Mafia 23 - The Town of Rings

[llettuce]

Though if not for any other reason, yeeting a protection role would be stupid. Back off, please.

Oh a claim spicy, why didn't you pull this out earlier? You're only at 3 votes am I really that much of a threat to you?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Is that even allowed? that feels illegal?

reminding you the game started doesnt feel like a breach to me... actively talking about who you think is what or what you did the previous night, that would be a no-no

 

[Blind Ninja]

Oh yeah given maj rules

Vote: Matt

If you were really worried about Maj, wouldnt you vote the leading train?

Now you just tied 2 at 3 votes, whereas you could have put mitch to 4

 

[Apocaclaws]

Last night we fibal slapped N court thanks to listo's sacrfice webbing the boss then we failed N queen lol more Queen tonight

 

[llettuce]

If you were really worried about Maj, wouldnt you vote the leading train?

Now you just tied 2 at 3 votes, whereas you could have put mitch to 4

Normally I hold my votes like a fucking gremlin, and votes are low enough I feel like it's important to put my money where I feel it should be rather than waffling. Since it's d1 I'm not opposed to moving if someone gets closer *shrug*

 

[Blind Ninja]

There's really no legitimate reason to vote for me and it's tiresome when someone doesn't show up until right until the last minute only to suddenly find the time to weigh in. Probably called for backup in a scum chat, no doubt.

I really wouldn't recommend taking out an angelic being such as myself.

You can still have discussion and lead the votes toward someone else. It doesnt have to be defend defend defend or doom and gloom for you.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Normally I hold my votes like a fucking gremlin, and votes are low enough I feel like it's important to put my money where I feel it should be rather than waffling. Since it's d1 I'm not opposed to moving if someone gets closer *shrug*

So why Matt? Since that post really just mentioned maj

 

[Blind Ninja]

If you legitimately catching up on the thread you would've seen what caused the scuffle. Multiple players claimed that they would be busy due to raiding in World of Warcraft. A new expansion just launched and half of this community was formed from people who played and still play the game in question.

I stated it as a courtesy, as I am already in a completely different time zone to most players.

Mitch latched onto it as a dumb reason to push on me, I pushed back. It ended up dictating most of the day phase.

I think I have every right to be annoyed, since it isn't the only game recently where I have been yeeted on D1 for stupid reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself.

You are also doubling down on the defense instead of providing any other content to the game. Your 1 other suggestion was "Vote Llettuce, she has 0 posts"

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm probably MIA for the rest of the phase as a heads up

 

[Blind Ninja]

Last night we fibal slapped N court thanks to listo's sacrfice webbing the boss then we failed N queen lol more Queen tonight

Main raid cleared normal, then slapped the 1st 3 on heroic. Got some decent pulls in on the bat thing.

Alt raid with a friends guild, came in 6th boss... killed it, then wiped for 45 min on silken court. A couple more hours of that tonight im sure. If not, they likely wont kill queen this week

 

[Matthieu]

Oh a claim spicy, why didn't you pull this out earlier? You're only at 3 votes am I really that much of a threat to you?

- It's currently 10PM.
- The day phase is due to end soon.
- Claiming unnecessarily does more harm than good and anyone who does claim makes themselves into a night target.

You are also doubling down on the defense instead of providing any other content to the game. Your 1 other suggestion was "Vote Llettuce, she has 0 posts"

Yes, in no small part because it is D1 and there isn't a whole lot else that has happened of note. I legitimately think Mitch isn't to be trusted. I don't like how Psycho or Llettuce are reacting to the situation either. Psycho I'd expect more nuance from and Llettuce seems extremely opportunistic.

Your posts are fairly reasonable. Val and Claws are acting as I'd expect them to and I'm torn between viewing them as NAI and trustworthy.

LDG made a specific comment that makes me want to trust her for now. Assuming my hunch is correct.

 

[Blind Ninja]

Sub-10 posters with <3 hrs remaining

7 - @Listo95
6 - @LemonDemonGirl

Anything to add, or we getting a warning?

Im sure listo is likely at work and will try to get a posts in... unsure if LDG even cares.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

How convenient! So let me get this straight, you don't like me calling out someone for voting me for reasons unrelated to the game that are entirely falsified but you're fine with Mitch doubling down?

I'm just going to be honest, I'm from an era where we used to have twenty to thirty players in these games and there was very much something called the 'gentleman's agreement' in play. A safety net of sorts to prevent grating situations like this occurring in the first place.

My enjoyment playing these games is already waning and I can't help but get the impression that some here simply do not like me and know they can exploit my habit of standing my ground and calling out bullshit as a convenient way to get me yeeted.

