Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

[Badger]

Vote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)

Just under 23 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

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[Mazer]

I don't think my Catio read/reaction and my, I'll just call it a scum read, on Vesper is an apple: apple comparison.

Catio posted 3 times d1. Pretty null stuff. At this point, he was a non descrip lurker.

I started pushing Grumpy and after he threw a hissy fit, I had to ask him. He wasn't being proactive here, I had to ask him who was scum. He said "oh abbi's law says its catio"

I mean, ok? I still think it's a fallacy but it's deff worked in the past. Although it is GC's scum MO to push for lurkers so I did feel like his lite push on Catio could mean Catio was town. GC did argue that Catio's scum flip makes him town. If they were both scum would he bus here?

What are everyone's opinions on GC calling Catio scum but not (refusing to?) vote(ing) there?

Dude comes in and votes me for whatever reason

Is he bad town? Is he scum with a semi-opportunistic vote? IDK, it's all WIFOM.

I realize that I could be wrong on Vesper but I wasn't a huge fan of her 192 and 291. I just, idk. Claiming votes on her were rude in 192 is like... weird. She doesn't seem dumb to me so I think she knew it wasn't a lynch. And then 291 she says she'll prob be dead when it was a dice roll with a 33% probability of death that no one (apparently except for Void) knew for certain.

Like am I the only that side eyed these posts? I mean maybe they were supposed to be trolling and I just think trolling is a bit scummy, I guess.

she did come in today and said she didn't know that she wouldn't have died. So she thought it was a lynch? The reason that I don't really like this is b/c I at least, I think BN did too...told her she wasn't being lynched.

She also argued that she's not being coached b/c if she were she'd look like she knew what she was doing. Which I guess "confirms" ^ but I'm just a little skeptical.

There hasn't really been any hunting or pushing or that much responding on game events which I realize is she's "new" and this site is much more night focused, at least IMO so there's not as much scum hunting.

but I don't think you can really compare someone that I had been side-eyeing for ^ reasons and then some rando voting for me who is only getting pushed since he's a CW to Grumpy

These are legitimate on gc.

The Vesper....could go either way. There was also talk between me, jarrod, and some others on not wanting her to die. Confusion is a possibility for me.

 

[Mazer]

im wary of void pushing the rock/bn dichotomy

Is it crazy though?

It's been a relevant thread. If I hold that someone pushing today was likely scum, you have to at least be examined as a wolf possibility. Certainly not the only, but vetting shouldn't be disquieting.

I don't think it's an unfair at least to look at.

Also I would like to see BN's interactions get examined. He's a smart player and always needs examined

 

[rock meets hard place]

Do you think its fair to say that she (and listo and MTR and whomever) should put in a little more effort in solving even though its *d1 or just wait until there are info?

 

[rock meets hard place]

if Void was scum and BN/I were t/t then he's effectively pushing for dual mislynches

 

[Mazer]

Do you think its fair to say that she (and listo and MTR and whomever) should put in a little more effort in solving even though its *d1 or just wait until there are info?

I wouldn't go there on Vesper yet.

I don't have a baseline yet, and I'd definitely have her less needed on that than veteran players. I am 100 with listo, mtr, etc.

The focus on Vesper vs movement on Lora is befuddled to me.

What do you think about some of the other less actives?

Particularly those who didn't vote.

 

[Mazer]

if Void was scum and BN/I were t/t then he's effectively pushing for dual mislynches

True.

And if he and Vesper are town, the day began with a forced focus on two townies.

Lots of interesting hypotheticals

 

[Mazer]

I most curious what happens right now if we get dual trains going before the last minute.

I'm OK with gc

This is my preferred other option. I'm a little over 50/50 in my gut right now. Need to vet.

Vote: Jarrod1983

 

[rock meets hard place]

I think I'd be ok with throwing BN off a tower, I just hate how tunneled VK is and how much of a hypocrite he is unless he's scum

 

[Badger]

ote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)

Just under 23 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

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[llettuce]

Haven't finished reading and also drink, void is playing very.........aggressive. I haven't played enough games with void to know what this means, but it seems he's trying to control what's going on. He seems to think he's revealed to much bit I am too dumb to know what. Or
..... he is lying

 

[Mazer]

I think I'd be ok with throwing BN off a tower, I just hate how tunneled VK is and how much of a hypocrite he is unless he's scum

I get that.

