Mafia 23 - The Town of Rings

[CWE]

@PsychoSoldier

Is my read right? Are you spy?

 

[Apocaclaws]

Interesting

 

[Matthieu]

I'm inclined to trust CWE.

 

[CWE]

I'll be on and off all day. I'm in the process of making up for lost time. (aka getting so fucking drunk...)

 

[Matthieu]

Last time I got drunk I woke up in a bed in between my best friend and his girlfriend with them both asking to play with my willy. Be careful.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Repeat after me:

No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Town's only hope to win is to lynch. Most of the time, those lynches are wrong, but you can't not lynch because scum are still going to kill until they win. The only hope to win is to lynch.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

It's like trying to find a woman, or sending out applications for a job. Yeah, it's demoralizing to swing and miss, but you can't not do that. You just gotta keep swinging.

FoS yesterday's no lynchers

 

[CWE]

Town's only hope to win is to lynch. Most of the time, those lynches are wrong, but you can't not lynch because scum are still going to kill until they win. The only hope to win is to lynch.

In ToS...town can win with zero lynched. Likely? Hell no. Possible? Sure.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Town's only hope to win is to lynch. Most of the time, those lynches are wrong, but you can't not lynch because scum are still going to kill until they win. The only hope to win is to lynch.

While I agree with you assessment here, what did you do yesterday to help push a lynch one way or the other, aside from a vote? What reasoning did you bring to the table?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Last time I got drunk I woke up in a bed in between my best friend and his girlfriend with them both asking to play with my willy. Be careful.

While you're here and not under pressure... what do you make of yesterday, aside from the situation with Mitch. Where is you mind on these people?

 

[Matthieu]

While you're here and not under pressure... what do you make of yesterday, aside from the situation with Mitch. Where is you mind on these people?

I reread the thread during the night phase and I'd say out of everyone, Llettuce is the most suspicious to me. I can't fathom what Mitch was trying to do but it's water under the bridge for now. Llettuce, however, was awfully insistent on trying to claim that she didn't like my reaction. Which would be fair enough, except Llettuce later switched over to...Mitch.

I already noted back on D1 that the timing was awfully convenient for Llettuce to show up with only a handful of hours remaining. Though to wade in on a scuffle with strong words and then back off anyway feels very opportunistic.

So barring other options and unless anyone has any solid leads to present my vote is going there today.

Vote: Llettuce

 

[CWE]

Why not.
Vote: Llettuce

 

[Apocaclaws]

Vote: mitch

Come out and fight me like a man

 

[GrumpyCat]

I'll be on and off all day. I'm in the process of making up for lost time. (aka getting so fucking drunk...)

Is it time for your birthday already?

 

[CWE]

Is it time for your birthday already?

1 hour 46 minutes ago.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Happy Birthday

 

[Matthieu]

Happy Birthday!

 

[GrumpyCat]

I reread the thread during the night phase and I'd say out of everyone, Llettuce is the most suspicious to me. I can't fathom what Mitch was trying to do but it's water under the bridge for now. Llettuce, however, was awfully insistent on trying to claim that she didn't like my reaction. Which would be fair enough, except Llettuce later switched over to...Mitch.

I already noted back on D1 that the timing was awfully convenient for Llettuce to show up with only a handful of hours remaining. Though to wade in on a scuffle with strong words and then back off anyway feels very opportunistic.

So barring other options and unless anyone has any solid leads to present my vote is going there today.

Vote: Llettuce

Thats a solid case sir.

Vote: Lettuce

 

[GrumpyCat]

Repeat after me:

No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day

Starting from today yeah. I would say so.

 

[Caito]

Repeat after me:

No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day

We really don’t have to repeat this.

 

[Caito]

So that I can understand things before I get started on my day, our leading thoughts are Llettuce due to when she was posting as well as a late switch, something about bread, and Psycho saying he knows something but wants to wait?

That got me caught up pretty well?

 

[MitchRapp]

And Matthieu's BFF wants to to be cucked by Mattheiu.

 

[GrumpyCat]

I understand sleeping is off the table until infection problem is dealt with.

 

[MitchRapp]

I have to ask.

Mitch, were you being serious when you switched your vote to Psycho towards the end of the day phase and called him 'scummy' or was that just a joke?

This is a serious game of mafia. I would never joke around. Unless I was a jester, then it would seem apropos.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

This is a serious game of mafia. I would never joke around. Unless I was a jester, then it would seem apropos.