There simply isn't a valid reason to yeet me. I wasn't inactive. I simply stated I would be busy during a specific period of time due to raiding and being in a different time zone. It's not anymore complex than that.

I don't know about others, but I like you. That has nothing to do with my reason for voting you

 

[Blind Ninja]

LDG made a specific comment that makes me want to trust her for now. Assuming my hunch is correct.

Curious as to what the comment was

 

[PsychoSoldier]

But it's hard to believe that you calling out every single person that's voted you as scum isn't bad faith tbh

 

[Matthieu]

Curious as to what the comment was

Bread. I assume LDG is the Tavern Keeper.

But it's hard to believe that you calling out every single person that's voted you as scum isn't bad faith tbh

I don't believe all three of you are scum, though I think it's more likely than not that at least one of you is.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Bread. I assume LDG is the Tavern Keeper.

I don't believe all three of you are scum, though I think it's more likely than not that at least one of you is.

Which of us do you think is the most likely?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Bread. I assume LDG is the Tavern Keeper.

Bread could also be the Baker/Famine

Id assume tavern Keeper would be more a drink or something based on its actions

 

[Apocaclaws]

 

[Matthieu]

Which of us do you think is the most likely?

Between the three of you? Mitch, which is largely why I haven't moved my vote. Could I have handled things better? Probably. Though I did make a genuine effort to elaborate on my situation and Mitch chose to double down, which I find suspicious.

Bread could also be the Baker/Famine

Id assume tavern Keeper would be more a drink or something based on its actions

...fair point.

Now I'm second guessing myself. Do we think LDG would get that role and just hint at it anyway?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Between the three of you? Mitch, which is largely why I haven't moved my vote. Could I have handled things better? Probably. Though I did make a genuine effort to elaborate on my situation and Mitch chose to double down, which I find suspicious.


...fair point.

Now I'm second guessing myself. Do we think LDG would get that role and just hint at it anyway?

She has straight up said or hinted at her characters in the past. I can think or 2-3 situations

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm willing to give Matthieu a pass today provided he does more than defend himself the next phase. Because my biggest concern is that he didn't start reading other people until pressured to do so at the end of the phase. I don't really buy the claim as Matthieu would do that regardless of whether it's true or not.

But if Matthieu doesn't go down we're almost certainly getting a no lynch

 

[Listo95]

Last night we fibal slapped N court thanks to listo's sacrfice webbing the boss then we failed N queen lol more Queen tonight

Excuse me, I did not die!

 

[Listo95]

Sub-10 posters with <3 hrs remaining

7 - @Listo95
6 - @LemonDemonGirl

Anything to add, or we getting a warning?

Im sure listo is likely at work and will try to get a posts in... unsure if LDG even cares.

Yes I know!!! I'm off work and trying to get them in before raid in 2hrs.

 

[MTR]

I am willing to switch off of Matthieu. Who we want to go after?

 

[Listo95]

Main raid cleared normal, then slapped the 1st 3 on heroic. Got some decent pulls in on the bat thing.

Alt raid with a friends guild, came in 6th boss... killed it, then wiped for 45 min on silken court. A couple more hours of that tonight im sure. If not, they likely wont kill queen this week

We spent like... 2.5hrs total on Court I think? We almost got queen to last phase within 30mins, she's easily dying tonight.

 

[Apocaclaws]

We spent like... 2.5hrs total on Court I think? We almost got queen to last phase within 30mins, she's easily dying tonight.

Thats cuz our healer rl think he should do the wrap instead of healing

 

[Caito]

How convenient! So let me get this straight, you don't like me calling out someone for voting me for reasons unrelated to the game that are entirely falsified but you're fine with Mitch doubling down?

I'm just going to be honest, I'm from an era where we used to have twenty to thirty players in these games and there was very much something called the 'gentleman's agreement' in play. A safety net of sorts to prevent grating situations like this occurring in the first place.

My enjoyment playing these games is already waning and I can't help but get the impression that some here simply do not like me and know they can exploit my habit of standing my ground and calling out bullshit as a convenient way to get me yeeted.

There simply isn't a valid reason to yeet me. I wasn't inactive. I simply stated I would be busy during a specific period of time due to raiding and being in a different time zone. It's not anymore complex than that.

What in the fuck is this?


How did you manage to come off as both the old man and the”get off my lawn” and the Gen Z bitchy behavior simultaneously?