But I also get that I think there's high probability to move off void, and there's a lot of coming just back to him since the start of the day.

So ....I could see a lot of blinder arguments.

 

[Mazer]

Haven't finished reading and also drink, void is playing very.........aggressive. I haven't played enough games with void to know what this means, but it seems he's trying to control what's going on. He seems to think he's revealed to much bit I am too dumb to know what. Or
..... he is lying

He openly talked about being a double voter. But it was an effect you could isolate, so it's typically ok.

Also void is easily confused about modkilling.


Not trying to discuss the dynamics of action, just answering a question about his concern comment.

 

[Mazer]

Haven't finished reading and also drink, void is playing very.........aggressive. I haven't played enough games with void to know what this means, but it seems he's trying to control what's going on. He seems to think he's revealed to much bit I am too dumb to know what. Or
..... he is lying

Curious what you think about tildey

 

[Vesper]

Prob bc she isn't doing anything but you could say that for most of the thread

May I offer some real life context as to why I dont exist quite as much:
when I do exist, i try to read on the threads
but when I dont, it would be because im in my 2nd semester of college and im taking College Comp, Calc 1, Programming Fundamentals 2, a history class, and two fine art electives and I have to work, along with doing any homework, reading, or household things, and i also end up socializing with my friends that i care about (i just got off of playing a horror game with one) and since im new, i am trying to observe a little bit before posting

tl;dr: I have a life and I am observing posts to try to learn things in a sociological manner so i may learn the game better

 

[Vesper]

excuse me if that sounded a bit rude and pissed, but it kind of irked me due to my in real life schedule and the other factors in my life

 

[Tildey]

tl;dr: I have a life and I am observing posts to try to learn things in a sociological manner so i may learn the game better

I can so see you and Future being related from this post. lol

 

[Vesper]

I can so see you and Future being related from this post. lol

That could be because we are cousins that had evil influences on each other (evil part being a joke, but influences was not)

 

[Tildey]

That could be because we are cousins that had evil influences on each other (evil part being a joke, but influences was not)

That was my intended implication, yes.

 

[llettuce]

He openly talked about being a double voter. But it was an effect you could isolate, so it's typically ok.

Also void is easily confused about modkilling.


Not trying to discuss the dynamics of action, just answering a question about his concern comment.

Oh pretty sure we all knew that lmao wouldn't have pinged that as too much. I guess knowing it came from his action and not someone's action against him?

Curious what you think about tildey

I am like 4 pages behind lmao will hopefully update when I get there (I am a little drunk (happy anniversary to me) so we will see how far I get

 

[Claws]

Like Lokcatting. Gonna die lol.

 

[Vesper]

Oh pretty sure we all knew that lmao wouldn't have pinged that as too much. I guess knowing it came from his action and not someone's action against him?

I am like 4 pages behind lmao will hopefully update when I get there (I am a little drunk (happy anniversary to me) so we will see how far I get

Congratulations on your anniversary!! Being a little drunk is definitely valid :)

 

[Claws]

Oh no. I am not perfect. I should just quit Mafia.

 

[LemonDemonGirl]

Vote: Val the moofia boss

This vote is likely to shift by EoD, but just in case scum have an 'end day early' power and VK gets yate.
Val the Moofia Boss LemonDemonGirl fancy moving your votes somewhere else?

 

[Vesper]

Since I still haven't observed enough to make an accurate decision, and the above post as to what it replies to I didn't know a forced end of day was potentially a thing, I'm gonna do this mostly for silliness that may change tomorrow if I happen to see something that catches my eye that makes me have a better idea of anything:
Vote: Futurehold

 

[Vesper]

Since I still haven't observed enough to make an accurate decision, and the above post as to what it replies to I didn't know a forced end of day was potentially a thing, I'm gonna do this mostly for silliness that may change tomorrow if I happen to see something that catches my eye that makes me have a better idea of anything:
Vote: Futurehold

since I know that if this was a thing, I'm not sure if it would affect anyone that didn't vote

 

[Vesper]

but there's also the possibility if I don't do anything tonight, I may get distracted tomorrow and forget to vote anyone before day ends

 

[Tildey]

