[Mazer]

I have decided I will not be voting for either of those 2 or matt today.

Welcome to the Mazer Manor for Protected Souls. Please be aware that space in this building is rented, not owned.

 

[Mazer]

Also Windy, because why not?

Welcome

 

[Mazer]

I'm ok with morrison getting the kibosh, barring him coming in with rationale.

I'd be less inclined to only run only one train without dees, because then we're just eliminating and not pressuring.


I do not know if this mod would kill inactives or no.