 

[Apocaclaws]

We slapped the first on heroic last week

 

[Apocaclaws]

Lets all pile on mitch

 

[Apocaclaws]

Mitvh mitch mitch

 

[Apocaclaws]

Dont be a bitch bitch bitch

 

[Apocaclaws]

Lets goooo on mitch

 

[Apocaclaws]

Am i not cheering hard enough

 

[VoidKitten]

2 hours remaining in Day 1.

 

[Apocaclaws]

all we need to 10 mins for these bags of dicks to ante up and swap to mitch

 

[Matthieu]

She has straight up said or hinted at her characters in the past. I can think or 2-3 situations

I'd ask for some elaboration from her, but you know how that usually goes...

I'm willing to give Matthieu a pass today provided he does more than defend himself the next phase. Because my biggest concern is that he didn't start reading other people until pressured to do so at the end of the phase. I don't really buy the claim as Matthieu would do that regardless of whether it's true or not.

But if Matthieu doesn't go down we're almost certainly getting a no lynch

I intend to contribute more, certainly, especially once we have something tangible to work with. I'd at least like to soak a night kill (which is more likely than not with unblockable kills floating around) rather than being unceremoniously yeeted on D1.

What in the fuck is this?


How did you manage to come off as both the old man and the”get off my lawn” and the Gen Z bitchy behavior simultaneously?

I do theatre work every other weekend.

 

[MitchRapp]

I'm probably MIA for the rest of the phase as a heads up

Scummy

 

[Blind Ninja]

Scummy

Dont want to push for his yeet, or still solely focused on Matt?

 

[Matthieu]

2 hours remaining in Day 1.

How many hours remain in Day 4, Day 8, Day 15, Day 16, Day 23 and Day 42?

 

[llettuce]

How many hours remain in Day 4, Day 8, Day 15, Day 16, Day 23 and Day 42?

Presumably 48 or 0

 

[Apocaclaws]

Dont want to push for his yeet, or still solely focused on Matt?

its called distancing

 

[MitchRapp]

Dont want to push for his yeet, or still solely focused on Matt?

I am a man of action.

Vote: Val

 

[MitchRapp]

I mean

Vote: Psycho

 

[MitchRapp]

Or I can vote Val. Whatever. Lets kill a bitch.

 

[Apocaclaws]

lol i wont vote psycho your outta your mind that guy hasnt played in like 3 months i feel like

 

[Apocaclaws]

gotta vote mitch if you want to hit that sweet scum

 

[MitchRapp]

Tomorrow I am going to vote for Claws...

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 1 Vote Count:

Mitch - 3 (Matthieu (#159, Apocaclaws #182, Val #316)
Val - 2 (Blind Ninja #57, Psycho #326)
Matthieu - 2 (MTR #269, llettuce #388)
Caito - 1 (CWE #40)
Sleep - 1 (Caito #268)
Psycho - 1 (Mitch (#444)

Not Voting: LemonDemonGirl, Listo, Grumpy #318

It is now Day 1. Day 1 will end at 8:00pm ET on Sept 19th or when majority is reached. With 13 players alive, majority is 7 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[Apocaclaws]

Tomorrow I am going to vote for Claws...

assuming you make it to tomorrow bring it on :) if your not scum scum will likely kill you because of my glorious push

 

[Apocaclaws]

ayoyo and now that your gone theres no turning back

 

[VoidKitten]

1 hour remaining in Day 1.

 

[Apocaclaws]

so we just not gunna have a yeet cuz every1 is afk i raid in like 13mins so fuck yall

 

[Apocaclaws]

lazy the lot of you we coulda sunk mitch like 24 hours ago

 

[Apocaclaws]

i keep on runnin i keep on running and nothing works i cant get away from YOU

 

[Apocaclaws]

im actually surprised the mayor if there is one hasnt sunk me for being loud and obtuse

 

[Apocaclaws]

oh god i just watched the dogman trailer and i need to watch this

 

[llettuce]

Vote: mitch

I guess if anyone else pops in to switch

 

[Apocaclaws]

welcome to the mitch club the goal is to lynch a mitch

 

[VoidKitten]

Day 1 Vote Count:

Mitch - 4 (Matthieu (#159, Apocaclaws #182, Val #316, llettuce #458)
Val - 2 (Blind Ninja #57, Psycho #326)
Caito - 1 (CWE #40)
Sleep - 1 (Caito #268)
Matthieu - 1 (MTR #269)
Psycho - 1 (Mitch (#444)

Not Voting: LemonDemonGirl, Listo, Grumpy #318

It is now Day 1. Day 1 will end at 8:00pm ET on Sept 19th or when majority is reached. With 13 players alive, majority is 7 votes on a single player. If majority is not reached by end of day, there will be no elimination.