Since I still haven't observed enough to make an accurate decision, and the above post as to what it replies to I didn't know a forced end of day was potentially a thing, I'm gonna do this mostly for silliness that may change tomorrow if I happen to see something that catches my eye that makes me have a better idea of anything:
Vote: Futurehold

To give you some context on things that could cause an early EOD:
-a special action (could be scum or town) that causes the current phase to end
-if any one player gets enough votes cast on them to reach hammer (which is 1 more than half of the current alive players)
-mod shenanigans

 

[Vesper]

To give you some context on things that could cause an early EOD:
-a special action (could be scum or town) that causes the current phase to end
-if any one player gets enough votes cast on them to reach hammer (which is 1 more than half of the current alive players)
-mod shenanigans

ohhhh, thank you <3
there's still the chance I may have a goofy forget to vote before the day ends anyways (it's a Sunday and I must to chapel (oh what happens when you go to a Christian college partly bc of the scholarships) and I'm going to be hanging out/doing calcus homework with friends that could evolve into more horror game playing)

 

[Vesper]

Since it is late and i must do the shenanigans of looking churc ready in the morning and have the mental energy to deal with everything, I'm going to bed for tonight

 

[llettuce]

May I offer some real life context as to why I dont exist quite as much:
when I do exist, i try to read on the threads
but when I dont, it would be because im in my 2nd semester of college and im taking College Comp, Calc 1, Programming Fundamentals 2, a history class, and two fine art electives and I have to work, along with doing any homework, reading, or household things, and i also end up socializing with my friends that i care about (i just got off of playing a horror game with one) and since im new, i am trying to observe a little bit before posting

tl;dr: I have a life and I am observing posts to try to learn things in a sociological manner so i may learn the game better

This feels a lot like my first game I actually saud anything. I got a lot of shit from it, but I really was being genuine (despite what void and tildey say) so I don't wanna draw alignment on this.

 

[llettuce]

Curious what you think about tildey

Where is my girl?????? Ik there's a lot of nonsense here, mostly void and rock bitching at each other. But where's the solving where's the thoughts?????? Where is sheeeeeeeee

Feels like her afk play on the Jarrod game, but I am not set

 

[llettuce]

Though when I was doing the whole I don't really know how this all works, she was fucking egging void to ream me for it, but that was not my official 1st game so I'm not going to lean alignment on this

 

[llettuce]

Curious what you think about tildey

Next question though, why her specifically over anyone else

 

[llettuce]

Vote: tildey

Voting for pressure

But mazer I do want to hear where you're sitting I went through your iso, but I'm looking for a Lil more

 

[Tildey]

Though when I was doing the whole I don't really know how this all works, she was fucking egging void to ream me for it, but that was not my official 1st game so I'm not going to lean alignment on this

You’re right, it wasn’t your first game. Which was made it come off as so Sus.

 

[llettuce]

You’re right, it wasn’t your first game. Which was made it come off as so Sus.

I'm still holding it was my first real game, a nothing and a n1 kill doesn't count

 

[llettuce]

I learned a lot that game and also wanted to kill void

 

[Tildey]

Where is my girl?????? Ik there's a lot of nonsense here, mostly void and rock bitching at each other. But where's the solving where's the thoughts?????? Where is sheeeeeeeee

Feels like her afk play on the Jarrod game, but I am not set

I get overwhelmed by crap tons of posts. Marathon back and forths like between Void & Rock exhaust me and I have a hard time staying focused enough to read through it all, much less try to distill it into a thought process.

 

[llettuce]

I get overwhelmed by crap tons of posts. Marathon back and forths like between Void & Rock exhaust me and I have a hard time staying focused enough to read through it all, much less try to distill it into a thought process.

Understandable and short write up

 

[Tildey]

Next question though, why her specifically over anyone else

He likes to promote interactions between house members as a means of getting reads because of our IRL history.

 

[llettuce]

He likes to promote interactions between house members as a means of getting reads because of our IRL history.

That's so rude

 

[Tildey]

I learned a lot that game and also wanted to kill void

Fair. I am willing to retroactively agree with you and count it as your first real game.

 

[Tildey]

That's so rude

But also kind of crafty. lol

 

[Tildey]

Fair. I am willing to retroactively agree with you and count it as your first real game.