For what it's worth if it was a serious vote, that immediately ruined most of my townread on you

 

[PsychoSoldier]

And I'm gonna go ahead and out my info as I don't think there's much use to holding on to it now, especially considering I won't be around too much

I bugged Matthieu and he's infected

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Repeat after me:

No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day
No lynching gives scum a free day

Oh I agree!
Vote: Val

 

[GrumpyCat]

I bugged Matthieu and he's infected

 

[PsychoSoldier]

After some clarification, I guess Matthieu could still be the PB based on how my role works.

 

[CWE]

If you are spy, wither PB hit Matthieu last night or you found the PB last night. I'll be able to tell you with 90% certainty tomorrow if it's a or b.

 

[MitchRapp]

So run me through the plan with a plaguebearer. How do you beat it?

 

[CWE]

So run me through the plan with a plaguebearer. How do you beat it?

Hang it, Deputy shoots it before transformation or a pros prosses it. Or they handle themselves and walk into an alerting Vet.

 

[Listo95]

So run me through the plan with a plaguebearer. How do you beat it?

(Via lynching or a powerful/unstoppable attack at night before they become pestilence)

 

[Apocaclaws]

I still think ldg is famine fuckin with us this feels like a multi apoc game

 

[MitchRapp]

Oh I agree!
Vote: Val

Voting for Val right now doesnt make a lot of sense to me. Unless I am missing something.

 

[llettuce]

I reread the thread during the night phase and I'd say out of everyone, Llettuce is the most suspicious to me. I can't fathom what Mitch was trying to do but it's water under the bridge for now. Llettuce, however, was awfully insistent on trying to claim that she didn't like my reaction. Which would be fair enough, except Llettuce later switched over to...Mitch.

I already noted back on D1 that the timing was awfully convenient for Llettuce to show up with only a handful of hours remaining. Though to wade in on a scuffle with strong words and then back off anyway feels very opportunistic.

So barring other options and unless anyone has any solid leads to present my vote is going there today.

Vote: Llettuce

I switched the mitch in hopes of moving a lynch, didn't really want to lynch mitch but would rather hit something than nothing

 

[Matthieu]

And I'm gonna go ahead and out my info as I don't think there's much use to holding on to it now, especially considering I won't be around too much

I bugged Matthieu and he's infected

So does that mean you're infected too as a result of visiting me or does the 'spread' only occur on subsequent night phases?

If you are spy, wither PB hit Matthieu last night or you found the PB last night. I'll be able to tell you with 90% certainty tomorrow if it's a or b.

That'd be appreciated.

This is a serious game of mafia. I would never joke around. Unless I was a jester, then it would seem apropos.

Are you a Jester?

I still think ldg is famine fuckin with us this feels like a multi apoc game

Potentially, yeah.

I switched the mitch in hopes of moving a lynch, didn't really want to lynch mitch but would rather hit something than nothing

Why Mitch rather than, say, Val? He was also a target of interest back on D1. Or did you simply think Mitch was the only viable target at that point?

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote: Matthieu

 

[PsychoSoldier]

So does that mean you're infected too as a result of visiting me or does the 'spread' only occur on subsequent night phases?

That'd be appreciated.

Are you a Jester?

Potentially, yeah.

Why Mitch rather than, say, Val? He was also a target of interest back on D1. Or did you simply think Mitch was the only viable target at that point?

I'm trying to figure that out now, but if my read of how it works is right, I would only be infected if you were the Plaguebearer.

Were you informed that you were infected?

 

[Apocaclaws]

I'm trying to figure that out now, but if my read of how it works is right, I would only be infected if you were the Plaguebearer.

Were you informed that you were infected?

CWE master of TOS stated you wont be informed earilyer

 

[Matthieu]

I'm trying to figure that out now, but if my read of how it works is right, I would only be infected if you were the Plaguebearer.

Were you informed that you were infected?

No, though I can confirm that we have a Socialite who targeted me last night.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm trying to figure that out now, but if my read of how it works is right, I would only be infected if you were the Plaguebearer.

He is.

 

[Matthieu]

He is.

I'm not. I suspect you may be though.

 

[Matthieu]

If you're the Jester, just admit to it and we can find a mutually beneficial time to fulfill your win condition.

 

[MitchRapp]

If you're the Jester, just admit to it and we can find a mutually beneficial time to fulfill your win condition.

I don't hard claim.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm trying to figure that out now, but if my read of how it works is right, I would only be infected if you were the Plaguebearer.

Were you informed that you were infected?

Were you told you were infected?

 

[Matthieu]

I don't hard claim.

Do you soft claim?