 

[VoidKitten]

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

Mitch - 4 (Matthieu (#159, Apocaclaws #182, Val #316, llettuce #458)
Val - 2 (Blind Ninja #57, Psycho #326)
Caito - 1 (CWE #40)
Sleep - 1 (Caito #268)
Matthieu - 1 (MTR #269)
Psycho - 1 (Mitch (#444)

Not Voting: LemonDemonGirl, Listo, Grumpy #318

—------------------

The group gathered and discussed things as a whole, mostly wondering how they got there and what the heck was really going on. Throughout the discussion, alliances were formed and accusations levied. However, the group could not come to a consensus on which of them should be cast out and obliterated. With daylight fast fading, knowing full well the night brings terrors, the group split up to find a safe haven for the evening.

There has been no elimination.

—------------------

It is now Night 1. Night 1 will end at 8:00pm ET on Sept 20th or when all actions are submitted. Actions must be submitted by 6:00pm ET for them to be valid.

 

[VoidKitten]

As a reminder, there is a minimum post requirement per day of 10 posts. Players who fail to meet this post requirement will be subject to a modkill at the moderator’s discretion going forward.

Additionally, below is a spoiler with a basic idea for you all on how night actions are resolved. This is also located in discord.

Action Order Priority:

Spoiler

Bucket A:

Witch Control
Pirate Win (Invincible Defense)

Bucket B:

Admirer Care/Guardian Angel
Socialite
Plaguebearer
Poisoner/Tavern Keeper
Trickster Magic Mirror

Bucket C:

Trapper
Necromancer/Retributionist

Bucket D*:

All other roles that are not investigative or killing
Killing Actions
Investigative Actions (investigative roles can see what happened in prior buckets)

*Actions happen simultaneously within their groups unless a conflict arises. If a conflict arises, action will be randomized on which goes first. If Doomsayer wins with their kill and action goes, off they get priority for Invincible Defense before all other kills process.

—------------------

The darkness came quickly, eerily so, as many of the group were still heading to any ruins they could find shelter in for the evening. Throughout the night, strange noises were heard and what sounded like screams maybe? It was hard to tell. Despite that, Bilbo Baggins lamented the loss of the Shire. Bilbo knelt down and wept quietly at what was now lost. He heard a noise around him and saw someone. Bilbo had learned some magic from his time with the elves and said some words that caused the air to shimmer. Bilbo watched as the someone disappeared behind some ruins and turned his attention back to the home he wished he could have saved.

Elsewhere, Boromir stalked out in the wilderness with a purpose. He had picked up the scent of someone he was looking for. Once Boromir’s prey was discovered, he attached a device to their cloak and swiftly left, curious if the device would activate. As Boromir left, he could have sworn he heard the screeches of The Ringwraiths in the far distance, but the screeches to be cutting in and out rhythmically. Boromir had no idea what The Ringwraiths were doing or where they were at, but the screeches didn’t scare him…instead they seemed interesting and inviting. Boromir quickly shook his head, as he didn’t have time for this and had to head back and hunker down for the night.

As dawn came, everyone awoke and realized they had all been teleported back to the center of the arena, seemingly to force another discussion of who must be gotten rid of. All of them seemed intact however.

—------------------

Living Players:

1. Apocaclaws
2. Blind Ninja
3. Caito
4. CWE
5. Grumpycat
6. LemonDemonGirl
7. Listo
8. llettuce
9. Matthieu
10. MitchRapp
11. MTR
12. PsychoSoldier
13. Val the Moofia Boss

—------------------

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end on at 8:00pm ET on Sept 22nd or when majority is reached. With 13 players alive, majority is 7 votes on single player. If majority is not reached by the end of the day, there will be no elimination.

 

[Apocaclaws]

no death must be bread?

 

[MitchRapp]

I was reading the roles. Bread would be a sweet role to have. That or the plague one.

 

[Blind Ninja]

no death must be bread?

Reading Apoc card, none can kill on N1.

Baker can pass out bread to 3 different people

Beserker can only kill on full moon nights (until 1st successful kill, then every night). N1 isnt full moon.

Plaguebringer infects someone

Soul Collecter predicts a death

 

[Blind Ninja]

Sounds like someone potentially tried to kill bilbo but he may have popped some kind of shield

Boromir could be tracker potentially

 

[MTR]

There is a chance someone was also protected so really hard to know what we have yet.

 

[Apocaclaws]

I was reading the roles. Bread would be a sweet role to have. That or the plague one.

i had bread last time it was indeed really fun

 

[Apocaclaws]

Reading Apoc card, none can kill on N1.