Wasn’t that one the wrestling game based around the Monday night wars? Or am I thinking of the wrong game?

 

[llettuce]

Yes it was! The game before that was voids anonymous one and before that Harry potter

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

@Val the Moofia Boss @LemonDemonGirl fancy moving your votes somewhere else?

Interesting.

No.

 

[Tildey]

Yes it was! The game before that was voids anonymous one and before that Harry potter

I thought it was that one. You did turn out to be on one of the scum teams, though.

 

[llettuce]

I thought it was that one. You did turn out to be on one of the scum teams, though.

I'm still holding NAI

 

[Tildey]

I'm still holding NAI

For what it’s worth, I’m townreading both you & Vesper, atm. And I’m inclined to town read Void, if for no other reason than his efforts to protect my niece on D1.

 

[llettuce]

For what it’s worth, I’m townreading both you & Vesper, atm. And I’m inclined to town read Void, if for no other reason than his efforts to protect my niece on D1.

Yeah I'm personally feeling it's a little too uncalculated

 

[Claws]

 

[Tildey]

Those are some fancy glasses you have there Claws. Do they have any special meaning?

 

[Tildey]

Ive heard it was a mass RB form at least 3 people by now so I am going to assume that is a fact and not an idea.
Because from my pov everything that happened last night actually happened. But it didnt appear in writeup because everyone was watching a show and didnt look. but what do I know

In thinking back about the day’s post, this one struck me as worth a second look. You say from your pov, everything happened but it just didn’t show in the write up. Presumably, everyone is treating it like a mass RB because our actions didn’t go through. Does your statement mean that you did have a successful action?

 

[GrumpyCat]

It is a touchy subject you know.
But I think I can say that I cant be roleblocked.

 

[rock meets hard place]

honestly, that's kind of a bad reason to town read void.

Void isn't town b/c town doesn't go "look at how confirmed town I am, I had posts in my discord server that prove it!" I think he hard/soft claimed 3p when he was saying that he wasn't teamed and that's why he was so afraid of getting modkilled. I think he's intentionally town reading scum so he doesn't get shot. i.e. mazor

I can't tell if Bn is just tripping over his words or if I repeatedly keep catching him in a lie/contradiction. Though both him and Drey going "oh scum are sitting back" seems like a projection.

I guess it's not impossible that I'm wrong on Jarrod but I think Mazor looks sorta awful for trying to push a counter to grumpy, assuming that grumpy is scum.

I was nodding along and I was thinking that "Well yeah, maybe Tidley is scum" and I think the reason for the town read is awful but I do sorta like her last post about Grumpy unless scum are starting to distance from him.

 

[rock meets hard place]

don't vote me again void

 

[Badger]

ote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Future - 1 (Future)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Just under 17 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

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[Tildey]

ote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Future - 1 (Future)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Just under 17 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

http://https:\/www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc

I believe Vesper voted Futurehold. Are we seeing a typo or shenanigans?

 

[GrumpyCat]

Got to say my nap was terrible. I had this nightmare of a wolf with human arms legs and such. now it clicked.
Future didnt respond to me, didnt tell me he was town. Didnt calm my anxiety.
It it unbefitting of a Captain Scout to torture kind hearted cats like that.

Vote: Futurehold

 

[Badger]

I believe Vesper voted Futurehold. Are we seeing a typo or shenanigans?

Sorry typo. Will fox.

 

[Badger]

Vote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Future - 2 (Vesper, Grumpy)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Just over 16 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

http://https:\/www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc

 

[Badger]

That’s it changed and up to date now.

 

[rock meets hard place]

love me some ote counts

 

[Badger]

love me some ote counts

That’s been sorted too.

 

[GrumpyCat]

No it wasn't.

Vote Count:

Voidkitten - 2 (Val, LDG)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Future - 2 (Vesper, Grumpy)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Caito - 1 (Randolph)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Now it is.

You almost have the counting part right. Now you can ask oldschool MMOC mods for a sorting tutorial.

 

[Badger]

Thank you. Sorry it’s a bit of a pain in the ass to do on my phone.

 

[GrumpyCat]

What are everyone's opinions on GC calling Catio scum but not (refusing to?) vote(ing) there?