 

[Apocaclaws]

do you flacid claim :D

 

[MitchRapp]

At my age they give you pills for that

 

[Apocaclaws]

do you do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around thats what its all about

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm more of a chicken dance kind of guy

 

[Apocaclaws]

so not a claimer in a game where not claiming is gunna sink you interesting

 

[MitchRapp]

Unvote: Matthieu

Vote: Claws

 

[Apocaclaws]

this dumb mf. im just stating a fact i didnt claim famine til i was about to explode as i was gunna get chopped but i wanted to go boom they all figured it out anyways if town all come out and sound plauisble you start yeeting the ppl that arent cooperating then move on to the town claims from most plauisble to least from the flips

 

[MitchRapp]

1. How do we know Matthieu is infected? What did @PsychoSoldier do that gave him this info.
2. If matthieu is infected there is a good chance he is patient zero and we should lynch him.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Were you told you were infected?

No, and as Claws just told me, CWE already said we wouldn't be informed if we were infected

 

[MitchRapp]

No, and as Claws just told me, CWE already said we wouldn't be informed if we were infected

How do you know he is infected then?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

1. How do we know Matthieu is infected? What did @PsychoSoldier do that gave him this info.
2. If matthieu is infected there is a good chance he is patient zero and we should lynch him.

I already said I bugged him and basically claimed Spy

 

[PsychoSoldier]

You also realize that it's possible the Plaguebearer chose to infect Matthieu last night because he'd get a lot of attention, right?

I'm not saying he's clean, but without further evidence, there's just as much likelihood that he was infected last night as there is that he is the Plaguebearer

 

[PsychoSoldier]

How do you know he is infected then?

Are you thick?

 

[MitchRapp]

You also realize that it's possible the Plaguebearer chose to infect Matthieu last night because he'd get a lot of attention, right?

I'm not saying he's clean, but without further evidence, there's just as much likelihood that he was infected last night as there is that he is the Plaguebearer

So at best its 50-50 that he is the Plaguebearer. I like those odds.

 

[MitchRapp]

Are you thick?

Yes

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Yes

I respect your honesty

 

[MitchRapp]

So at best its 50-50 that he is the Plaguebearer. I like those odds.

Anyone want to address this?

 

[Matthieu]

CWE already did.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm not gonna pretend like my first thought upon realizing Matthieu could be Plaguebearer wasn't, "Maybe that's why he got so particularly upset about getting D1'd this time." But I'm not hopping right to assuming he's the Plaguebearer

 

[Apocaclaws]

i dont think he would be the pb i think he was so close yesterday this would give him that extra sus for the push i could be wrong im not apoc sadly

 

[Apocaclaws]

i still believe its heavy deflect off my mitch crusade

 

[PsychoSoldier]

i dont think he would be the pb i think he was so close yesterday this would give him that extra sus for the push i could be wrong im not apoc sadly

I'm confused what you mean by this? Are you saying being defensive would have brought too much attention so that's not why he would be Plaguebearer?

I think that assumes Matthieu wouldn't have an instinctive reaction. Especially when you consider he was trying to use comparative logic to defend himself ("What about the other inactive/busy people?").

I don't really see how that makes him not the Plaguebearer at all

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Also, I caught up on the rest of Page 4 and llettuce seems more likely to be town imo. Don't see that as a good wagon at the moment.

 

[Apocaclaws]

I'm confused what you mean by this? Are you saying being defensive would have brought too much attention so that's not why he would be Plaguebearer?

I think that assumes Matthieu wouldn't have an instinctive reaction. Especially when you consider he was trying to use comparative logic to defend himself ("What about the other inactive/busy people?").

I don't really see how that makes him not the Plaguebearer at all

no im saying it was between mitch and grae and no1 wanted to swap and i feel this new "info" would push grae over mitch in the same case he very well could be PB or maybe mitch is apoc and the PB used it on grae to deflect off mitch i mean now the whole days gunna be about grae with your info and every1 else is just eh

 

[Apocaclaws]

another question would be is there another investigative which would make your spy claim extra spicy

 

[GrumpyCat]

Boromir fits spy well. Bilbo seems like a tracker lookout type so its investigative too. Dont know what ringwraiths are, maybe its pb colored green to confuse.

 

[Blind Ninja]

so not a claimer in a game where not claiming is gunna sink you interesting

I dont plan on claiming this game... with the potential of someone that can kill claimed roles

 

[Blind Ninja]

1. How do we know Matthieu is infected? What did @PsychoSoldier do that gave him this info.
2. If matthieu is infected there is a good chance he is patient zero and we should lynch him.

If Matt is infected and Psycho is also... we cant get ahead of this. Lynching Matt would only help us IF he is the PB.