Baker can pass out bread to 3 different people

Beserker can only kill on full moon nights (until 1st successful kill, then every night). N1 isnt full moon.

Plaguebringer infects someone

Soul Collecter predicts a death

right right

 

[GrumpyCat]

i had bread last time it was indeed really fun

Damn those rich canadians, i can only afford potato peels and water.

 

[MitchRapp]

Just some thoughts on this as this is a new style of game again for me.

If we have Baker we should:
1. Someone should claim that they were given bread.
2. Claim any other verifiable role.
3. Vote someone today.

These will help narrow the suspect pool down as much as possible.

If I am missing something let me know.

 

[CWE]

I was reading the roles. Bread would be a sweet role to have. That or the plague one.

You say that. Until your breads keep dying...

 

[GrumpyCat]

It could still be a werewolf. But game needs to have at least one coven or apoc beside that.

 

[CWE]

Just some thoughts on this as this is a new style of game again for me.

If we have Baker we should:
1. Someone should claim that they were given bread.
2. Claim any other verifiable role.
3. Vote someone today.

These will help narrow the suspect pool down as much as possible.

If I am missing something let me know.

Bread receivers don't know they receive bread.

 

[Apocaclaws]

its a hilarious role i merked the entire scum team

 

[CWE]

It can be.

 

[Apocaclaws]

no i agree if your bread keeps getting murdered its hella frustrating

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Please don't eat Troll Loafs

 

[Apocaclaws]

are you the baker?

 

[Matthieu]

Marguerite Baker?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

I'm out camping (shout-out @ForgottenHold) so I'm probably gonna miss a lot of this phase.

Anyone who's actually read the roles know what it means to be infected?

 

[CWE]

PB visited them last night OR they are the PB.

 

[CWE]

@PsychoSoldier

 

[PsychoSoldier]

PB visited them last night OR they are the PB.

Welp

I know someone that's infected

 

[CWE]

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Nothing happened last Night smh

 

[Blind Ninja]

Nothing happened last Night smh

How do you feel about D1?

Any thoughts on people?

 

[Blind Ninja]

Welp

I know someone that's infected

Who did you visit?

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Who did you visit?

Keeping mum for now

I wanna see how that person posts before I out of

 

[PsychoSoldier]

*out it

 

[Blind Ninja]

Fair enough

 

[CWE]

Keeping mum for now

I wanna see how that person posts before I out of

Doesn't matter. Only 2 roles has this info. Maybe 3/4 if you made ot up. The other person shouldn't out their role for fear of rit/doom.

 

[PsychoSoldier]

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure by the nature of my info, my target can't be the Plaguebearer and were in fact targeted by them.

Unless I'm missing something about how the PB works, that also means my target can still be any alignment unfortunately, but at least we know we have a PB and it's not them

 

[Matthieu]

I have to ask.

Mitch, were you being serious when you switched your vote to Psycho towards the end of the day phase and called him 'scummy' or was that just a joke?

 

[Apocaclaws]

should i prevote mitch he said he was gunna vote me d2 would that make him omgus

 

[CWE]

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure by the nature of my info, my target can't be the Plaguebearer and were in fact targeted by them.

Unless I'm missing something about how the PB works, that also means my target can still be any alignment unfortunately, but at least we know we have a PB and it's not them

Pb visuts or doesn't visit. Anyone they visit gets plagued. Anyone that visits them gets plagued. Plagued people spread the plague to players they've visited. When everyone is plagued, pb becomes pestilence.

 

[Matthieu]

So holding off on night actions may very well be a viable strategy?

 

[CWE]

So holding off on night actions may very well be a viable strategy?

No. Pb's gonna pb regardless of what we do. Sooner or later (maybe even as soon as last night?) scum will hit them or town will shoot them. Then we hang them.

 

[Apocaclaws]

No. Pb's gonna pb regardless of what we do. Sooner or later (maybe even as soon as last night?) scum will hit them or town will shoot them. Then we hang them.

So pb cant be psycho also follow up ?? If there are 4 apocs or more then one is there a solid change they pb them first night?

 

[CWE]

So pb cant be psycho also follow up ?? If there are 4 apocs or more then one is there a solid change they pb them first night?

Pb doesn't need to plague their team. When every non apoc us plagued. I guess I should have specified that. That would be like Baker giving his team all the bread so when the hungry people die, his team would remain.

And while Psycho could theoretically be pb, there is zero reason for him to out info on who was plagued n1 on day 2.