I never called Caito scum.
I said I could vote Caito with you. You didnt vote Caito, offer is out of the window now.
Stop being so mainipulative

 

[rock meets hard place]

are you trying to mock me or?

 

[GrumpyCat]

I am not trying anything. it is just you.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Got to be Caito no?

but I guess you did backtrack later

Because abbis law is true and real. Except Psycho said that doest apply and he was town so we should honor his will. Oh no maybe i dont know who scum is on d2. Shame.

now we know why you killed psycho

 

[rock meets hard place]

Alright do you want to vote caito get scum and make me confirmed town then?

though you asked me if I wanted "to get scum"

In an ordinary mafia game I wouldnt care about Catio wolf world that much.

then sorta call him a wolf here

 

[GrumpyCat]

now we know why you killed psycho

Could you please add everything we know so far in one post? It would help a lot.

 

[rock meets hard place]

we know that crumpy cat is scum

void is big mad

water is wet

and pineapple doesn't belong on pizza

 

[rock meets hard place]

but even if we ignore the times where you clearly called catio scum, your offer to vote a random guy that you are now claiming that you weren't scumreading...isn't a townie thing to do

 

[rock meets hard place]

like if im being generous here, we could argue that 707 means that you weren't scum reading the guy but then you why would 709 and 712 exist if you no longer thought he was scum?

 

[GrumpyCat]

In case it takes more than a rock to understand I am one being generous today. See you tommorow.

 

[rock meets hard place]

 

[GrumpyCat]

You are not going anywhere after today performance. Neither do I.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Respice finem​

 

[GrumpyCat]

Tu mi domine purgamenta es.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Thats how i imagine you and VK but i am not that round.

 

[VoidKitten]

Are you two fighting now?

 

[GrumpyCat]

i admit i got kind of provoked here. my bad. i am done with it.

 

[Randolph]

i think Badger would protect a scum character that's crumbing over a townie.

Vote: unvote

Vote: voidkitten

 

[VoidKitten]

I love that Rando has no idea what's going on and is so confidently wrong.

 

[Badger]

Vote Count:

Voidkitten - 3 (Val, LDG, Randolph)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Future - 2 (Vesper, Grumpy)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Just over 12 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

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[VoidKitten]

GG scum team. This game broke me :D

Unvote:

Vote: VoidKitten

I am town. I just don't feel like playing this game any further when people don't analyze facts.

glgl

 

[Badger]

Vote Count:

Voidkitten - 5 (Val, LDG, Randolph, VK)
Val - 2 (Claws, Dreyski)
Future - 2 (Vesper, Grumpy)
Grumpycat - 1 (Rock)
Rock - 1 (Caito)
Jarrod - 1 (Mazer)
Tildey - 1 (Lletuce)

Just over 12 hours to go. 11 required for a hammer. Sexy Badger deadline time Monday 1:13AM GMT. Also sexy world clock:

Current UTC — Coordinated Universal Time

Current local time in UTC. See a clock with the accurate time and find out where it is observed.

www.timeanddate.com

 

[GrumpyCat]

Wft are you doing??? Are you tat grey or that? i know this game could be bs but it could be winnable.

 

[rock meets hard place]

Tbf, it's all town voting you while scum are trying to protect you

 

[VoidKitten]

Wft are you doing??? Are you tat grey or that? i know this game could be bs but it could be winnable.

I absolutely think town can win and should.

 

[VoidKitten]

They don't need me to do it

 

[rock meets hard place]

Something something gc is scum but I guess I'm ok with void going over him

 

[VoidKitten]

Something something gc is scum but I guess I'm ok with void going over him

I would probably vote GC, BN, or Jarrod today. Probably.

 

[VoidKitten]

Though, I would not be surprised if the majority of the scum are hanging back and watching.

 

[VoidKitten]

Either way, get rid of me or not. I don't feel like having this "omg VK could possibly be scum" conversation every day I live.

If its gonna happen, just vote me out today lol.

It's more fun having that conversation when there is plausible reasons why, not when people are just not being logical.

 

[VoidKitten]

I'll check back later.

<3

 

[GrumpyCat]

Either way, get rid of me or not. I don't feel like having this "omg VK could possibly be scum" conversation every day I live.

If its gonna happen, just vote me out today lol.

It's more fun having that conversation when there is plausible reasons why, not when people are just not being logical.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I