From what I know/remember, people dont get told if they get bread or are infected... but i could be wrong. So I'd be more inclined to lynch psycho over matt for this.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Anyone want to address this?

Thats not how odds work. Definitely more variables at play and this isnt a 50-50 type situation.

But we get it, you have it out for Matt

 

[Apocaclaws]

would be dumb to lynch the spy tho wouldnt it?

 

[Blind Ninja]

i still believe its heavy deflect off my mitch crusade

Why are you on a Mitch crusade?

 

[Blind Ninja]

I'm confused what you mean by this? Are you saying being defensive would have brought too much attention so that's not why he would be Plaguebearer?

I think that assumes Matthieu wouldn't have an instinctive reaction. Especially when you consider he was trying to use comparative logic to defend himself ("What about the other inactive/busy people?").

I don't really see how that makes him not the Plaguebearer at all

But how does it make him the PB?

 

[Apocaclaws]

Why are you on a Mitch crusade?

because no1 was willing to pop off grae to vote mitch and he said he would vote me today over it so im gunna sink him

 

[Listo95]

Well what we do know is either Grae is the PB or was the 1st target of the PB.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Well what we do know is either Grae is the PB or was the 1st target of the PB.

Thats IF Psycho is telling the truth.

Not only that, Matt didnt come forward and say he was infested or even agree with Psycho on that.

 

[Apocaclaws]

Thats IF Psycho is telling the truth.

Not only that, Matt didnt come forward and say he was infested or even agree with Psycho on that.

he wont know

 

[MitchRapp]

Vote: mathieu

This game is easy.

 

[Listo95]

Thats IF Psycho is telling the truth.

Not only that, Matt didnt come forward and say he was infested or even agree with Psycho on that.

We can easily confirm that with a risk involved.

 

[Matthieu]

Vote: mathieu

This game is easy.

Nah. You're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Blind Ninja]

he wont know

We can easily confirm that with a risk involved.

Id rather chop Psycho over Matt for the info

 

[Matthieu]

Unvote: Llettuce
Vote: Mitch

I don't trust you, not in the slightest. We already know you don't have any solid evidence against me and you caused most of D1 to be wasted by your inane decision to tunnel me over having the courtesy to announce that I would be busy for a few hours (in addition to being in a completely different time zone to most players in the first place).

We also know that you don't genuinely believe me to be scum because if that were the case, you would've have moved your vote - but you did, switching to Psycho and Claws with little to no reason or elaboration.

Furthermore whenever people start trying to solve and approach the situation from various angles you barge in and seek to poison the well.

 

[MitchRapp]

No need for people to solve and approach the situation from various angles...I solved it for them day 1.

 

[Listo95]

Id rather chop Psycho over Matt for the info

Not the risk I meant but okay lol.

 

[Matthieu]

No need for people to solve and approach the situation from various angles...I solved it for them day 1.

Putting me aside, which three players are you most suspicious of and why?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Not the risk I meant but okay lol.

What risk were you talking about, someone else target Matt?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Boromir fits spy well. Bilbo seems like a tracker lookout type so its investigative too. Dont know what ringwraiths are, maybe its pb colored green to confuse.

I wouldn't rely on the write-ups like normal

 

[PsychoSoldier]

But how does it make him the PB?

I didn't say it makes him the Plaguebearer. There's just as many odds that he is the Plaguebearer as much as he was targeted by the Plaguebearer. I would get the same result in either case.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Thats IF Psycho is telling the truth.

Not only that, Matt didnt come forward and say he was infested or even agree with Psycho on that.

Matt wouldn't know unless he was the Plaguebearer anyway

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Id rather chop Psycho over Matt for the info

Where is the logic here? Just because you don't trust that I'm telling the truth? Because that doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Why would I claim what I did unless I was immediately trying to steer into a Matthieu lynch?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

no im saying it was between mitch and grae and no1 wanted to swap and i feel this new "info" would push grae over mitch in the same case he very well could be PB or maybe mitch is apoc and the PB used it on grae to deflect off mitch i mean now the whole days gunna be about grae with your info and every1 else is just eh

I'm still lost. Are you saying him showing up as infected was framed? Like are you claiming I'm lying to set up Matthieu or that somehow he got a fake Infected modifier?

For what it's worth, I have a passive ability that makes it so my investigations can't be interfered with so one way or another, Matthieu is infected. Whether he's the PB or not is another question, but I don't see how what your saying at all prevents him from being the PB? As someone who doesn't even feel strongly about lynching him.

 

[Listo95]

What risk were you talking about, someone else target Matt?

See what Psycho's results are for tomorrow.

 

[Apocaclaws]

maybe its grae bn and ldg and insert some other turd